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I had a whole ass response typed out, the "assertively dickish" (© @TommyGirl LLC) bits deleted or reworded, and had it saved in drafts while I politely snickered at Martin Scorsese pettying his way out of a huge payday, and now I can't even hit send because it'll look like I'm piling on.

You suck.

I can still make fun of the noob, I guess. Won't be as fun as it coulda been, though.
 
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It is entirely too early to be this grumpy. Delete everything except "Stop being so sensitive", have your coffee, rub one out, then come back in a better headspace.

Don't make me send you the type of PM that you used to send me before I finally developed a little self-control. :chuckle:

He wasnt wrong though.
 
I guess I just dont see preferring a specific taste and procuring the resources to obtain it as a flaw with one's character. Then again, maybe we just have a different definition of spoiled.
 
I recall what my business professor taught us, "Be careful when making wide brushstroke statements."

Americans, on the whole, are no more spoiled than the rest of the first world. I am not sure why American self-loathing has become such a popular sport.

Darkenblot: Relays the advice he was given about not making broad brush statements.

Also Darkenblot: Uses an even broader brush in the very next sentence.


Come on, man...
 
I guess I just dont see preferring a specific taste and procuring the resources to obtain it as a flaw with one's character. Then again, maybe we just have a different definition of spoiled.

It's difficult to clearly convey most ideas with any single word. And while "spoiled" may not be the word I would have thought to use, someone used it...and I can't say I really disagree. And since a couple people got weirdly defensive about it, I couldn't not stick with the existing theme. :pound:


Being serious for a moment, I think the "spoiled" remark was, or should have been, made with the relative degrees of spoiledness... spoileditude... chronic brat-itis... whatever... in mind.

...as well as, among other things, the whiny and petulant behavior of a disgraceful number of people nationwide when they don't get their way or have to do some minor something they don't want to do during a crisis situation.

I honestly don't remember what it was in response to specifically, so I may just be projecting my thoughts onto someone else's words. Either way.


From where I sit, having actually read almost none of this exchange, the issues seem to be

  • As you've said, people's definition/understanding of the word, and whatever additional meaning they assign to it.
  • People not understanding/acknowledging the fact that there are levels and degrees to everything, including being spoiled. i.e., He's spoiled. She's spoiled. That doesn't mean, or even imply, one is as spoiled as the other, That's a harder concept than it oughta be for far more people than it should be. Some shit should go without saying. But...ya know. Humans being.
  • A couple/few people getting needlessly offended/defensive; behavior that could be viewed by some as validating the assertion.
  • And, yeah. Accurate or not, the choice of words could have been better. You've been here long enough, though. You know how we do.



My personal opinion: If being called spoiled is all it takes to upset someone, the word may in fact apply. Even if it doesn't apply at all, taking offense to such trivialities gives the impression that said individual is either accustomed to being handled with kid gloves (spoiled), or has deeper issues that cause them to view any sort of mild criticism as a personal attack.

Call it being a snowflake, soft, fragile, thin skinned, hypersensitive, narcissistic, or being so indoctrinated into this moronic country's increasingly tribal "us vs them" mentality, even minor criticism or an unflattering observation is seen as an attack. However one chooses describe it, it's not a good look. Frankly, it's pitiful.

For @Sleet: It ain't about being "manly men" or "tough guys" or whatever your new goofy catch phrase is. There's a broad spectrum between trying to act hard and being more sensitive than a sunburnt clitoris. It should be easy for people to not veer into either ditch. But...spoiled is as spoiled does, I reckon. ;)
 
Someone told me an expression ...

"Like an old boxer, can still dish it out, but can't take it anymore".

Pretty much sums up a helluva lot of people all over. Completely cool with shitting on someone else for what they want or believe, but go ballistic if they perceive someone is doing that to them.
 
It's difficult to clearly convey most ideas with any single word. And while "spoiled" may not be the word I would have thought to use, someone used it...and I can't say I really disagree. And since a couple people got weirdly defensive about it, I couldn't not stick with the existing theme. :pound:


Being serious for a moment, I think the "spoiled" remark was, or should have been, made with the relative degrees of spoiledness... spoileditude... chronic brat-itis... whatever... in mind.

...as well as, among other things, the whiny and petulant behavior of a disgraceful number of people nationwide when they don't get their way or have to do some minor something they don't want to do during a crisis situation.

I honestly don't remember what it was in response to specifically, so I may just be projecting my thoughts onto someone else's words. Either way.


From where I sit, having actually read almost none of this exchange, the issues seem to be

  • As you've said, people's definition/understanding of the word, and whatever additional meaning they assign to it.
  • People not understanding/acknowledging the fact that there are levels and degrees to everything, including being spoiled. i.e., He's spoiled. She's spoiled. That doesn't mean, or even imply, one is as spoiled as the other, That's a harder concept than it oughta be for far more people than it should be. Some shit should go without saying. But...ya know. Humans being.
  • A couple/few people getting needlessly offended/defensive; behavior that could be viewed by some as validating the assertion.
  • And, yeah. Accurate or not, the choice of words could have been better. You've been here long enough, though. You know how we do.



My personal opinion: If being called spoiled is all it takes to upset someone, the word may in fact apply. Even if it doesn't apply at all, taking offense to such trivialities gives the impression that said individual is either accustomed to being handled with kid gloves (spoiled), or has deeper issues that cause them to view any sort of mild criticism as a personal attack.

Call it being a snowflake, soft, fragile, thin skinned, hypersensitive, narcissistic, or being so indoctrinated into this moronic country's increasingly tribal "us vs them" mentality, even minor criticism or an unflattering observation is seen as an attack. However one chooses describe it, it's not a good look. Frankly, it's pitiful.

For @Sleet: It ain't about being "manly men" or "tough guys" or whatever your new goofy catch phrase is. There's a broad spectrum between trying to act hard and being more sensitive than a sunburnt clitoris. It should be easy for people to not veer into either ditch. But...spoiled is as spoiled does, I reckon. ;)
:chuckle:
 
It's difficult to clearly convey most ideas with any single word. And while "spoiled" may not be the word I would have thought to use, someone used it...and I can't say I really disagree. And since a couple people got weirdly defensive about it, I couldn't not stick with the existing theme. :pound:


Being serious for a moment, I think the "spoiled" remark was, or should have been, made with the relative degrees of spoiledness... spoileditude... chronic brat-itis... whatever... in mind.

...as well as, among other things, the whiny and petulant behavior of a disgraceful number of people nationwide when they don't get their way or have to do some minor something they don't want to do during a crisis situation.

I honestly don't remember what it was in response to specifically, so I may just be projecting my thoughts onto someone else's words. Either way.


From where I sit, having actually read almost none of this exchange, the issues seem to be

  • As you've said, people's definition/understanding of the word, and whatever additional meaning they assign to it.
  • People not understanding/acknowledging the fact that there are levels and degrees to everything, including being spoiled. i.e., He's spoiled. She's spoiled. That doesn't mean, or even imply, one is as spoiled as the other, That's a harder concept than it oughta be for far more people than it should be. Some shit should go without saying. But...ya know. Humans being.
  • A couple/few people getting needlessly offended/defensive; behavior that could be viewed by some as validating the assertion.
  • And, yeah. Accurate or not, the choice of words could have been better. You've been here long enough, though. You know how we do.



My personal opinion: If being called spoiled is all it takes to upset someone, the word may in fact apply. Even if it doesn't apply at all, taking offense to such trivialities gives the impression that said individual is either accustomed to being handled with kid gloves (spoiled), or has deeper issues that cause them to view any sort of mild criticism as a personal attack.

Call it being a snowflake, soft, fragile, thin skinned, hypersensitive, narcissistic, or being so indoctrinated into this moronic country's increasingly tribal "us vs them" mentality, even minor criticism or an unflattering observation is seen as an attack. However one chooses describe it, it's not a good look. Frankly, it's pitiful.

For @Sleet: It ain't about being "manly men" or "tough guys" or whatever your new goofy catch phrase is. There's a broad spectrum between trying to act hard and being more sensitive than a sunburnt clitoris. It should be easy for people to not veer into either ditch. But...spoiled is as spoiled does, I reckon. ;)

POTY.

Unfortunately @CrossBones cannot give out an award due to your admission of guilt regarding drugs. Failed test bud.

Well said though amigo.
 
Great movie. The humor of Scarface and Good Fellas put them ahead in my personal rankings but you really can’t go wrong with any of them.

Pope of Greenwich Village is one of my favs too
 
Why don’t y’all like The Irishman?

It puts forward one of the best theories of the Jimmy Hoffa disappearance.

It also depicts pretty accurately the way the La Cosa Nostra operated in those times.

Only problem is the same problem with a lot of death bed confessions from hit men or serial killers i.e. they tend to take credit for a lot more than maybe they were actually responsible for.

A good example of that was Richard Kuklinski, the infamous Iceman. He too decided to take credit for hitting Hoffa although his claim is nowhere as believable Frank Sheeran’s story.

Anyway I’ve read a lot about the Mafia and also Jimmy Hoffa. The Irishman is as believable as any and to me was a good representation with a great cast.
 
Carlito's Way is another favorite

"some kinda stink you gonna make.. pee-yew, what's that smell?... that's Saso man... used to be Ron.." :pound:

.. awesome acting... Sean Penn was maybe the ultimate greazy, shyster lawyer in motion picture history... and Viggo Mortensen was awesome too.




Kill the Irishman was a good one too.. Danny Greene was a straight crazy fucker with big brassy ones.
 
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