Official Training Camp thread...

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  1. raiderfreak7

    raiderfreak7 Well-Known Member

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    Rookies reporting today. Let's do this.

    Tuesday, July 23: Rookies, first-year players, recently rehabilitating veterans and quarterbacks report for training camp in Napa.

    Friday, July 26: Veterans report for training camp in Napa

    Saturday, July 27: First full-squad training camp practice.

    Monday, July 29: First padded practice in training camp

    Tuesday, Aug. 6: “Hard Knocks” with the Raiders premieres at 10 p.m. on HBO

    Wednesday, Aug. 7-8: Raiders host joint training camp practices with Los Angeles Rams in Napa

    Saturday, Aug. 10: Exhibition opener vs. LA Rams at Oakland Coliseum

    Tuesday, Aug. 13: Second episode of “Hard Knocks” airs at 10 p.m. on HBO

    Thursday, Aug. 15: Exhibition No. 2 at Arizona Cardinals, 5 p.m. (ESPN)

    Tuesday, Aug. 20: Third episode of “Hard Knocks” airs at 10 p.m. on HBO

    Thursday, Aug. 22: Exhibition No. 3 vs. Green Bay Packers at IG Field in Winnipeg, 5 p.m. (Bay: KTVU; Vegas KVVU)

    Thursday, Aug. 27: Fourth episode of “Hard Knocks” airs at 10 p.m. on HBO

    Thursday, Aug. 29: Exhibition No. 4: Aug. 29: Exhibition No. 4 at Seattle Seahawks, 7 p.m. (Bay: KTVU; Vegas KVVU)

    Saturday, Aug. 31: Rosters must be decreased from 90 players to the 53-man limit by 1 p.m.

    Sunday, Sept. 1: Claiming period ends for waived roster cuts at 9 a.m.

    Sunday, Sept. 1: Teams may formally sign a 10-man practice squad

    Tuesday Sept. 3: Final episode of “Hard Knocks” airs at 10 p.m. on HBO
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  2. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    Lets go!
  3. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    In before the annual Conley hurt announcement.
  4. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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  5. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't surprise me. Hopefully we've still got some bubble wrap left over from McFadden.
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  6. RF34

    RF34 Habitual Line Stepper

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    Raiders training camp depth chart: Doug Martin eager to show rookie Josh Jacobs the ropes
    By Vic Tafur 5h ago
    The Raiders return their leading rusher from last season, but Doug Martin was a late re-signee, is hardly ever talked about and won’t sniff 172 carries or 723 yards again this season.

    Yet, he is grateful. Martin was born in Oakland, enjoys playing for Jon Gruden and is enjoying being a mentor to rookie Josh Jacobs.

    “It’s not something I’m used to, but it’s something that I want to do,” Martin said last month. “I’ve been in the league eight years. I’ve been through the whole spectrum of good to bad in this league and, if I can teach somebody, if I can teach Josh (about) what to do, what not to do, how to stay in on the narrow path and just keep his eye on the goal, then I’m here for that.”

    Martin, 30, made $1.475 million last season and was hoping for a pay raise, but the free-agent market was quiet. He settled for $1.02 million when the Raiders came calling after free-agent signee Isaiah Crowell tore his Achilles tendon. But he did get another $1 million in incentive clauses, so things ended up OK after all.

    Martin said he never got down during the offseason.

    “If something doesn’t go your way, you just have to stay optimistic, and I was being optimistic with the situation,” Martin said. “I knew I was going to be somewhere and do good things, but it’s just crazy how things folded out. I wish happy healing to Isaiah Crowell for his Achilles, but, when there is chaos you just make a positive out of negative.”

    Martin and suspended guard Richie Incognito are the major additions since we last did the depth chart in April. Here is the new chart heading into the opening of training camp on Friday, with rookies in italics. We also have a scouting report on all 90 players on the roster.

    Quarterback: Derek Carr, Mike Glennon, Nathan Peterman

    Running back: Josh Jacobs, Jalen Richard, Doug Martin, Chris Warren III, DeAndré Washington (Isaiah Crowell, injured reserve)

    X receiver: Antonio Brown, Dwayne Harris, J.J. Nelson

    Fullback: Keith Smith, Alec Ingold

    Tight end: Darren Waller, Derek Carrier, Paul Butler, Luke Willson, Erick Swoope, Foster Moreau

    Left tackle: Kolton Miller, Brandon Parker, David Sharpe, Tyler Roemer

    Left guard: Gabe Jackson, Jordan Devey, Lester Cotton, Lukayus McNeil

    Center: Rodney Hudson, Jordan Devey

    Right guard: Richie Incognito (suspended two games), Denzelle Good, Jonathan Cooper, Denver Kirkland

    Right tackle: Trent Brown, Brandon Parker, Justin Murray, Andre James

    Z receiver: Tyrell Williams, Marcell Ateman, Keelan Doss, J.J. Nelson, Keon Hatcher, Rico Gafford, Brian Burt

    Slot receiver: Ryan Grant, Hunter Renfrow, Dwayne Harris, De’Mornay Pierson-El

    Defensive end: Arden Key, Benson Mayowa, Maxx Crosby, Quinton Bell

    Defensive tackle: Maurice Hurst, P.J. Hall, Eddie Vanderdoes

    Defensive tackle: Justin Ellis, Johnathan Hankins, Gabe Wright, Ronald Ollie

    Defensive end: Clelin Ferrell, Josh Mauro, Alex Barrett

    Outside linebacker: Tahir Whitehead, Nicholas Morrow, James Cowser

    Middle linebacker: Vontaze Burfict, Jason Cabinda, Te’von Coney

    Outside linebacker: Brandon Marshall, Marquel Lee, Kyle Wilber, Koa Farmer

    Strong safety: Johnathan Abram, Karl Joseph, Dallin Leavitt, Jordan Richard

    Free safety: Lamarcus Joyner, Erik Harris, Curtis Riley

    Left cornerback: Gareon Conley, Nevin Lawson, Isaiah Johnson, Nick Nelson, Dylan Mabin, Kaisean Nixon

    Right cornerback: Daryl Worley, Trayvon Mullen, D.J. Killings, Isaiah Langley, Rico Gafford

    Nickel cornerback: Lamarcus Joyner, Nick Nelson

    Special teams
    Kicker: Daniel Carlson

    Punter: Johnny Townsend, A.J. Cole

    Punt returner: Dwayne Harris, Antonio Brown

    Kick returner: Dwayne Harris, Antonio Brown

    Long snapper: Andrew DePaola, Trent Sieg
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  7. RF34

    RF34 Habitual Line Stepper

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    Raiders roster analysis: A position-by-position look at the 90 players arriving for training camp this week
    By Vic Tafur
    With the Raiders opening training camp on Friday in Napa, here’s a scouting report on all 90 players on their active roster.

    Quarterbacks (3)
    Derek Carr: When Antonio Brown literally knocked on Carr’s door this offseason, Carr welcomed him with open arms.

    Mike Glennon: A tall and lean quarterback who Jon Gruden has always liked since he was on his “Gruden’s QB Camp” TV show in 2013.

    Nathan Peterman: Much-criticized former Bill showed nice footwork at minicamp; likely headed to practice squad.

    Running backs (7)
    Josh Jacobs: Only ran for 100 yards in a game once at Alabama, but Gruden plans to take the training wheels off the first-round pick.

    Jalen Richard: Caught 68 passes last season but will be interesting to see his workload with Jacobs and Doug Martin in the mix.

    Doug Martin: Martin was almost left behind when he wanted a pay raise, but Isaiah Crowell’s Achilles injury at an offseason workout opened the door again. Gruden has always been a big fan.

    Chris Warren III: Big bruiser who looked great in the preseason last year but has not won the coaches’ trust.

    DeAndré Washington: Gruden compares him to all the nifty running backs that Patriots have used over the years. But Washington only had 30 carries last season.

    Keith Smith: Fullback came up short in a couple of crucial situations early last season, then was barely heard from again. He is a special-teams regular though.

    Alec Ingold: Regarded by some as the best fullback in college football last season. Then he wasn’t drafted, which speaks volumes.

    (Isaiah Crowell — injured reserve)

    Tight ends (6)
    Darren Waller: Looks the part of a big playmaker, with a large frame, top-end speed and good hands. Raiders never even tried to re-sign Jared Cook and coaches can’t stop raving about Waller.

    Derek Carrier: The Joker. Gruden calls Carrier that because he is a wild card with all the different places he can line up. We’ll see if The Joker is even in the deck this season.

    Paul Butler: Former tryout player really bulked up this offseason and has shown an ability to catch the ball in traffic.

    Luke Willson: Former Lion can block and catch a little.

    Erick Swoope: Former Colt can block and catch a little … especially in the end zone.

    Foster Moreau: It might happen sooner rather than later, but this rookie blocker will fill Lee Smith’s shoes.

    Receivers (12)
    Antonio Brown: One of the league’s best receivers, Brown traveled the world working out and posting the pics and videos on social media.

    Tyrell Williams: An interesting add. Williams never really broke through with the Chargers, and the Raiders threw a lot of money at the No. 2 receiver, hoping he is a reliable deep threat that will keep some attention off of Brown.

    Ryan Grant: Grant didn’t have a great season with the Colts last year, but he is a solid veteran slot receiver.

    Hunter Renfrow: Not big or fast, but Renfrow made a lot of clutch, tough catches at Clemson, and he has shown that same ability to get open just enough in the Raiders’ offseason workouts. In one of our podcasts, Maurice Jones-Drew has Renfrow going for 80 catches in the slot this season.

    Dwayne Harris: A roster lock, more for his kick-return skills and special-teams coverage than for his catches.

    J.J. Nelson: Speedster only lines up outside, which may make it hard to make this roster.

    Marcell Ateman: Can block out defensive backs in the end zone. Will have to show a little more this training camp to punch his ticket again.

    Keelan Doss: UC Davis product wasn’t drafted because of concerns about a pectoral injury, but Gruden convinced him to sign with Raiders by telling him he had a great chance to make the team.

    Keon Hatcher: A preseason star from a year ago who needs an injury to provide an opening.

    Rico Gifford: Practice teamer helped out a lot last year, using his speed to line up at receiver, defensive back and quarterback on the scout team in practice.

    Brian Burt: Has the Carr-Fresno State connection.

    De’Mornay Pierson-El: From the Alliance of American Football (AAF). His only shot is as a returner.

    Offensive linemen (16)
    Kolton Miller: To the surprise of some, is staying at left tackle despite the signing of Trent Brown. Put on some more muscle this offseason.

    Trent Brown: The 49ers didn’t want to pay him a lot because they were concerned with his weight. All he did was win a ring with the Patriots and cash in with the Raiders. Now the highest-paid tackle in the NFL.

    Brandon Parker: The third-round pick a year ago started at right tackle, and the Raiders threw money at Trent Brown. Not a great sign, but Parker has put on 30 good pounds and will be the swing tackle.

    David Sharpe: The former staff was intrigued by him, but the new one cut him and brought him back for depth.

    Justin Murray: Back of the rotation guy.

    Andre James: Undrafted, was teammates with Kolton Miller at UCLA two years ago.

    Tyler Roemer: Got kicked out of San Diego State but has the size that OL coaches love. Good project.

    Rodney Hudson: Starting center and quiet leader about to get a nice, big contract extension.

    Gabe Jackson: Is this the year he makes the Pro Bowl jump?

    Richie Incognito (suspended two games): Didn’t play last season but was a Pro Bowler two years ago and blew Raiders coaches away with his tryout. A possible impact addition (at the veteran minimum) and that makes all of the off-field issues a good risk in Gruden’s mind.

    Denzelle Good: Went from a possible starter after the draft to invisible at minicamp, with Incognito’s addition plus an undisclosed injury.

    Jordan Dewey: The new Jon Feliciano, only better in coaches’ minds. Will back up the guard and center positions.

    Jonathan Cooper: Former first-round pick was just signed to see if he can help fill in during the two weeks that Incognito is out.

    Denver Kirkland: A survivor. But this could be it.

    Lester Cotton: Undrafted rookie from Alabama. The Cooper signing was not a good sign for him.

    Lukas McNeil: Undrafted out of Louisville, he is 6-foot-5, 310 pounds and only getting bigger.
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    RF34 Habitual Line Stepper

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    Defensive linemen (14)
    Clelin Ferrell: The No. 4 overall draft pick is being asked to boost the pass rush. He is stout against the run, but the question will be: Does he have that explosive twitch that other pass rushers the Raiders passed on have?

    Josh Mauro: Stanford product also a run-defense guy who looks to start at this point.

    Arden Key: Played too much last season, coaches say. Will be in a third-down pass-rushing role and must finish plays better than he did during his rookie season.

    Benson Mayowa: The former Raider is back. Had four sacks with the Cardinals last year, and four would have made him a star for the Silver and Black.

    Maxx Crosby: His agents sold him as the next Jared Allen. Crosby is raw and needs to get bigger, but the Raiders need to see some of that explosiveness and push this season.

    Quinton Bell: Receiver turned pass rusher. Have to imagine the Raiders don’t use seventh-round pick much in preseason and try to stash him on the practice squad.

    Alex Barrett: Flashed a little bit in the AAF.

    Maurice Hurst: If you are picking the Raiders to make a big jump this season, then Hurst is probably a big reason why. He had some nice moments as a rookie, and has power, footwork, smarts and maturity to make an impact pushing the pocket.

    Justin Ellis: Solid.

    Johnathan Hankins: Defensive coordinator Paul Guenther really liked the job Hankins did when he came on board last season.

    P.J. Hall: The clock has started to tick for the second-round pick of a year ago. You saw some of that low leverage in the preseason last year, but not in the regular season.

    Eddie Vanderdoes: Third-round pick from 2017 has always had trouble staying healthy.

    Gabe Wright: Practice squad guy last season. That’s about it.

    Ronald Ollie: Former TV star from “Last Chance U” may only get one chance at this.

    Linebackers (10)
    Tahir Whitehead: Played a lot and didn’t do much last season, but maybe that was because of the players around him. We’ll see.

    Vontaze Burfict: Guenther pounded the table for him. Can Burfict still pound ball carriers?

    Brandon Marshall: The latest veteran LB addition. Las Vegas native is hoping to parlay his one-year deal into playing for Raiders again in his hometown next year.

    Marquel Lee: Coaches have tried him at a lot of different spots and weights over the years. Maybe backup is the right role.

    Nicholas Morrow: Like Lee, Morrow was asked to start and that may have been asking too much.

    James Cowser: Hard worker with a great personality who has been on and off the roster for years.

    Jason Cabinda: Guenther was high on him for a couple of weeks last season, but like Lee and Morrow, being a starting LB might just be out of his reach.

    Te’von Coney: Coaches got to know undrafted middle linebacker well at the Senior Bowl practices.

    Kyle Wilber: Special teams guy actually got some pressure on the QB when he was used as a pass rusher late last season.

    Koa Farmer: Rookie Penn State product doesn’t bite on ball fakes. That’s all I got.

    Cornerbacks (10)
    Gareon Conley: Looks like he is growing into a reliable cornerback. Enjoys the challenge of covering top receivers on an island.

    Daryl Worley: Gruden loves his toughness and he seems to have a nose for the football, which is not bad as far as tired clichés go.

    Trayvon Mullen: He looks the part. Made a lot of plays at Clemson and will have the opportunity to jump in and do that here.

    Nevin Lawson: Former Lion will have the chance to compete for playing time as well.

    Isaiah Johnson: Guenther said Johnson has everything you’re looking for (size, speed, good feet and length) in a developmental cornerback

    Nick Nelson: Fourth-round pick a year ago is almost an afterthought now.

    Dylan Mabin: High-school teammate of Browns standout Denzel Ward.

    Keisean Nixon: Slot corner prospect who will have to stand out on special teams.

    D.J. Killings: Living on the fringe. Has made training camp or practice-team stops with the Patriots, Eagles, Packers and Colts.

    Isaiah Langley: Langley had 105 tackles (79 solo), 13 passes defensed and one interception in four seasons at USC.

    Safeties (7)
    Lamarcus Joyner: My pick to be one of the defensive leaders, he has already taken Johnathan Abram under his wing. Former Ram will line up more at slot cornerback than safety.

    Johnathan Abram: Likes to talk and hit people. A perfect Raiders defensive back.

    Karl Joseph: He has worked hard to win over the new staff enough that he is back in the conversation to start after not playing early last season. Playing for a new contract after the Raiders didn’t offer a fifth-year option.

    Erik Harris: Gets a little better every season, which is how you get from the CFL to getting a second contract with the Raiders.

    Curtis Riley: Could be a nice sleeper. Has appeared in 27 games (16 starts) and had 84 tackles (68 solo), five interceptions (with one returned for a TD) and seven passes defensed in four seasons with the Titans and Giants.

    Dallin Leavitt: Special teams is his only ticket.

    Jordan Richards: “Everybody you talk to, they rave about it – his communication, his football character, his leadership,” Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said after making Richards a second-round pick in 2015. The Stanford product wasn’t a fit there — recovery speed has been an issue — and he is still looking for a home.

    Special teams (5)
    Daniel Carlson: Sebastian who?

    Johnny Townsend: Really struggled last season, and coaches brought in some competition for the punter it drafted last season.

    A.J. Cole: Cole tried out and won a spot. He averaged 43.7 yards per punt at North Carolina State in 2017, and 23 of his 54 kicks stopped inside the 20-yard line

    Andrew DePaola: Highest-paid long snapper in league is back from a knee injury.

    Trent Sieg: While DePaola was gone, Sieg stepped in and did a great job. For dirt cheap. Should be a good training-camp battle.
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  9. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    QB battle looks to be a slugfest. No calling that one.
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  10. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    WR is the most interesting group by far though. More talent that spots for the first time since the heralded Moss, Porter, Gabriel, Curry, Morant crew.
  11. raiderfreak7

    raiderfreak7 Well-Known Member

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    Sure will be a lot of competition. Hard Knocks should be fun just because we get to actually see guys make plays and hear the coaches talking behind the scenes.
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  12. Crow

    Crow You get what you fucking deserve

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    Big bucks. No whammies.
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  13. hawaiianboy

    hawaiianboy Unfuckupable

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    Do we put the Baker Mayberry and Team Mack training camp stuff here as well?
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  14. PantherRaider

    PantherRaider Well-Known Member

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    Benson Mayowa 4 sacks and that would've made him a star in oakland. :faider:Fuck! Why can't the Raiders coaches ever figure out the defense? I still wanted Josh Allen to take a little of that sting from the Mack trade. Nope let's reach again, we're the Raiders and we outsmart ourselves then we fuck ourselves in th ass. This is like Dragosani reliviving his death in the moebius continuum. So sick of this team having a suck ass defense. I can live with Carr for another wasted year but that fucker needs to take his jesus ass somewhere else. Okay I'm ready for the season ,I'll be watching Sunday ticket with a senile old man in a cabin in the woods. True fucking story ,but at least I haven't sold my ass to Nips yet. I'm In at least until that 1-3 or 2-4 record rears it's ugly head and everyone turns on Tom Cable.This team is like my life it's fucked but I survive another year hoping shit will turn around. Bones change my name to HoboRaider when you get a chance. I will change your depends for you I have that skillset now.Hip Hip Hurray!
  15. CrossBones

    CrossBones Return to Glory

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    Cleveland: 12-4
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  16. TheMadStork

    TheMadStork Great and Unmatched Wisdom

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    You're @CrossBones great-great-grandson???
  17. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Team Air Raid or don't post it.
  18. Crow

    Crow You get what you fucking deserve

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    Gotta be kin to @Armyr8rfan with his aversion to paragraphs.
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  19. hawaiianboy

    hawaiianboy Unfuckupable

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    It's clearly the result of Blackreign in breeding...
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  20. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Is a PantherRaider some kind of designer breed like a Laberdoodle or some shit?