The way too early Draft 2021 thread

007 said:
I always think of the first plane getting in the air in 1902.

It worked fine but now there are better ways to do the same thing...

40 times are a dinosaur
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GPS does dilute the importance of 40 times. But the combine will still have value, and not just for TV ratings and interviews. Agility drills are not as easy to measure with GPS. And comparing 40’s to GPS game day speed is, itself, informative. It says something about players who can translate 40 time to game day speed and visa-versa.
 
The only valuable piece from the combine is the medical.

Watching QB's bench press or lineman run a 40 yard sprint or WR's do a long jump in athletic shorts is fuckin stupid.

The smartest teams are already moving away from that shit anyways, thankfully.
 
007 said:
The only valuable piece from the combine is the medical.

Watching QB's bench press or lineman run a 40 yard sprint or WR's do a long jump in athletic shorts is fuckin stupid.

The smartest teams are already moving away from that shit anyways, thankfully.
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I want reliable, even-playing field, measurables. Need my SPARQ!
 
Prospects PFF does not like as much as others include:

DI DAVIYON NIXON, IOWA
PFF Big Board Rank: 66

If you turn on the right game, Nixon looks like a first-round talent. His outing against Northwestern this past season, when he racked up 10 defensive stops and three sacks, is a prime example. But if you turn on his tape against Minnesota, Illinois or Wisconsin (sub-60.0 grade in each), he seems like a sure-fire Day 3 pick.

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Iowa City, Iowa, USA; Iowa Hawkeyes defensive tackle Daviyon Nixon (54) tackles Wisconsin Badgers quarterback Graham Mertz (5) during the fourth quarter at Kinnick Stadium. Credit: Jeffrey Becker-USA TODAY Sports

Nixon finished the 2020 season with a subpar 73.1 PFF grade that failed to crack the top five in the Big Ten. He is quick, explosive and attacks viciously, but the inconsistency in his lone year of starting experience and how often he got stuck on blocks are too big of concerns.

T JALEN MAYFIELD, MICHIGAN
PFF Big Board Rank: 70

Mayfield is likely a tackle-to-guard convert at the next level. He'll be a project for whichever NFL team drafts him, but he is young (20 years old on draft day) and has a physical makeup that presents a lot of upside. That potential makes him a prospect worth taking a chance on during Day 2, but not in the first round.

Mayfield came to Michigan as a four-star recruit, according to 247Sports, back in 2018 and put together up-and-down performances. He was inconsistent throughout his only full season as a starter in 2019, flashing high-end reps but also constantly showing how unrefined he is technically.

In pass protection that year, he gave up 27 pressures en route to a 68.8 pass-blocking grade. As a run blocker, Mayfield flashed his power on several occasions, racking up the second-most big-time blocks among Power Five right tackles — behind only Jedrick Wills Jr. But Mayfield negated that with a negatively graded block rate that ranked in the 13th percentile at the position.

DI LEVI ONWUZURIKE, WASHINGTON
PFF Big Board Rank: 76

Our differences with Onwuzurike lie in his down-to-down consistency when he finally grabbed a starting job in 2019, the fact that we rarely saw him recover if his first move failed and how most of his dominant wins were a result of his explosiveness.

Onwuzurike shined in 2018 with a 90.8 PFF grade, but that was in a limited role while averaging roughly 28 snaps per game. In 2019, he rightfully grabbed a starting spot, increasing his average per-game snap count to approximately 39, but his production took a hit. His PFF grade dropped to 82.5.

When watching Onwuzurike at Washington, it was apparent that he was one of the most explosive players at the position in college football. If he went up against lesser interior offensive linemen — and he saw a lot of them — it was game over. That, however, didn’t fly against the one NFL-caliber offensive line he faced in 2019 (Oregon, 51.3 PFF grade), and it isn’t going to fly at the NFL level, either. It’s still a massive strength to have, but he needs more moves to pair with that.

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-10-prospects-pff-likes-less-than-other-scouts-media
 
007 said:
The only valuable piece from the combine is the medical.

Watching QB's bench press or lineman run a 40 yard sprint or WR's do a long jump in athletic shorts is fuckin stupid.

The smartest teams are already moving away from that shit anyways, thankfully.
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Medicals, interviews, and outliers. Fred Smoot only being able to shit out one rep of 225 was the sort of thing you want to know before drafting the guy.
 
007 said:
The only valuable piece from the combine is the medical.

Watching QB's bench press or lineman run a 40 yard sprint or WR's do a long jump in athletic shorts is fuckin stupid.

The smartest teams are already moving away from that shit anyways, thankfully.
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Ferrell opting out of drills that could expose him should have been valuable information, too. But...ya know.
 
Crow said:
Medicals, interviews, and outliers. Fred Smoot only being able to shit out one rep of 225 was the sort of thing you want to know before drafting the guy.
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That told us he never spent any time in the gym working. I bet the good staffs who reach out to the trainers and professors and teammates fine that out long before the combine.
 
007 said:
That told us he never spent any time in the gym working. I bet the good staffs who reach out to the trainers and professors and teammates fine that out long before the combine.
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I'd expect so. But seeing just how little upper body strength he had was telling. Some guys can avoid weights like @Sleet avoids an honest argument and still manage half a dozen reps. One rep? Oowee.
 
Crow said:
I'd expect so. But seeing just how little upper body strength he had was telling. Some guys can avoid weights like @Sleet avoids an honest argument and still manage half a dozen reps. One rep? Oowee.
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:hmph:
 
Sleet said:
While not too different in kind, at least your knocks are less frequent than when I joined BR.net.
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You were new. I bet @CrossBones three cigarettes you'd be the first newbie to cry.

You owe me three cigarettes, Andy. Fucker.
 
PFF floated the idea of the Raiders trading with the WFT for former 1st round pick Daron Payne, who is in the last year of his contract but with a 5th year option. If he did not resign he could bring back a comp pick. It would be an upgrade over Hankins and an alternative to Tomlinson. Not a bad idea.
 
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