UDFA Thread

This is week 7 last year AKA October 2015 (recent) What do YOUR eyes tell you here? I see a short yardage BEAST for 2016. I dont care what the media sees.
 
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Ryan O’Malley TE Penn
Pig Howard WR Tennessee
James Cower DE Southern Utah
Drew Iddings DL South Dakota
Terran Vaughn OL Stephen F. Austin
Jalen Richard RB Southern Miss
Antonio Hamilton DB/KR South Carolina State
Perez Ford LB Northern Illinois
Greg Townsend Jr. DE USC
Oni Omoile OL Iowa State
Marvin Hall WR Washington
Darius Latham DL Indiana
Denver Kirkland OL Arkansas
Johnnie Holton WR Cincinnati
Max Mccaffery WR Duke
Kyrie Wilson LB Fresno State
David Glidden WR Oklahoma State (tryout)

Mayock had Cowser as a potential 3rd or 4th rounder

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/...dfa-profile-james-cowser-de-olb-southern-utah
 
6. James Cowser, DE, Southern Utah
An ultra-productive four-year starter, Cowser broke several of Jared Allen's Big Sky records with 80.5 tackles for loss and 42.5 sacks. He has pass rush traits that translate and will receive a chance as an undrafted free agent. However he is an older prospect (will be a 26-year old rookie) and shows limitations vs. the run.
 
I have high hopes for Debose but we obviously can't count on him. Glad we're bringing in returners. Looks like a good crop of UDFAs.
 
Even if you're right, we need fresh blood in this RB core. All this talk about drafting for the future and we haven't done a whole lot to prepare for Tay-Tay leaving after next season.

We drafted a good 3rd down back? That is help for our pro-bowl RB? Murray did average 4.0 ypc in his FIRST season as a full time RB. Is there no chance he improves in year two as a starter? Year two w Musgrave? Year two with this huge OL?

I will say it. Murray is not as bad as you dudes make him out to be. Can he be upgraded? Hell yes. He should share the workload. Is he terrible? Fuck no! Could he get better with this OL in year 2… absolutely.


Besides, all the talent at RB is in next years draft. NEXT YEARS DRAFT. Zeke was the only stud in this draft. We missed out on Martin/L.Miller. We will get one next year when Murrays contract is up. When the draft is loaded & there are more options in FA. Or Murray will seize the job and kill all his haters! Maybe Washington is a great #2 this year? Our RB postion will be fine with one more veteran add (Marshawn, A.Foster, R.Bush etc)
 
Tron is engaging Full Blown Dumbass Mode this morning.
 
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This is week 7 last year AKA October 2015 (recent) What do YOUR eyes tell you here? I see a short yardage BEAST for 2016. I dont care what the media sees.

His body is toast though. He knew it was time to hang 'em up. His back can't tackle much more. Love the guy but it was smart to get out while he can still walk.
 
We drafted a good 3rd down back? That is help for our pro-bowl RB? Murray did average 4.0 ypc in his FIRST season as a full time RB. Is there no chance he improves in year two as a starter? Year two w Musgrave? Year two with this huge OL?

I will say it. Murray is not as bad as you dudes make him out to be. Can he be upgraded? Hell yes. He should share the workload. Is he terrible? Fuck no! Could he get better with this OL in year 2… absolutely.


Besides, all the talent at RB is in next years draft. NEXT YEARS DRAFT. Zeke was the only stud in this draft. We missed out on Martin/L.Miller. We will get one next year when Murrays contract is up. When the draft is loaded & there are more options in FA. Or Murray will seize the job and kill all his haters! Maybe Washington is a great #2 this year? Our RB postion will be fine with one more veteran add (Marshawn, A.Foster, R.Bush etc)

I think Washington will be just fine. Kind of reminds me of a poor mans LTomlinson. He's got some wiggle and some legit speed. Really liking this pick
 
We drafted a good 3rd down back? That is help for our pro-bowl RB? Murray did average 4.0 ypc in his FIRST season as a full time RB. Is there no chance he improves in year two as a starter? Year two w Musgrave? Year two with this huge OL?

I will say it. Murray is not as bad as you dudes make him out to be. Can he be upgraded? Hell yes. He should share the workload. Is he terrible? Fuck no! Could he get better with this OL in year 2… absolutely.


Besides, all the talent at RB is in next years draft. NEXT YEARS DRAFT. Zeke was the only stud in this draft. We missed out on Martin/L.Miller. We will get one next year when Murrays contract is up. When the draft is loaded & there are more options in FA. Or Murray will seize the job and kill all his haters! Maybe Washington is a great #2 this year? Our RB postion will be fine with one more veteran add (Marshawn, A.Foster, R.Bush etc)

Even if, for the sake of argument, Murray is decent next year, it's a good bet that Reggie lets him walk for the same reasons McGloin will be out the door. The flip side to not investing high picks on RB's is throwing numbers at the position.
 
My cousin got signed to the texans! Juiced

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Tron is engaging Full Blown Dumbass Mode this morning.

-Murray's second year as a starting NFL running back. He should improve off his "rookie" debut.
- Murray's second year with Carr and company under Musgrave. He understands the system better, and has reps/exp now.
- KO a beast run blocking pro-bowl guard replaces JaMarcus Webb

He will improve. He had 4.0 ypc last season and 1k. I expect 4.5 and 1300yards minimal. My money is where my mouth is. We can revisit your irrational hatred for Murray next season.
 
I think Washington will be just fine. Kind of reminds me of a poor mans LTomlinson. He's got some wiggle and some legit speed. Really liking this pick
Fits the O like a glove.....and he appears to have been the guy all along.
 
Even if, for the sake of argument, Murray is decent next year, it's a good bet that Reggie lets him walk for the same reasons McGloin will be out the door. The flip side to not investing high picks on RB's is throwing numbers at the position.

Murray was decent last year dude. 4.0 and pro-bowl visit is considered "decent" in the NFL.

The issue was that we overworked Murray. He looked tired and beat up at times last season. He is also miscast in the passing game. Murray is a split the carries starting RB in the NFL. Not a workhorse and not a pass catcher. He killed us in that Bears game, I'm guessing that where all this hate for him comes from.

I expect the young RB to play better in Musgrave's system in year two. Its also his 2nd year as as full time RB in the NFL. Im sure he learned some lessons last season! The coaching staff probably also now understand how to use him to his ability AKA take him out of the passing game all together. Take him out of short yardage situations etc. I blame the coaching staff for playing him there, not Murray. He was a raw 6th round pick thrust into being a full time starter behind a shit run blocking OL. Lets not kid ourselves, what were we expecting?

Murray & _____ should split carries.
Olawale = short yardage
Washington / Reece = passing game / 3rd down.

We need to add another RB who can take some carries. It could be Washigngton, but that is asking a lot from a rookie at 5-8.

This is why we need a vet like Lynch, Foster or someone else half cooked. We dont need a stud RB badly, we need a stop gap until the next offseason. Then we will know exactly what we have in Murray and Washington and can proceed. If we wanna add a game breaker like Zeke, we may have a shot. I did not think we had a chance to do that this year. Zeke was the only stud RB. Miller & Martin didnt sign here, sounds like Reggie attempted to sign Martin. So what else could he have done.

TLDR: Murray/_____ + Washington = good enough for next season (Reece/Olawale are more RB than FB anyway)
 
Murray was decent last year dude. 4.0 and pro-bowl visit is considered "decent" in the NFL.

The issue was that we overworked Murray. He looked tired and beat up at times last season. He is also miscast in the passing game. Murray is a split the carries starting RB in the NFL. Not a workhorse and not a pass catcher. He killed us in that Bears game, I'm guessing that where all this hate for him comes from.

I expect the young RB to play better in Musgrave's system in year two. Its also his 2nd year as as full time RB in the NFL. Im sure he learned some lessons last season! The coaching staff probably also now understand how to use him to his ability AKA take him out of the passing game all together. Take him out of short yardage situations etc. I blame the coaching staff for playing him there, not Murray. He was a raw 6th round pick thrust into being a full time starter behind a shit run blocking OL. Lets not kid ourselves, what were we expecting?

Murray & _____ should split carries.
Olawale = short yardage
Washington / Reece = passing game / 3rd down.

We need to add another RB who can take some carries. It could be Washigngton, but that is asking a lot from a rookie at 5-8.

This is why we need a vet like Lynch, Foster or someone else half cooked. We dont need a stud RB badly, we need a stop gap until the next offseason. Then we will know exactly what we have in Murray and Washington and can proceed. If we wanna add a game breaker like Zeke, we may have a shot. I did not think we had a chance to do that this year. Zeke was the only stud RB. Miller & Martin didnt sign here, sounds like Reggie attempted to sign Martin. So what else could he have done.

TLDR: Murray/_____ + Washington = good enough for next season (Reece/Olawale are more RB than FB anyway)

This really isn't a "Murray sucks" point I'm making. That said, I brought his lack of toughness up in preseason last year.

My point is that I expect we let him walk next season rather than pay him an increased wage. That's the way it works with RB's these days and exactly why the Connor Cook pick is getting so much love from some - preparing for an inevitable future.

It's the UDFA thread and I'm wondering why so little focus has been put on a position of need.
 
Dude just turned 30 last week. And didnt play much last year. He is Re-ju-vena-ted, he was once juvenated, now he's rejuvenated. Dude is off doing charity work in Africa or some shit, getting his spirit right for another season of Beastn. He's not done, thats group think. Only done as a full-time guy. View attachment 3429
And he is going to leave a SB favorite to come to a team with crappy run-blocking that hasn't made the playoff in like 12 years
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And he is going to leave a SB favorite to come to a team with crappy run-blocking that hasn't made the playoff in like 12 years
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If he still wants to play... it'll be in Oakland.
 
This really isn't a "Murray sucks" point I'm making. That said, I brought his lack of toughness up in preseason last year.

My point is that I expect we let him walk next season rather than pay him an increased wage. That's the way it works with RB's these days and exactly why the Connor Cook pick is getting so much love from some - preparing for an inevitable future.

It's the UDFA thread and I'm wondering why so little focus has been put on a position of need.
Cook is a much better QB than any RB we could bring in now. Probably even in the 4th. QB is a more critical position than RB, especially if you think you have a solid run blocking OL.

I agree, the lack of quality depth is disconcerting. But next draft, as most assume, we won't be looking for a backup, we'll be looking for a starter, and there should be more of them available, which will make McKenzie more comfortable grabbing one later instead of investing a high pick on one.
 
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