FS - SS (DRAFT PROSPECTS)

Feeney is a pass rusher in a safety frame. Why not just make him a weak side LB?
becasue there is no such animal in the NFL?

Barkevious Mingo maybe.... that worked out well..
 
Excerpt below from MMQB on dearth of safeties, and the challenge of finding big safeties that can match up with large TEs. Isn't Reggie Nelson only 5' 11"?

"This is what makes Iloka’s soft market so puzzling. He had some cornerbacking experience at Boise State. More importantly, he’s 6' 4" and 225 pounds, with long arms. He might not be able to shut down Rob Gronkowski on an island for four quarters, but he has the physical tools to compete with an athletic pass-catcher of Gronk’s mold.

Of signed NFL safeties who play meaningful snaps on defense, only a dozen are at least 6' 2". Only eight weigh at least 225 pounds, and only seven others weigh more than 215. An average tight end runs somewhere around 6' 6", 245, and defenses simply don’t have big enough athletes in the deep middle of the field to compete with these versatile offensive weapons.

The problem will only get worse before it gets better. This year’s draft class is particularly weak at safety. Only four of most experts’ top 20 safety prospects are 6' 2". And none weigh more than 219."
Cravens at 6'1''/226 lb. has some size.
 
Feeney is a former safety. Could probably do it no problem. He was Kikaha's replacement this year but he can do other things.

Special teamer of the year. Adds to his value...

Probably a really nice pick for us actually @Byron2112

It's crazy how we have the roster now to actually take a chance on a potential freak. Al Davis would get slaughtered for that.
 
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or... maybe before mid-2nd round...
Reggie better grab one at #44 or (#51 with an additional 2nd round pick in a trade down).
 
Feeney is a former safety. Could probably do it no problem. He was Kikaha's replacement this year but he can do other things.

Special teamer of the year. Adds to his value...

Probably a really nice pick for us actually @Byron2112

It's crazy how we have the roster now to actually take a chance on a potential freak. Al Davis would get slaughtered for that.
could easily take care of our TE coverage problems anyway...
 
Takes care of Sleet and my H/W/S boner too
 
Thompson is not a thumper though.

We have Allen/Nelson now who play the same game as Thompson.

I think we need a different type of safety to matchup a little better.

How much coverage ability are you willing to sacrifice for the sake of a few hard licks, though?
 
How much coverage ability are you willing to sacrifice for the sake of a few hard licks, though?

Are you talking about Thompson?

I don't think he's as good in coverage as most.

3rd or 4th rounder being propped up by a shit class.
 
Are you talking about Thompson?

I don't think he's as good in coverage as most.

3rd or 4th rounder being propped up by a shit class.
3rd or 4th? That might be him being propped up at that.
 
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If we could snag Joseph I'd be excited about him teaming with Nelson. Don't see us taking him at 14 though or him dropping to our 2nd.
 
Are you talking about Thompson?

I don't think he's as good in coverage as most.

3rd or 4th rounder being propped up by a shit class.

In general. Your point was that he wasn't a thumper, and with our current secondary, someone "different" might be preferable. I assume by different, you meant an enforcer type.
 
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I really don't like many of the SS in this draft:

Cash seems decent but will probably be gone by time we pick in the 2nd round.

Joseph looks like a true stud SS but damn, he is never going to play 16 games in a season. He might be out of the league within 5 years due to injuries.

Not a fan of Bell at all. I think he's another overrated Ohio defender. Seems miscast as a SS as he's a horrible tackler.

Killabrew runs fast without pads but I just don't see that speed on the field. He appears to lack the instincts necessary to play SS. He can hit but he just has no clue what's going on around him.

Kearse just looks like a tall skinny guy trying to play Safety. He's just never looked impressive when I've watched him. If his last name wasn't Kearse he wouldn't even be talked about.

All that being said, I think Dillon in the 4th (hopefully even 5th) would be better value than dropping a 2nd on any SS not named Cash.
 
I really don't like many of the SS in this draft:

Cash seems decent but will probably be gone by time we pick in the 2nd round.

Joseph looks like a true stud SS but damn, he is never going to play 16 games in a season. He might be out of the league within 5 years due to injuries.

Not a fan of Bell at all. I think he's another overrated Ohio defender. Seems miscast as a SS as he's a horrible tackler.

Killabrew runs fast without pads but I just don't see that speed on the field. He appears to lack the instincts necessary to play SS. He can hit but he just has no clue what's going on around him.

Kearse just looks like a tall skinny guy trying to play Safety. He's just never looked impressive when I've watched him. If his last name wasn't Kearse he wouldn't even be talked about.

All that being said, I think Dillon in the 4th (hopefully even 5th) would be better value than dropping a 2nd on any SS not named Cash.
Agreed. I think at least one, but likely two, of Lee, Cravens, Cash and Joseph will be there at #44. And I'm all for Dillon in the 5th. I prefer Vigil, ILB, in the 4th. If we miss out on Lee, Cravens, Cash or Joseph, or go in a different direction, Red may have to take Vigil and Dillon earlier to address two of our three remaining needs.
 
In general. Your point was that he wasn't a thumper, and with our current secondary, someone "different" might be preferable. I assume by different, you meant an enforcer type.

Yeah I gotcha.

I think Thompson is a center field roamer type. Reggie and Nate both do that with varying levels of success.

I think we could use a real freak athlete at SS or a big time enforcer.

Like others said though we probably need both?
 
Yeah I gotcha.

I think Thompson is a center field roamer type. Reggie and Nate both do that with varying levels of success.

I think we could use a real freak athlete at SS or a big time enforcer.

Like others said though we probably need both?
Hopefully not a stupid penalty generator.
 
I keep hearing about Joseph's injury history, wasn't the guy an ironman until blowing out his knee in practice?

Edit- just looked it up, started every game three years in a row before blowing out his knee this year. How does this shit get started?
 
Can we assume we are taking some safety in the 2nd?
 
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