Welcome to the Raiders: Yannick Ngakoue

Discussion in 'Raiders Discussion' started by raiderfreak7, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. Dummy McIdiot

    Dummy McIdiot Erection Frog.

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    So he's basically a higher payed Arden Key.
     
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  2. Madturk

    Madturk Barry McCockinner

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    9 sacks a year since he came into the league, I don't think so lol. He's not a good fit in a 3-4, prolly why he struggled with Baltimore. If we didn't sign him, everyone here would have been bitching and moaning.
     
  3. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    He wrecked our last game in Oakland all day, repeatedly beating Miller, who was having a good year. So let’s put this in perspective. Did he lose contain and QBs got out of the pocket and made plays?

    Yes, we could have signed a guy who gets fewer sacks and pressures the QB less often but stays in front or on the left or right of the QB. We’ve had a roster full of those players the last few years. Or go with a guy who actually sacks and pressures the QB. I’m still more concerned about his run D when the O makes a concerted effort to put the TE in motion to the weak side and run at him.
     
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  4. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Funny how this issue never came up when two well liked teams traded for him. They had the same tape as us. It’s now a story to explain to the world why those well liked teams spent assets on a player now wearing S&B. Fuck off. Unlike the well liked teams who traded for him, perhaps we paid the right price and he was willing to take less to play in a scheme that better fits his skill set.
     
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  5. Nobodyinparticular

    Nobodyinparticular PFF Grades Can Suck It

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    This is definitely a concern. Particularly with light-weight Littleton behind him on that side.

    I expect we would see the Dline shift so the DT on Ngakoue's side is aligned to take on the LT's block on that case.
     
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  6. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    We also have the options of “resting” Ngakoue for 3rd down and going with Crosby or Nassib to upgrade our weakside run D and/or replacing Littleton with Morrow. We can also stack Abram on that side to help blow up run plays.
     
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  7. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Best run defense is a high scoring offense. Looking at you Jon.
     
  8. BigTron

    BigTron Well-Known Member

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    Yannick has put up consistent pass rush numbers every year he has been in the NFL. You dont get edge players his age with that production at that price without some flaws. He will fix the speed issue the Raiders have off the edge. He may need to be deployed carefully against the run and against power run teams. Not a huge deal.

    Still a great value contract for a legit NFL edge rusher. Makes more room for the DT's inside and gives us another young threat out there. I still love this move. Crosby isn't a great run defender either. CF will be more valuable to the Raiders now and he can move around a bunch a help fix those problems.

    Stopping the run doesn't matter if the team coverts every third down. Like @gst8 said, score points and make teams pass more. Now at least maybe you can slow down guys like Herbert & Maholmes and those Denver targets etc. Slowing down the opposing offense will help the run defense situationally.
     
  9. TheNextStep

    TheNextStep TX BBQ > KC BBQ

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    Shit, I’d rather they run it on 3rd down. For the last two years, 3rd and 14 has been our Achilles heel.
     
  10. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Yannick can be exactly the player he's been all along and I'm still happy with this signing.

    @hawaiianboy was right all along. Bend the edge for fucks sake.
     
  11. alteredst8

    alteredst8 JayceFrost burner account

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    I don’t think he’ll be a four down DL for us. At first I think we’ll see him on 1st down and such, but as the year goes on we’ll see less and less of him in the early downs and more situationally in 2nd and longs and 3rd downs
     
  12. Byron2112

    Byron2112 4.65...

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    Yannick is going to be a Lance Johnstone type rusher for us, which is just fine by me... I just try to note that when he was really studding in jacksonville he was surrounded by Calais Campbell who was playing at an MVP level, as well as Malik Jackson, Donte Fowler and Telvin Smith studding out in the that front seven... and a couplea pro bowl corners in Jalen Ramsey and
    A.J. Bouye..

    gonna be a little different here.
     
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  13. hawaiianboy

    hawaiianboy Unfuckupable

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    If only we could find a DE that was great rushing the passer and great against the run... wouldn't that be swell
     
  14. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Nice comp.
     
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  15. Solve4X

    Solve4X Banana Nana Fo #FuckYouGruden

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    We can't afford that.
     
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  16. RaiderJF

    RaiderJF Well-Known Member

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    Like finding a Unicorn...
     
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  17. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Yannick $13m to give you 8 sacks.
    Ferrell $8.5m to stop the run.

    Mack $14.6m to do both.

    #sleetmathapproved
     
  18. Byron2112

    Byron2112 4.65...

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    we drafted one outta Clemson a couplea years ago..:chuckle:
     
  19. Solve4X

    Solve4X Banana Nana Fo #FuckYouGruden

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    It would have taken years to waste that many draft picks without the Mack trade!
     
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  20. raiderfreak7

    raiderfreak7 Well-Known Member

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    Johnstone is a good comp. I like the Derrick Burgess comp as well. Let him pin his ears back and get after the QB. He's going to make QBs uncomfortable and that's what we need. We've needed a guy that can bend the edge since Mack and Irvin.