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Crow
12-22-2011, 01:55 PM
Who are the raw, athletic freaks and lightning fast, straight line speed merchants that would have given Al a Combine boner?

They're both midgets, but the two HBs from Florida (Jeff Demps, Chris Rainey) are both 4.3 guys, if not 4.2 and could prove to be valuable role players for whoever drafts them.

They certainly don't meet Al's size requirements. But if they both kill it at the Combine, I think he'd really struggle to pass on both...especially if Bush walks.

hawaiianboy
12-25-2011, 11:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdKwbuHXa5s

Crow
12-29-2011, 03:36 PM
@WesBunting Wesley Bunting
Thought #FloridaState OT Zebrie Sanders had the making of a legit prospect....reminds me of the Joe Barksdale/Mario Henderson's of the world

So you're saying Al would have painfully overdrafted this guy, given the chance?

Birdwell
03-01-2012, 05:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdKwbuHXa5s

Not as fast as, but reminds me of Mike Wallace. I was pretty high on Wallace coming out of Ole Miss, given his size/speed combination. The Indy track was pretty slow when the WRs ran, can't believe there wasn't a sub 4.35 guy in this year's draft eligible WRs.

But because he played for The U (even in a very down time of the program), he'll be overvalued where Wallace was undervalued for playing at Ole Miss.

Too bad (for us) Demario Davis got an invite to the combine. Not much chance he'll be there for us even at max possible comp pick for Nnamdi.

Langlier
03-01-2012, 07:26 PM
Junior Hemingway has Al Measurables... the 40 is an aberration. he's a 4.3 guy

BigTron
03-03-2012, 11:03 PM
I like Hemingways game. He is a sleeper for sure.

hawaiianboy
03-13-2012, 03:55 PM
Chuck Carroll ‏ @FNNChuck
Met Darrell Green's son today. Kid runs a 4.28 40. Will be doing UVA's Pro Day next week.

/threadover

Crow
03-13-2012, 03:58 PM
Fucking genes, man. Serious business.

007
04-02-2012, 11:15 PM
It's much tougher to nail down what kind of guys Reggie likes...

Here's a couple Pro Day beasts Al would probably take five rounds early, just in case:

TCU OLB Braylon Broughton: Ran a 4.59 at 6-4 257. Woah.

Toledo CB/FS Desmond Marrow: 6-2 208. 4.5 forty.

Albion CB Chris Greenwood. 6-2 190, ran a 4.4. (Apparently looked like shit at the E-W game)

Weber St LB Nick Webb. 6-3 245, Ran a 4.61

Turo
04-10-2012, 09:44 AM
It's much tougher to nail down what kind of guys Reggie likes...

Here's a couple Pro Day beasts Al would probably take five rounds early, just in case:

TCU OLB Braylon Broughton: Ran a 4.59 at 6-4 257. Woah.

Toledo CB/FS Desmond Marrow: 6-2 208. 4.5 forty.

Albion CB Chris Greenwood. 6-2 190, ran a 4.4. (Apparently looked like shit at the E-W game)

Weber St LB Nick Webb. 6-3 245, Ran a 4.61

Convert Broughton to RB, championship.

Diceq
04-13-2012, 11:11 AM
Raider Nation Times: http://raidernationtimes.com/article.php?id=8731

Oakland Raiders: Five potential 3rd Round Picks

David Wilson – Apr 11, 2012

The Raiders don’t have a pick in this years draft until number 95, at the end of the third round (not that this bothers Reggie McKenzie), so predicting who Oakland’s first pick will be becomes difficult. It depends greatly on the players still left on the board when the number 95 selection comes around.

As with any draft, there are plenty of options, and this years crop of talent is thankfully deep in areas that the Raiders need to upgrade.

Tony Bergstrom G Utah: Still my number one choice for the Raiders first pick. He is an ideal left guard, and that is exactly what the Raiders need. Cooper Carlisle is at the end of his career, and a replacement has to be found sooner rather than later. Bergstrom is a great fit for a zone scheme, and has a good character with oustanding work habits. He has the football smarts to pick up stunts and blitzes, and has been very durable. He occasionally plays with his pad level a little high, but he is a coachable player. An excellent choice who could start right away.

Josh Chapman NT Alabama: Chapman might not last this long on talent alone, but concerns about his knee may cause him to slide to the end of the third round. For a team that believes he is healthy he would be a solid investment. With Richard Seymour and Tommy Kelly the wrong side of thirty, some fresh young talent is needed. Chapman is a tough, productive, good character player from a national championship team. He does not bring much as a pass rusher, but is a great run defender with the ability to play nose tackle. That would give defensive coordinator Jason Tarver the option to put in some 3-4 looks.

Josh Kaddu OLB Oregon: Philip Wheeler was a great signing, but he is only on a one year contract and there is nothing behind him. The Raiders need some long term help at linebacker, and would not need Kaddu to start straight away. He is fast and aggressive, but needs to get stronger and develop his technique. Sitting for a year behind Wheeler would allow him to do that, and give Oakland a promising player for the future.

Bruce Irvin OLB/DE West Virginia: After losing Kamerion Wimbley, the Raiders need someone who can pressure off the edge, and Irvin has elite speed and burst to get to the quarterback in a hurry. He had the fastest three cone drill at the scouting combine (6.70), which was outstanding. On the downside he lacks a true position and is mainly a pass rush specialist, not having the mass (245 lbs) to anchor against the run. There are also concerns about his character that may cause him to slide to the third round, but Irvin has the potential to be the best pass rusher in the draft, and put real fear into opposing offensive linemen.

Tom Compton G South Dakota: Another dependable, blue collar player who could help out immediately on the offensive line. He displays exceptionally good short area quickness which makes be him a good fit for the zone system, and possesses the strength and aggressiveness that coaches love to see on the interior line. Compton would be a great addition to the Raiders, and would be a low risk pick at a need position.

Other players I considered for the 95th pick were Mitchell Schwartz (T – California), and Jeff Allen (G/T – Illinois), who would be great additions, but my feeling was that their draft stock has been rising and it is very unlikely that they will there when the Raiders pick.

One thing I am confident of though, is that whichever name that Reggie McKenzie writes on that piece of paper with the Raiders selection on it, will be the right person for this team.

McKenzie has continually made good decisions since his arrival as General Manager, and the Raider Nation

Diceq
04-20-2012, 10:54 AM
Vito:

rundown/analysis of the Raiders draft visits
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Southern California defensive tackle Armond Armstead (94) tackles Washington State running back Staden Chantz. (Ted S. Warren/AP)
Here is my list of which prospects have visited the Raiders and where/if general manager Reggie McKenzie may try and get them in next week’s draft (in alphabetical order). Oakland doesn’t pick until No. 95 in the third round:

USC defensive end Armond Armstead — He missed the 2001 season due to illness (chest pains) and was a late addition to the draft after choosing not to remain at USC or transfer to another program. He is 6-4, 294 and was dominant at times during the 2010 season. Good late-round reach.

East Carolina offensive tackle Steven Baker – He’s 6-foot-7, 301 pounds, ran a 4.91 40. Poor man’s Bruce Campbell might go in sixth or seventh round or else be free agent.

Iowa safety Jordan Bernstine – Return specialist ran the 40-yard dash in 4.34 and 4.38 seconds at his campus Pro Day workout. Lot of injuries in college. 7th-rounder probably moving to cornerback.

Utah cornerback Conroy Black — Mel Kiper ranks Black as 47th-best CB prospect and Bernstine 50th. Black is 5-11, 181 and ran a 4.49, tied for most interceptions in Pac-12 with four. Utah has sent five defensive backs to NFL in last three years.

Houston outside linebacker Sammy Brown — Fifth-round target? He doesn’t have explosive burst, scouts say, but he just makes plays. Led the nation with 30 tackles for a loss. He’s 6-2, 240 and has good instincts.

James Madison outside linebacker D.J. Bryant – Possible free agent could be developed as pass-rushing specialist. All-conference but scouts think he will have trouble at point of attack in NFL.

Morgan State tight end Lamont Bryant — 4.45 40 might get project drafted. A lot of teams ready with post-draft free-agent offers.
Nevada defensive end Kaelin Burnett — Ran a 4.55 at his pro day last month and might be looked at as outside linebacker. He didn’t become a starter at Nevada until his senior year. The 6-4, 238 -pound Burnett overcame a hip injury and had 51 tackles, eight tackles for loss and five sacks in 13 games. Free agent.

Beloit receiver Derek Carrier — Mel Kiper’s 61st-rated receiver, he is a big kid — 6-foot-3 and 238. He ran a 4.55 40, had a 40-inch vertical jump and a three-cone run of 6.69 seconds (which would have been second for WRs at the combine). He also produced at the Division III school. He caught 75 passes for 1,100 yards and 12 touchdowns last season. Go ahead and highlight this one. Carrier would be a nice get in Round 6.

Alabama defensive tackle Josh Chapman — It’s looking like this 6-foot, 310-pound space eater may be there for the Raiders at No. 95. Chapman is coming off a major knee injury, but when healthy has the body type to get low, plug the middle and let teammates make plays around him. We’ll see how serious Raiders are about playing more 3-4 this season.

UCLA running back Derrick Coleman — At 6-feet, 235, the hearing-impaired Coleman is a pile mover with decent quickness. Replacement for Michael Bush might be there in Round 5 or 6.

South Florida defensive end Claude Davis – Ranked 111th at DE by Kiper, Davis is 6-1, 229, ran a 4.68 and is being looked at as a linebacker project. Coming off knee surgery. Likely free agent but there are whispers that Patriots coach Bill Belichick likes him.

UCLA safety Tony Dye – Looked like big-time player as a safety but regressed last two years. Also had back and ankle injuries last season. Moves well, bad instincts is the scouting report. Free agent.

Vanderbilt defensive end Tim Fugger — Put a star by this one. Future outside linebacker could go in fifth round and play right away as pass-rush specialist. 6-3, 260, 4.73. Projected to go in 5th round.

Slippery Rock receiver Devin Goda – 6-2, three-year starter whose lack of burst probably has him catching on as free agent.

Albion cornerback Chris Greenwood – 6-1, 189 and likely headed to safety at the next level. He may have jumped up to fifth round with Pro Day showing last month (4.34 40, vertical jump of 43 inches and a broad jump of 11-foot-2.)

Washington State outside linebacker Alex Hoffman-Ellis — Fast and fiery, but often eaten up by blocks in college. Free agent could make an impact on special teams.

Tennessee inside linebacker Austin Johnson – Strictly a run defender and possible free agent.

BigTron
04-21-2012, 01:12 PM
poor mans Bruce Campbell... ouch.

Crow
04-21-2012, 06:17 PM
That's a kick in the nuts, eh?