Anyone seen Richie?

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  1. Diceq

    Diceq Tired of hatin...

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    CNN) -- The Miami Dolphins have suspended Pro Bowler Richie Incognito after allegations of misconduct lodged by linemate Jonathan Martin, who left the NFL team last week in the middle of the season.
    Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin told reporters Monday he made the decision the previous night to suspend Incognito "based on the information that I had at that time." He didn't give a reason for the move.
    ESPN, NFL.com and other media outlets reported that representatives for Martin submitted voicemails containing racial slurs and threats of physical violence to the league and the Dolphins. One of the messages, from April, contained a reference to Martin's biracial background, according to ESPN's sources.
    "Hey, wassup, you half (expletive) piece of (expletive). "I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. I'll (expletive) in your (expletive) mouth. I'm gonna slap your (expletive) mouth, I'm gonna slap your real mother across the face (laughter). (Expletive) you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."
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    The team said Sunday in a statement that Incognito, a nine-year veteran at offensive guard, was suspended for detrimental conduct.
    "We believe in maintaining a culture of respect for one another and as a result we believe this decision is in the best interest of the organization at this time," the team said in a statement on its website.
    The Miami Herald reported that a Dolphins official said Incognito is "done" with the team. A Dolphins spokesman had no comment.
    Cafeteria incident sparked departure
    Last week, the Dolphins announced Martin had taken "a leave of absence."
    Philbin said Martin left the team after an incident at the team's cafeteria. Jay Glazer, an NFL analyst for FoxSports.com, reported that some of his teammates got up from a lunch table as a joke when Martin sat down. The lineman threw his food tray hard to the ground, he reported. Glazer later tweeted the incident was a final straw for Martin.
    The coach said representatives for Martin contacted the team Sunday with their concerns. The Dolphins spent Sunday gathering information, after which he suspended Incognito, Philbin said.
    Several media outlets said Martin had left the Dolphins because of bullying, something Incognito denied on Twitter.
    "Shame on you for attaching my name to false speculation," one of the tweets said, according to Bleacher Report. That tweet and others addressed to various media outlets were deleted later.
    A post from Sunday remained a day later: "Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth -- Buddha."
    Philbin said he met with Martin and also talked with members of his family before Sunday, and the second-year player didn't say anything about player misconduct.
    CNN reached out multiple times to representatives for each player but hasn't received comment.
    'Teddy bear off the field'
    Chris Draft played with Incognito when both were with the St. Louis Rams in 2007 and 2008. Incognito's onfield aggressive persona was nothing like his personality away from the playing field, Draft said.
    "He was really kind of a big teddy bear off the field. My wife actually loved him," he told CNN.
    The Sporting News takes a yearly poll of NFL players, and in 2009 they dubbed Incognito the dirtiest player in the league.
    The Rams released Incognito in December 2009 after an argument during a game with then-head coach Steve Spagnuolo. He played with the Buffalo Bills for three games before joining the Dolphins.
    Incognito, who played in the Pro Bowl all-star game in January, appeared to have calmed down on the field, according to a profile on NFL.com. Incognito pointed to meditation as a positive tool he used.
    The NFL will review the case, league spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday.
    "I will tell you that if the review shows that this is not a safe atmosphere I will take whatever measures are necessary to assure that it is," Philbin said. "I have that obligation to the players that I coach on a daily basis."
    The NFL Players Association has said the union has not started an investigation.
    NFL's pecking order
    Rookie Will Davis said he hasn't experienced any acts of bullying or hazing.
    "I think a lot of people think of hazing as being cruel, but I don't see anything like that in this locker room," he said. "But it depends on how you take hazing. I've always thought the guys in here were great."
    He said everyone on the team loves Incognito.
    "I was shocked," he said.
    Wide receiver Mike Wallace said there was a lot of respect for both players.
    "I know both of those guys personally," he said. "I feel like they are both good guys."
    Former Dolphins linebacker Channing Crowder told "Piers Morgan Live" that a locker room is often a place where players are trying to establish a pecking order.
    People cannot compare it to working at a regular job, he said, because we are talking about physically aggressive men with big egos competing and trying to prove their manhood.
    NFL players are "a bunch of testosterone-filled alpha males who are trying to find their place on the totem pole," he told CNN.
    He said when Incognito joined the team, he would test people to see where he stood with them.
    "He is a guy that needs to know his place with you," Crowder said.
    Incognito also apparently liked to play pranks. In a segment shown on a HBO series that follows one NFL team during each preseason, Incognito figured out a teammate's iPad password. He then teased the player about a status update he made for the player and joked about the player's fiancee.
    "Hard Knocks" has given audiences a look inside team dynamics, sometimes giving viewers a glimpse at life for rookies. And inevitably some of the younger players get hazed.
    Hazing on the decline?
    Still, former Dolphins running back Ricky Williams said it occurs less frequently in the NFL than most people think.
    "Really I haven't see much hazing," he said in an interview on "The Lead with Jake Tapper."
    He said its a well-known "rite of passage" for a high draft pick to pick up a big dinner bill for some other players on the team.
    "Once you sign that contract there's a lot of rules, written and unwritten, that you are expected to follow," he said. "For me, this is something that should be handled internally. I don't think the media, I don't think fans, I don't think anyone outside is really in a position to really fully understand what occurs inside of a locker room and inside of a football team."
    CNN Sports' Quand Thomas contributed to this report.
     
  2. Diceq

    Diceq Tired of hatin...

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    The saga involving Jonathan Martin and the reported bullying in the Miami Dolphins' locker room took another interesting twist on Sunday, as one of the players implicated in the reports—offensive lineman Richie Incognito—took to Twitter to refute the claims.
    UPDATE: Sunday, Nov. 4, at 11:25 p.m. ET
    Jeff Darlington of NFL.com reports that Incognito has been suspended indefinitely:
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    Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter of ESPN reported on Sunday that the NFL Players Association was not yet formally investigating Incognito in his possible role in any bullying, but reported that "sources tell ESPN that the matter is absolutely under review and preliminarily identifies Incognito as an alleged offender in multiple incidents of possible harassment and bullying over the past two seasons, with Martin not the only victim."
    Incognito responded via Twitter:
    One detail mentioned in the ESPN report is that Martin was required to contribute $15,000 for a trip to Las Vegas that he ultimately didn't even attend, doing so because he feared "the consequences if he did not hand over the money."
    This type of issue seems to be systemic in the Miami locker room. Adam Beasley of the Miami Herald reported the following:
    Beasley then retweeted the following posts from Dolphins defensive lineman Jared Odrick:
    While rookie hazing is nothing new in the NFL, these types of reports suggest it may be dramatically out of hand in Miami. And more interestingly, it appears the Martin case is not an isolated incident and he may be going out on a limb to be a whistle blower in this case.
    It would appear quite a lot is left to be uncovered in this case, though the process might be expedited if Martin directly implicated players. Doing so may alienate him if he does return to the team this season, however.
    The Dolphins released the following statement in lieu of the claims being bandied about, via Tom Pelissero of USA Today:
    The Miami Dolphins, including Coach Joe Philbin and Jonathan's teammates, have been in communication with Jonathan and his family since his departure from the club and continue to be in contact," the statement said.
    Our primary concern for Jonathan is his overall health and well-being. As an organization, we take any accusations of player misconduct seriously.
    The notion of bullying is based on speculation and has not been presented to us as a concern from Jonathan or anyone else internally. The reports that the NFLPA is investigating our players are inaccurate.
    Additionally, the NFL offered its assistance during this time, which we appreciated and gladly accepted. We will continue to make Jonathan's health and well-being a focus as we do with all of our players.
    Incognito certainly has a right to vehemently defend himself with the platform he has at his disposal, though remaining quiet while the incident is under investigation—or isn't under investigation, as currently appears to be the case—might have been the prudent approach.
    Should he—along with his older veteran teammates—ultimately be found responsible for bullying and forcing younger players to provide lavish amounts of money for dinners and trips, beyond the norm, his tweets on Sunday are going to look very, very bad.
     
  3. Diceq

    Diceq Tired of hatin...

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    College career
    In 2001, he redshirted at Nebraska.[4] In 2002, he became the first Husker freshman offensive lineman to start in the season opener and just the third rookie lineman to earn any start in his first year of competition. He played in all 14 games, starting 13 at left tackle and posted the second-highest season pancake total in Husker history with 171.[5] He was named a First-team Freshman All-American by FWAA, The Sporting News, and Rivals.com as well as First-Team Freshman All-Big 12 (The Sporting News). He had his first disciplinary action, however, when he was ejected for fighting from the Huskers' game against Penn State and forced to sit out the first half of the Iowa State game the next week.[6]
    In the spring of 2003, he was suspended for unspecified reasons by head coach Frank Solich. He was reinstated by the start of the season and started 13 games at left tackle, for which he was rewarded with a First-team All-Big 12 selection by the Associated Press.[6]
    In February 2004, Incognito was involved in a fight at a party and was charged with three counts of assault. In June, he was found guilty on one of the misdemeanor assault charges and paid a $500 fine. Incognito was shifted to center during the 2004 preseason camp. He entered the season with high expectations, listed on a number of preseason lists as a top center and named to the watch list for the Rimington Trophy going to the best center in college football.[7] On September 1, however, he was suspended from the football team for repeated violations of team rules and withdrew from all classes at Nebraska within a few weeks.[8]
    In late September, he transferred to the University of Oregon, only to be dismissed from the team a week later. Head coach Mike Bellotti said Incognito failed to meet the conditions he'd agreed to meet before his arrival in Eugene. Bellotti didn't elaborate, but Incognito had been required to complete an anger-management course and adhere to a strict code of conduct.[9]
     
  4. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Watch Jimbo or Pete sign this ass.
     
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    Curly will give incognito an attitude adjustment.
    Curly Bomaye
     
  6. wyoraiders

    wyoraiders there is no joy in mudvi...err Oakland.

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    We could use this guy...just sayin.
     
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    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    We don't need him. Nix already gets bullied every Sunday. :shakehead:
     
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    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Dude looks like a fat Phillip Rivers.
     
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    Madturk Football Guru

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    Not to lessen what Incognito did but this Martin sounds like a bit of a puss
     
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    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Perhaps, but was he getting it done on the field? If so, does it matter if he was eating nails in the locker room? Or playing with his pink ponies? I'm guessing that coaches wanted to get more out of him by "toughening" him up, to help him "reach his potential." So they sicked the "enforcer" on him, who was more than happy to "haze" the shit out of this guy.
     
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    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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  14. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    #soy sauce
     
  15. hawaiianboy

    hawaiianboy Unfuckupable

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    Can't wait to see Herr Goodell's overreaction to this...

    He'll probably put in lockerroom attendants that monitor these guys...

    "That'll be $1000 in the swear jar there Wisznewski !"

    "You made a gay joke Woodson! That'll cost you 4 games!"
     
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    rabit Active Member

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    Looks like a job for Natty.
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    hawaiianboy Unfuckupable

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    Kinda like my penis size makes me an honorary porn star...
     
  18. Raider Nation

    Raider Nation Moral Compass

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    Midget porn doesn't count.
     
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  19. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    Nice
     
  20. hawaiianboy

    hawaiianboy Unfuckupable

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    Bahstads... I'm being bullied!