Welcome to the team - Connor Cook

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  1. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    calojay Resident Realist

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  4. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    I think at worst he can be a capable back up in this league. Very naive to judge him on the basis of his first start after not even dressing for games.
     
  5. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    That Matt Moore guy is pretty good :chuckle:
     
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  6. godeep811

    godeep811 It's time to win again

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    Agreed. To evaluate him yesterday after being in mothballs all season is ridiculous
     
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  7. Raider Outlaw

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    Yeah, the new boss has a problem with QB evaluation as it seems like Mark of all people pushed for Carr as much as anybody. The other QB picks and signings have been pretty bad to say the least. I was rooting for Cook yesterday, but he looked like the same guy he was in college that made me not optimistic about that pick. Scattershot accuracy and poor pocket presence. At least he's not as dumb as Tyler Wilson apparently was and learned the playbook....I think.
     
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  8. CrossBones

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    Cook is fine to develop as a good backup.

    It's just this notion that he has the potential to be a top ten QB in the NFL that's laughable. At this point how could any right thinking person come to the conclusion?

    I'm off to consult @007's draft guide on that subject.
     
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  9. cruedi

    cruedi Well-Known Member

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    True, but that's not why Cooper dropped a pass right in his hands that could have turned the game around. Not why Crabtree and Washington dropped passed that him them in the hands.

    How good can Connor be? I'm not sure, but yesterday was no place to judge him.
     
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  10. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    Correct.

    By the same token it's no place to be crowning him a potential top 10 QB in the NFL. #ridiculous
     
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  11. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    On the flip side might be a bit early to proclaim him a potential Top 10 Qb. People talking when we draft him like we could flip him for a couple 2nd rounders in a year or two, LOL. Lets slow our roll and make sure he can play competently.

    I saw a ton of bad QB play yesterday. Like I say its OK to be honest and truthful. Dude missed open targets. Knowing the playbook or not thats the same problem he had in college. Sailing passes to Amari, Rivera and Crab. Skipping open passes to Richard twice. That is just an accuracy issue. Not a playbook or 'readiness' issue.

    Not sensing the passrush was a problem against Alabama just like it was yesterday.

    Hopefully he can become a guy we don't cringe at when he has to play.
     
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  12. CrossBones

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    Not sure why any of this doesn't make complete sense.

    Nobody is throwing Cook under the bus but c'mon.
     
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  13. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    Like I said yesterday when people were mad a me and pouting.

    Cook should not have played yesterday. It was bad for ::future:: business.

    Without an LT he could have got hurt.

    Without having played all year his confidence could get wrecked.

    Without knowing the playbook nothing good was going to happen.

    If our plan is to "trade him for picks" in the future, that tape is now out there forever. That does not help from a business POV.

    It was a bad decision to have him out there. Play McGloin, lose 50 to zero and finish Cook's redshirt season properly.

    People will now argue it will be a 'learning experience'. I've seen young QB's get wrecked permanently after easier games than a road game against the #1 defense in the league..In the playoffs...Without your pro bowl LT.
     
  14. godeep811

    godeep811 It's time to win again

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    Yep. No way can anyone put him in the top 10 or conversely, say he sucks

    Any way, I hope we don't have to see Cook anymore unless starters are being rested
     
  15. CrossBones

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    And the Raiders are experts at ruining players. Look it up! :D
     
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  16. JohnQ

    JohnQ Media hater

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    A capable backup is a lot better than we've had for the last hundred years.

    Hopefully the experience and working with Carr next year will teach him and help him improve.Also a better situation than we've had the last thousand years.

    How many times did we see our backup have to start and promptly break in half?
    Morevthsn I want to remember.

    Maybe just get Carr healthy.Coach up the kid.And go fill some other much more important needs.
     
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  17. Rupert

    Rupert The Long Wind

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    Correct. Reading helps comprehension, but doesn't ensure it.

    I've learned to expect that around here.
     
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    While i can agree with this sentiment i think Mcgod was still to hurt to actually play. Besides that would have been unbearable to watch.
     
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  19. 007

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    We punted 12 times and turned it over what 4 times? I think it was at about a 10 on the maximum 'unbearable' scale as it is.
     
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  20. Armyr8rfan

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    Yup. I think he will be a solid back up if he gets the #2 job and gets more reps. I think we can all agree the McGloin experiment is over.
     
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