Clelin Ferrell is a bust

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  1. Byron2112

    Byron2112 4.65...

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    Jeffery Simmons had 4 tackles, 2 TFL and a sack today

    guy was supposed to miss the entire season from a blown up knee..
     
  2. Nobodyinparticular

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    @Sleet :cool:
     
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  3. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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  4. Abelardo

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    Clelin Ferrell’s PFF rank is 47.4 He might be a pro for several years, but I don't think he will live up to the expectations the Raiders management had. I also hope he will be a late bloomer, like Armyr8rfan says, but those cases are not common. We've had too many busts. They are named starters for a season or maybe two and then fade away.
     
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  5. 1D4

    1D4 Not Today...

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    Absolutely if he was a 3rd rounder I'd be ok but he was a terrible pick
     
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  6. Abelardo

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    D line stats in GB solo-assist
    Hankins 4-0
    Mauro 0-1
    PJ Hall 1-1
    Maxx Crosby 1-0
    Ferrell 0-0
     
  7. Turo

    Turo REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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  8. Bunyan

    Bunyan Don't Tread on Me

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    Time for the Mayock sucks thread? :rotf:
    Just kidding. I like Mayock and think he had a good draft. How many years did they give Reggie?
     
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  9. Nobodyinparticular

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    Is it possible that Guenther said "Don't you fucking give me someone who is not 6-5 and 265+ lbs"?
     
  10. Desert Rat

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    I'm going to to give Mayock all the credit if it turns out good and all the blame if it doesn't. He's the GM.
     
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  11. 007

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    The class as a whole looks good if you do some jigger-rigging around.

    I am on record saying I did not like Mayocks first draft much overall but am happy to be proven wrong.

    Ferrell just looks like a fucking JAG though. I don't know what his deal is. I actually got mad seeing Crosby come in and look like 10 times the player today haha.

    Mullen and Abrams? Meh who fucking knows. Fuck a bunch of DBs.
     
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  12. Raider Outlaw

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    Then we could cut him in training camp next year. At the position we took him, we at least have to do the dance until we don't pick up his fifth-year option.
     
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  13. Desert Rat

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    They had the opportunity to fix the pass rush which I thought was the biggest need on the team and it was obvious that they didn't get it done. That was a lot of draft capitol they had.
     
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  14. Armyr8rfan

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    What’s Joyner’s grade?
     
  15. Raider Outlaw

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    Don't worry. We'll overcorrect and reach for somebody next year.
     
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  16. 007

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    0.0
     
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  17. gst8

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    Brentson Buckner is a bust.

    Seriously, fuck that guy. Top 4 pick, a 2nd rounder, and a guy that would have been a 1st/2nd if not for his medicals and nada.
     
  18. 007

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    Well I didnt watch that Hard Knocks show where everyone said he was an amazing coaching personality.

    But I can judge Buckner based on the product on the field and so far I aint impressed.
     
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  19. godeep811

    godeep811 The Judge is Ready!

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    Totally agree. Right now, it looks like Raiders hit on Jacobs, Crosby and Moreau. Ingold counts a great FA pickup.

    Abrams is TBD. Dude looked fast and physical in the first game. But who knows?
    The DBs are entirely TBD.

    Ferrell is a bust in my mind until proven otherwise. I'm upset about it since those picks are so rare. You have to hit on them. In addition, I'm upset since any one of us here could see Ferrell being stiff. It's not like he had great production and great measurables. Vast majority of scouting community saw this as a reach and he's on that trajectory.

    You liked Burns. Kudos to you. He's doing well.
     
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  20. godeep811

    godeep811 The Judge is Ready!

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    Scout last fall...

    Clelin Ferrell, DE Clemson
    Most Clemson defensive ends are overrated, and I think Ferrell is too. I like him because he plays hard, but he is not anywhere near a top-10 pick. I don’t think he is a first-round player, because those Clemson defensive ends bust all the time. [Bills defensive end] Shaq Lawson went 19th overall, and he’s been a complete bust. Ferrell is a similar player, similar athlete, but he plays harder. I gave Shaq Lawson a fourth round grade, Ferrell is a little better than him. But from the sheer tools, they are very similar. There are certain schools where positions have a high bust rate and all Clemson defensive ends are productive, they get a ton of unblocked production in that scheme no matter who they line up there. I like Clellin a lot more than some of those guys and I think he is going to be a good solid pro, but you don't draft a good solid pro in the top 10.”
     
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