The STADIUM Thread ver 2.0

Discussion in 'Raiders Discussion' started by CrossBones, Jun 25, 2015.

  1. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    They did it for under $700 mm back then. Guessing it will still cost over a $1B at least today. Soldier Field is an iconic landmark. The HOT not so much lol.
     
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  2. RF34

    RF34 Habitual Line Stepper

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    I told an ex once I needed some new pussy. She told me if I had 2 more inches I'd find some new pussy right here. :rain_cloud:
     
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  3. Diceq

    Diceq Tired of hatin...

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    It could work if dummy lost the tailgating jihad and moved that down the road....You could build the NFL HOF west like Al wanted and watch corporate $ suddenly think the location was as fine as RF34's ex:)
     
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  4. JohnQ

    JohnQ Media hater

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    Thing is it still takes money.I think part of the equation is having a place to play during construction too.But still Oakland has no money.
     
  5. JohnQ

    JohnQ Media hater

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    Oh no you di'int.
     
  6. RF34

    RF34 Habitual Line Stepper

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    Bonsignore: Future of Raiders, Chargers will be focus of NFL committee meetings in N.Y.
    Jan. 10, 2017 Updated 9:40 a.m.

    NEW YORK – Almost a year to the day after the Oakland Raiders and San Diego Chargers parted ways as stadium allies, the long-range future of the two old rivals seems intertwined once again.

    And while Los Angeles remains a key component of their connection, the NFL could be looking at ways to eliminate the L.A. part of the equation while getting the Raiders situated in Las Vegas and giving the Chargers more time to sort out things in San Diego.

    To that end, the NFL has summoned their owner-comprised Stadium and Finance Committees to the home office in New York to help map out a plan that achieves both objectives.

    The ultimate goal, according to sources, is clearing a path for the Raiders to Las Vegas and, in the process, buying Chargers owner Dean Spanos more time in San Diego.

    One of the the keys being manipulating is the one-year option Spanos holds on joining the Rams in Los Angeles that gets passed onto the Raiders on Sunday.

    The two teams were approved for those options a year ago in Houston when NFL owners chose the Rams' relocation bid to Los Angeles and their $2.6 billion stadium plan in Inglewood over the joint stadium plan by the Chargers and Raiders in Carson.

    The Chargers were given first dibs on the option, and decided to hold onto it through 2016 while pursuing a downtown San Diego stadium initiative. That bid was ultimately rejected by San Diego voters, forcing the Chargers to again take a serious look at Los Angeles.

    According to multiple sources close to the situation, Spanos is prepared to pull the trigger on L.A. and has already laid groundwork for a potential relocation.

    Or, as a high-ranking NFL official who spoke on the condition of anonymity put it, Spanos has been “telling everybody that he's (going to L.A.)”

    Additionally, the Chargers will not be in New York this week and are not planning to ask for an extension on the L.A, option, which further fuels the belief Spanos is prepared to turn the page in San Diego and relocate to Los Angeles.

    That decision could come any time, according to multiple sources.

    But while the NFL green-lighted a Chargers move to L.A. last January, there is strong indication the league prefers they stay put. If not permanently, at least long enough to get final clarity on a stadium partnership in San Diego.

    That's where the Raiders come in, and potentially the NFL's stadium and finance committees.

    If the Raiders are ultimately approved for Las Vegas – a prospect that is gaining more and more momentum and is expected to get a strong push from the NFL this week in New York – they'll no longer need their L.A. option. Theoretically, that option could revert back to the Chargers, who can then use the additional time provided to purse a new stadium proposal knowing they won't lose their landing spot in Los Angeles.

    Any option extension would have to be granted by the Raiders, who would require some form of compensation. But one could presume that compensation could come in the form of assurances that their Las Vegas objective is granted.

    But while an extended option addresses the element of time for the Chargers, there is still the concern of getting a suitable stadium deal in place that Spanos can be confident will prevail in an eventual San Diego vote.

    And that could be tied into lowering whatever funding gap exists between the Chargers' contribution to the stadium and the public portion being offered by San Diego.

    With California so hesitant to kick in money on professional sports stadiums – and the decision in San Diego ultimately resting in the hands of voters – the NFL could decide to sweeten the pot by adding more money to the cause. The league has pledged $300 million through its standard $200 million G-4 loan and another $100 million owners approved last January as incentive for the Chargers to work things out in San Diego.

    The topic of adding more league money is expected to be broached in New York.

    If so, the league could lower the public contribution enough to significantly improve the chances of a favorable vote.

    Whether the comfort level created by more time, more money and no fear of losing Los Angeles as a landing spot is enough for Spanos to apply the brakes on leaving San Diego remains to be seen.

    But first things first, and that begins with whatever comes out of this week's meetings in New York.

    As for the Raiders, with their season now over after losing their wild-card playoff game Saturday to the Houston Texans, they are free to file for relocation to Las Vegas. Awaiting them is a a stadium agreement in which Nevada will kick in $750 million, Sands Corp. head Sheldon Adelson will put in $650 million and the Raiders will contribute $500 million

    According to multiple sources, approval for a Raiders move to Nevada is picking up steam, and while one NFL executive cautioned it wasn't a done deal, he also added he doesn't see anything stopping it unless it hits an unexpected snafu.

    For now, the Raiders intend to sit tight and see what unfolds in New York before officially filing for relocation.

    Which sets the stage for a fascinating meeting this week in which the NFL is poised to draw up a map that could solidify the long-range futures of two franchises while making sure the Rams have Los Angeles all to themselves.
     
  7. TheMadStork

    TheMadStork Pastafarian

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    LA football fans react...

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  8. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    What is it with people in Third World Countries and Railway Lines?
     
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  10. RaiderNorth

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    ESPN's Jim Trotter reports the NFL believes the Raiders are done in Oakland, and are working to "clear a path" for a move to Las Vegas.
     
  11. Sleet

    Sleet #2016: Jack's 2nd Year The Charm?

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    Wow, so much for, "Make Oakland Great Again"!
     
  12. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    Well :eek:
     
  13. godeep811

    godeep811 It's time to win again

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    I hate it. I just hate the move to Las Vegas. The Las Vegas Raiders. Ugh.

    I'm concerned about losing a passionate fan base, that's there in Oakland now. I doubt the Raiders can replicate that in Las Vegas. I could care less about the gambling aspect.

    It's the loss of identity; the bad boy image that originated in Oakland.

    I get it though. You need a stadium to be competitive. You can't keep playing on a field that's an embarrassment. However, I just hate losing the fan base that's so passionate in Oakland and is doubtful to be seen with transient fans in Las Vegas.
     
  14. Sleet

    Sleet #2016: Jack's 2nd Year The Charm?

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    Puts a lot of pressure on Carr & Co. to keep winning. Being a lame duck in Oakland would absolutely suck otherwise.
     
  15. godeep811

    godeep811 It's time to win again

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    That's another thing. The whole distraction of playing in Oakland with Las Vegas being brought up constantly by the media. Or even their families, with the aspect of moving in their future. Not a huge deal but just another distraction to deal with
     
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  16. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    I agree @godeep811.

    The Las Vegas fan base (for the long haul) bother and worry me. I don't see it.

    Yes I know current fans say they're going to travel from Oakland and Los Angeles to watch the Raiders every week. I believe that will be short lived. Too time consuming and way too expensive.

    So that leaves what? The LV blue color crowd and tourists? Ugh.

    But you can't discount a $1.9 Billion brand spanking new stadium. The Raiders aren't getting that anywhere else (especially not in Oakland).

    So, Viva Las Vegas!
     
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  17. Sleet

    Sleet #2016: Jack's 2nd Year The Charm?

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    Mark should run season ticket promotion. If you buy season tickets in Oakland while the Stadium in Vegas is being built, you should not have to pay a (or pay the same) PSL to get season tickets in Vegas (of course, the promotion being for lesser quality seats).
     
  18. 1-800-Raider

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    Adelson would likely have Davis lynched.....

    They'd be crazy not to price the PSL's towards corporate customers like the casinos, banks, etc... $650 won't get you anything close to a PSL... maybe $650 will get you an annual parking pass.

    My guess is the casinos will likely make it difficult to buy tickets direct. They might just buy up all the PSLs and a large portion of the tickets hoping to pair them with hotel rooms, vacation packages, etc.... I have a feeling the business model of buying a ticket in Vegas will be very different than that of any other city....
     
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  19. JohnQ

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    Does that mean that Mark is going to get a new t-shirt to wear to the game?
     
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  20. Shagsta

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    I feel for the oakland fans but the politicians in oak screwed them over. No one to blame but them.