2017 Off Season Thread

Discussion in 'Raiders Discussion' started by boknowsvt, Jan 7, 2017.

  1. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    Yah at least kick some tires. Not sure how Red feels about KNJ but next year is a critical year. Do we roll the dice again with KNJ and hope we aren't in the bottom third of the league in defense? Those last two losses to arguably two of the worst offensive teams in the NFL, were pretty telling IMO.
     
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  2. Madturk

    Madturk Football Guru

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    Someone mentioned that Jack and Mike Nolan were on the staff together in Baltimore. One thing we know about Jack, he's not afraid to shitcan guys.
     
  3. sportzfan76

    sportzfan76 Guru Wannabe

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    This team kinda reminds me of the Peyton led Colts. Good offensive team where the qb and receivers covered up a lot of other deficiencies. Once in the post season the defense was exposed especially against the run.
     
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  4. Shagsta

    Shagsta Well-Known Member

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    Woodhead hasnt been bad in san diego.
     
  5. godeep811

    godeep811 It's time to win again

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    David Amerson
    Cornerback David Amerson continued to show why the Washington Redskins parted ways with him in 2015. Saturday, Amerson received two penalties while allowing 4 catches for 89 yards. Aside from coverage, he also continues to whiff tackles and take bad angles in pursuit.

    After a strong season in 2015 — his first with the Raiders — Amerson regressed in 2016. His inconsistent play was one of several reasons why Oakland’s secondary was continuously burned.
     
  6. PDX Raider

    PDX Raider Well-Known Member

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    In looking at our FAs- there isn't a guy on that list that would be considered a loss if he left. Holmes should've played more than Roberts- and Carrie should've played more than Hayden, but that's it. Assuming a deal with Carr gets done, we're still in great shape with the salary cap- and all our FAs can be replaced with equal or better players- most of those guys are awful.

    Deep draft coming up at corner, DE and RB, and all three positions are likely on our radar. And in listening to JDR, he saw the same exact problems we did: tail off for Cooper, defensive lapses, and absolutely no push up the middle for our D-line. He didn't sugar coat those. My guess is he's sending feelers out for a new DC and if a better option emerges- Norton's gone.
     
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  7. godeep811

    godeep811 It's time to win again

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    How do the Raiders fix the middle of the defense?

    The Raiders have addressed most of their needs the past two seasons really well, and that earned them a spot in the playoffs. While they were dismantled by injury—mainly to QB Derek Carr—Carr’s absence showed that the team still isn’t quite at a Super Bowl-caliber level, especially on defense. The Raiders have superstar edge defender Khalil Mack, solid auxiliary pieces in OLB Bruce Irvin, LB Perry Riley, and DT Mario Edwards Jr., as well as a promising secondary, but they lack punch in the middle of their defense. Edwards is a 3-tech that can develop into an every-down player, but NT Dan Williams and DE Denico Autry took big steps back in 2016, while LB Malcolm Smith has never turned his Super Bowl MVP status into anything more.

    GM Reggie McKenzie tried addressing the weak middle by drafting DT Jihad Ward and ILB Cory James, but neither played at a replacement level. Ward struggled in run defense and when rushing the passer, as he was often out-leveraged, while James was inconsistent in making the leap from the Mountain West to the NFL. Luckily for Oakland, the 2017 draft class is considered very deep on the D-line, and the Raiders should be able to find impact players in the first three rounds. After a string of teams needing LBs, Oakland might opt to draft one later; a good target in the middle rounds is Florida’s Jarrad Davis, a tough linebacker that grades well against the run.
     
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  8. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    I'd agree with this.

    Some point out that a better pass rush will help all our corners and safeties. Still basic skills are required.

    So next season is the 'rubber year' for Amerson. Hope he can bounce back.
     
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  9. cruedi

    cruedi Well-Known Member

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    The other thing is I'm sure both Reggie and Taco will ask players like Mack and Irving how they feel about him, nobody wants to piss Mack off by shit canning his DC if likes him.
     
  10. Sleet

    Sleet #2017: Get 'er done Red

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    Agreed. The division's going to be a bitch next year. Here's hoping Denver fall a part. If they do sign Romo, that he lasts for a week.
     
  11. MostWanted650

    MostWanted650 If you stop struggling, then you stop life

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    lol...
     
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  12. RF34

    RF34 Habitual Line Stepper

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    Imagine that. A scathing article on a former Redskin by a Redskin beat writer....Here's the rub. Even with his lackluster performance, he's still better than any scrub the skins have....
     
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  13. TheMadStork

    TheMadStork Pastafarian

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    ftfy
     
  14. Sleet

    Sleet #2017: Get 'er done Red

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    :(
     
  15. alteredst8

    alteredst8 Well-Known Member

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    I would agree with that in the middle of the season. But players play, coaches coach. Norton if fired would be well earned and I wouldn't even think about asking the players. A very few well seasoned vets should have any input into the coaching staff. And I mean a few as in maybe 5-6 in the whole fucking league. Never want to see some NBA shit where players want X coach gone they don't like them so they get shit caned. IMO not one players opinion on our roster should we show concern with when we are picking our coaching staff. That was reserved for a studd and future HOF like Woodson.
     
  16. Madturk

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    FWIW I heard that KNJ being here influenced Irvings decision to come here. Obviously the money they offered didn't hurt either lol
     
  17. cruedi

    cruedi Well-Known Member

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    That's one of the biggest things about a coach that most people don't consider. No real coach would come here in Mark/Red's first 2 years, then we got a solid coach (I won't call him great) in JDR. Players and other coaches respect him and will come here because of that. I'd hate to kill that momentum we've got going.

    That said I wouldn't be upset if he's canned, I'd just like to know we've got a couple of solid DC's interested in coming here.
     
  18. boknowsvt

    boknowsvt A Noble Spirit Embiggens The Smallest Man

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    Dick Seymour was alright for us
     
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  19. CrossBones

    CrossBones The Black Pearl

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    Dark time my friend. Dark times.
     
  20. Dummy McIdiot

    Dummy McIdiot I repeal your reality and replace it with my own.

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    He sacked Rivers once and slapped Ben.
    :coffee:
     
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