Draft Grade?

007 said:
Time will tell. Nobody has played a game yet.

Draft grades an hour after are dumb but its fun and silly anyways who cares.
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I think it’s a fun exercise to do. And it winds up being a different sort of grade. You’re grading where player X was taken and if player X was a need as much as is player X any good.

You can kinda keep a running grade going, as some players pop right away (hello Jacobs) and others take some time to see the field (Johnson/Crosby).

Just keep scoring it.

I’d have last years class lower than I did after the draft. Unfortunately. But, it could improve. Hope it does.
 
B-

I'm not enthralled with any of the picks, even though I do like all the players we selected. I guess that's all you could ask for in the NFL draft. The two players I think I may like the most may be the most controversial picks. Ferrell and Abram I think they will be good solid players for years to come. Maybe not the flashiest of players but the guys that you build your defense around mentality wise.
 
We didn't take anyone I disliked - but we passed on players I liked "more" at a number of spots. We got better. Now it's time for that second wave of FA to see if we can upgrade a position or two.
 
Armyr8rfan said:
I think it’s a fun exercise to do. And it winds up being a different sort of grade. You’re grading where player X was taken and if player X was a need as much as is player X any good.

You can kinda keep a running grade going, as some players pop right away (hello Jacobs) and others take some time to see the field (Johnson/Crosby).

Just keep scoring it.

I’d have last years class lower than I did after the draft. Unfortunately. But, it could improve. Hope it does.
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If you compare this draft to our prior drafts, clear improvement. Only 2014 is better. I loved Day 3, even though SPARQ players typically remain what they were prior to the draft. For that, a B. (If we hit on our reaches and SPARQs, we can achieve A status, if we don’t we could plummet).

If you look at ROI, C-. Until shown otherwise, I don’t trust even Mayock to outsmart the room.
 
C+

As much as I like Jacobs, I wish we would have double dipped with Sweat #24. Who knows maybe Jacobs could have been had at #27 still. I'd be feeling a whole a lot better about this defense. Hopefully a couple of these DBs we took actually pan out for once.
 
I agree with this....

AFC West
OAKLAND RAIDERS
Round 1 (4): Edge Clelin Ferrell, Clemson

Round 1 (24): RB Josh Jacobs, Alabama

Round 1 (27): S Johnathan Abram, Mississippi State

Round 2 (40): CB Trayvon Mullen, Clemson

Round 4 (106): Edge Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan

Round 4 (129): CB Isaiah Johnson, Houston

Round 4 (137): TE Foster Moreau, LSU

Round 5 (149): WR Hunter Renfrow, Clemson

Round 7 (230): Edge Quinton Bell, Prairie View A&M

Day 1:

Arizona must have had Pro Football Focus’ 2019 NFL Draft Guide in hand for Days 1 & 2 of the 2019 NFL Draft; Oakland’s brass must have lost it. The Raiders drafted high-character, quality football players with each of their first four picks in the 2019 NFL Draft, but they drafted each of them a handful of picks before we at PFF would have selected them.

Starting on Day 1, Mike Mayock, Jon Gruden & Co. selected Clemson Edge Clelin Ferrell, ‘Bama running back Josh Jacobs and Mississippi State safety Johnathan Abram with picks Nos. 4, 24 and 27. None of the three players received first-round grades from PFF.

“[Ferrell] lacks explosion… I didn’t see high-end reps. You didn’t see the dominant type of games… I can’t believe it. I cannot believe this was the pick.” – Pro Football Focus’ Lead Draft Analyst Mike Renner

“Even when a running back, a Saquon Barkley, does a tremendous job, as he did last year, it’s just hard to move the needle because of what the running back position does.” – Pro Football Focus’ George Chahrouri

“He’s great in run-and-hit situations. He plays like his hair’s on fire… He’s bringing attitude to your defense. In terms of coverage ability, he gives you the least valuable thing a safety can bring to the table, and that’s box-underneath-zone ability.” – Pro Football Focus’ Lead Draft Analyst Mike Renner

Day 2:

Much of the same continued for Oakland on Day 2, as the team selected PFF’s No. 160 overall player in former Clemson cornerback Trayvon Mullen. Though extremely tall and long, Mullen earned just a 73.5 coverage grade a year ago and failed to earn coverage grades above 80.0 in any of the two years prior.

Day 3:

Oakland found PFF’s 2019 NFL Draft Guide on Day 3 and was quick to use it with their first selection on Day 3.

Former Eastern Michigan edge defender Maxx Crosby, a favorite of Mike Renner’s, is a freakish athlete with quality production and grading, to boot. He has some of the best bend of any edge rusher in this class. He earned grades of 88.2 and 90.6 the past two seasons. He earned the No. 72 overall spot on PFF’s final big board.

LSU tight end Foster Moreau and Clemson’s Hunter Renfrow offer some upside as Day 3 picks, as well. Moreau finished the 2018 season ranked 12th among draft-eligible FBS tight ends in overall grade (76.5) and 10th in receiving grade (82.1). He caught 22-of-27 targets for 272 yards, 12 first downs and two touchdowns while dropping just one pass on the season. He may not look the part, but Renfrow is a crafty slot receiver that can add immediate value to an NFL offense in 2019. He earned a 75.1 receiving grade when lined up in the slot in 2018, ranking 16th among draft-eligible wideouts with at least 200 routes run from the slot.

DRAFT GRADE: BELOW AVERAGE
 
Yeah people get insulted but it looks like a C or so on paper early to me.

I figured we would have more to show after the first 2 days but its up to these young guns to prove me wrong.
 
Senior bowl guys that we got

Doss, coney, ingold, renfrow, johnson, moreau, abram.

Add that to college champ guys and only mad maxx wasnt in either
 
system7 said:
C+

As much as I like Jacobs, I wish we would have double dipped with Sweat #24. Who knows maybe Jacobs could have been had at #27 still. I'd be feeling a whole a lot better about this defense. Hopefully a couple of these DBs we took actually pan out for once.
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I think in hindsight that’s the one move they might regret. Jacobs probably there at 27.
 
godeep811 said:
I agree with this....

AFC West
OAKLAND RAIDERS
Round 1 (4): Edge Clelin Ferrell, Clemson

Round 1 (24): RB Josh Jacobs, Alabama

Round 1 (27): S Johnathan Abram, Mississippi State

Round 2 (40): CB Trayvon Mullen, Clemson

Round 4 (106): Edge Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan

Round 4 (129): CB Isaiah Johnson, Houston

Round 4 (137): TE Foster Moreau, LSU

Round 5 (149): WR Hunter Renfrow, Clemson

Round 7 (230): Edge Quinton Bell, Prairie View A&M

Day 1:

Arizona must have had Pro Football Focus’ 2019 NFL Draft Guide in hand for Days 1 & 2 of the 2019 NFL Draft; Oakland’s brass must have lost it. The Raiders drafted high-character, quality football players with each of their first four picks in the 2019 NFL Draft, but they drafted each of them a handful of picks before we at PFF would have selected them.

Starting on Day 1, Mike Mayock, Jon Gruden & Co. selected Clemson Edge Clelin Ferrell, ‘Bama running back Josh Jacobs and Mississippi State safety Johnathan Abram with picks Nos. 4, 24 and 27. None of the three players received first-round grades from PFF.

“[Ferrell] lacks explosion… I didn’t see high-end reps. You didn’t see the dominant type of games… I can’t believe it. I cannot believe this was the pick.” – Pro Football Focus’ Lead Draft Analyst Mike Renner

“Even when a running back, a Saquon Barkley, does a tremendous job, as he did last year, it’s just hard to move the needle because of what the running back position does.” – Pro Football Focus’ George Chahrouri

“He’s great in run-and-hit situations. He plays like his hair’s on fire… He’s bringing attitude to your defense. In terms of coverage ability, he gives you the least valuable thing a safety can bring to the table, and that’s box-underneath-zone ability.” – Pro Football Focus’ Lead Draft Analyst Mike Renner

Day 2:

Much of the same continued for Oakland on Day 2, as the team selected PFF’s No. 160 overall player in former Clemson cornerback Trayvon Mullen. Though extremely tall and long, Mullen earned just a 73.5 coverage grade a year ago and failed to earn coverage grades above 80.0 in any of the two years prior.

Day 3:

Oakland found PFF’s 2019 NFL Draft Guide on Day 3 and was quick to use it with their first selection on Day 3.

Former Eastern Michigan edge defender Maxx Crosby, a favorite of Mike Renner’s, is a freakish athlete with quality production and grading, to boot. He has some of the best bend of any edge rusher in this class. He earned grades of 88.2 and 90.6 the past two seasons. He earned the No. 72 overall spot on PFF’s final big board.

LSU tight end Foster Moreau and Clemson’s Hunter Renfrow offer some upside as Day 3 picks, as well. Moreau finished the 2018 season ranked 12th among draft-eligible FBS tight ends in overall grade (76.5) and 10th in receiving grade (82.1). He caught 22-of-27 targets for 272 yards, 12 first downs and two touchdowns while dropping just one pass on the season. He may not look the part, but Renfrow is a crafty slot receiver that can add immediate value to an NFL offense in 2019. He earned a 75.1 receiving grade when lined up in the slot in 2018, ranking 16th among draft-eligible wideouts with at least 200 routes run from the slot.

DRAFT GRADE: BELOW AVERAGE
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PFF has had its share of successes in its relatively short tenure. Guess we’ll see if their grading approach outperforms what Mayock sees on tape, in the person and in terms of scheme fit.
 
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Langlier said:
Senior bowl guys that we got

Doss, coney, ingold, renfrow, johnson, moreau, abram.

Add that to college champ guys and only mad maxx wasnt in either
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Most of those Senior Bowl guys played on the South team that we did not coach (BTW).
 
Armyr8rfan said:
I think in hindsight that’s the one move they might regret. Jacobs probably there at 27.
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Perhaps. I still believe the risk was equivalent and, if we lost Jacobs, Gruden would have been apoplectic and Mayock would not have slept in regret. Losing Sweat the regret is different, not trading up for him and taking both back-to-back.
 
Day 1 was horrendous!


QB?
Most important position on the field, and Oakland still has trash.
9 picks and you didn't even select a youngster to develop?
ugghh...


4th pick?
Ferrell was overdrafted.
At #4 overall you need to get yourself a real difference-maker.
I think Ferrell may end up being a very good player, but not an impact guy.
It was a bit of a reach, imo.


RB in round 1?
Well, he better be special.
Tubby?
Nope.
I don't think so.
We'll pull this post later.


Abram is a dice roll.
He is out of control too often and he just doesn't strike me as a good fit for this era of football.
He'll probably give himself a concussion in the preseason and miss the first 1/4 of the year.


I lost interest and faith after day 1.

Whatever...



Grade: D
 
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