Discussion in 'Raiders Discussion' started by MostWanted650, Apr 25, 2019.
uhh I don’t know
What?!? Clelin Ferrell over Josh Allen and Ed Oliver?!! Good player. TERRIBLE pick. Sorry @Raiders fans. Your team is gonna suck for another minute. ♂️ @SiriusXMFantasy
He would have been there between 6 and 10 I guess nobody wanted to trade up
Don’t suck Clelin.
Clelin Ferrell projects as a high impact defensive end at the NFL level. Ferrell is physically capable of exploding out of his three point stances but prefers to win with his hands on blockers as compared to relying on speed. His technical prowess, hands and transitional skills as a rusher will allow him to defeat well placed tackles off the edge. An ace run defender, Ferrell is a three down player immediately who should easily step into a starting role.
Well if he pans out he'll be gone in year 4. Sooo
Seems like more of a 4-3 end, which the Raiders, for better or worse, remain wedded to -- or maybe welded to. Josh Allen seems a better fit for a 3-4. Still, if it wasn't Allen, I was expecting to hear Ed Oliver. Even so, Ferrell certainly looks more the part of an every-down DE than, say, Arden Key.
We don 't know that, any more than we knew Quinnen Williams was going to be gone at 3.
There should be zero doubts about Ferrell producing in the NFL.
The more I saw of Ferrell, the more convinced I became that he absolutely has first-round talent. He is just too good of a pass rusher for me to be able to imagine 32 teams passing him up. I don’t know about his off-the-field situation or anything like that, but on the field Ferrell is a beast without a doubt.
He can fit in as a base 3-4 edge rusher, or a base 4-3 defensive end. He should be ready to start right away, but even if he just works in as a situational pass rusher at first, I believe Ferrell is going to be a big contributor this season and for every season thereafter, barring injury.
Because of his ability to rush the passer I can see Ferrell putting up the kind of sack numbers that will have him at least in the Pro Bowl conversation by his third season, too.
I would still rank Josh Allen and Montez Sweat higher than him on my board, but Clelin Ferrell isn’t that far off from those guys, to be honest. I would fully expect to hear his name called on the first night of the draft just like theirs will be, too. It will be interesting to see which out of those three ends up having the most impactful career.
I knew Gruden was gonna surprise everybody, and not in a very good way. I expected Oliver.
He’s definitely a solid 3 down DE. As I posted in a different thread nobody is trading up for Oliver or Allen so there must be issues with them
I don’t watch college football but I tuned into this year’s national championship and watched Ferrell dominate. I like this pick.
This dude would have been around in the teens. Maybe even in the 20s.
Same ol same ol.
If Ed Oliver and Rashard Gary are both still on the board by the time the Riders pick again, I wonder which one would they take?
Or do we trade up for Oliver if he falls a little further
Big reach we could of traded back pick up some extras and then got the guy. I mean it could be worse happy im not a giants fan
PFF on Ferrell:
Oakland Raiders – Edge Clelin Ferrell, Clemson
Oakland had the second-lowest team defense grade in 2018, and they have the first-round ammo to take the players they want. This seems like a reach anyway you slice it as Ferrell was 35th on our board. Still, his ability against the pass and run improves this defense.
Finished the 2018 season ranked 13th among edge defenders in overall grade.
Finished the 2018 season with the tenth-most pressures among edge defenders.
Tallied the 13th-best pressure rate among edge defenders last season (17.3%).
Ranked 10th among edge defenders in pass-rush grade in 2018.
PFF on Allen:
With Oakland and New York going against the grain, Jacksonville gets a steal at No. 7 overall in former Kentucky edge defender Josh Allen. He’s an outstanding pass-rusher with sneaky good coverage ability that can play multiple roles in any defense in the NFL.
1st overall grade among edges
1st pass-rush grade among all defenders
2nd in pass-rush win rate among edges (29.1)
1st pressure rate among edges (23.4)
All true but Clemson played tougher schedule. Ferrell’s best game may have been against Alabama in the national title game
Leave it to Oakland to draft a guy at #4 that they could have traded back and picked up 9 or 10 slots later!
Only works if someone wants to trade back