OT: Kraft charged with Solicitation of Prostitution

But he is innocent at this point whether or not there is video evidence. If they want to release the video after he is found guilty of something then great but at this point in time, he is innocent.

But he's not innocent...that's the point. You know it, I know it, he knows it...everyone knows it. This isn't some ex-girlfriend claiming he hit her. This is black and white.
 
But he's not innocent...that's the point. You know it, I know it, he knows it...everyone knows it. This isn't some ex-girlfriend claiming he hit her. This is black and white.
Then ideally we can see the video after he is convicted or takes a plea deal. I don't think the presumption of innocence gets ignored because the media and public have already convicted him. If he takes a plea deal or is convicted then post the video to the public. I don't see what the prosecution gains by releasing the video other than trying to force him into a plea deal. This isn't me defending Bob Kraft. I fully believe in the presumption of innocence and just because Kraft is more than likely guilty of a crime does not mean I wouldn't be a hypocrite if I wanted different treatment for him than I would anybody else in the matter.
 
But he's not innocent...that's the point. You know it, I know it, he knows it...everyone knows it. This isn't some ex-girlfriend claiming he hit her. This is black and white.
Actually no. He is being charged with soliciting. What if the gal just started blowing him?
 
Actually no. He is being charged with soliciting. What if the gal just started blowing him?

LOL...seriously? It's a known rub 'n tug joint...he knew where he was going and what he wanted. When fat old men walk in those girls are all hoping that they ONLY want a massage.
 
Actually no. He is being charged with soliciting. What if the gal just started blowing him?

Because he's such an irresistible hunk of a man? Seriously, he has much of getting voluntarily blown as NIPS does of getting into MENSA.
 
LOL...seriously? It's a known rub 'n tug joint...he knew where he was going and what he wanted. When fat old men walk in those girls are all hoping that they ONLY want a massage.
I went to a chinese massage joint once and after about 30 minutes of massage the gal just reached for my cock, no asking if I wanted and I didn't ask for it and was really just there to get a massage. It's certainly possible... I'm sure he knew what he was in for there but you do have to prove he asked for it if he's going to be charged with soliciting is all I'm saying. That is probably on the video though if there is audio with it.
 
I went to a chinese massage joint once and after about 30 minutes of massage the gal just reached for my cock, no asking if I wanted and I didn't ask for it and was really just there to get a massage. It's certainly possible... I'm sure he knew what he was in for there but you do have to prove he asked for it if he's going to be charged with soliciting is all I'm saying. That is probably on the video though if there is audio with it.

Well yeah...you're a good lookin' rockstar! I'm just sayin'...if all he truly wanted was a massage then the hotel concierge could have provided that. He knew where he was going and what he was going for. You don't walk into a crack house looking to buy a pizza.
 
Well yeah...you're a good lookin' rockstar! I'm just sayin'...if all he truly wanted was a massage then the hotel concierge could have provided that. He knew where he was going and what he was going for. You don't walk into a crack house looking to buy a pizza.
I’m not suggesting he didn’t know what he was doing, I’m suggesting there may not be evidence of solicitation.
 
I’m not suggesting he didn’t know what he was doing, I’m suggesting there may not be evidence of solicitation.

I think it's pretty clear that there is...otherwise his lawyers wouldn't be so damned intent on making sure the video doesn't get released.
 
I think it's pretty clear that there is...otherwise his lawyers wouldn't be so damned intent on making sure the video doesn't get released.
I think they would be intent on it not getting released other way. You probably right though.
 
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