2023/24 General NFL News Thread

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Sleet said:
Because I don’t think Joe Alt is the BPA and worth a T5 pick. They could get a good OT trading down plus draft capital. I also think MHJ, Odunze and Nabers are special. I never thought any WR Telescope drafted was special. Allen was just great value. Williams was good but injuries negated any upside.
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One of the most special receivers of the last 20 years was on a 0-16 team. I wish he would go that route at the expense of their shitty lines and defense. I just know he's smarter than doing that with such a high pick unfortunately.
 
Raider Outlaw said:
One of the most special receivers of the last 20 years was on a 0-16 team. I wish he would go that route at the expense of their shitty lines and defense. I just know he's smarter than doing that with such a high pick unfortunately.
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I hope Harbaugh is too “smart” to trade down with Minn and pick Fuaga at #11 and have at least an extra 450 points (the equivalent of the #45 pick) to spend on a WR too. That’s exactly my hope.

Putting aside the trade down option, you appear fixated on a belief that drafting Joe Alt at #5 and a Day 2 WR would be better than drafting MHJ or Odunze (or Nabers) at #5 and a Day 2 OT. I don’t know LAC needs (but they already have a LT or are you replacing him?) or the Board well enough to know if the drop off in talent from WR1 or WR2 to a Day 2 WR is less, the same or greater than the drop off from OT1 to a Day 2 OT. But I don’t think Joe Alt is special, which remains the premise of this option, do you? At #5, I want a special player if not trading down.

As for Detroit, if you would draft Joe Alt instead of Megatron I can’t help you. You have a WR psychosis.
 
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RF34 said:
Welp...



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Arrest warrant issued for Chiefs WR Rashee Rice in multi-vehicle Dallas crash, sources say

Rice has admitted to driving the Lamborghini involved in the crash. He'll now have a day to turn himself into police, sources told WFAA.
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The DA is doing his job, which includes sending a public message at the outset. That’s not necessarily bad for Rice. It’s the punishment that the DA is going to pursue that matters. There is not going to be a trial. It’s going to get pled out. The charges are expected. Can’t tell if this is by the book so far, but it’s the plea and sentencing that matter.
 
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Raider Outlaw said:
One of the most special receivers of the last 20 years was on a 0-16 team. I wish he would go that route at the expense of their shitty lines and defense. I just know he's smarter than doing that with such a high pick unfortunately.
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Joe Thomas, one of the best LTs of the last 20 years was on a team that won 1 game in two seasons. That shit doesn't mean anything save for probably QBs.
 
Sleet said:
I hope Harbaugh is too “smart” to trade down with Minn and pick Fuaga at #11 and have at least an extra 450 points (the equivalent of the #45 pick) to spend on a WR too. That’s exactly my hope.

Putting aside the trade down option, you appear fixated on a belief that drafting Joe Alt at #5 and a Day 2 WR would be better than drafting MHJ or Odunze (or Nabers) at #5 and a Day 2 OT. I don’t know LAC needs (but they already have a LT or are you replacing him?) or the Board well enough to know if the drop off in talent from WR1 or WR2 to a Day 2 WR is less, the same or greater than the drop off from OT1 to a Day 2 OT. But I don’t think Joe Alt is special, which remains the premise of this option, do you? At #5, I want a special player if not trading down.

As for Detroit, if you would draft Joe Alt instead of Megatron I can’t help you. You have a WR psychosis.
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I'm not a fan of taking receivers that high when you have pressing needs like that. Like I said, let's hope they're that stupid, but seeing how he's built his teams and that the GM came from Baltimore, I doubt it.
 
Handicapper General said:
Joe Thomas, one of the best LTs of the last 20 years was on a team that won 1 game in two seasons. That shit doesn't mean anything save for probably QBs.
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Cleveland was a special kind of clusterfuck, an are you saying you're a Hue fan now? Joe Thomas also wasn't drafted a couple of years before they went 1-15 or whatever it was. He had been there almost ten years through several different regimes at that point. As a matter of fact, he retired before the 0-16 season. On the other hand, Megatron was drafted a year or two before they went 0-16. Apples and oranges.
 
Btw, I do think that he's going to trade down. I just don't think they're interested in taking a receiver that high from his philosophy on building a team. They're not even being shy about how they're building the team. Everyone in the organization has been stressing running the ball and playing defense.
 
Raider Outlaw said:
I'm not a fan of taking receivers that high when you have pressing needs like that. Like I said, let's hope they're that stupid, but seeing how he's built his teams and that the GM came from Baltimore, I doubt it.
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Does LAC have a pressing need at LT? Is Slater gonna get moved to OG by Jimbo? Are you drafting Alt to shift over to RT? With the #5 pick? I’m guessing Jimbo trades down and targets Fuaga, the guy I want if we don’t draft a QB.
 
Raider Outlaw said:
Cleveland was a special kind of clusterfuck, an are you saying you're a Hue fan now? Joe Thomas also wasn't drafted a couple of years before they went 1-15 or whatever it was. He had been there almost ten years through several different regimes at that point. As a matter of fact, he retired before the 0-16 season. On the other hand, Megatron was drafted a year or two before they went 0-16. Apples and oranges.
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I do have to point out though that Thomas played in 7 games that 0-16 year. All 16 in the 1-15 year. You can't tell me the Browns were more of a clusterfuck than the Lions were.

Spin it however you want, OL isn't more important than WR and your argument stunk.
 
Handicapper General said:
I do have to point out though that Thomas played in 7 games that 0-16 year. All 16 in the 1-15 year. You can't tell me the Browns were more of a clusterfuck than the Lions were.

Spin it however you want, OL isn't more important than WR and your argument stunk.
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They both were clusterfucks. Cleveland still didn't go 0-16 a couple years after drafting him, which the Lions did, and I don't say that they're more important. Most coaches forever and a day have had QB, pass rusher, corner, and LT as the premium positions on a team so go argue with them. you're just arguing to be arguing because all I said was I doubt Harbaugh is about to do the same failed shit that got our current GM and his flunky coaches fired even though I wish he would.
 
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Sleet said:
Does LAC have a pressing need at LT? Is Slater gonna get moved to OG by Jimbo? Are you drafting Alt to shift over to RT? With the #5 pick? I’m guessing Jimbo trades down and targets Fuaga, the guy I want if we don’t draft a QB.
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No, but their offensive line is shitty just like their defense, or maybe you were believing all of those articles saying they were Super Bowl contenders because you can't see that they weren't for yourself because of those two main problems.
 
As a matter of fact, Detroit was the fucking team that took receivers like five years in a row or some shit, lol. They got destroyed and went 0-16 because their defense and lines stunk, but yep, I'm the crazy one for bringing this up.
 
Raider Outlaw said:
No, but their offensive line is shitty just like their defense, or maybe you were believing all of those articles saying they were Super Bowl contenders because you can't see that they weren't for yourself because of those two main problems.
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Guess our disconnect is in application. Just don’t see (nor do I see how you see) overdrafting Alt at the expense of filling a gapping whole with possibly the best WR prospect since Megatron as the answer to issues you raise, which no one is disputing.
 
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Raider Outlaw said:
They both were clusterfucks. Cleveland still didn't go 0-16 a couple years after drafting him, which the Lions did, and I don't say that they're more important. Most coaches forever and a day have had QB, pass rusher, corner, and LT as the premium positions on a team so go argue with them. you're just arguing to be arguing because all I said was I doubt Harbaugh is about to do the same failed shit that got our current GM and his flunky coaches fired even though I wish he would.
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I'm arguing because you're doing your usual moving of the goal posts again and threw out an inaccuracy about Thomas along with your "well that's different" like you're a die hard Twitter user.

Your exact words were: "One of the most special receivers of the last 20 years was on a 0-16 team. I wish he would go that route at the expense of their shitty lines and defense. I just know he's smarter than doing that with such a high pick unfortunately."

Implying that you think he should draft OL or D instead of a WR citing a team that went 0-16 with a great WR. I countered with another team with a fairly comparable LT with the same result. Then you went on about this that and the other thing. Who cares when they went 0-16? If anything it's worse that a team with an established stalwart of that caliber went 0-16 (or 1-15) than early in the career. What difference does it make at all when the original thing was "I hope he drafts a WR instead of other stuff because they went 0-16 one year."

Your analogy was bad. You could just say you don't think WRs are as important - that's fine. Going WR over LT didn't really seem to hold the Bengals back, fwiw.
 
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