Fuck Jon Gruden

Discussion in 'Raiders Discussion' started by PantherRaider, Dec 15, 2019.

  1. raiderfreak7

    raiderfreak7 Well-Known Member

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    I would also like to win.
     
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  2. Winston Smith

    Winston Smith Living in 1984

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    I agree that it is marketing and a promotion. It is also a lie...which is fine but don't try to sell that lie to someone who knows the truth.
     
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  3. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    It’s not a lie. Lol. It’s puffery being purposefully misinterpreted. Motion denied.
     
  4. Darkenblot

    Darkenblot Well-Known Member

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    Green Bay kicked Lambeau out of the organization. The man founded the team. One of the things that drew me to the Raiders (outside of Carr and my father's fanhood) is that the team cultivates its alumni relationships. I respect that.
     
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  5. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    Carr drew you to the Raiders?

    Seriously?
     
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  6. Darkenblot

    Darkenblot Well-Known Member

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    Players, as a whole, were never loyal in NFL history. The AFL survived because of that principle. They waved the money wand and stole veterans and draft picks. The CFL would regularly pick off players in the 1950s. Hell, the league was founded in 1920 to combat the team jumping that left the Ohio League disorganized and penniless.
     
  7. Darkenblot

    Darkenblot Well-Known Member

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    He was one of the reasons. Started following him in college. Didn't have a NFL team at the time. It worked out. My dad grew up a Raiders fan (loved Stabler and Casper) but he stopped following hardcore in the early 1990s. Plus, I love lost causes. I am a Pirates fan for a reason.
     
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  8. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    Carr drew me away from the Raiders.

    To each his own lol.
     
  9. Darkenblot

    Darkenblot Well-Known Member

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    I was your replacement. LOL

    To balance it out. A soul for a soul.
     
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  10. Winston Smith

    Winston Smith Living in 1984

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    You are the anti-logic to my logic.
     
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  11. Crow

    Crow Harbinger of Chaos

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    Doesn't make a damn bit of sense, does it?
     
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  12. TheNextStep

    TheNextStep TX BBQ > KC BBQ

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    Good line.
     
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  13. Darkenblot

    Darkenblot Well-Known Member

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    Dude, you missed the obvious line.

    I am the O'Brien to your Winston Smith.
     
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  14. Darkenblot

    Darkenblot Well-Known Member

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    Well, neither do the Raiders.
     
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  15. Crow

    Crow Harbinger of Chaos

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    Valid.
     
  16. Dummy McIdiot

    Dummy McIdiot Erection Frog.

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    Carr? LMFAO.
     
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  17. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Well, you were right but the early reports about James’ new contract were wrong. It is a 3 year contract, starting this year at $2.5M, with $8.65M in new money but only $4M guaranteed. James will get $6M over 2 years if not cut, but not $11M in 3. James would only get $3.5M in 2023. So, basically, we agreed to a 1st round tender and advanced over $1.6M this year for an option to pay James $3.5M in 2023. James’ 3-year contract ranks #21 among centers (including #21 in terms of ‘21 cap hit, #18 in terms of new money, and #17 in terms of cash spent if we cut him after 1 year). The “upside” would last only 1 year provided James ranked #17 or better in terms of performance.
     
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  18. Armyr8rfan

    Armyr8rfan Well-Known Member

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    If you just started watching football in 2016 lol.

    At least he was mostly fun to watch again in 2020. I didn’t think he had it in him to go deep that often.

    He better keep that shit up too, because the stadiums are gonna have booing fans this year boys lol!
     
  19. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    More than Mayock? Lol. Vic needs his own thread.

    “I think I said this in the podcast. If Gruden’s seat ever gets warm, he just chucks it out the window and gets another one. There are a couple of scapegoats already lined up for next season if the Raiders don’t improve on 8-8,” Tafur wrote this week in The Athletic.
     
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  20. gst8

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    He ain’t lying.
     
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