Has the NFL passed Gruden by?

Vegas will change some things.


I don’t pretend to know what this means, but the old saying about how do you know when a guy is lying ..., his lips are moving would certainly seem to apply here. I said it last week, and I’ll say it again here ...., there is ZERO part of me that thinks Gruden is okay with what is happening with this team. I bet he is furious. But he also understands that Derek is a mentally weak pussy, and he can’t call him out publicly because Carr couldn’t handle that. What about Gruden’s past history would suggest he’ll continue to start a guy that can’t win at QB? How many QBs did he go through in Tampa? I think Carr is cooked, and we’ll see a change this offseason.
Preach.
 
Its a short list of shitty players IMO.

I laughed when Carr faked anger after hanging Washington out to dry on that -5 yard dump off.

Dude that was on you not him haha.
That was super shitty of Carr to do that to DW
 
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Stop Gruden talking about injuries and the tough travel schedule. No excuses.

We’re missing some of the players that helped us win those three straight games,” said Gruden. “The Golden State Warriors are going through a similar process. It’s no as easy to win when you’re not playing with your frontline guys. It works out for the development of some young players, but it’s on me. It’s my responsibility to fix it and it certainly doesn’t look good the last few weeks.”
 
Suck my dick Gruden.

Quit coddling this pussy.
All good.

He’s doing this because he doesn’t want to give the impression he’s doubting Carr’s abilities. If he’s thinking of trading Carr, he’s apt to get better value if he gives the impression he still values him. My take: I think Chucky’s over this guy..
 
Raiders D's asshole

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Avg 40 points a game? Lol.. it dont even fuckin matter whos at QB
 
All good.

He’s doing this because he doesn’t want to give the impression he’s doubting Carr’s abilities. If he’s thinking of trading Carr, he’s apt to get better value if he gives the impression he still values him. My take: I think Chucky’s over this guy..

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Jon Guden is a real NFL head coach, but certainly not in the upper tier.

Gruden was overrated in his first NFL go-'round, imo.

His Oakland teams were STACKED with talent and Rich Gannon was the real straw that stirred the drink.

Then when he went to Tampon and won the SB he did it with the team that Tony D. built, and he did it with one of the historically great defenses.

After that team eroded he really didn't accomplish much.

And right now he is struggling.


Jon was able to "be out there" in the public consciousness because he was a good talking head.
And he did a super job on TV with his QB Camp.

He is a good barker.

But how much bite does he really have?
 
This might be the worst Raiders defense Ive seen in 20 years.. and theres been some bad ones... Never thought it could get worse.. but it did.. Fuckin Chiefs somehow lose Peters, Berry, Houston and Dee Ford and held the Pats to 16 points

Wont fuckin matter who we draft or sign at QB.. If this team has to score 40+ points a game to win a game they'll be lucky to win a couple...

I'd say start Peterman but he's in some tub

Anybody got Walter Andrews #?

Bring him back and give him some steroids..
 
I think you can blame Gruden for worrying about David's fragile ego too much and not signing a legit backup to a mediocre starter and having a legit competition in camp.

Glennon Peterman and Kizer are trash.
 
I think you can blame Gruden for worrying about David's fragile ego too much and not signing a legit backup to a mediocre starter and having a legit competition in camp.

Glennon Peterman and Kizer are trash.

Fuck Carr, every position should be up for grabs in camp. Guy has been anointed starter since day 1 and hasn't looked back.
 
I view Gruden as part of the 2nd step in our 25-year rebuild plan.

Step 1 - Gut the place, get the cap in order, get a steam room. - Check.
Step 2 - Get a brand new stadium, get fiscally competitive, tread water for 10 years because of our owner's man-crush. - In Progress
Step 3- ???
Step 4 - Profit.
 
I view Gruden as part of the 2nd step in our 25-year rebuild plan.

Step 1 - Gut the place, get the cap in order, get a steam room. - Check.
Step 2 - Get a brand new stadium, get fiscally competitive, tread water for 10 years because of our owner's man-crush. - In Progress
Step 3- ???
Step 4 - Profit.

I can see Gruden potentially moving upstairs in a few years as some special advisor or something. I just don't see him coaching for 10 years.
 
I can see Gruden potentially moving upstairs in a few years as some special advisor or something. I just don't see him coaching for 10 years.
At this point, I assume he will. Just to remind me of what a dumbass I am to root for this team year in and year out. I give it a 95% chance we go into next year with Carr as the starting QB and Guenther as our D coordinator. But at least we have Mayock. :killme:
 
So I come here for the first time in ages and it's like you guys are reading my mind.

It sure seems like Gruden is behind the times, but I hope it's just a factor of Carr sucking, which I hope is just a factor of having piss poor receivers, which I hope is just a factor of us having a piss poor GM b4 Mayock, which I hope is just a factor of Al dying and leaving us with a coke-head owner...
 
Few rambling thoughts..
Gru’s fine. The same guy we’re doubting did have us at 6-4 at one time, when immediately after it was announced that we had cut AB...we ALL would have taken 6-10, no questions asked. The reason why we would have taken 6-10 is cuz we still have a shit roster save for some key pieces. If you want to play with the big boys - for a full 16 weeks- is you gotta have that flipped: you have to have key pieces all over the field save for a few ‘JAG’s’ (just a guy). You can hide a few jag’s here and there... you can’t if they make up the majority of your 22.

But take heart: we won 4 ly...we’re gonna (probably) go 7-9 this year, 10-6 next year. Get the theme..? That’s a 3 win improvement each year. Nice, steady long term growth. And in 2021 we’ll probably have at least a dozen or so different starters than we do now. Nice Mayock hand picked premium players.

We gotta just get thru these next 3 weeks, admittedly an agonizing time as we take quite a few lumps...but then we look forward to an AMAZING Jan. - May as real players in FA and the the Draft.

Chin up Motherfuckers!!
 
I wish Gruden would just STFU about Carr. Say nothing. Then trade him for anything you can get.

Gruden knows Carr doesn’t have what it takes to lead men in the NFL. Stop enabling the coward.
 
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