Welcome to the team: Gus Bradley

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  1. YodasBeast

    YodasBeast Green Power, Bitches!

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    Really? It was easy to find it on Amazon.
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  2. Armyr8rfan

    Armyr8rfan Well-Known Member

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    I’ve never really watched him. I’m just preparing my anus. Lol.
     
  3. Armyr8rfan

    Armyr8rfan Well-Known Member

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    It’s just ridiculous these days isn’t it lol?
     
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  4. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Of course, you didn’t reference the ones that have been banned. Picking and choosing which Dr. Seuss books are okay to read is as bad as banning all of them silly.
     
  5. TheNextStep

    TheNextStep TX BBQ > KC BBQ

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    None of them have been banned though. The estate of Dr. Seuss has decided to discontinue selling them. That’s Free Market, not fascism. The seller decided to no longer sell them is not the same as the government banning them.
     
  6. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Oh please. Nobody fingered “the government” for de-publishing 6 Dr. Seuss books (although some states’ libraries are removing them).

    I am fingering the book-burning Twitter mob that finds racism everywhere, except in themselves. Until a conservative black person can get the support of the black caucus and a pro life woman can be a feminist, spare me with the equality agenda. They aren’t advocating diversity. They are demanding conformity.
     
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  7. TheNextStep

    TheNextStep TX BBQ > KC BBQ

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    I don’t believe I said anything about an equality agenda. You said that the books had been banned. I pointed out that they haven’t. It’s that simple.
     
  8. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Fair enough. Cause/effect. Bullying or banning to push a hypothetical agenda. Not a great distinction.
     
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  9. YodasBeast

    YodasBeast Green Power, Bitches!

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    I literally typed in Dr. Suess and those were the first ones that came up. If you paid any attention, If I Ran The Zoo is on that list that the Suess Estate decided not to publish any longer. Current stock will continue to be sold. There was no agenda pushed by any outside agencies to get rid of them, they simply felt that there were features within the books that they no longer felt comfortable with in today's world. Today is different than it was back in the 50s and things that were acceptable then, no longer are.
     
  10. Byron2112

    Byron2112 4.65...

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    ebay started canceling used sales
     
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  11. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    When Jake Trapper of all people goes in a rant defending Dr. Seuss from the PC police, I’m guessing, there is an agenda. And, no, book burning is book burning no matter how you slice it. Dr. Seuss didn’t write any books today.
     
  12. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Hahaha. Only approved speech permitted. Crazy that people defend this new age of book burning. And they get away with it because people do. Academia is full of the enlightened intolerant.
     
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  13. YodasBeast

    YodasBeast Green Power, Bitches!

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    Can you provide a link to the book burning please?

    And Dr. Seuss may be writing books in the same studio that Tupac is recording in. Or they're both dead, so it's impossible to output new material, therefore it's not relevant to the estate discontinuing publication.

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  14. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    eBay banning those 6 books wasn’t enough? How about some public libraries? What’s next, are we going to ban old movies (James Bond, In like Flynn, etc.) and Hollywood icons (Rat Pack) too?

    It’s fucking history. And literature from a different time. Shit, you think people in other countries don’t profile Americans? Or Americans, whether on the left and right, are going to stop profiling people b/c they made an example out of Dr. Seuss? Heck, Asian kids (one of the alleged victims here) are likely the most racist at my kids’ school.

    It’s great that people have different sensibilities about race and gender. But by adopting book burning (figuratively speaking), have they really learned anything?

    Here you go: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-news-dr-seuss-connecticut-libraries-20210304-ym6rek5vpndwbeqxmkvzzfzo6u-story.html?outputType=amp
     
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  15. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    I hate cancel culture as much as anyone but I gotta be honest... I read the Zoo book last night just to see what all the fuss was about and I kinda understand now. Funny thing is that I've mostly heard about the illustrations being the issue but the "slant eyed friends" or whatever the exact verbiage isn't exactly cool either. Understanding intent is important but you also have to be willing to give and take a bit in these things. I think the Dr. Seuss estate got this one right.
     
  16. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    Pepe Le Pew

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  17. TheNextStep

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    Represents “Rape Culture,” apparently.
     
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  18. YodasBeast

    YodasBeast Green Power, Bitches!

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    QUOTE="Sleet
    eBay banning those 6 books wasn’t enough? How about some public libraries? What’s next, are we going to ban old movies (James Bond, In like Flynn, etc.) and Hollywood icons (Rat Pack) too?
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    It’s fucking history. And literature from a different time. Shit, you think people in other countries don’t profile Americans? Or Americans, whether on the left and right, are going to stop profiling people b/c they made an example out of Dr. Seuss? Heck, Asian kids (one of the alleged victims here) are likely the most racist at my kids’ school.
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    It’s great that people have different sensibilities about race and gender. But by adopting book burning (figuratively speaking), have they really learned anything?

    Here you go: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-news-dr-seuss-connecticut-libraries-20210304-ym6rek5vpndwbeqxmkvzzfzo6u-story.html?outputType=amp /QUOTE




    Again, nobody is "banning" the books, nor are they literally or figuratively burning the books. Your own link talks about Dr. Seuss regretting some of his early choices. It also discusses how the libraries constantly re-evaluate the books that they house on the shelves. I'm not sure where the disconnect is at, since the Estate of Dr. Seuss made the choice to stop publication of certain books in the future. They apparently were no longer selling well either (https://www.cbr.com/dr-seuss-banned-books-delisted-ebay/), with If I Ran The Zoo being the top seller in 2020 with 7,000 total sales (Compared to Green Eggs & Ham at 10,000/week). Some of them sold in the single digits. That is just poor business to keep pumping money into a failing product.

    As far as the Asian kids at your kids' school being racist, that is neither here nor there. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Asian kids at my kids' school aren't racist, so does that satisfy them being a "victim" again? No. It has nothing to do with the books. Racial profiling by other countries has nothing to do with this conversation either.

    Now, as far as them being a part of history, I agree with you. They are part of history and they aren't being erased. They just aren't being published any longer.
     
  19. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Nice well thought out (and funny) response. It sides steps the issue though. If you do not think intolerance is being taught and practiced, we disagree. If you don’t think this is an example of that, we disagree. Are there better examples with fewer justifications, I can agree with that.
     
  20. Nobodyinparticular

    Nobodyinparticular PFF Grades Can Suck It

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    Question for you: If I wrote a book and 30 or 40 years later I decided I didn't want to release further copies into circulation because it was not reflective of my current thinking, would I be within my rights to bury the copyright (no longer publishing the work)?

    Likewise, if I am dead my estate is intended to represent my wishes as well as my professional and personal persona, correct?

    So then if the decision is made voluntarily by my estate that these earlier works are not a healthy representation of my later views or a persona that I want to present to the public, are they well within their rights to do that?