The fuck you Derek Carr thread..

Discussion in 'Raiders Discussion' started by Byron2112, Sep 23, 2018.

  1. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    Jesus does this whole thing frustrate me.

    Dude is open all game long.
     
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  2. DonkeyKilla

    DonkeyKilla Well-Known Member

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    You would think if that were true Gruden could coach Carr out of his mistakes. Seems to be the same issue we've seen since Washington smacked us in the mouth and made the blueprint...
     
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  3. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    Those floaters Carr tries to throw off his back foot make me sick. I’d like to slap the shit out of him. He’s in year six still making the same mistakes over and over. That’s who he is. Can’t coach it out of him apparently. And he exhibits the same flaws as he did in college that the “experts” warned about. They were right.
     
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  4. Desert Rat

    Desert Rat Well-Known Member

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    Some things you just can't coach. And now Carr has zero confidence which just magnifies his flaws. Jon isn't so much trying to hide them either. More like throwing him into the deep end of the pool to see if he can swim. Gives me hope that he may just move on.
     
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    DonkeyKilla Well-Known Member

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  6. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    Yeah the 'haters' are a broken record at this point but the truth is there for people to see.

    His mind is made up on where he is going pre-snap and he rarely comes off the first read unless its a dump off to Richard.

    The book is out on him for sure. I think the next thing we can kill is the whole 'still developing' idea when a guy is a 28 year old 5th year pro.

    You get what you get at this point.
     
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  7. raiderfreak7

    raiderfreak7 Well-Known Member

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    This week Carr lights it up. Then the next game he looks like a scared teenage girl. Rinse and repeat.
     
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  8. 007

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    It really is the worst scenario. So it probably does happen.
     
  9. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    Well realistically that Hag defense isn't very good.

    All I hear about is how they are running the ball like Dirty Pete wants but they haven't been stopping people on defense.

    So maybe there is a chance?
     
  10. DonkeyKilla

    DonkeyKilla Well-Known Member

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    we'll make them look like the old Legion of Boom
     
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  11. Nobodyinparticular

    Nobodyinparticular Well-Known Member

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    Yep.

    I guess there's a chance that Carr improves with better knowledge of Gruden's system and understanding Gruden's offensive philosophy better. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate to find some plausible reason here: Gruden's system is supposed to be incredibly complex and we are only 5 games into the season. So maybe there's that?

    But no one should be holding out hope that this actually happens. There's too big of a track record showing who Carr is and the types of decisions he makes.
     
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  12. cruedi

    cruedi Well-Known Member

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    but shit like the passes intercepted in the end zone and the throwing off his back foot. That's just poor play, not system dependent.
     
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  13. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    Sooner or later when things break down you expect your QB to make some plays on his own. I mean look at what Mahomes is doing as basically a rookie. Guy uses his legs to extend plays. Carr is just set in his ways. If he doesn't get it to his first read right away its usually a dump off to one of the backs. Wash rinse repeat.
     
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  14. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    Lot of lazy floating balls this season. That's just rookie type bullshit
     
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  15. godeep811

    godeep811 It's time to win again

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    This what Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller stated on Sirius. You have to give Carr time in Grudens system. Problem is we seeing some of the same issues with Carr regardless of what system he’s executing
     
  16. gst8

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    Carr is a conundrum. I think we all assume that he's getting a mulligan this year. Problem is, after next year his contract is in line with the Keenum's and Tannehill's of the world adjusted for inflation. So then, you have a QB familiar with your system who's contract is inline with a lower tier starting QB. Given the guaranteed money will already be mostly paid out I could see a desire to keep him from Mark and Jon.
     
  17. godeep811

    godeep811 It's time to win again

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    Garbage yards...you have to get into the end zone

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    Fun Fact: Derek Carr is on pace to throw for more than 5,000 yards this season. He is also on pace to throw more than 25 interceptions.
     
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  18. Bunyan

    Bunyan Don't Tread on Me

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    Statistics are for losers. And he's a loser. It is not the system. It's the QB. What do you think the receivers are thinking when they're open and he checks down or throws it away? It can't do much for their confidence in Carr.

    They get to a point where they say to themselves this team is going no where with this guy. They start to tune out. They don't want to hear Carr's rah, rah BS and speeches any more.
     
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  19. raiderfreak7

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    You know what's worse? He's likely our QB next year, too.
     
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  20. 007

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    Like you have said, right now with its current build this team is really hard to cheer for.

    I know I'm a Carr basher, but I enjoyed watching a no talent jabroni like Gradkowski play more than a guy like Carr with all the talent and no heart. At least he left it all out there and played with some guts.

    How does he have 5 yards rushing? I mean just the fear of running for the odd first down would help our offense. I just hate watching everything about this team.