Fire Norton!

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  1. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    Wrote ESPN.com, in November of 2011 following his departure:

    “(Jaguars fans) will remember Del Rio’s tenure as one that lasted too long and was filled with quarterback chaos, inconsistency, staff turnover and late-season collapses.”

    The same story cites Del Rio as having “a penchant for throwing players and assistants under the bus.” He fired 19 assistant coaches during his time with the Jags, according to ESPN. :eek:



    Source: Del Rio's Tenure in Jacksonville Had Highs, Lows | NBC Bay Area http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Del-Rios-Tenure-in-Jacksonville-Had-Highs-Lows-288411801.html#ixzz4VTvQqnw4
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  2. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    We are so easy to game plan against. Just work crossing routes with the TE's for big gainers. We have no one that can cover a TE.
    I'll gladly take a top 15 defense
     
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  3. calojay

    calojay Resident Realist

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    ENGLEWOOD, Colo.— Wade Phillips has been nothing but deferential this year when it comes to his top-ranked Denver Broncos defense.
    But it’s all just a front.
    Read Phillips’ tweets and listen closely to his recent news conferences, and you’ll discover a brilliant defensive mind and a man who takes great pride in not just building a defensive scheme, but his ability to adapt it year to year, roster to roster.

    “I don’t understand the people that say, ‘Hey, this is our scheme, and that guy can’t play in it. The guy can play, he’s a good player, but he can’t play in our scheme,' " Phillips said last week.
    “Well, to me. There’s something wrong with your scheme.”
    And that, indeed, has been the secret to his success in his first year as Denver's defensive coordinator. He saw Talib and fellow corner Chris Harris and knew they were best suited to play man-to-man coverage. Phillips saw Miller and veteran pass rusher DeMarcus Ware and knew how he could aggressively send both off opposite edges while stunting defensive ends Derek Wolfe and Malik Jackson through the middle. Phillips saw two inside linebackers, Danny Trevathan and Brandon Marshall, who were strong against the run, but that he could trust to cover running backs on anything from screens to deep routes.

    Phillips inherited all of those players from the previous regime, when Jack Del Rio ran the defense. And while the unit was a good one, Phillips made it great. All season, players have praised his play calling and knack for knowing.
    “You look at his track record and how many times has Wade gone to an organization, team and real fast done things?” Broncos coach Gary Kubiak said. “It tells you what type of teacher he Is".

    Phillips took to Twitter to discuss the complicated art of blitzing — perhaps a shot at analysts who said the Broncos rarely blitzed against the Patriots — and later in the week gave a history lesson about the matchup zone coverage scheme. He might not have a Dick LeBeau-like reputation for confounding opposing offenses, but that doesn’t mean Phillips' system is simple.
    “I’m pretty confusing usually. We play a matchup zone, and people think it’s man-to-man. Then we play man-to-man, and we play some basic zone. This man knows football, and he learned it from his father, Bum Phillips.
    “My dad was my hero. "Everything that I learned about football and about people and how to work with people was from him.”
     
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  4. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    “I don’t understand the people that say, ‘Hey, this is our scheme, and that guy can’t play in it. The guy can play, he’s a good player, but he can’t play in our scheme,' " Phillips said last week.
    “Well, to me. There’s something wrong with your scheme.”

    :chuckle:
     
  5. DonkeyKilla

    DonkeyKilla Well-Known Member

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    fucking god damn.. dude is available and we don't pursue. Dumb....
     
  6. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like he's LA bound...
     
  7. Madturk

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    Least we will have him out of the division.
     
  8. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    Sumthin' wong.
     
  9. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    On the bright side, lol at the fucking Broncos. They let go of Phillips in favor of the architect of the 4th worst defense in football? Dump.
     
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  10. Dummy McIdiot

    Dummy McIdiot Thick as a brick.

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  11. Birdwell

    Birdwell Bring the third incarnation.

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    Ah, the Nick Saban/Alabama approach. We don't need coaches, just recruiters and boosters who will supplement salaries. Yep, we good.
     
  12. Birdwell

    Birdwell Bring the third incarnation.

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    While we're on the subject, here's what the Genius GM has done in the draft to help his coordinators. Clearly the OC got the better of this.

    QB: Tyler Wilson, Derrick Carr, Connor Cook
    RB: Latavius Murray, DeAndre Washington
    WR: Juron Criner, Brice Butler, Amari Cooper, Andre Dubose
    TE: Nick Kasa, Mychal Rivera, Clive Walford
    OL: Tony Bergstrom, Menelik Watson, Gabe Jackson, Jon Feliciano, Anthony Morris, Vadal Alexander

    DL: Jack Crawford, Christo Bilukidi, Stacy McGee, David Bass, Justin Ellis, Shelby Harris, Mario Edwards Jr., Jihad Ward, Shilique Calhoun
    LB: Miles Burris, Nathan Stupar, Sio Moore, Khalil Mack, Ben Heeney, Neiron Ball, Max Valles, Cory James
    CB: DJ Hayden, Keith McGill, TJ Carrie, Dexter McDonald
    S: Jonathan Dowling, Karl Joseph

    In Five years of drafts (2012-2015), that's four starters on D (giving Edwards the actual nod because Ward ought not have been getting many snaps had we had any depth at DT, and that showed the last two games); and six starters on O, being kind as Walford never really started when Lee Smith was healthy.

    Big hits in Mack, Carr, Jackson, maybes on Murray, Watson, Ellis, MEJ, Watson.

    Given the position he played was LB, our GM hasn't done too well there. Only Bilukidi and Ellis were DTs, everyone else a DE.
     
  13. DeadRinger

    DeadRinger Made from 100% Pure American Awesomeness

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    Dumb.... But typical.
     
  14. DeadRinger

    DeadRinger Made from 100% Pure American Awesomeness

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    Come on, man!

    You can't put Murray, Walford, Watson or maybe even Edwards in bold.

    Mark my words, Murray's gone this offseason. Walford can only get open on 5-yd routes, then his hands are suspect. Watson got slaughtered at LT in the postseason, and disappears at RT in regular season.

    Only true draft hits: Carr, Mack, Cooper, Jackson and (possibly) Joseph, MEJ. Those last 2 have questions marks tattoo'd on their foreheads still.

    I don't see Ellis doing enough on the inside to put him on that list. If you're standing beside Khalil Mack, you'd BETTER be disrupting something at some fuckin point. That's all I'm sayin'.
     
  15. Nobodyinparticular

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    Take a look at the money spent in Free Agency on both sides of the ball. Crabtree was originally a reclamation project on a prove-it deal. Penn the same. Howard was a shot in the dark after failing to sign Saffold. Osemele was a get.

    On the other side... Sean Smith. Bruce Irvin. Reggie Nelson. Reportedly went hard after Eric Weddle. Prior to last year... Justin Tuck. Charles Woodson. Dan Williams.

    Lots of cash has been thrown at the defensive side of the ball--theoretically to help this young DC bring in vets that fit his system.
     
  16. Diceq

    Diceq Tired of hatin...

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    This thread is gonna live a long time...
     
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  17. MostWanted650

    MostWanted650 If you stop struggling, then you stop life

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  18. godeep811

    godeep811 It's time to win again

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    Jimmy Durkin retweeted

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    Charles Woodson ‏@cwoodson24
    Hate to see Marcus Robertson let go. Learned a lot from you bro, someone will gain a great coach #GoRaiders
     
  19. RF34

    RF34 Habitual Line Stepper

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    Jack's starting QB's in Jacksonville:
    Leftwich- 2003-2005
    Garrard- 2005-2010
    Gabbert- 2011

    Jack's starting QB in Oakland:
    Carr- 2015- ?

    Here are some of those coaches:
    Dave Campo- Secondary
    Dirk Koetter- Offensive Coordinator
    Anthony Lynn- Running Backs
    Bill Musgrave- Offensive Coordinator
    Mike Smith- Defensive Coordinator
    Mike Tice- Offensive Line, Assistant Head Coach/Offense, Assistant Head Coach/Tight Ends
    Mel Tucker- Offensive Coordinator, Defensive Coordinator, Defensive Coordinator/Interim Head Coach
    Gregg Williams- Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator
     
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    $10 says Robertson wears an ascot...