Colin Kaepernick

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I feel you yeah, just saying if Marshawn keeps sitting it's going to be hard not to talk about.

I get it but its another distraction we don't really need yes? He seems to put himself over and above the team.
 
I get it but its another distraction we don't really need yes? He seems to put himself over and above the team.

I think he's always done that. We don't know if he was actually protesting yet or not... or if he just didn't feel like standing up.
 
You know what, I'm probably in the minority on this one but, if a group of our players chooses to sit. I think the whole team should sit. Owner, GM, Coaches and Players. The whole lot of them, One Nation. Choosing not stand for the National Anthem doesn't make you un-American. It's a visual representation of how a person, a group or a segment of the country may feel.

Football is the ultimate team sport, if we have that group sitting I personally hope we as a team follow suit. Truthfully Carr should be the one to make the first statement by sitting with his teammates . Giving a simple statement. "If my teammates are making a statement by sitting then I'm going to stand behind them by sitting with them."
I have no issue our team being at the forefront of the movement. Yes it could and would probably be a distraction but, football comes second to social issues.

Everyone will wear pink to show support and bring awareness to breast cancer. This issue is so much bigger. Sadly there is probably no cure at the end of the rainbow. Even still I believe in standing or kneeling together as a team will help bring more attention to the cause. If NFL players want to make a statement do it together and do it loudly.
 
I found myself defending Lynch to another Raiders fan yesterday. I personally don't care for the platform that Kaep and others have chosen to share their views, but in the end I respect their right to free speech and freedom of expression.

What I do disagree with is this notion that the NFL owners are colluding to blackball Kaep. We have page after page in this thread of discussing his quarterbacking ability (or lack thereof). However, there were plenty of other guys kneeling for the anthem last year. If Brandon Marshall of the Broncos was available, think he would be unemployed long? Would Lynch gather interest if we cut him tomorrow? Robert Quinn? I think so. We signed Jelani Jenkins... clearly Red/Mark/Del Taco weren't concerned about him kneeling last year.

There are more reasons for Kaepernick's unemployment than racism...Namely he stinks, and reportedly wants a significant contract, and right or wrong the media frenzy surrounding him is a distraction.
 
You know what, I'm probably in the minority on this one but, if a group of our players chooses to sit. I think the whole team should sit. Owner, GM, Coaches and Players. The whole lot of them, One Nation. Choosing not stand for the National Anthem doesn't make you un-American. It's a visual representation of how a person, a group or a segment of the country may feel.

Football is the ultimate team sport, if we have that group sitting I personally hope we as a team follow suit. Truthfully Carr should be the one to make the first statement by sitting with his teammates . Giving a simple statement. "If my teammates are making a statement by sitting then I'm going to stand behind them by sitting with them."
I have no issue our team being at the forefront of the movement. Yes it could and would probably be a distraction but, football comes second to social issues.

Everyone will wear pink to show support and bring awareness to breast cancer. This issue is so much bigger. Sadly there is probably no cure at the end of the rainbow. Even still I believe in standing or kneeling together as a team will help bring more attention to the cause. If NFL players want to make a statement do it together and do it loudly.
Wow. A town in the South voted and took down an historic statute of Robert E. Lee. Word went out--a call to arms--to rally at that town in response to this political move. And, . . . wait for it, . . . 200 hundred skin heads, Neo-Nazi's showed up.

200 hundred.

That's the number I heard reported for this long planned, organized response.

Perhaps the number is wrong, but that is what I heard.

If accurate, I'm guessing more anti-asshole protestors showed up to do battle. No one was there for a civil debate over the historical value of the Robert E. Lee statute. People were there to shout down another fringe group's opposing viewpoint, b/c it was not worthy of speech, these anti-protestors decided.

Then some murderer drove a car into a crowd.

Then it became a Trump issue.

I mean, really? A guy shot a Senator, and we were told there are "crazy" loons on both sides. But now, this guy's not a crazy loon, it's Trump's fault?

You want this on Game Day?

I don't. I want to watch football. Get enough of the political hypocrisy elsewhere.

If you do, I guess you'd be okay with Pro-Life football players taking a knee against the government funding of Plan Parrenthood, which targets lower income communities and makes a mint selling apportions? Women's health my ass. They don't do mamagrams at these offices. But they have been found selling fetal tissue and body parts, while their competitors that do provide mama-grams get far less government support.
 
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Read today that sports writers have traced Marshawn back to his Bills days and nobody can ever recall him sitting through the anthem at any stops along the way. If that's accurate, it isn't just "Marshawn doing his own thing" as he's never done it before.

Also, somebody mentioned that Kaepernick wasn't a credible guy to start kneeling for a cause. I disagree with that. This was a young guy who had played in a Super Bowl at the league's glam position. He was just about the perfect guy to take that stand. And, truly, had he come out and taken the 49ers deep into the playoffs, nobody would be questioning whether or not he was fit for the role. Unfortunately, his career success fell off so it became easy for people to write him off by assassinating his character. "He's a loser." "He's a distraction." "He's disrespectful." This isn't a new tactic. While it is now considered an honorable and courageous act by most, don't forget that Tommie Smith and John Carlos were similarly ostracized after the Olympics.

As a veteran, you hear frequently how people in military service "defend our freedoms." We are thanked for it, these days to the point of absurdity. Meanwhile, the same people thanking us for defending their rights are pissed at somebody for exercising THEIR rights? Oh, and on the subject of "rights" and the defense thereof.... protesters and litigators have done more to gain freedom in this country in my lifetime than any veteran. That's a fact.

Personally, I agree with the point that he was trying to raise awareness for. It isn't because "I'm one of the good ones" or because "I have black friends." I agree with his point because I believe in the Constitution. According to the Constitution, all American Citizens are guaranteed equal protection under the law. Until the words on that paper are reflected in reality, I will applaud people like Kap and people like Marshawn for having the courage to take a stand.
 
I get it but its another distraction we don't really need yes? He seems to put himself over and above the team.

Maybe not over and above so much as back and to the side.
 
Women's health my ass. They don't do mamagrams at these offices. But they have been found selling fetal tissue and body parts.

Question is...do you know you're lying and doing it trying to make a point, or do you really believe the bullshit you just said?

I'm not going to bother engaging. You're never not a lawyer, thus never concerned with facts or accuracy. I just want to know which it is. I'm curious.
 
Wow. A town in the South voted and took down an historic statute of Robert E. Lee. Word went out--a call to arms--to rally at that town in response to this political move. And, . . . wait for it, . . . 200 hundred skin heads, Neo-Nazi's showed up.

200 hundred.

That's the number I heard reported for this long planned, organized response.

Perhaps the number is wrong, but that is what I heard.

If accurate, I'm guessing more anti-asshole protestors showed up to do battle. No one was there for a civil debate over the historical value of the Robert E. Lee statute. People were there to shout down another fringe group's opposing viewpoint, b/c it was not worthy of speech, these anti-protestors decided.

Then some murderer drove a car into a crowd.

Then it became a Trump issue.

I mean, really? A guy shot a Senator, and we were told there are "crazy" loons on both sides. But now, this guy's not a crazy loon, it's Trump's fault?

You want this on Game Day?

I don't. I want to watch football. Get enough of the political hypocrisy elsewhere.

If you do, I guess you'd be okay with Pro-Life football players should start taking a knee against the government funding of Plan Parrenthood, which targets lower income communities and makes a mint selling apportions? Women's health my ass. They don't do mamagrams at these offices. But they have been found selling fetal tissue and body parts.

and this is why politics is banned here... because now I don't like you. :boxing:
 
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