Derek Carr's "Pocket Watch"

Who is to blame for the short Pocket Watch time?

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007 said:
Downing putting Carr on blast today too.

We are all wrong though and it’s the rain, wind, defensive scheme, broken back and coaching fault Carr threw 4 yard passes to his first read all season long.
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Carr checked into that screen pass on 3 and 5, 3 yard pass that went no where lol.
 
Desert Rat said:
Ya, a propensity to throw the ball in goal line situations and an unwillingness to throw a hail mary to end the half for fear it will end in an interception so he takes the check down and pads his stats instead. He must feel that them stats validate him?
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Ya, I don't think he was padding stats. I do wonder if he has the strength to make that toss right now though. If he can't get it into the endzone because of his back, he may have made the right call.

Also the last thing you want to do as a QB is acknowledge that you're limited by an injury when it comes to arm strength. I don't neck necessarily believe that was the reason. I think he's just ultra conservative and thought the best odds were with the short dump off and hope something happens. Dumb call imo, but I don't think for a second he was trying to pad his stats.
 
007 said:
I saw it on rotoworld.

“Shots were called”
“Gameplan was the same as KC”

Shit like that.
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Ah, so it's no inside scoop like Mike Silver or anything.
 
alteredst8 said:
Ya, I don't think he was padding stats. I do wonder if he has the strength to make that toss right now though. If he can't get it into the endzone because of his back, he may have made the right call.

Also the last thing you want to do as a QB is acknowledge that you're limited by an injury when it comes to arm strength. I don't neck necessarily believe that was the reason. I think he's just ultra conservative and thought the best odds were with the short dump off and hope something happens. Dumb call imo, but I don't think for a second he was trying to pad his stats.
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He has always checked down to end the half in that situation. Its about time we called it for what it is.
 
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007 said:
I saw it on rotoworld.

“Shots were called”
“Gameplan was the same as KC”

Shit like that.
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I'd like to get the whole article for context.

If it's as written, dude is toast for coming out like that. Possibly going the Lance route on his way out the door.
 
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Read as little or as much into as you want to, there is still a huge disconnect between player and coach on this team.

Total train wreck. Feels familiar like a warm cup of hot cocoa hahaha.
 
Desert Rat said:
He has always checked down to end the half in that situation. Its about time we called it for what it is.
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Just asking for a friend... How many times has he been in that position? I dont think you can call it a trend or even make up a scenario where he's done it before. I'll look into it, but I don't recall him ever just dumping it off when he's close to Hail Marry range.

As a matter of fact, he's been damn good going into the half and getting points. I think you are just plain making stuff up now.
 
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alteredst8 said:
Just asking for a friend... How many times has he been in that position? I dont think you can call it a trend or even make up a scenario where he's done it before. I'll look into it, but I don't recall him ever just dumping it off when he's close to Hail Marry range.

As a matter of fact, he's been damn good going into the half and getting points. I think you are just plain making stuff up now.
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He has never threw a hale mary to end the half. He will check it down every time "take what the defense gives you".
 
My least favorite pass play is when its like 3rd down with 7 to go - and he throws 3 yards to a double covered receiver. :facepalm:
 
Desert Rat said:
He has never threw a hale mary to end the half. He will check it down every time "take what the defense gives you".
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Even if he's never thrown Hail Marry to end the half it certainly doesn't imply he will always check it down. Looking at his end of half opportunities ( Yes, I have too much time available) he's has had 2 realistic opportunities to throw a Hail Marry, to end the half. One of those opportunities was in 2015 against Tenn, we were up by 3 points at the end of the half. The other was against Buffalo this year in the rain, with a bad back.

He's had two more chances sort of but not really. In that blowout against the Rams a few years back he was at his own 48 with 12 seconds left. In that scenario you don't do a Hail Marry. If you take a sack you put the other team in FG range with time on the clock, or if it's incomplete and time is left they have their own chance.

Another chance was his 2nd ever game his rookie year but McFoot didn't get out of bounds and we ran out of time. We had 12 seconds left and were probably trying to get into FG range with his throw.

So I'm not exactly going to say he's always or is to chicken (conservative) to make that toss. You really have to be in a certain situation at the end of the half to make that call and throw. You have to be outside your kickers range but inside your QB's arm range. I found 2 such instances where it made sense to throw the Hail Marry.
 
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alteredst8 said:
Even if he's never thrown Hail Marry to end the half it certainly doesn't imply he will always check it down. Looking at his end of half opportunities ( Yes, I have too much time available) he's has had 2 realistic opportunities to throw a Hail Marry, to end the half. One of those opportunities was in 2015 against Tenn, we were up by 3 points at the end of the half. The other was against Buffalo this year in the rain, with a bad back.

He's had two more chances sort of but not really. In that blowout against the Rams a few years back he was at his own 48 with 12 seconds left. In that scenario you don't do a Hail Marry. If you take a sack you put the other team in FG range with time on the clock, or if it's incomplete and time is left they have their own chance.

Another chance was his 2nd ever game his rookie year but McFoot didn't get out of bounds and we ran out of time. We had 12 seconds left and were probably trying to get into FG range with his throw.

So I'm not exactly going to say he's always or is to chicken (conservative) to make that toss. You really have to be in a certain situation at the end of the half to make that call and throw. You have to be outside your kickers range but inside your QB's arm range. I found 2 such instances where it made sense to throw the Hail Marry.
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I will stand by my statements.
Stats are important to him and his fans and the dude won't pass up a chance to pad them.
Keep watching....
 
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Good I hope TD and Carr start fighting more. We need to dump this dude asap. If we win a enough games I fear this coaching staff will return.

And we will never have another 100 yard rusher haha
 
I still think the core issue is Downing...

SB Nation’s Geoff Schwartz — a former NFL offensive lineman — detailed the best and worst offensive line performances of the first half of the season. His biggest surprise was the LA Rams Oline. His biggest disappointment, as you might expect, is the Raiders.

It’s not because the line isn’t any good. The guys up front are killers. They are physical, they finish guys and want to work for the extra yards. I’m putting this on the offensive coordinator.

The Raiders brought in a new OC for the 2017 season: one who wants to run outside zone. The Raiders offensive line is built to run straight ahead, which it has done for years. It’s been a struggle at times trying to make the switch. The Raiders are averaging seven fewer rushing attempts each week and only 88 yards per game.

The seven fewer attempts could be a function of their record and being behind in games. Nevertheless, it’s not the same production for this offense. Last season, it had 19 runs of 20-plus yards; this season, only three. That’s scheme, production upfront and the lack of an explosive running back. It all goes together.

Schwartz accurately places to blame not squarely on the players, but rather the new scheme that doesn’t play to their strengths which made them so dominant last season.
 
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