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What a big nasty MF'er
This article says he's gonna Beast at guard in the NFL
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2011-02-25/sports/sfl-orlando-franklin-hurricanes-qa-022511_1_meniscus-beast-nfl-scouts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLXxk9cUtqA
RaiderRobert
03-09-2011, 08:30 PM
Finally. I have been asking you guys about this cat for a few weeks now. I see him rated all over the place. From a 2nd to a 5th Rounder. Can play G or T. I think he would pair up very nice next to BC and let them duke it out for who plays G, and who plays T.
Sleet
03-09-2011, 08:40 PM
Good prospect at #48. Sounds like an OL Cable would love in his ZB scheme; not a beast or mauler but athletic. Guess we'll see if he's Hue's type of OL for his (power) running game. While there may not be a lot of 1st round talent at OL in the draft, we should have several options in the 2nd and 3rd rounds to upgrade the OL. Al, my guess, prefers drafting/converting OT to play G.
Orlando Franklin
T, Miami (FL)
War Room analysis
Run blocking: Is capable of driving his man five yards off the ball, yet just as likely to get knocked back by the defender. Appears to lack a violent streak on contact. Has rare body control and balance to sustain his blocks on the second level. Grade: 7.0
Pass blocking: Has the feet, flexibility and lateral agility to make pass blocking on the edge seem easy. Is a gifted athlete with the ability to cut off the edge speed rusher. Has the lateral recovery ability to maintain good position against the quick inside move from the edge. Is not physical with his hands and struggles to anchor down against strong bull rushers. Grade: 8.0
Initial quickness: Has natural explosion out of his stance. Displays the smooth hips and lateral agility to work into a position to sustain run blocks on the second level. Plays with great lower body flexibility and leverage along the line of scrimmage. Can get sloppy with his footwork and is late off the ball at times. Grade: 8.5
Strength: Has below-average functional strength on contact. Needs to improve in this area to be an effective player at the next level. Does not show a strong punch or violent finish often enough in his play. Grade: 5.0
Mobility: Moves gracefully as a smaller player. Has the footwork to play left tackle and the athleticism to play left guard in a system with a lot of zone blocking. Displays the skills to be an effective blocker on the move and on the second level. Has the rare ability to regain his balance after being knocked over. Grade: 8.5
Bottom line: Franklin began his career at Miami as a left guard before taking over at left tackle last season. He has the size and athleticism of a first-rounder, but a lack of strength and toughness could drop him to the third round. Teams will also consider Franklin's versatility, as he can play tackle or guard on the offensive line.
Finally. I have been asking you guys about this cat for a few weeks now. I see him rated all over the place. From a 2nd to a 5th Rounder. Can play G or T. I think he would pair up very nice next to BC and let them duke it out for who plays G, and who plays T.
Yes, yes you did... and for that .. **slides beer**
He looks pretty strong inside
Birdwell
03-20-2011, 03:34 PM
Good prospect at #48. Sounds like an OL Cable would love in his ZB scheme; not a beast or mauler but athletic. Guess we'll see if he's Hue's type of OL for his (power) running game. While there may not be a lot of 1st round talent at OL in the draft, we should have several options in the 2nd and 3rd rounds to upgrade the OL. Al, my guess, prefers drafting/converting OT to play G.
Orlando Franklin
T, Miami (FL)
War Room analysis
Run blocking: Is capable of driving his man five yards off the ball, yet just as likely to get knocked back by the defender. Appears to lack a violent streak on contact. Has rare body control and balance to sustain his blocks on the second level. Grade: 7.0
Pass blocking: Has the feet, flexibility and lateral agility to make pass blocking on the edge seem easy. Is a gifted athlete with the ability to cut off the edge speed rusher. Has the lateral recovery ability to maintain good position against the quick inside move from the edge. Is not physical with his hands and struggles to anchor down against strong bull rushers. Grade: 8.0
Initial quickness: Has natural explosion out of his stance. Displays the smooth hips and lateral agility to work into a position to sustain run blocks on the second level. Plays with great lower body flexibility and leverage along the line of scrimmage. Can get sloppy with his footwork and is late off the ball at times. Grade: 8.5
Strength: Has below-average functional strength on contact. Needs to improve in this area to be an effective player at the next level. Does not show a strong punch or violent finish often enough in his play. Grade: 5.0
Mobility: Moves gracefully as a smaller player. Has the footwork to play left tackle and the athleticism to play left guard in a system with a lot of zone blocking. Displays the skills to be an effective blocker on the move and on the second level. Has the rare ability to regain his balance after being knocked over. Grade: 8.5
Bottom line: Franklin began his career at Miami as a left guard before taking over at left tackle last season. He has the size and athleticism of a first-rounder, but a lack of strength and toughness could drop him to the third round. Teams will also consider Franklin's versatility, as he can play tackle or guard on the offensive line.
From the I highlighted, versus the bit you did Sleet, my gut says Hue will look past him to someone nastier, stronger, and more powerful. No teling whether his lack of strength dictates lack of nastiness (and punch on pass blocking) or whether his lack of nastiness, means he's comfortable where he's at, strength-wise.
If you are great at quickness and not good at anchoring versus the bull rush, guess which move you're gonna see when the guy across from you needs to get a pressure/sack? And if you don't anchor well, how you gonna play G at the NFL level?
Or maybe the scouting report is wrong. Highlights from one game aren't much of an argument, either way.
hawaiianboy
03-21-2011, 05:27 PM
War Room analysis
Never been a fan of the Sporting News draft stuff... NFLDraftScout is free now and much better IMO
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2011
Analysis
Pass blocking: Flashes the initial quickness and depth in his kick-slide to consider remaining outside at tackle if he plays on the right side in the NFL. Was late off the snap early in his career at Miami, one of several reasons why the coaching staff kept him inside at left guard. Possesses the physical traits to develop into a top pass blocker. Long arms, strong hands and surprisingly good balance and overall agility. Slides laterally and is able to control opponents when he locks on.
Run blocking: Only marginal initial quickness off the snap, but comes off surprisingly low and hard. Can knock defenders off the ball. Shows good leg drive to gain ground and doesn't back down from a fight. Flashes some nastiness finishing plays and will work to knock his opponent to the ground. Has to do a better job keeping his hands inside the numbers of defenders. Has a tendency to let his hands get too high and wide, which will result in holding penalties against NFL athletes.
Pulling/trapping: An effective trap blocker, his slow first step off the snap can actually work in his favor as opponents rush past him. Is strong enough to latch on and large enough to seal a lane for the ballcarrier. Isn't often asked to pull in this offense and doesn't appear to have the straight-line speed or flexibility to acclimate smoothly into this type of blocking scheme.
Initial Quickness: Too often is a beat slow off the snap. Has the bulk and power to maintain his position squarely in front of the defender while protected inside at guard, but doesn't consistently show the initial quickness to handle blocking on the outside against NFL athletes.
Downfield: Only average straight-line speed to get to the second level. Shows the flexibility to "get skinny" to avoid the trash and complete his assignment. Moderate balance to re-direct his charge at the second level. A bit of a bull in a china shop despite his experience. Too often is content with getting a shove on the defender and allowing his hands to get outside of the shoulder pads.
Intangibles: Signed with Miami (Fla.) as a highly touted prospect, but despite starting 35 games over the past four years, is still learning the technical nuances of the position. Has had his football IQ and toughness questioned in the past. Has shown an exciting ability to step up his level of play when physically challenged by talented opposition, but remains a work in progress.
Orlando is from Canada originally.
The Raiders need some tough as nails Canadian boys.
Orlando is from Canada originally.
The Raiders need some tough as nails Canadian boys.
Did you know its use to be called the Bermuda rectangle till Chuck roundhoused it into a triangle?
raiderfreak7
03-21-2011, 09:23 PM
Orlando is from Canada originally.
The Raiders need some tough as nails Canadian boys.
Like Gretzky... oh wait, nevermind.
Like Gretzky... oh wait, nevermind.
Woah woah woah.
Thats the great one you are talking about there amigo.
Sleet
03-22-2011, 01:59 PM
Never been a fan of the Sporting News draft stuff... NFLDraftScout is free now and much better IMO
I agree with your assessment of SportingNews' draft evaluations. Don't trust it, either. But its interesting how their rankings and write-ups often contrast, significantly, from other cites. Its hard to say if its mis-information or just different opinions/evaluations. The variance is interesting, though.
hawaiianboy
03-23-2011, 10:34 AM
McShay has the Canuck rated high...
evansilva Evan Silva
McShay: "I think (Miami T/G)Orlando Franklin could turn out to be one of the surprises in this year's draft." Has Franklin in 1st rd.
Byron2112
03-23-2011, 01:03 PM
He's a big, quick dude man... right up Al's alley...
RaiderRobert
03-23-2011, 01:13 PM
Good compliment to BC at the other Guard spot. Grab Wiz in the 3rd to play Center, and find a RT later on...
Sleet
03-23-2011, 06:49 PM
Not sold on Orlando, but happy to see there are several OL available at #48. Don't like that he's slow off the ball and can't pull. I do like that he comes out low and is athletic. Be interesting to see if he if there at #48 (as to which there is doubt), and if so, whether Al/Hue/Wylie pass in him for somebody more polished (Wiz) or with a bigger butt (Cannon).
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