Senior Bowl Catch-All Thread

[Crow]

Already looking like it's going to fall short of expectations.

Florida C/G Mike Pouncey has pulled out of the Senior Bowl.
He joins Iowa DE Adrian Clayborn on the list of high-profile players not participating. Maurkice's twin brother, Mike hurt his draft stock by staying for his senior year, and the Senior Bowl would have been a perfect forum to rebuild some momentum. That being said, he still projects to be one of the first offensive linemen off the board and should be a day-two selection.

[Crow]

Iowa DE Adrian Clayborn has pulled out of the Senior Bowl.
No injury has been mentioned, so it's a curious decision for a player coming off a highly disappointing senior year. Clayborn looked like a future first-rounder when he racked up 20 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks as a junior, but opted against leaving school and managed just seven and 3.5, respectively, in 2010. He'll be replaced by South Carolina DE Cliff Matthews.


According to SI's Tony Pauline, Ohio State DL Cameron Heyward's elbow surgery could sideline him for "up to three months."
It's a blow to Heyward's stock, as he'll miss both the Senior Bowl and any upper body-involved drills at February's Scouting Combine. He also may not be able to hold a Pro Day before the draft. Heyward was a powerful lineman at Ohio State, but needed to answer questions about his explosiveness.

[Crow]

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/Senior-Bowl.php

Weigh-in is Monday.

[Crow]

Noel Devine: 5'7, 160lbs

Ouch.

[Crow]

Looks like Mike Pouncey not playing due to injury, didnt just drop out

[Crow]

sidelinescouts

Kendall hunter at 5072 but weighs in at 199 pounds. Solid.

[Crow]

sidelinescouts

Stephen Paea - 6'1 1/8 and 295 pounds.


Smaller than I would have guessed.

[Crow]

Not that Oakland is in the running, but...


ShanePHallam

Solder weighs in at 314 height at a hair above 6'8


DraftCountdown

At the 2011 #SeniorBowl weigh-in, #Washington QB Jake Locker just officially checked in at 6022 and 228 pounds.

[007]

Herzlich apparently chizeled out of granite.

6-3 250.

Wes Bunting called him a 'paper turner'.

All the personnel guys flipped through their guides trying to scramble for info.

[007]

Colin Kaepernick checked in at 6-4 225. That'll help.

[007]

I like the sound of this, although he's another guy who is gone early...



Gabe Cirimi is a total beast. Looked like an Olympia contender walking off the stage. Nordic War hammer tattoos on his back are fitting

[Raider Nation]

Carimi certainly looks the part and has some serious intelligence (4 year Academic All-American). But he lacks a killer instinct and doesn't finish off enough blocks, IMO. Good prospect, to be sure, but I think he has some bust potential that will turn off some teams. He needs to go to a team with a down-hill power scheme as he could really struggle in a zone scheme.

[hawaiianboy]

I was very impressed by the physicality of Carimi and Moffitt this year... My concern with Carimi would be his ability to hold weight...

[hawaiianboy]

Colin Kaepernick checked in at 6-4 225. That'll help.


Man that dude looked skinny as hell when I saw him at the UH-Nevada game...

[007]

Kaepernick was the most accurate QB today...

Locker was 'erratic' according to Mike Mayock.

Kerrigan dominated guys, Carimi was impressive too.

Just reading the tweets/notes on this stuff as I'm at work.

[007]

That Southern Alabama (?) WR Courtney Smith is intriguing...

6-4 220 and ripped.

Titus Young doing his best McCluster impression today.

[Madturk]

Man that dude looked skinny as hell when I saw him at the UH-Nevada game...

Stepper was at the game:eek:

[Crow]

Man that dude looked skinny as hell when I saw him at the UH-Nevada game...

Roughly my height and 40 pounds lighter. Yeah, I can see how he'd look a little narrow. Should have room to comfortably add another 20 pounds over time.

[hawaiianboy]

bydavidwhite David White
Saw Ken Whisenhunt, Sean Peyton, Jason Garrett, Rob Ryan, Greg Manusky, Raiders staff at Senior Bowl. No 49ers coaches, who stayed home.

[Postmaster]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=NFL&columnid=203&articleid=37230

[007]

Heh, I plugged Kaepernick Oct 31st in this forum, before any other bandwagoners, and HB pimped John Moffitt even earlier on.

Both were two of the top day one perforers.

::: pats self on the back:::

Now comes my five draft whiffs.

[Postmaster]

Heh, I plugged Kaepernick Oct 31st in this forum, before any other bandwagoners, and HB pimped John Moffitt even earlier on.

Both were two of the top day one perforers.

::: pats self on the back:::

Now comes my five draft whiffs.

You pimped Toby too.

Nailed it.

[007]

http://www.sidelinescouting.com/srbowl/north/monday.shtml

A north report by Draft Crazy from kffl.

Here is the best site on the net for draft buzz. I hate giving it away because of all the Lil Al gems (LOL)

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/

Tony Pauline is a draft scout/CNNSI reporter, definitely has ins with all the NFL teams. He usually tells you who is coming in for private workouts, which teams showed up and interviewed people for pro days etc.

Every player broken down for the Senior and Shrine there.

[007]

You pimped Toby too.

Nailed it.

I still believe in Toby!

Hey, I said I go five whiffs and one hit. I have a better track record than the big guy running our show!

EDIT: Oh and when Toby actually played extensively, he was a lot like Mike Bush (Who I always dogged). He did pretty well when he got 10+ touches. Tough to get that behind the best RB in the league though.

[Crow]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-senior-bowl/09000d5d81dcff1d/Mayock-on-QB-class

Uh oh. May have to move my guy up to Rd2 and shoot for Moffit in Rd3.

[007]

Yeah I'm no Dalton expert, but that release is laser quick. I like that.

I pimp Kaepernick, but his release is butt nasty. Long arms, long body, big windy release. Rocket arm for sure, but that and a nickel wont get you much.

[Crow]

Plus, he's got that Gannon/Gradkowski mouth to him. I figure if he can reach a level somewhere between those two, he'll be worth keeping around for a few years.

[Crow]

http://www.sidelinescouting.com/srbowl/north/monday.shtml

A north report by Draft Crazy from kffl.

Here is the best site on the net for draft buzz. I hate giving it away because of all the Lil Al gems (LOL)

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/

Tony Pauline is a draft scout/CNNSI reporter, definitely has ins with all the NFL teams. He usually tells you who is coming in for private workouts, which teams showed up and interviewed people for pro days etc.

Every player broken down for the Senior and Shrine there.

Good link. I just found another jihad, and one at least slightly more viable than Dalton.

Lee Smith TE Marshall 6057 269 34 9 3/8
Monday Practice Notes: Was dominant blocking. Controlled everyone/anyone at the point of attack. Not much of a pass catcher and plods around the field.

Draft him.
Use him in your heavy packages.
Beef his ass up.
Move him to tackle.
???
Profit.

His role stays the same. He takes over for Barnes, and should prove to be a better candidate for a starting OL gig at some point.

[007]

LOL. I saw him too.

Read how he was blocking as good as some of the OT's and pulled some internet research today.

[Crow]

And someone please tell me why I've never bothered taking that 90 minute highway trip to Mobile and caught this shit live? I'm such a failure.

[Crow]

LOL. I saw him too.

Read how he was blocking as good as some of the OT's and pulled some internet research today.

"Was dominant blocking. Controlled everyone/anyone at the point of attack."

I'm in.

That Shane P. Hallam cat...ya know. Scott Wright's piss boy...said he's keep a closer eye on Lee Smith and would ask him, at the request of yours truly, if any teams had mentioned a move to tackle.

[007]

Hallam has put in work. I respect that.

No joke, I remember reading some of his stuff on bleacher report, and him posting on NFLDC all day long.

Doing what he loves. Good stuff there.

[Crow]

He just needs a proof reader. Maybe I can get that gig. :D

[Rupert]

He just needs a proof reader. Maybe I can get that gig. :D

Couldn't hurt. Might make him look smarter. He gets some offers. Buys you a new screen door. It's a win win.

[hawaiianboy]

Us talking with Allen Bailey...

http://c0013624.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_45169be

[Madturk]

And someone please tell me why I've never bothered taking that 90 minute highway trip to Mobile and caught this shit live? I'm such a failure.

Maybe cuz you didn't get your AMC Pacer off cinder blocks:p

[hawaiianboy]

Maybe cuz you didn't get your AMC Pacer off cinder blocks:p


http://www.chicagosportriders.com/forums/images/smilies/smilies8/zing.gif

[RaiderRobert]

Us talking with Allen Bailey...

http://c0013624.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_45169be

And he's tweeting away on his phone not even paying attention to the Raider assistant who is trying to get his attention...

[007]

Richard Sherman who I pimped last year was a late SB addition.

6-2 CB who was one day behind the rest and looked smoove today.


Sherman looked very impressive for a defensive back of his size. He showed the ability to cover the smaller, quicker receivers which I did not expect

[007]

Richard Sherman, CB, Stanford. In his first practice after being added late, he looked out of place. Sherman (6-3, 192) showed stiff hips and a choppy backpedal in coverage. He missed jams several times and was beaten downfield. He didn’t come close to making a play on the ball in the air. In the few times where he found himself in good coverage position, he didn’t seem to anticipate the throw quick


I thought he looked good pressing guys, he has the game we usually covet at cb. Bigger than I thought at 6-3

[Crow]

Couldn't hurt. Might make him look smarter. He gets some offers. Buys you a new screen door. It's a win win.

Maybe cuz you didn't get your AMC Pacer off cinder blocks:p

http://www.chicagosportriders.com/forums/images/smilies/smilies8/zing.gif

Y'all got jokes. I see how it is.

And how the hell y'all know I needed new screen doors any damn way? :confused:

[doingthisinsteadofwork]

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Observations/Tuesday.php

Some of the players were reportedly interested in.I'd love for the Raiders to show some interest in Mason Foster and Colin McCarthy.

[hawaiianboy]

• Wisconsin OG / C John Moffitt appears to be a guy who genuinely wants to improve, often asking coaches a question or clarifying a point.


Our future center is on point...

[007]

Mayock had a good point on Moffitt.

Dude got worked on consecutive 1 v 1's and Mayock says "This guy will look like that in drills, but he's going to start for some team for a long time because he knows how to play the game"

You've sold me on him, although I might think about keeping him at guard...

[007]

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Observations/Tuesday.php

Some of the players were reportedly interested in.I'd love for the Raiders to show some interest in Mason Foster and Colin McCarthy.

Post more bro.

I look for where you post sometimes because I think your draft insights are top notch.

You over at NFLDC?

And I like that we were talking with Helu Jr. I think he has legit NFL potential...

[hawaiianboy]

• Wisconsin OT Gabe Carimi played both guard and tackle today. He was the one tackle who moved to guard who was effective most of the time. Against Stanford NT Sione Fua, for example, Carimi used his hands to keep Fua’s strength at bay. In 7-on-7’s, Carimi played left tackle and showed the feet and quickness needed to be a starter at the next level.

• Wisconsin OG John Moffitt had a very good day. Moffitt abused Sione Fua in “The Pit” early on, using his hands well to counter Fua’s strength. Moffitt also looked more athletic than anticipated when pulling.

• California DE Cameron Jordan was downright dominant. It did not matter who he matched up against, Cameron Jordan got past them. Jordan used power moves, swim moves, speed, strength and more to get the job done. Jordan’s motor was running high regardless of whether he was outside at end or inside at tackle. The best performance of the 2011 Senior Bowl so far, and by a wide margin.









Senior Bowl's North taken over by trenchmen

By Rob Rang
NFLDraftScout.com
Jan. 25, 2011

Skill-position talent grabbed the bulk of the attention in Monday's practices. Tuesday's practice was dominated by Colorado offensive tackle Nate Solder and California defensive end Cameron Jordan.

Solder's length (6-8, 314) and moderate technique make him vulnerable to speed rushers. However, he handled Purdue's Ryan Kerrigan with ease Tuesday, showing the flexibility, balance and long arms to control. NFL coaches can work with Solder to improve his initial movement off the snap. Rather than gaining depth with his initial step, Solder often raises steps straight up. This correctable issue isn't going to keep Solder from being one of the first offensive tackles selected in the draft. In fact, if he can keep up his performance, the Colorado star could wind up as the first offensive lineman drafted.

Jordan has been virtually unstoppable and the standout defensive player in Mobile. Perhaps most impressive, the 6-4, 287-pounder has been doing it while lining up at left defensive end and as a three-technique defensive tackle.

When aligned outside, Jordan has shown more burst than expected, likely the result from playing in Cal's 3-4 scheme, which asks its defensive linemen to occupy blockers more than rush upfield. His burst allowed him to cross the face of Indiana offensive tackle James Brewer and beat him off the edge. Hardly just a speed rusher, Jordan has shown powerful and active hands, and a good rip and swim move.

Jordan's swim move was his most effective against the North's interior linemen. His quick arm-over technique allowed him to easily beat Slippery Rock's Brandon Fusco, Toledo's Kevin Kowalski and Michigan's Steve Schilling, all guard or center prospects.

Jordan was too dominant, at times. His burst upfield landed him in trouble with the Bengals' coaching staff during a full 11-on-11 scrimmage at one point, when he hit quarterback Ricky Stanzi to force a fumble.

Players are strictly instructed not to hit quarterbacks during practices.

Iowa defensive lineman Christian Ballard made some big plays during the scrimmage, drawing some gasps from the scouts. Ballard's athleticism makes him an obvious mismatch inside in one-on-one drills. Scouts would like to see him be able to translate more of his flashiness during practice into scrimmages and game situations.

Solder appeared to distance himself from the rest of the offensive tackles on the North team, though Wisconsin's Gabe Carimi and Boston College's Anthony Castonzo had solid performances.

Carimi (6-7, 315) has the size and physicality in the running game scouts like. He simply doesn't have the footwork to remain at left tackle.

Carimi has been moved inside to left guard more often than right tackle so far, limiting opportunities to evaluate him. Carimi's strength has given him some success inside. Castonzo, who like Carimi, never played guard in four starting seasons at the collegiate level, wasn't as successful with the transition.

Castonzo's height (6-7, 305) and comparatively narrow base made things difficult when he asked to line up at right guard against defensive tackles. Inside, Castonzo's best asset -- his quick feet and long arms -- are negated. Defensive tackles such as Notre Dame's Ian Williams and Stanford's Sione Fua each blew past him with quickness and bull rushes.

While Fusco, Kowalski and Castonzo struggled inside, Wisconsin's John Moffitt played well.

There are some concerns about his core strength. Defensive tackles able to get into his pads were able to twist him, pushing him into the pocket during some individual drills.

During team drills, Moffitt's strength and balance made him the toughest draw for any defensive tackle. Moffitt blasted holes at the first level and showed better agility in the open field than expected. At times, the former Badger was blocking 15 yards downfield, including on a screen to Marshall tight end Lee Smith when Moffitt locked onto Virginia Tech cornerback Rashad Carmichael and rode him out of the play entirely.

[RF34]

North has trio of good offensive tackle prospects
By Pat Kirwan NFL.com
Senior Analyst
Published: Jan. 25, 2011 at 07:24 p.m

The Senior Bowl is the last opportunity to see draft-eligible seniors in pads playing real football as opposed to workouts in shorts, which will consume the rest of the evaluation process leading up to the draft.

It is also the first opportunity for NFL coaches to study the new talent. Bengals and North team coach Marvin Lewis told me, "This is my real first look at this year's crop of players and I like what I see so far."

The Senior Bowl group this year will probably produce 8-10 first-round selections, 12-15 second-round players and close to 17 third-round picks.

The first thing to jump out at me after watching the North squad practice twice was the quality of the offensive tackles. Three North tackles came into the week with a first-round grade and so far, and they are passing the eye-ball test. The Bengals' coaches are moving them around from the right side to the left side and even giving them a little work at guard.

Wisconsin's Gabe Carimi is close to 6-foot-7 and will play in the 325-pound range in the NFL, and the first trait that surfaced was his competitive attitude. He served notice in the first practice that he will play to the whistle on every play and you are in for a rough day if you line up opposite him. He is very capable of establishing the point of attack in a power running game and could be more of a right tackle than a left tackle. He has the technique to play the left side, but after two practices I like the mauler part of his game the most. During the Tuesday practice he also showed the feet to pull and fold block.

Boston College's Anthony Castonzo impressed me with his feet and pass protection skills. He has patient hands and a timely punch. He was beat in a one-on-one session by California's Cameron Jordan, but quickly recovered and dominated the next opportunity. Castonzo has natural knee and ankle bend, and looks better suited for the left side. He will have to do a good job against the bull rush the rest of the week to erase some doubts about his lower body strength. He demonstrated enough bend, however, to win with leverage. He also flashed the athletic ability to handle athletic rushers like Purdue's Ryan Kerrigan. I also really liked how he sustained his run blocks. He's not a power type, but has the feet to lock on and stay on the defender. He is quick out of his stance and gains leverage and position on the defender. He made the defensive tackle look slow out of his stance with his initial quickness a few times during Tuesday's team drills. The former tight end has above average athletic ability for his position.

Colorado's Nate Solder is a massive man close to 6-9 and more than 300 pounds, but he could stand to add some bulk as he matures. On Monday, he struggled a little with rushers getting to his chest and knocking his hands down, but he quickly recovered and finished a few blocks it appeared he might lose. That is what NFL line play is all about. The ability to recover is a necessary trait for pro offensive linemen. Solder impresses me with his mobility and athleticism for a big man. Often guys this tall struggle with their ankle and knee bend, but he has it. He is advertised as an NFL left tackle, but after two practices I'm not so sure that's his best position. I will report back on him later in the week. He had a few waist-bend situations when the defender used a spin move or converted speed to power. I would like to see some more explosive pop from him, especially when they ask him to pull and trap.

There might not be enough quality pass rushers on the North squad to evaluate these three fine tackles well enough during Senior Bowl week. Two rushers that did catch my attention, however, were Kerrigan and Jordan. Kerrigan has pass-rush technique and very good quickness, but he could be undersized as a down lineman, which could affect his status as a first-round hopeful.

Jordan is a 280-pounder working outside and inside and he knows how to knock the blockers' hands down and get the edge. Cameron is a one-gap penetrator, who is stout enough to two-gap and appears ideal in a 3-4 move front. He has been around the football constantly in the team, nine-on-nine and seven-on-seven periods this week. On Tuesday morning, I was impressed with his discipline to read the bootleg, rather than play recklessly in pursuit of the ball.

I have spent the first two North practices evaluating players who play with their hand on the ground. That's always a good place to start at the Senior Bowl. The centers and guards will be next, but they don't appear to be as good as the tackles.

Link (http://www.nfl.com/seniorbowl/story/09000d5d81dea24d/article/north-has-trio-of-good-offensive-tackle-prospects?module=HP_cp2)

[007]

From last years SB...

Law of averages says we'll probably take one of the guys we're seen speaking with.

I remember we met with Bruce Campbell and Lamar Houston at the combine.


The Raiders were talking with WR Jacoby Ford, LB Sean Weatherspoon, DE Tyson Alualu, DE Brandon Graham & to Alabama CB Javier Arenas.

[007]

Dare I say, late first rounder? (Probably a solid second rounder now)


Monday Practice Notes: Looked terrific all day. Threw the ball exceptionally well from the get go. Showed not only a strong arm but very accurate. Timing was sensational as well. Hit receivers in stride or had the ball well on its way as they were leaving their breaks. Needs work on his long throws but overall it was a successful day for Kaepernick.
Tuesday Practice Notes: Had another terrific day throwing the ball. Very accurate with good timing. Threw a terrific pass in scrimmage where he got the ball between three defenders into the receivers hands.
Wednesday Practice Notes: Another terrific day for Kaepernick. Made several tremendous passes, placing his throw(s) where only his receiver could make the reception. Showed a strong arm and passes had good speed. Less than a handful of wayward passes.

[Rupert]

Dare I say, late first rounder? (Probably a solid second rounder now)

People keep talking about his throwing motion.

It's a whole lot of bullshit if you ask me. People had the same kind of concerns about Phillip Rivers and Vince Young and hell even Bernie Kosar.

Kaepernick has demonstrated he knows how to make his mechanics work well in college game situations that translate pretty well to NFL game situations. In other words, the kid's head is in the game. The question with him will be if defenses can make him hold the ball, then his release could become an issue.

Personally, I'd take the kid.

[007]

People keep talking about his throwing motion.

It's a whole lot of bullshit if you ask me. People had the same kind of concerns about Phillip Rivers and Vince Young and hell even Bernie Kosar.

Kaepernick has demonstrated he knows how to make his mechanics work well in college game situations that translate pretty well to NFL game situations. In other words, the kid's head is in the game. The question with him will be if defenses can make him hold the ball, then his release could become an issue.

Personally, I'd take the kid.

I politely disagree.

Rivers release was always quick, Vincy Young throws that shotput style ball too. I'm pretty sure Kosar had a quick trigger too, although it was before my time. There is a difference between a funky LOOKING delivery and one that is elongated and windy.

Kaepernick has issues with the length of his motion. He has really long arms and a really windy delivery. It is a problem, no matter what.

He can be developed though for sure. Accurate all week, really mobile and a rocket arm.

[hawaiianboy]

Kaepernick reminds me physically (not mentally) of Aaron Brooks... Brooks also took the ball way back low on his delivery in a similar way... Kaepernick's delivery IMO, looks like a 3rd baseman throwing to first... Brooks played for years, so the delivery itself is not fatal...

[007]

I was gonna say Leftwich or Jamarcus too, but the general idea is the same. All tall, long limbed guys with a big windup.

In the end, if he can play, he can play.

[Postmaster]

evansilvaMayock lists only 2 potential 1st-rd guards: Mike Pouncey (FL) and Stefen Wisniewski (PSU). But Danny Watkins (Baylor) "growing on people."

[Raidervinny]

I was gonna say Leftwich or Jamarcus too, but the general idea is the same. All tall, long limbed guys with a big windup.

In the end, if he can play, he can play.

Jamarcus didn't have a big windup...he had a very quick release. Crap between the ears but that kid did not have a hitch in his motion.

[Rupert]

I politely disagree.

Rivers release was always quick, Vincy Young throws that shotput style ball too. I'm pretty sure Kosar had a quick trigger too, although it was before my time. There is a difference between a funky LOOKING delivery and one that is elongated and windy.

Kaepernick has issues with the length of his motion. He has really long arms and a really windy delivery. It is a problem, no matter what.

He can be developed though for sure. Accurate all week, really mobile and a rocket arm.

Disagree with what exactly? That guys with problems with their delivery can succeed in the league?

So in one breath you say he's got a long windup, and in the reports they say his timing is impecable. Well which is it? Too slow, or right on time? Obviously, "he knows how to make his mechanics work well in college game situations that translate pretty well to NFL game situations." :shakehead:

[hawaiianboy]

WesBunting Wesley Bunting
Again very unimpressed with #USC C Kris O'Dowd...tough to play center in the league if you can't anchor!

[007]

Disagree with what exactly? That guys with problems with their delivery can succeed in the league?

So in one breath you say he's got a long windup, and in the reports they say his timing is impecable. Well which is it? Too slow, or right on time? Obviously, "he knows how to make his mechanics work well in college game situations that translate pretty well to NFL game situations." :shakehead:

Uh, I said he's got a long windup bro.

He does.

That doesnt mean he can't play though.

[RaiderRobert]

Uh, I said he's got a long windup bro.

He does.

That doesnt mean he can't play though.

I hadn't seen him play before, but saw some coverage on NFLN of SB practices. Skinny as fuck, was thinking he may get hurt in the NFL. But then I saw him throw, which he did well. And THEN, they showed him take off and run. Dude has some wheels. I like him and wouldn't be sad if we grabbed him. Unless of course it was him or Wiz. I want my cake and eat it too I guess...

[hawaiianboy]

Pretty fair breakdown IMO by Wes Bunting (who I really like as a draft analyst)... Personally, during this year I thought Kaepernick was going to get looks as a WR prospect as a pro, but I guess not...

Colin Kaepernick: Nevada (6-5, 225)
In all honesty Kaepernick had his strongest performance of the week today, showcasing his strong arm cleanly spinning the football down the field and making some big throws vertically. He exhibited solid touch on the deep ball today, as well, and when the guy has time to get back in his drop and hitch into throws, he sees the field well, anticipates routes and exhibits the ability to be accurate down the field.

However, he’s a bit of an awkward quarterback prospect and despite his above-average straight-line speed, he allows himself to lose his base and get a bit upright in the pocket, causing his passes to sail on him. Plus, when you look at the guy's overall release, he’s got a real wind-up, taking him too long to get the ball out on time and will struggle with his timing/accuracy in the underneath pass game.

Overall, I think he’s an intriguing later-round prospect in more of a vertical pass game. He can make all the throws and when he has time to set his feet he can be very effective. However, his throwing mechanics and footwork leave a lot to be desired when working from under center and despite his physical skill set, the guy is going to need plenty of work and he’s just a real wildcard who I don’t see maturing into an effective starter in the NFL.

[007]

Mayock thinks he's a 4.4 guy

Tennessee, Miami and Washington are on his nuts though, so I could see him going earlier than some people think with the skill set he has...

[Postmaster]

My All-Senior Bowl (practice) team
Posted on: January 27, 2011 4:12 pm

Today and tomorrow's practices at the Senior Bowl are essentially walk-throughs, making Monday-Wednesday's practices far and away the most important ones for evaluating prospects.

Prospects at every position stood out. Fellow Senior Analyst Chad Reuter and I put together an expanded Risers-Fallers article soon to be released on NFLDraftScout.com based on these practices. In the mean time, here is my All-Practice team.

QB: Colin Kaepernick, Nevada
RB: Kendall Hunter, Oklahoma State
FB: Owen Marecic, Stanford
WR: Vincent Brown, San Diego State
WR: Jeremy Kerley, TCU
TE: Luke Stocker, Tennessee
OT: Nate Solder, Colorado
OG: Danny Watkins, Baylor
C: Kris O'Dowd, USC
OG: John Moffitt, Wisconsin
OT: Anthony Castonzo, Boston College

DE: Cameron Jordan, California
DT: Phil Taylor, Baylor
DT: Ian Williams, Notre Dame
DE: Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue
OLB: Von Miller, Texas A&M
ILB: Casey Matthews, Oregon
OLB: Lawrence Wilson, Connecticut
CB: Johnny Patrick, Louisville
CB: Shareece Wright, USC
S: Da'Norris Searcy, North Carolina
S: Ahmad Black, Florida

[Birdwell]

Colin Kaerpernick is a guy I've been follwing since his freshman year. (Actually, doscovered him while doing some research on the Pistol O, which is not really the gimmick that people think it is the way it's employed by its developer Chris Ault at Nevada. It's not just a formation, but a whole approach to running an O that allows bits of different offenses to be incorporated. The key is the positionning of the skill players, with the RBs closer to a split back position and the QB four yards back to be still in front of them than the typical seven yard shotgun (hence, Pistol).

Kaepernick was a baseball player and pitcher in high school with a 90+ mph fastball. His delivery looks like that. But he has actually shortened his deliver motion (windup) since his freshman year. That says he is coachable, but may suggest that there are limits as to how far he can go.

He does have what you can't teach: arm strength, the ability to throw a good deep ball after only two days with a receiver, and accuracy on intermediate and timing routes. Longer windup just means he has to start sooner.

This means two things. First, it means by necessity he has to lock onto his target sooner than a guy with a quick release, and (second) this would allow a defenderwith eyes on the QB to begin breaking to the spot when they see the start of the motion. Thing is, this was not that much of a problem even against a super-technically sound BC defense that had 45 days to prepare for it. Add in NFL speed, though (which BC doesn't have a whiff of on D), and it might be a different story.

If there's no better value in a deep G and safety class, I wouldn't bitch if we took him in round two, with the idea that he sits for at least a year.

[RaiderJF]

I haven't seen much of Kaerpernick outside of a few snipets from practices this week, but from what I have seen his wind-up / release look to be shorter/quicker than that of our current QB...

[BigTron]

O'Dowd didnt look very good from what I saw yesterday... could have just been a bad day. BUt i was not impressed

[007]

He's been getting ripped up.

He looks weak out there.

He doesnt look like a 'plug and go' starter we might need.

[007]

After watching Colin Kaepernick in Mobile, FOX Sports' Adam Caplan believes the Nevada quarterback has a chance to be drafted in the first round.

According to Caplan, Kaepernick was "clearly the best quarterback out of the six (on both Senior Bowl squads) and it's not even close." Kaepernick is picking up steam as a mid to late first-rounder in a rise similar to Jay Cutler's in 2006 and perhaps Josh Freeman's in 2009. Said NFL Network's Mike Mayock after seeing Kaepernick throw, "It's like watching Nolan Ryan."


Seriously? First round?

Holy shit.

[hawaiianboy]

Well I'm always skeptical of players that jump a few rounds at the Sr Bowl, but that would be one less team using a pick on a fat ass lineman before we come up...

[Langlier]

I'm hearing Kaepernick is blowing up as well. If he has good workouts (which I think he will)... He could and should jump Locker/Newton, Possibly Mallett/Gabbert based on interviews.

[NIPS]

Luke Stocker impressing bigtime-

Man- get this MF'er in rd 2 and lets lineup in a 2 TE set...

[NIPS]

Cook it up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUjpS7UV-vQ

[Langlier]

Cook it up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUjpS7UV-vQ

I'm a big fan of Luke's wanted him later then round 2 though. was hoping for 4

[DonkeyKilla]

I'd say BPA at C, G, RT, or OLB should be our 2nd round pick.

[007]

I had a dream last night we drafted John Moffitt and Danny Watkins back-to-back.

I can dig it.

[007]

Leonard Hankerson is going in the first round.

He is way more polished than I thought.

Nice route on the TD there.

[Crow]

I had a dream last night we drafted John Moffitt and Danny Watkins back-to-back.


And then you changed your shorts.

[Madturk]

How'd Brandon Fusco look 007? Just getting that funny feeling that we're drafting another corner with our first pick and then look for an OL later on.

[DonkeyKilla]

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/01/28/senior-bowl-stock-watch/

[007]

How'd Brandon Fusco look 007? Just getting that funny feeling that we're drafting another corner with our first pick and then look for an OL later on.

I wish I could lie and say I watched the OL a ton, but its really hard in bowl game/all star games.

I watched some tackles a bit, but honestly didnt see the interior guys that much.

I'll just have to read up on him, because he was apparently getting better as the week progressed.

Apparently O'Dowd had a much better game than practice week, Moffitt was rock solid too.

I watched Solder get abused a couple times. Carimi was injured just like that mammoth Florida tackle.

[Madturk]

Moffitt's star is really rising. Mayock has really been pimping him. Seems like more and more and more of these interior linemen are multi-faceted and can play pretty much anywhere on the line.

If we can come out of this draft with a guard and center, I'll be pretty stoked. We're pretty thin at center and no guarantee Satele will be back.

[DonkeyKilla]

Satele is under contract no? I agree we need upgrades and competition on the line. Need to bring back walker and gallery and upgrade cc and satelle

[hawaiianboy]

Satele >> Kris O'Dowd


I had a dream last night we drafted John Moffitt and Danny Watkins back-to-back.



Follow those two with a DT and off we go.... http://vgdistrict.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_fap.gif

[007]

The old Texas vs Nation game (New name now?) is on this week:

Here are the measurements:

NATION SQUAD (Pos, Name, Ht, Wt, Hand (L=Left, Arm, Wingspan)

DB Abdul-Quddus, Isa Fordham 6000 200 10.125 32 76.25

LS Adams, Corey Kansas State 6043 246 9 32.875 77.625

OLB Addison, Mario Troy 6025 245 9.375 33.625 80

DT Ajiboye, Ladi South Carolina 6016 293 9.875 34.125 79.125

DE Anthony, Christian Grambling State 6034 281 10.25 32.875 79.375

RB Berry, Damien Miami 5104 212 9.375 31.625 75.625

P/K Bosher, Matt Miami (FL) 6005 207 9.625 30.875 74.25

CB Brinkley, Niles Wisconsin 5096 190 9.25 30.125 72.875

CB Cuff, Vance Georgia 5102 171 9.625 31.25 74.875

OL Davis, Josh Georgia 6073 305 10.75 35.625 85.75

S DeCicco, Dominic Pittsburgh 6026 232 8.625 32.875 79

RB Draughn, Shaun North Carolina 5112 210 9.625 31 75.125

WR Durham, Kris Georgia 6052 214 9.125 31.625 77.125

DT Ellis, Kenrick Hampton 6050 336 10.375 34.75 82.625

QB Enderle, Nathan Idaho 6042 240 9.625 31 75.25

CB Gaitor, Anthony FIU 5097 175 10 30.25 73.5

OLB Gee, Michael Indiana (PA) 6004 239 8.875 32.875 77.5

DT Graves, John Virginia Tech 6033 278 9.75 31.5 77.5

TE Hardy, Daniel Idaho 6035 248 9.75 30.625 76.625

ILB Harvey, Mario Marshall 5112 250 9.75 32.875 76.75

OL Hendrickson, Peter Tulane 6076 310 10.25 33.75 82.375

WR Holmes, Andre Hillsdale 6045 209 8.5 34 74

OLB Hunter, Jeremiha Iowa 6006 239 9.375 31.625 75.75

OL Johnson, Carl Florida 6052 353 9.875 35.375 85.125

WR Johnson-Koulianos, Derrell Iowa 5116 204 9.5 32 75.25

DT Kearse, Frank Alabama A&M 6041 311 10.75 34.75 84.75

OL Kilgore, Daniel Appalachian State 6033 304 9.875 35.375 85.125

OL King, Jarriel South Carolina 6052 310 10 35.5 86

S Legree, Mark Appalachian State 6000 211 8.75 30.5 72.625

DE Levingston, Lazarius LSU 6035 288 10.375 32.75 79.5

DE Marshall, Craig South Florida 6045 276 9.25 32.25 81

CB Maxwell, Byron Clemson 6006 207 9.125 32.625 76.875

WR Morgan, Joe Walsh 6005 185 8.5 30.875 74.625

OLB Moten, Adrian Maryland 6015 225 9.375 31.5 77.25

RB Murphy, Richard LSU 6007 204 8.875 31 76.375

WR Newsome, Jamar Central Flordia 6005 198 8.875 33 77.25

DE Nurse, Clay Illinois 6026 259 9.625 34.125 81.25

TE Oordt, Schuylar Northern Iowa 6056 258 9.625 33.25 80.375

RB Payne, Keith Virginia 6022 257 10.75 32.5 78.25

OL Porter, Curt Jacksonville State 6070 308 9.75 34 82.25

K Rogers, Jacob Cincinnati 6022 215 9.5 31.125 76.5

WR Sanders, Jock West Virginia 5063 174 8.875 28.375 68.5

TE Smith, Andre Virginia Tech 6044 269 10.125 34.75 82.375

ILB Smith, D.J. Appalachian State 5106 237 9.75 31.25 75.75

OT Smith, Willie East Carolina 6047 305 11 33.75 81

WR Spencer, Owen North Carolina State 6024 191 9.625 33.125 77.625

FB Taylor, Ryan North Carolina 6033 250 10.125 33.125 77.625

OL Taylor, Zane Utah 6024 313 10 32 77.75

OLB Thomas, J.T. West Virginia 6012 236 9.25 30.75 74.25

OL Thorson, Brad Kansas 6040 301 10 32.25 79.25

CB Torrence, Devon Ohio State 5115 190 8.75 29.75 70.625

QB Van Camp, Jeff Florida Atlantic 6052 209 10 32.5 78.75

S Walters, Anthony Delaware 6000 201 9.5 32 77.25

QB Yates, T.J. North Carolina 6035 221 10.125 32.25 75.75

OT Young, D.J. Michigan State 6047 307 9.75 35.125 83.875



TEXAS Squad (Pos, Name, Ht, Wt, Hand (L=Left, Arm, Wingspan)

WR Adams, Kris UTEP 6034 194 10 L 34 80

OL Allen, Matt Texas A&M 6025 279 10 L 33.25 79.5

ILB Baptiste, Tressor Texas A&M Kingsville 6001 235 8.75 31.125 75.375

OL Barnes, Tim Missouri 6036 297 10 32.875 78.25

FB Bartlett, Bubba Carroll - MT 6007 238 10 31 74

OL Bell, Byron New Mexico 6052 348 10.5 32.75 81

DT Bryant, Corbin Northwestern 6041 302 9.25 32.25 76.25

WR Burton, Stephen West Texas A&M 6016 219 8.875 31.5 74.875

DE Chinasa, Ugo Oklahoma State 6051 254 9.875 35.5 85.25

QB Colburn, Ryan Fresno State 6030 218 9.25 29.5 73.5

DE Daniels, Wayne TCU 6006 257 10 32.5 78.375

OLB Davie, Quentin Northwestern 6043 238 9.75 33.75 80

DE Davis, Roberto NW Missouri State 6022 247 10 32.75 78.375

OL Dominguez, Ray Arkansas 6042 340 9.5 33 80.875

OLB Duncan, Brian Texas Tech 6003 237 9.25 30.75 74.25

P Epperson, Derek Baylor 6032 237 9.125 32.25 77.875

RB Fannin, Mario Auburn 5105 225 9.375 30.875 74.25

RB Finley, Jay Baylor 5107 198 9.25 32.625 76.5

LS Flaherty, Harry Princeton 6026 242 10.25 32.875 78.5

DB Gatlin, Josh North Dakota State 6003 195 8.75 30.875 74.125

TE Graham, Cameron Louisville 6031 240 9 3/8 L 30.875 75.5

CB Hagan, Darian Cal 5113 178 8.875 31.875 75.625

WR Harris, Marcus Murray State 6007 187 9.25 31.25 75

TE Housler, Robert Florida Atlantic 6054 249 9.5 34.375 80.875

OL Hughes, Kevin SE Louisiana 6037 297 9.375 33.5 80.5

FB Hughes, Robert Notre Dame 5110 233 10 1/4 L 32 75.375

DE Jones, Eddie Texas 6022 258 10.25 32.875 79

CB Jones, Ryan NW Missouri State 5111 197 8.625 30.75 72.375

OLB Lattimore, Jamari Middle Tennessee State 6020 218 10.75 33.125 79.875

WR Lockette, Ricardo Fort Valley State 6021 207 9.875 33.5 79

DT Lumpkin, Ricky Kentucky 6034 308 8.875 31.875 77.625

WR Matthews, Chris Kentucky 6050 224 9.75 33.625 80.625

WR Moore, Denarius Tennessee 6000 191 9.25 32.5 77.25

OL Newton, Derek Arkansas State 6050 311 9.125 31.875 77.625

DT Patterson, Lucas Texas A&M 6041 290 9.625 30.75 77.125

OLB Paysinger, Spencer Oregon 6026 230 9 32.25 76

OL Person, Mike Montana State 6047 296 9.375 31.875 77.875

QB Portis, Josh California (PA) 6031 209 9.75 33.5 79.875

QB Potts, Taylor Texas Tech 6040 220 9.75 32.875 80.25

DT Powe, Jerrell Mississippi 6020 331 9.625 33.125 78

S Prosinski, Chris Wyoming 6012 205 9.625 29.875 72.25

CB Rembert, Reggie Air Force 5073 180 9.375 29.75 70.375

S Rolle, Maurice Lousiana-Lafayette 6002 189 8.625 32.625 76.625

WR Ross, Jeremy California 5117 212 9.125 30.75 74.25

CB Rutland, Kevin MIssouri 5117 191 8.5 30.875 72.625

TE Skelton, Stephen Fordham 6046 247 10 32.25 77.75

CB Skrine, Buster Tennessee-Chattanooga 5095 186 8.625 30.125 72.25

RB Spann, Chad Northern Illinois 5080 199 9 30 71.875

OL Stewart, Chris Notre Dame 6043 346 9.125 34 83.125

OL Thompson, Isaiah Houston 6035 300 9.125 32.75 77.25

OL Turner, Trevis Abilene Christian 6067 342 10.375 33.625 81.375

S Valai, Jay Wisconsin 5083 203 10.25 31.875 73.75

K Weber, Thomas Arizona State University 6004 200 9.875 31.375 75.375

DT Whitlock, Colby Texas Tech 6023 299 9 31.25 75.375
OLB Williams, Jabara Stephen F. Austin 6022 223 9.375 31.125 75.125

[007]

Guys of note:

Kenrick Ellis (Effin huge as advertised)

Jarrell Powe (Effin huge as advertised)

Ricardo Lockett (Probably the top small school WR)

Stephen Skelton (John's Brother)

OT Kurt Porter and OC Time Barnes are there.

[RaiderRobert]

Some pretty beefy Linemen playing in this game. Anybody know when the game is and if it is broadcasted nationally?

[Crow]

I had a dream last night we drafted John Moffitt and Danny Watkins back-to-back.

I can dig it.

Just realized that Watkins will be a 27yo rookie. That's gotta be a draft stock killer. Good news for teams that like him. Shouldn't go higher than 4th round.

[007]

Just realized that Watkins will be a 27yo rookie. That's gotta be a draft stock killer. Good news for teams that like him. Shouldn't go higher than 4th round.

I posted about that what? 10 days ago?

2 things combat that though:

a) He's only played football for 4 years so he's still "young" that way.

b) He plays guard. Gaurds can play until they are sixty.

FWIW: NFLDS has moved him into the first rd.

[Birdwell]

I'll have my eyes on Dom DiCicco, the big safety out of Pitt. If he can cover, he's ours.

[007]

He intrigued me because at his size I believe he played FS...

I bet he`s a 4.55 guy at best though, so no dice.

[007]

Can`t say Ive seen him, but Ugo Chinasa has the Al Davis measurables. Wow.

6-5 250, 35 inch arms, 85 inch wingspan. If he runs fast, he might be the guy to watch, LOL.

[Crow]

I posted about that what? 10 days ago?

You know I can't be readin' all this shit. :D

2 things combat that though:

a) He's only played football for 4 years so he's still "young" that way.

b) He plays guard. Gaurds can play until they are sixty.

Seems a bit of a stretch. The only upside to his age that I can see is that he'll be in his 30s when his rookie deal runs out. That's a negotiating chip that works against him and for the team.

FWIW: NFLDS has moved him into the first rd.

I'll bet you a ham sandwich that doesn't happen.

And, to keep things clear, I'm not dissing the player or his game at all. Just the fact that he's a little calendarally challenged.

[Birdwell]

He intrigued me because at his size I believe he played FS...

I bet he`s a 4.55 guy at best though, so no dice.

At his size 4.5-range is okay to challenge at SS. How fast is Branch now that he's bulked up? Sure lost his lateral quickness and hips.

[007]

At his size 4.5-range is okay to challenge at SS. How fast is Branch now that he's bulked up? Sure lost his lateral quickness and hips.

No idea what his speed is now, but he ran a 4.31 at the combine at 205 pounds.

[Madturk]

6 of the all time fastest 40 times at the combines were run by Raider draft picks or guys that played for us ( Y Figurs) :eek:

Our stinking luck that DHB blew out the 2nd fastest time ever and beat out Mike Wallace and Johnny Knox in 2009:mad:

[Birdwell]

6 of the all time fastest 40 times at the combines were run by Raider draft picks or guys that played for us ( Y Figurs) :eek:

Our stinking luck that DHB blew out the 2nd fastest time ever and beat out Mike Wallace and Johnny Knox in 2009:mad:

I get ragged on for a lot of things, one of them being on the quest for a deep threat of consequence since the retirement of James Jett. Pimped hard for the top WR picked in the '08 draft -- who also had the most productive WR rookie season (Donnie Avery out of Houston, sat out this season with a knee in St. Louis, so watch out what Bradford does with him next season). You can find my posts on Mike Wallace and Johnny Knox, and was really high on Knox.

Still, Mike Wallace was considered at best a 4th round pick, with college production at Mississippi that was several notches below DHB's production at Maryland. Knox, out of Abilene Christian (which also produced possibly the best LT prospect of that year in Tony Washington) was the guy with the biggest questions: absolutely beastly production, but in a relatively minor program in a competitive but lower second-tier talent league. I pegged him as worth a 3rd round pick, which is higher than most prognosticators.

Both guys had one thing going for them, though: they played a whole lot more football in their lives than DHB has. The kid has the work ethic -- let's see what happens. In the mean time, we have Jacoby Ford, who I'll take over Knox any day (because he's far more physical), and overall prefer to Wallace because he runs much better routes and if far more explosive out of sharp breaks.

[Langlier]

Kenrick Ellis is beasting on D.

[Sleet]

I get ragged on for a lot of things, one of them being on the quest for a deep threat of consequence since the retirement of James Jett. Pimped hard for the top WR picked in the '08 draft -- who also had the most productive WR rookie season (Donnie Avery out of Houston, sat out this season with a knee in St. Louis, so watch out what Bradford does with him next season). You can find my posts on Mike Wallace and Johnny Knox, and was really high on Knox.

Still, Mike Wallace was considered at best a 4th round pick, with college production at Mississippi that was several notches below DHB's production at Maryland. Knox, out of Abilene Christian (which also produced possibly the best LT prospect of that year in Tony Washington) was the guy with the biggest questions: absolutely beastly production, but in a relatively minor program in a competitive but lower second-tier talent league. I pegged him as worth a 3rd round pick, which is higher than most prognosticators.

Both guys had one thing going for them, though: they played a whole lot more football in their lives than DHB has. The kid has the work ethic -- let's see what happens. In the mean time, we have Jacoby Ford, who I'll take over Knox any day (because he's far more physical), and overall prefer to Wallace because he runs much better routes and if far more explosive out of sharp breaks.

Wallace had a lot of catches and a TD in the SB, but seemed very limited in what they had him do or could do with him: Hitch pass or go route. Still way ahead of DHB but I think I agree with you about Jacoby. Just loved how Jacoby fights for balls.