Welcome to the team: Gus Bradley

Discussion in 'Raiders Discussion' started by Nobodyinparticular, Jan 12, 2021.

  1. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Self reflection, whether by him or his estate, is great. But typically matters not. The bachelorette finalist got shredded on Twitter and Chris Harrison got suspended from his job — irrespective of any self reflection or change of heart. The PC mob could give a shit. They want hides.

    Your point is the better justification I referenced but is that how this went down? Does it justify the PC outrage and targeting of his books? No, not one bit (IMO).
     
  2. YodasBeast

    YodasBeast Green Power, Bitches!

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    From what I understand, his widow started to make some changes near her end (2015-2018) and the estate made another change last year. They seem to fall in line more with what @Nobodyinparticular put forth. I don't think the PC Police/Cancel Culture mob had anything to do with it.

    I'm not a fan of PC Police or Cancel Culture. I may agree with some of the things they say, but it's not up to me nor them to control what others say/think. I can hold sway over only myself and partially over my family (they are their own people, but I can get them to hold their tongues when need be). My brother in law is a great guy, but he also is an offensive prick. He'll bend over backwards to help people, even strangers, but he'll also say and do some of the most offensive things you can imagine. I know that nothing I say will ever change his way of thinking, but I know that many others would love to (including some of his own family). You just have to take it with a grain of salt, much like you do with the other side of things.
     
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  3. TheNextStep

    TheNextStep TX BBQ > KC BBQ

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    Sleet, for real... who fucking targeted his books? Nobody. I never heard a single peep about it from anybody up until the estate said that they decided not to publish them anymore. Then, after that, I heard all kinds of people pissed off about their decision. I never heard ANYTHING about anyone being mad at a Dr Seuss book before that... so, again, who was targeting it?
     
  4. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Think about the social media, including sex, violence, anarchy, porn, brainless activities, etc., consumed by youth today, who know little or nothing about the greatness of our Country. Captain Fantastic on NetFlix recently made such a point about misplaced priorities in our society.

    Conservatives were ridiculed for trying to have higher standards for what Hollywood could air on TV or sell as video games. Footloose made fun of touching, drinking, dancing and convorting.

    It is happening again. This time the concern is our youth’s exposure to what the PC culture selectively seems is bad, with an emphasis on tearing down our history. It targets, bullies and if successful banishes. Your timing is off. And it was not just 6 books that were targeted for banishment.

    Dr. Seuss decision followed lengthy study of racist themes in his books
    By Lee Brown
    March 2, 2021 | 3:18pm

    “The decision to yank six Dr. Seuss books from publication Tuesday followed years of concerns over racist imagery — including an academic study that examined the characters in all of his work over 70 years.” Here is the study:

    Dr. Seuss books are ‘racist,’ new study says. Should kids still read them?
    By Meghan Collie
    Posted February 28, 2019 2:50 pm EST

    The study, published in the journal for Research on Diversity in Youth Literature, analyzes 50 books and more than 2,200 characters created by Dr. Seuss. Of those characters, only 45 are of colour. “The presence of anti-blackness, Orientalism and white supremacy span across Seuss’ entire literary collection and career,” say researchers Katie Ishizuka and Ramon Stephens.

    Ishizuka and Stephens collected several instances of Seuss’ racism to illustrate their point. For example, in the original version of the story And to Think that I Saw it on Mulberry Street, a Chinese man is drawn “with chopsticks and a bowl of rice in his hands, bright yellow skin, slanted eyes, a long black braid, and a conical hat,” write the researchers.

    In the book If I Ran the Zoo, a white man says he would “put a person of colour wearing a turban” on display. Ishizuka and Stephens call this is an act of “dehumanization,” which is “to treat someone as though he or she is not human. Researchers also suggest that Dr. Seuss only ever wrote about two human black characters, and both are depicted as monkeys.

    From 1941 to 1943, Dr. Seuss — born Theodor Seuss Geisel — worked as the chief political cartoonist for a New York newspaper called PM. During his tenure, Seuss published more than 400 cartoons, nearly all of which were about the Second World War. Most of his drawings took aim at people like Hitler and Mussolini, and ideologies such as anti-Semitism. However, Seuss also created several racist cartoons about black and Japanese people.

    The internment of Japanese Americans began shortly after Seuss’s cartoons were published. It’s widely believed that Seuss tried to make amends for his racism towards Japanese people in later stories, such as Horton Hears a Who. Researchers say the treatment of non-white characters in Dr. Seuss stories encourages “the development and reinforcement of racial bias in young children.”

    Carl James, an education professor at York University, agrees. “[Literature] has an impact and an influence on the early development of self, the understanding of self, how children come to know themselves and […] their potential,” says James. “Therefore, we need to pay attention to the [way] literature conveys messages.”

    For James, banning problematic literature from the curriculum should always be a possibility. “We have to think [about] when it was considered a classic,” says James. “What was the political, social and economic context at that time? And what has changed since then that we have now become aware?” It’s crucial that the stories our children learn progress as society does, according to James.

    “It’s not to say that some of those classics cannot be looked at. It’s also [asking ourselves], ‘What is the critical lens we’re going to use to interpret that?'” James says. “We need to give kids the lens to critique the work.” James says it’s paramount that kids are taught that those controversial stories don’t “undermine their potential or their abilities or their sense of being or their sense of belonging.”

    We can’t leave these [stories] to chance, and we can’t simply ignore differences… We must always be taking these [differences] into account and revisiting the Canadian content [accordingly].” Random House Children’s Books announced Thursday that Dr. Seuss’s Horse Museum will be released on Sept. 3. The book is based on an unfinished manuscript by the late Dr. Seuss.

    Identity politics and PC culture (IMO) is far more harmful and divisive than Dr. Seuss. We can be better people and teach liberty and equality without selective outrage and tearing down history. Propaganda was a big part of WWII. Immigrants have been profiled since before this country was born. We can do better without modern-age book burning.

    If the concern is truly about our youth, then stand against today’s crap being fed to our kids on social media. The high rate of depression, drug abuse, suicide among youth isn’t Dr. Seuss’ fault. Plenty of children’s books have been written since Dr. Seuss. It’s not as if Dr. Seuss is required reading to graduate from kindergarten. But propaganda like White Fragility is now curriculum.

    If the concern is really about diversity, then walk the walk. Promote all minority and women voices, not just the ones that belong to a favored group. Competition for political voices is what makes democracy work, not team politics.
     
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  5. hawaiianboy

    hawaiianboy Unfuckupable

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    A person is a person no matter how small. The direction of this thread just proves Gus Bradley is destined for a big fall.
     
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  6. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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  7. RaiderJF

    RaiderJF Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how old Cindy Lou Who is... I bet she’s pretty hot now. Anybody have a pic???
     
  8. Madturk

    Madturk Barry McCockinner

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    :eek:
     
  9. Raidervinny

    Raidervinny Prodigal Member

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    You are an attorney, you of all people should know that the Freedom of Speech does not mean Freedom from Consequences. In both of your examples, neither person was locked up by the Government...which is what the 1st Amendment protects us from. Both were free to share their thoughts and did so. However, employers are also free to terminate folks for acts that they don't condone. And we as consumers are free to stop patronizing places or manufacturers that stand for ideals that we don't.

    Nobody is getting 'cancelled'...the bachelorette finalist will still get clicks on whatever social media platforms they feed off of and Chris Harrison will be employed again. Neither will be jailed. Neither will face governmental punishment.

    PC mob? Is that similar to the Christian mob that tries to 'cancel' music, bands, books and movies?
     
  10. YodasBeast

    YodasBeast Green Power, Bitches!

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  11. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    Yeah poor Gus.

    Dude lumped into a thread with hand wringing about Peter Pan and Pepé Le Pew.

    Jeeez.
     
  12. TheMadStork

    TheMadStork "And I've only begun fucking with you people."

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    While we're on the subject, in the future when we hire/draft/trade someone, shouldn't we skip making a "Welcome" thread for that person and go directly to a "Fuck You" thread?

    Just in the interests of saving time.
     
  13. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    I think you may have something there!!!!!!
     
  14. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Yes, it is. And the response to both should be similar, no?

    As to the free speech, it extends beyond the reach of the constitution. First Amendment values — expressed by Justice Brennen — should be taught by parents and schools. Diversity of thoughts, opinions and ideas is a good thing.

    Instead, the opposite is occurring. We are experiencing McCarthyism all over again. It’s team-driven responses like your post (confusing my post as picking a side b/c you know my leanings) is part of the problem.

    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Chris Harrison stood up against the PC mob and lost his job for doing so. The women lead on Mandalorian lost her job after expressing her views about the mob. So guess what, the next person will stay in the closet.

    Odd how many have successfully fought hard to get out of the closet. Nearly every Hallmark show now has gay/mixed couples/marriages.

    Yet, now many people are fighting to put others in the closet. The hypocrisy is patent. They don’t really want diversity of thought, just skin tone.
     
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  15. DonkeyKilla

    DonkeyKilla Well-Known Member

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    Leave it to @Sleet to get the politics going again :spank:
     
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  16. RaiderJF

    RaiderJF Well-Known Member

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    Not really. Some wasted potential tho...
     
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    raiderfreak7 Well-Known Member

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  18. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    I totally thought that was Avril Lavigne.
     
  19. raiderfreak7

    raiderfreak7 Well-Known Member

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    That's Cindy fucking Lou Who to you, motherfucker.
     
  20. YodasBeast

    YodasBeast Green Power, Bitches!

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