2020 Free Agent class + Legal Tampering

Discussion in 'Raiders Discussion' started by alteredst8, Jan 29, 2020.

  1. alteredst8

    alteredst8 Could of got it

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    Well it's once again time to look at a new crop of free agents.

    I heard something on a podcast the other day and I thought it was rather interesting. The person running the podcast called it, "is he worth it".

    Basically Spotrac puts a guesstimate dollar wise to what they believe X player is worth on the open market. They use production other players had in the 2 years leading up to FA and the dollars they recieved to help determine what these new guys will get.

    So with that being said.... Is he worth it?

    Jadeveon Clowney : 26 yrs old
    Market Value
    • 6 yrs, $120,340,914
    • Avg. Salary: $20,056,819
    • NFL Rank: 22
    • DE Rank: 3
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    I was going to do a poll....but I really don't want to just post a poll for every damn player I put up here. I figure I'll put 1 player up every day for us to argue for or against.
     
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  2. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Not worth it probably. I appreciate what he brings but we have to at least let Clelin try and be that guy.

    I'd rather spend the money elsewhere.
     
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  3. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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  4. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    The argument for Clowney is that he’s “disruptive”.

    I think you need more than that for $20 million.
     
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  5. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    No to Clowney.

    He's probably getting something near Mack money.
     
  6. Byron2112

    Byron2112 4.65...

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    He was always questionable for the Seahawks... week in and week out.

    had a couple of amazing performances, but he's not going to age like fine wine..
     
  7. Turo

    Turo Habitually Fat

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    For some reason it's surprising to me the guy is only 26.

    And no.. not worth 20M
     
  8. kinz

    kinz Well-Known Member

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    Most teams would swap their RT for Clowney.
     
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  9. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    All you hear about is how Clowney dominated the 49ers down in Santa Clara. Except the 49ers win that game if backup kicker hits a 42 yard FG. So he didn’t dominate that much, yo.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  10. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    How about Arik Armstead?

    Cheaper, possibly a better fit depending on Marinelli’s influence, could be the product of the players around him.

    Spotrac doesn’t give a projected market value but Leonard Williams at 5/$41m might be a good comp.
     
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  11. alteredst8

    alteredst8 Could of got it

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    His ability to stay on the field is a big question mark.

    He wore many hats in Houston so the sacks don't bother me as much.

    I think if he can stay healthy and play a more passrush defined role he's well worth the money and will produce at a high level.. given the state of our passrush over they years.... why the hell not... I prefer other options in FA and I will certainly address those guys next, but if Clowney is where we go so be it. The 5-6 year thing has to go though... maybe a 4 with some fancy way out after 3...
     
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  12. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    I think you also have to consider the unlikelihood of us spending that type of money on a non QB.
     
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  13. 007

    007 Commitment To Excrement

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    We were ready to pay AB that money and Trent Brown is due something like 20+ million next year.
     
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  14. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Fair point. I’ll still believe it when I see it though.
     
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  15. DonkeyKilla

    DonkeyKilla Well-Known Member

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    I'm not so sure he will be cheaper.
     
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  16. gst8

    gst8 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah not really sure what his market will be. But, aside from the risk of being a one year wonder, there are a few different options for teams to chose from that might keep his price tag down. Might get a deal high in funny money.
     
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  17. phxraida15

    phxraida15 Well-Known Member

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    At this point. We need LB’s and interior lineman more than we need a DE.
     
  18. Sleet

    Sleet #2018: Return of Gru

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    Sure hope Marinelli makes a difference. Getting better play from our existing DL would be huge.
     
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  19. DonkeyKilla

    DonkeyKilla Well-Known Member

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    all those guys are young and should continue to get better, but then again we have promising looking players fall off a cliff all the time...
     
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  20. raiderfreak7

    raiderfreak7 Well-Known Member

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    The guaranteed is a big difference too though. Brown got like $36M, Mack got $90M. Frank Clark got $60M+ guaranteed. Clowney is likely getting $80M+ guaranteed. Pass rushers get fucking paid. I just don't see us tossing that dough out to a pass rusher after not doing it with Mack.
     
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