Fuck you Derek Carr

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  1. RF34

    RF34 Habitual Line Stepper

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    B/R.net hardest hit...

    Every NFL Team's Best Draft Pick of the Past Decade
    KRISTOPHER KNOXAPRIL 3, 2021

    Las Vegas Raiders: QB Derek Carr (2014)
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      Khalil Mack, Maxx Crosby and Josh Jacobs all deserved consideration for the Las Vegas Raiders, but quarterback Derek Carr was the top choice.

      A woefully underappreciated quarterback, Carr has been nothing short of a franchise staple since being drafted in the second round in 2014. Carr is a three-time Pro Bowler who continues to produce at a franchise-quarterback level.

      The former Fresno State star has been fantastic over the past two seasons, though he hasn't received a Pro Bowl nod since his third straight trip in 2017. In 2019, he passed for 4,054 yards with 21 touchdowns and eight interceptions. Last season, he threw for 4,103 yards with 27 touchdowns and nine interceptions.

      While Carr may not be considered among the league's elite quarterbacks, he is a centerpiece, and at 30 years old, he should remain that way for the foreseeable future.

      https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2939195-every-nfl-teams-best-draft-pick-of-the-past-decade
     
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  2. gst8

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    We should just get an incomplete, did not participate grade.
     
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    RF34 Habitual Line Stepper

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    Inside the Raiders: Carr and Gruden — still together against all odds
    Raiders quarterback Derek Carr and coach Jon Gruden need to produce some wins to keep union strong

    By JERRY MCDONALD | jmcdonald@bayareanewsgroup.com | Bay Area News Group
    PUBLISHED: March 31, 2021 at 5:00 a.m. | UPDATED: March 31, 2021 at 4:22 p.m.

    They said it would never last.

    Yet here we are, with Derek Carr and Jon Gruden, for better or worse, rolling in to their fourth season together with the Raiders.

    The impulsive, excitable and occasionally harsh and profane coach paired with the clean-speaking, clean-living quarterback who wasn’t going to be able to tolerate in-your-face coaching.

    A season of quarterback musical chairs has left Carr unscathed and without even a really good rumor unless you bought the Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson scuttlebutt a month or so ago.

    Wilson is still in Seattle, making nice with his new teammates. Watson has gone underground with his desire to play somewhere other than Houston, and faces more serious civil matters than where he’ll be playing in 2021.

    Matt Stafford was traded by the Lions to the Rams in exchange for Jared Goff at a high price for both teams in terms of dead money under the salary cap. The latest premium crop of quarterbacks saw the 49ers trade up to draft Jimmy Garoppolo’s eventual successor.

    Carson Wentz, who was once-upon-a-time one of those prized prospects, was dumped by the Philadelphia Eagles and will attempt to resurrect his career in Indianapolis.

    You can’t even scare up any speculation regarding Gruden and his latest quarterback “crush,” as was dubiously reported in 2019 about his love at different times for both Kyler Murray and Dwayne Haskins.

    When the season begins, Carr, who turned 30 last week, will be the fifth-longest tenured quarterback of the team that drafted him. He is entering his eighth season, trailing only Ben Roethlisberger of the Steelers (18th season), Aaron Rodgers of the Packers (17th season), Matt Ryan of the Falcons (14th season) and Wilson of the Seahawks (10th season).

    Longest-tenured QBs in NFL with one team:
    Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers, 18th season (156-74-1)
    Aaron Rodgers, Packers 17th season (126-63-1)
    Matt Ryan, Falcons, 14th season (113-92)
    Russell Wilson, Seahawks, 10th season (98-45-1)
    Derek Carr, Raiders, 8th season (47-63)

    — Jerry McDonald (@Jerrymcd) March 30, 2021

    The difference in Carr’s case is at 47-63, he is the only one who has a losing record and hasn’t played in a playoff game. Retaining a starting job with just one season out of seven over .500 is not easy. He’s done a lot of good things in terms of accuracy, production and minimizing interceptions. His critics cite deficiencies in more advanced analytics as well as a propensity for lost fumbles.

    Carr has gotten incrementally better in each of the past two seasons under Gruden, but not yet good enough. The bottom line is wins and losses, and both Carr and his coach need to get their act together on the most important of scores.

    At this point, it’s hard to know whether Carr or Gruden has more detractors among the fan base. A good portion would like to see both out the door, with just as many convinced that a decent defense would put the Raiders back to double-digit wins.

    When Carr lines up for Week 1, he’ll have started more regular-season games at quarterback under Gruden than anyone else. He’s currently tied at 48 with Rich Gannon (1999-2001).

    There have been 12 quarterbacks drafted in the first round over the past three years, and Gruden hasn’t made a move for any of them. It will be the same thing in 2021 unless that quarterback also happens to be a right tackle of some repute.

    When the Raiders signed Carr to his second contract, he was temporarily the NFL’s highest-paid player at five years and $125 million. Now he’s 13th in terms of average salary per season.

    Carr is the last man standing from the team’s 2014 draft class that included Khalil Mack, Gabe Jackson and Justin Ellis. He’s only one of three players who ever played for Jack Del Rio in 2017, with Jalen Richard and Nicholas Morrow the others.

    If the Raiders actually get into the postseason, it’s conceivable Carr, whose original contract runs through 2022, could be in line for an extension and another huge payday.

    If not, the forces of an expiring deal and the organizational frustration of mounting losses could finally take its toll on the Carr-Gruden collaboration rather than the supposed disparate personalities of the two parties involved.

    Which would cause a legion of experts to proclaim, “Told you it would never work.”
     
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  4. godeep811

    godeep811 University of Mars

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    "When Carr lines up for Week 1, he’ll have started more regular-season games at quarterback under Gruden than anyone else. He’s currently tied at 48 with Rich Gannon (1999-2001)."

    That surprises me....:eek:
     
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    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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  6. gst8

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    Can't wait for Carr to light the Mark Davis eternal flame for our inaugural home opener in Medillin.

    All the old timers will be like "remember 2016".
     
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  7. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    :facepalm:
     
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    Pretty good for a "pussy."
     
  9. TheNextStep

    TheNextStep TX BBQ > KC BBQ

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    Image does not exist + pretty good pussy = incel?

    I fucking hate common core.
     
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    You cannot see the image? It is showing up on my end.

    Ugh, technology. Spend all day with the football coaches fixing the printers for them since our IT department sux ballz.
     
  11. Winston Smith

    Winston Smith Living in 1984

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    Good pussy on a photo and the image no longer exists. Its been that kind of day.
     
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  12. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Is this some kind of metaphor for Carr not showing up?
     
  13. gst8

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    Maybe it’s a picture of his playoff wins...
     
  14. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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  15. Desert Rat

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    Derek's ultra conservative play produces stats but it's not winning football. With Mark in Derek's hip pocket there is no end in sight for any change. Derek is bigger than the coaches and GM's with in the organization. He is above criticism from any that have ever been there.
    Maybe Mark has named him in his will as his sole heir?
     
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  16. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Derek’s play style would produce plenty wins on a good team. He has played one year on a team with a top 10 D ranked in the top 10 in turnovers or points per game (never both). And he went 12-3.
     
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  17. Langlier

    Langlier Settle Down... RIP Willie

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    I'd be happy with something above 20.
     
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  18. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Sure . . . if good at creating turnovers. But if they continue to suck at creating turnovers, top 20 won’t do.
     
  19. Desert Rat

    Desert Rat Well-Known Member

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    All the Raiders need is a top ten defense to go with the highest priced offense in the NFL and we be good, or at least have the ball bounce their way and get the officials to make some favorable calls.
    The perfect storm of 2016. It could happen again. Wait for it....
     
  20. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    WTF are you rambling on about? The O is not the highest priced this year. And it wasn’t last year either, especially when you deduct $30M spent on Williams, Richie and Brown, who started 6 games. Lol. A top 10 D in ppg or turnovers is not a luxury item, but is how any QB consistently wins football games.
     
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