who do you really want in the 1st...

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  1. Byron2112

    Byron2112 4.65...

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    by that I mean, who in your opinion will be there to take at #14 that's actually worth the pick... and to a lesser extent that we can use(no TE's QB's etc. duh), but BPA is what I'd really prefer myself.

    I'd really like Zeke or Laquon... I don't believe they'll be there though... Laquon maybe, depending on what he runs I guess(some mocks have him available), but I really don't think it will happen.

    I don't like any of the other WR's there... no RB's

    I don't like any of the O-line there... the value isn't there, nor is the need now

    I personally think all the D-line have warts that make them not worth the pick... none is explosive as a passrusher with length except Floyd IMO... but he's so light he bounces off people and has to run around them, and literally jump on people(leave his feet) to take them down... including QB's... we have a guy that's lighter in Irvin anyway... all the others are small, or slow(not quick), or both... I thought even Lawson looked like nothing special(not all that quick)... Spence was prolly my favorite on tape, he's always in the backfield, but he's light, and he's not elite athlete.

    I don't like any of the DT's at #14... the one I like most is Bullard(I know Crow loves him)... I love his size and #'s, and he does look like could carry more weight, but his tape just didnt impress me.. I watched a game where he didn't do squat and didn't look like he put much effort in either... not at #14

    the D-line is deep, but I think for us anyway, the sweet spot is 2nd and 3rd round.

    no safeties even in the ballpark.


    that leaves me corners... ugh

    I looked them all over, combine drills and tape... I fuggin' hate myself for this, but the one that stood out is William Jackson(fuggin' hate my life).

    he's got the length, the speed, he's super aggressive in coverage and he makes plays on the ball all day long... obviously fits our greatest need to.

    Apple is a pussy on the field, and I didn't like his footwork, want no part of him.

    Hargreaves probably won't be there, but he's smaller/shorty arms(not such a big deal with is #'s), but that 40 is death... dunno WTF happened there... he's got everything else tho.

    Alexander is 5'10", 190 pounds... maybe... I don't believe McKenzie will ever blow a primo pick on a small corner like him

    I dunno if Red would go back to Houston for a corner in the first after he drafted dummy... who knows?.... I think it's who fits best for us right now, and BPA if Laquon is gone.




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  2. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    tl;dr
     
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  3. Byron2112

    Byron2112 4.65...

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  4. CrossBones

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  5. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    Assuming Zeke is gone now?

    I'd lean toward Spriggs/Conklin over the CB's that may be there.

    I also am intrigued by Darron Lee.

    Treadwell would be a fuckin boner inducing move. I just can't see Reggie doubling up though...

    You know which guys represent good value there? Lawson and Spence. I could argue either way on that, but if we are talking true BPA talents...It might be them.
     
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  6. Madturk

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    Warming up to Lee too 007. Guy is just all over the place
     
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  7. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Zeke
    Bullard in a trade down
    Flyer on Nkemdiche
     
  8. Sleet

    Sleet #2017: Get 'er done Red

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    No.

    Elliot, Treadwell, Lawson or Lee.
     
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  9. Byron2112

    Byron2112 4.65...

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    would Lee play the middle for us?

    if so, I think I'm down.
     
  10. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    Hmm.

    He could develop into a Timmons/Shazier type maybe?

    I'd probably play him on the weak side and at nickel MLB.

    He's a pretty versatile guy and I know for sure having Malcolm Smith and Ben Heeney wouldn't prevent me from trying him out there.
     
  11. Raidervinny

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    Could Lee play the hybrid SS/LB role?
     
  12. s.dot88

    s.dot88 Well-Known Member

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    1a) Elliot
    1b) Treadwell
     
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  13. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    Ezekiel
    Lee
     
  14. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    He's a pretty darn good coverage LB and I watched him cover Daniel Braverman in the slot (Not even joking) when they played Western Michigan.

    On the flipside though, Braverman ate him up, LOL. (Probably the 2nd or 3rd best slot prospect in the draft)

    Positions are all kinda melting together nowadays as it is. Versatile guys who move around like he does are pretty damn valuable.

    He's not my A1 choice at #14 but I did spend quite a bit of time watching him this week. He's pretty damn good.

    His pass rush is what surprised me on youtube. Oddly enough the same applies with Cravens...
     
  15. phxraida15

    phxraida15 Well-Known Member

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    #Zeke. Don't think he will be there tho. Don't really give a shit after that. Dudes a impact player.
     
  16. NIPS

    NIPS Comin' to a thread near you

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    Zeke
    William Jackson III
     
  17. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Aren't you the #beef guy?
     
  18. DonkeyKilla

    DonkeyKilla Well-Known Member

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    In this order:

    Zeke
    Treadwell
    Jackson
    Conklin to play RT
    Ragland

    just get me a fucking player!
     
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  19. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Darren Lee is another safety playing LB.

    No way I'm dropping a first round pick on a position where we got halfway decent production out of Taylor freakin Mays.
     
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  20. Byron2112

    Byron2112 4.65...

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    it's too bad there's not a superstar MLB... they calling Ragland a 2 down guy... we already had one a those from Alabama, thanks.
     
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