Fire Norton!

Discussion in 'Raiders Discussion' started by Madturk, Oct 16, 2016.

  1. Dummy McIdiot

    Dummy McIdiot I haven't a clue.

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    Go ahead and rip the controller from Bones.
     
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  2. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    I approve of this message.
     
  3. Sleet

    Sleet #2017: Get 'er done Red

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    JDR/Norton's D reportedly gave up an NFL leading 61 pass plays of 20+ yards. :eek:

    That is gross, especially with Mack and Irvin on the edge.
     
  4. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    Nothing wrong with that? Fire the OC.
     
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  5. godeep811

    godeep811 It's time to win again

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    JDR won't fire the defensive coordinator since I think he feels he owns responsibility for it too. I don't think he can look at Norton and release him, knowing he was actively involved in the defens
     
  6. Sleet

    Sleet #2017: Get 'er done Red

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    Apparently the DB coach (who was a hold over from Allen's staff) is going to take the fall. Wonder if Woodson moves on too.
     
  7. hawaiianboy

    hawaiianboy Unfuckupable

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    Should I start up another Wade Phillips jihad? Or just rest on all my previous failed attempts?
     
  8. Raider Outlaw

    Raider Outlaw Well-Known Member

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    Told you this was his m.o. in JAX. He didn't get along with Musgrave there, so I was surprised he brought him in. Also, I don't think this was a firing as much as it was that Musgrave believe it or not has options and definitely has lots of them now that he just finished working with Carr. The 2 times he's worked closely with competent QBs, him and Matt Ryan, he got a lot of accolades for his work. He'll land quickly somewhere else working with another QB people think has talent and make more money. Also, I'm not crying over this one way or the other because you all know how I feel about the whole staff. I think Carr has benefited from being groomed, but he's also overcoming some incompetence. This is not the ideal staff we're going to win it all with more than likely unless we catch lightning in a bottle (why I was so bummed by how this year ended since we looked like we had caught it this year), so sooner that comes to a head, the better if the core players are still young.
     
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  9. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    It's not going to do any good.

    Why? The HC thinks Norton is doing a good job (allegedly). :(
     
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  10. Raider Outlaw

    Raider Outlaw Well-Known Member

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    Yep, and he doesn't believe in coaching defense the same way as Wade. It's like a WCO coach hiring an Air Coryell guy and one that he's not friends with to boot. It's why his mentor Fox got beamed in Denver. He would have rather part ways with the organization rather than bring in a coach with a superior defensive mind and way of coaching it for his personnel. Can't believe JDR is too much different. As a matter of fact, I'd guarantee he's worse. We'd be looking at guys like Bradley as best case scenario. Wade doesn't fit for JDR's philosophy.
     
  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive Well-Known Member

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    Nortorn is just fine he is still learning. You all knew he wasnt some mad genius dc. He hasnt been a dc in the league for over 10 years give him time and he will get it together.

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  12. phxraida15

    phxraida15 Well-Known Member

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    Shut your whore mouth
     
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  13. Xplosive

    Xplosive Well-Known Member

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    :bugeye::rotf:

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  14. Sleet

    Sleet #2017: Get 'er done Red

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    Ugh
     
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  15. Sleet

    Sleet #2017: Get 'er done Red

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    At least lobby for a special assistant/mentor to sit in the booth and help game plan and call plays and make in-game adjustments.
     
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  16. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    X, we're trying to win a Super Bowl here.

    We don't need OTJ training for our coordinators.

    Norton is garbage. He's trying to put Pete Carroll's system in place here and we don't have those kinds of players. What we need is a DC who can adjust and come up with alternative schemes that better fit our personnel.
     
  17. Xplosive

    Xplosive Well-Known Member

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    I know i know but the players love him and most believe in him. So just hope it gets better. I know it will be better

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  18. Xplosive

    Xplosive Well-Known Member

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    Players love and respect norton. He will be better

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  19. Xplosive

    Xplosive Well-Known Member

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    The coaching staff will do everything to make better decisions and in game adjustments going foward the goal is to win it all

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  20. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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