Discussion in 'Raiders War Room' started by Armyr8rfan, Nov 19, 2019.
Anyone know a cool tool/site other than fanspeak?
My plan going in was Simmons or Moses at 14. I took Brown who fell.
Simmons was there again at 20. I took JJ.
As I sat on the toilet, legs going numb, I waited and locked my eyes on Murray....
As the picks rolled in my stomach became queasy, did I fuck up and fail to address LB, like we always do IRL?
No. It was just another volley of semi runny, foamy ass vomit...
I watch Murray’s name as I am two picks away...
Then I take Jacobs old running mate to be his new running mate.
I grab the top rated G left on the board as I’m preparing for the eventual replacement of Incognito/Jackson.
I take another speedy LB outta LSU who also offers some pass rush.
And in round 7, somehow Hudson is still on the board. Excellent blitzer, tweener LB/S with excellent chase skills and decent in coverage.
Not too shabby.
Fanspeak is dead. Use this one
Hard to pass on Kinlaw and Weaver for a WR.
14 Javon Kinlaw DT S Carolina
20 Curtis Weaver Edge Boise St
78 Najee Harris RB Bama
84 Donovan Peoples-Jones WR Mich
92 Joe Bachie Jr. LB Mich St.
116 Alohi Gilman S Notre Dame
211 JD Spielman WR Nebraska
I really need to watch Weaver and Epensa because right now hearing their names associated with the Raiders makes me want to kick someone in the balls.
I like Weaver quite a bit.
Watch the LSU kid he's got some of that bend you're looking for
La'Chaveon or whatever? Kinda disappoint on his production though. Always a red flag with that.
Thoughs on Yetur Gross-Matos? Decent production, seems Guenther friendly, and sounds like he has the athletic traits.
Actually sounds like a more athletic Clelin Ferrell.
Matos has a relentless motor like Maxx but from the reports I read, he’s not a finished product yet.
I can work with that though. Good motor, athletic, and decent production? Sign me up.
Start there in round one with pass rushers.
You can teach technique, hand usage, you can get stronger or more physical.
Crosby and Ferrell are the perfect case study. One guy can turn the corner and is actually gaining strength every week.
The other guy can't turn the corner.
And didn’t they say Ferrell has 7 games without a hit or pressure on the QB?
That seems hard to do haha.
You would think the OL would trip or something once or Clelin could fall ass backwards into a pass rush move.
Agreed but I like to see some production there as well. Chaisson hasn't even reached Ferrell level production yet.
That's a red flag to me.
But yeah, I mostly just read about guys at this point but if I don't see something about plus athleticism, it's a no go.
Chaisson plays kind of a hybrid role for LSU and doesnt rush the passer as much as I would like.
I agree though, 2 sacks aint gonna do the trick.
A balance to be found for sure.
14. Grant Delpit - FS -LSU - Legit sized rangy pass defender. He can cover TE's at 6'3.
20. Javon Kinlaw - IDL South Carolina - another disruptive DT to help the pass rush.
78. DeVonta Smith - WR Alabama - Technical route runner, deep threat speed and ability.
84. Colin Johnson - WR Texas - Big body & size. Red zone match-up nightmare. Great hands. Chain mover.
92. Najee Harris - RB - Alabama - Steven Jackson clone. Great hands and size. NFL starting quality.
116. Trevon Hill - Edge -Miami - A bendy pass rush only guy w juice off the edge. Kicked off VT at one point.
211. Tipa Galea'I - Edge - Utah State - my favorite sleeper by far. Explosive madman off the edge. Bend/Burst/effort all there.
Hate taking another DB in Delpit but the talent is Derwin James-like. We need a person to defend the TE and I.Simmons was gone. Kinlaw is another pick based off talent. I couldn't pass a disruptive interior defender for another need. He fits right in the rotation and starts day one. D.Smith is the deep threat that this offense needed in Antonio Brown. He also is a technical route runner. Kinda skinny tho, hence round three. I also snagged Collin Johnson from Texas. I feel he is a reliable hands catching first down making red zone type. If he can separate and show quicks running routes at the combine he could be a longtime starter in the NFL. The injury bug has really sapped his career so far. N.Harris is my favorite running back in the draft. I run to the podium in round 3 and laugh the entire way. This offense is top 5 now. Hill & Galea'I are two bendy speed rushers. I felt they both fit what this DL group needed. Obviously throwing shit at the wall at the end of the draft won't inspire anyone in our DE position moving forward.
I fail to adress glaring needs at LB, DE & CB. We also need another interior OL to back up our core guys. Id throw some money at:
1. DE - Clowney/Fowler/Ngakoue/Barrett/Mercilus- quality pass rushing DE's and we have money.
2. LB - Shaq Thompson/ Trevathan / Van Noy - Find at least one solid starter if not two. Pass coverage is paramount here.
3. CB - C.Harris / Jimmy Smith / Waynes, Darby, Roby etc - not an overwhelming FA class. But you can find a starting quality CB or two to stop gap this position until 2021 offseason.
the draft network shits all over fanspeak
Detroit eventually ended up with Calvin Johnson so maybe we're due to hit on a DB. It's not like we don't need one anyway.
No, hit or sack. He's still getting 1 pressure in his other games.
I’ll check it out thanks!
I like Kinlaw a lot. He really fits what Guenther all of a sudden has been looking for. A tall, athletic DT who can disrupt the passer and come down the line in the run game. Another name the Bama kid, Davis, hasn’t been asked to do that much (from what I’ve seen) but his numbers I predict will lead teams to believe he can.
I wouldn’t mind bringing in the proven Harris as our new nickel CB. Already knows the division. Upgrade over Joyner there.
I feel like Joyner May be one and done here ($ may dictate otherwise). He’s been mostly awful.