Wide Reciever Thread

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  1. alteredst8

    alteredst8 Draft Season is here

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    J.J. Arcega-Whiteside - Stanford

    KeeSean Johnson - Fresno St

    David Sills V - West Virginia

    Jalen Hurd - Baylor
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    Hakeem Butler - Iowa State

    A.J. Brown - Ole Miss

    D.K. Metcalf - Ole Miss


    Marquise Brown - Oklahoma

    Deebo Samuel - South Carolina

    Lil'Jordan Humphrey - Texas

    N'Keal Harry - Arizona State

    Collin Johnson - Texas


    Kelvin Harmon - NC State

    DaMarkus Lodge - Ole Miss

    Anthony Johnson - Buffalo

     
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  2. alteredst8

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    Emanuel Hall - Missouri

    Parris Campbell - Ohio St

    Stanley Morgan Jr. - Nebraska


    Riley Ridley - Georgia


    Antoine Wesley - Texas Tech

    Tyler Johnson - Minnesota


    Andy Isabella- UMass



    Greg Dortch - Wake Forest

    Gary Jennings - West Virginia

    Darius Slayton - Auburn

    Dillon Mitchell - Oregon

    Preston Williams - Colorado State


    Anthony Ratliff-Williams - North Carolina



     
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  3. Madturk

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    Wow :eek:
     
  4. DonkeyKilla

    DonkeyKilla Well-Known Member

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    sign me up.
     
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  5. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    Juwan Johnson a 6-3 220 monster:



    Jaylen Smith is also 6-2 220 or so. One of the best after the catch:



    Hakeem Butler 6-6 225 absolute unit.

     
  6. alteredst8

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    Butler is real interesting
     
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    Juwan reminds me of Jerry Porter. Similar build and running style.
     
  8. YodasBeast

    YodasBeast Green Power, Bitches!

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    Johnson seems like he'd be a better fit as a receiving TE, Smith is gonna lose a lotta balls with the way he carries an Butler is intriguing. Butler's biggest fault in the highlight reel is that he usually had a lot of space from the defenders, so was he getting open by that much, was it broken coverages, bad CBs, poor division, what? I did like that he would plow through or carry a lot of defenders, tho.
     
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    NFL Prospect Recap: Embracing the artform of route-running is Texas WR Collin Johnson’s NFL ticket

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    By Dane Brugler Oct 29, 2018
    Does the 2019 NFL Draft class have a lock top-20 draft pick at wide receiver? No. But there is ample amount of talent and potential at the position with double-digit wide receivers who will be considered in the 20-60 overall range.

    With a logjam of receiver talent at the top, I went to the trusty All-22 tape to try and separate them based on the first half of this season, studying each wide receiver in succession.

    Arizona State’s N’Keal Harry was outstanding at the catch point, but his lack of dynamic route-running is a glaring concern.

    Ole Miss’ A.J. Brown is a natural route-runner and hands-catcher, but he is slot-only on film and is a complete projection lining up outside and facing press.

    Stanford’s JJ Arcega-Whiteside. Georgia’s Riley Ridley. South Carolina’s Bryan Edwards. The list goes on and on. Each impressed in different ways, but no one truly surprised based on expectations and previous film work.

    Until I reached Texas junior WR Collin Johnson (6-5, 224, 4.56).

    Studying Johnson over the summer, I saw an imposing athlete with long-striding speed and a large catch radius. However, consistency was an issue due to upright routes and general lack of rhythm, which is often the case with receivers his size.

    However, I was floored by the improvements on his 2018 film (tapes viewed: USC, TCU, Oklahoma, Baylor) compared to his first few seasons. Johnson was the same imposing athlete with long-striding speed and a large catch radius, but his polished patterns and clean footwork were an unexpected sight. His routes showed tempo, timing and deception based on coverage reads, manipulating cornerbacks and creating separation out of his breaks.

    Johnson is also aggressively playing up to his grandiose size, something that wasn’t always the case on last year’s tape – both as a receiver and blocker. With the wingspan of a condor and body control of a dancer, he expands his catch radius to make acrobatic adjustments on the football, regardless if the ball placement is at his cleats or above his head. While he needs to continue improving in contested situations, Johnson’s ability to beat press coverage and shield defenders from the catch point are understated assets.

    Johnson’s improvements from both a technical and strength perspective have resulted in more impact plays in 2018, leading the team with 46 catches for 628 yards and five touchdowns through eight games. Those numbers might not jump off the screen, but his improvements on tape certainly do. Route-running is an artform that requires precision, pacing and plenty of practice. And Johnson’s refined routes have gone from paint-by-numbers to fine art over the last 18 months.

    If he finishes as strong as he started and declares, I expect Johnson to be the first Longhorns receiver to be drafted in the top-50 picks since Roy Williams in 2004 – and the first round isn’t out of the discussion.

    Other draft notes
    • NC State junior WR Kelvin Harmon (6-3, 217, 4.49) is another prospect in the logjam of talented wide receiver prospects with first-round aspirations and he went off against Syracuse on Saturday. The Wolfpack wideout tallied 11 catches for 247 yards and a pair of touchdowns as the Orange struggled to contain him. Harmon has good route speed and shows the footwork to work the sideline or create his own separation at the top of routes. He is well-built for the position and his play strength might be his best trait, not allowing defensive backs to overpower him at the catch point. While his physicality is a strong selling point, Harmon has a few bothersome habits like unnecessarily jumping at the catch point or relying on his body to finish catches. Nonetheless, Harmon is an intriguing prospect and his play against Syracuse showed exactly why.
    • As I profiled a month ago, no 2019 NFL prospect has made a more substantial jump from his junior to senior season than Kentucky senior EDGE Josh Allen (6-4, 262, 4.68). He continued his senior surge with an outstanding performance in the comeback win over Missouri, finishing with 11 tackles, 2.0 sacks and two forced fumbles. Allen is one of only two FBS players with double-digit sacks and his five forced fumbles is tied for the best in the country. A striking element of his superb play has been his ability to close out games, avoiding fatigue and maintain his high level of play – of his 10 sacks this season, nine have come in the second half. Based on his junior tape, Allen was maybe a top-100 draft pick. After adding 25 pounds of muscle and expanding his pass rush skills as a senior, Allen has put himself in the top-10 conversation.
    • While Josh Allen has played his best in the second half, it has been the opposite for Missouri’s offense, which finished Saturday’s loss to Kentucky with eight straight three-and-outs. In “clutch” moments, the quarterback needs to make plays that preserve or lead to a win. But senior QB Drew Lock (6-3, 225, 4.80) has struggled in tight moments, especially against better competition. In eight games in 2018, Missouri has faced four SEC opponents (Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Kentucky) and four unranked nonconference opponents (UT-Martin, Wyoming, Purdue, Memphis) – and the difference in production has been staggering.
    Drew Lock in 2018 COMP ATT COMP% PASS YDS PASS TD INT
    vs. Non-Conference 101 142 71.1 1,412 15 1
    vs. SEC Opponents 68 137 49.6 732 1 5

    More interesting stats: Regardless of competition, Lock has struggled to finish once the field shrinks. In 37 red zone trips this season, Lock is completing only 23.8 percent of his throws (10 for 42). He has also struggled to bring his team back from a deficit. When Missouri is losing by 14 or fewer points, Lock is completing only 43.1 percent (25 for 58) of his passes for 280 yards, one passing touchdown and four interceptions. These numbers aren’t a complete reflection of quarterback play. Lock has dealt with drops, spotty protection and injuries to his supporting cast, specifically WR Emanuel Hall. But that is part of football, especially in the NFL – the situation will rarely be perfect, and the quarterback needs to overcome adversity. With a strong pre-draft process, Lock will remain in the first-round discussion, mostly due to his physical traits, but his distressing situational production is a bright red flag.

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    • While NFL scouts think there is a decent chance that Oregon QB Justin Herbert goes back to school, there is another underclassmen quarterback who they expect to go pro. Talking to area scouts who have been through Buffalo, they think redshirt junior QB Tyree Jackson (6-6, 248, 4.88) will skip his senior season and enter the 2019 NFL Draft (NFL scout: “Unless something changes, it sure sounds like he’ll be part of this upcoming draft.”). Jackson is a large-framed passer with a strong arm to unleash downfield throws with ease. However, he is still unpolished in several aspects of playing the position, staring down his reads and dropping his eyes with the hint of pressure. Jackson’s stats have been reflective of his up-and-down play this season, completing only 56.5 percent of his passes, but he is one of the main reasons Buffalo is 7-1 and in control of the MAC East. While time will tell if he follows through and leaves after this season, there is no question he could benefit with added growth at the college level. Haven’t seen him yet? Buffalo hosts Miami (Ohio) this Tuesday at 7 p.m. ET and the game will be broadcast on ESPN2.
    • Deep Sleeper Alert: UAB senior EDGE Jamell Garcia-Williams (6-8, 257, 4.80) is an under-the-radar prospect who has piqued the interest of several in the NFL scouting community. After starting his collegiate career at Eastern Arizona College, the Las Vegas native transferred to UAB prior to last season, serving as a special teamer and backup in 2017. Garcia-Williams earned a starting role for his senior season and ranks fourth in Conference USA with 6.5 sacks through eight games. The UAB pass rusher has an intriguing body type with length and long-strides to threaten the corner. His coaches speak highly of his instincts and work ethic, but he needs to get stronger and improve the technical aspects of the position to stick in the NFL. Despite his relative inexperience, he grew up around the game because of his father, Jerrol Williams, who was a fourth-round pick in the 1989 NFL Draft out of Purdue and played seven seasons in the NFL. Jamell’s older brother, Jerrol Garcia-Williams, was an undrafted linebacker out of Hawaii in the 2017 NFL Draft and played in 11 games last season for the Denver Broncos (currently on injured reserve after tearing his ACL in August). Although Jamell Garcia-Williams will likely need time on a practice squad, he is a talented lump of clay who teams might consider late in the draft.
    • Last week in this space, I wrote that Utah junior RB Zack Moss (5-9, 220, 4.53) had a “decent chance” to finish as RB1 in my draft rankings if he declares. Maybe it added a little extra motivation because he ran over and through the UCLA defense on Friday night, finishing with 211 rushing yards and three touchdowns. Moss averaged 8.1 yards per carry against the Bruins, pushing his yards per carry average to 6.0 on the season, which is fourth-best in college football among runners with at least 150 carries.
    • NFL Rookies of the Week: Green Bay Packers CB Jaire Alexander was outstanding on Sunday, finishing with five pass breakups and seven tackles against the Rams. He was No. 16 overall on my draft board (and drafted No. 18 overall by the Packers) and has absolutely lived up to that high projection with his reaction quickness and toughness. Philadelphia Eagles TE Dallas Goedert had only one target in the win over the Jaguars, but he made it count with a 32-yard touchdown reception. He has scored in back-to-back weeks and has proven to be a reliable option as a pass-catcher (17 catches on 20 targets).
     
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  12. alteredst8

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    Thank you.
     
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    NFL Rookies of the Week: Green Bay Packers CB Jaire Alexander was outstanding on Sunday, finishing with five pass breakups and seven tackles against the Rams. He was No. 16 overall on my draft board (and drafted No. 18 overall by the Packers) and has absolutely lived up to that high projection with his reaction quickness and toughness.

    As @007 would say.

    $199.99
     
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  14. Armyr8rfan

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    Really good, DEEP WR class. A lot of guys with great size as well.
     
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  15. alteredst8

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    It isn't going to be top heavy, but I think it will run deep. Lots of guys that offer different skill sets.

    Perfect year for @hawaiianboy's big slot fantasy.
     
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  16. raiderfreak7

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    JJ Arcega-Whiteside has been a fun prospect to watch. He's probably going to end up my top guy or #2 with Harry.
     
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    I’m really liking the Sills kid from WV. Not elite speed but great hands and can catch contested balls. Good size at 6’3” 215. Kind of reminds me of a younger Jordy Nelson. If he makes it out of the first, would definitely consider him.
     
  18. alteredst8

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    Going to quite a few WR's available in rounds 2-4 when you have a solid group of DL's and OT's.
     
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    If you go out and put up 8-238-3 you need to to be checked out further.

    If you find out that the previous year you put up 76-1356-14. You get a YouTube highlight look.

    If your highlights look good...





    ANTHONY JOHNSON
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    I've literally seen him mocked in the top 15 on a few sites this week...

    He was already well regarded but I think he's climbed into the upper echelon.
     
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