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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/EastWest-Shrine-game-notebook.html
Wes Bunting keeps all the info going pretty well.
Marvin Austin was 6-2 312 and pretty good looking. Sed Ellis style.
A top tier Canadian prospect this year:
Canadian who checked in at 6-10 340. Matthew O'Donnell.
http://www.queensu.ca/news/articles/football-player-take-part-prestigious-us-all-star-game
My cousin was an All Canadian at Queen's University. Its a solid program up norther here.
This guy isnt going to go Vaughn Martin early, but someone will take him in this draft.
6'10
Fairly large fella there. Could come in handy during those Raider/9er basketball games.
He's pretty evenly spaced. There are pics on Google.
LT in Canada, probably a RT if he gets a look in the NFL.
Looks like Toliver is clealy the top WR...
Terrence Toliver, WR, LSU:
Toliver looked like the best receiver on the East today without a doubt in my mind. I was high on him coming into practice, but only one pass thrown to him hit the ground that I saw. He dropped it but every other pass he caught easily. He seems to have pretty big hands, really long arms and he catches the ball well away from his body. Seemed to try to catch and turn too quickly on the one he dropped. His legs are really skinny though and he himself is skinny, and he doesn’t have much explosion out of his breaks to create separation. If he gets stronger in the lower body and works with a good receiver coach on that I think he could improve in that area, but it’s a concern for me at this point even though I love his hands.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/13682485
Chad Reuter/Rob Rang blog.
Good little tidbits there.
Dontay Moch checked in at 6-1 229.
Looks like he needs to put on 10 'combine pounds' in a hurry...
Jah Reid OL UCF
Tues: Big, monstrous right tackle that flashed. Struggled to adjust but showed some skills.
Wed: Slightly better than yesterday. Good job bending his knees for such a tall lineman. Works hands well. Strictly a strong-side blocker.
This guy intrigues the hell out of me.
Remember it was Veldheer getting the rave OL reviews last year for this game...
6-7 325.
Joseph Barksdale is another OL option who is pretty interesting.
Came to LSU as a DL, didnt want to get stuck behind Dorsey so he moved.
6-5 335 with long arms, good body, good athleticism and still learning the nuances...
hawaiianboy
01-19-2011, 01:31 PM
Sounds like there is very little chance that my boy Marvin Austin will be there for us at 2 with his showing so far...
Finally, Texas A&M quarterback Jerrod Johnson was measured with 35-inch arms — a really big number for an offensive lineman let alone a quarterback — which makes so much sense considering when you watch him on tape it takes him far too long to get the ball out of his hands and he really does posses a long wind up in his delivery. And with 35-inch arms it’s going to be tough to ever drastically tighten up his release because there is simply too much length to contend with.
6'5 with long ass arms... Future WR or TE?
Raidervinny
01-20-2011, 09:42 AM
Dontay Moch checked in at 6-1 229.
Looks like he needs to put on 10 'combine pounds' in a hurry...
Here's some more info on Moch...I hope he's there in round 3!
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Last year, O'Brien Schofield made a name for himself by switching from defensive end to linebacker. This year, Nevada's Dontay Moch is trying to do the same thing. And so far, so good.
Moch played defensive end in college, but he spent most of his time with linebackers here. He's a great athlete with good lateral quickness and elite speed for the position. He's doing all the little things right. While he's not picking up everything -- you can tell there are times he's unsure of himself and needs coaching on things, such as dropping in coverage and awareness of receivers crossing, he's going at it 100 percent.
A perfect example was the end of one-on-ones, they brought him down to serve as a rush linebacker against the offensive tackles. It was noticeable the increase in speed compared to the other rushers. He runs down the field from the LB drills, lines up, beats his guy, runs back to the line of scrimmage to do it again, beats his guys again with his hands and then runs back to the line of scrimmage and lines up to do it again -- until they call him off to have someone else do it.
He's working his tail off and that's the right mindset to have in this kind of situation. They aren't moving players around just for fun. It's because that's the position that gives the player the best chance of making it in the NFL. Moch knows that and is trying to sponge everything and show he can get better. The plus is that, realistically, the bar is set low. The scouts know he's working on a new position so there's a little wiggle room. But if he flashes skills and keeps improving, it is a big plus.
Last year, Schofield got an invite to go to the Senior Bowl after a strong performance here at the Shrine Game. It will be interesting to watch the Hoch's development throughout the week, but he's off to a good start.
Schofield even tore his knee up at the Senior Bowl and still got drafted in what? Round 5 or Round 3?
Moch is impressing people for sure.
Raidervinny
01-20-2011, 09:49 AM
Schofield even tore his knee up at the Senior Bowl and still got drafted in what? Round 5 or Round 3?
Moch is impressing people for sure.
Would love to get him to replace Groves.
I didnt want to post this nugget, thinking it might be my Lil Al sleeper pick coming in a few months early...
One small-school defensive back I am warming up to is Citadel corner Cortez Allen. He’s a tall, long-armed kid who is at his best up near the line of scrimmage where he does a nice job in press man. He was consistently able to get into the frame of opposing receivers, re-route them off the line and uses his length well to consistently get his hands on the football. Now, he is a high-cut defender who gets too upright too easily at times in coverage and does struggle to quickly get back up to speed out of his breaks and generate a good closing burst, giving up some separation initially. And he’s not an off corner by any stretch, as he needs to get his hands on receivers in order to be effective, but he did open my eyes yesterday as a possible press corner and is worth a later round pick, especially if he runs as well as many think he can
I think he's going 4 rounds earlier than people think if he blazes a 4.4 at the combine. 6-2 200 pound corners who are smooth in press man, don't come around very often...
Xplosive
01-20-2011, 01:56 PM
Looks like Toliver is clealy the top WR...
Terrance is a good player. he is a very decent receiver.
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Raider Nation
01-21-2011, 11:20 AM
Terrance is a good player. he is a very decent receiver.
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He doesn't have the speed Al covets, however, which probably makes him an unlikely target in the draft. I fully expect him to run a 4.5 or 4.6 at the Combine. Think of a slightly slower version of Dwyane Bowe. I'd take him in round 2 myself, but he just doesn't fit the Al Davis mold of WR.
How come the East-West Shrine Game Preview Show was all about Bears/Packers? Fucking lame.
Mayock pimping the DTs in this game early. Handy.
hawaiianboy
01-22-2011, 01:30 PM
Can't find a stream for the game... Hope my boy Marvin Austin doesn't play his way out of our draft spot...
I expect there's enough bad tape out there to where Al could get your boy in the 3rd round or so.
hawaiianboy
01-22-2011, 02:45 PM
McShay13 Todd McShay
Guys having good games so far at EW Shrine game: Syr RB Carter, UNC DT M. Austin, Idaho QB N. Enderle, UGA LB A. Dent
Delone Carter has a prototype body.
He's like 5-9 220 or so and legs like tree trunks.
Apparently he was head and shoulders above the other guys all week, and its continued in the game.
He could be there late in the draft. A nice versatile RB prospect...
I have it recorded on NFLN.
Will post some thoughts after too.
Marvin Austin beasting in Q3.
Penetration one play, catches a guy on a swing pass the next...
Mind you, the West CANNOT BLOCK anyone.
Did the punter just make the play of the game?
Donahue wrangles in an errant snap, spins right and kicks the nicest 22 yard punt in football history.
I would say two of the best guys on the West have been the Hawaii guys.
Alex Green (6-0 220) showing burst, versatility and Letuli the RT is a mauler. Looks like he'll be a gaurd though, I would figure...
Austin just blew up the interior OL again on 3rd down.
He shouldnt be here. He's head and shoulders better than everyone else. Maybe he takes Clayborns spot at the Senior Bowl. That pussy backed out today.
The 6-10 Canadian has given up about a thousand sacks.
Devlin and Jerrod Johnson trade picks in back-to-back plays, and then Delone Carter decides to go into beast mode.
Austin needs a great offseason. Red flags and question marks don't go away easily.
Syracuse RB Delone Carter rushed for 54 yards and a touchdown on 11 carries and caught a three-yard pass as the East defeated the West squad 25-8 in Saturday's East-West Shrine Game.
Other standout performers were Texas TE Greg Smith (4-77) and Penn State RB Evan Royster (9-38-1) in the East's domination.
Quarterbacks on both sides were thoroughly unimpressive, particularly heralded Delaware QB Pat Devlin. The former Penn State transfer completed just 2-of-7 passes for 22 yards and an interception.
Carter, who's drawn optimistic comparisons to Maurice Jones-Drew, scored the first touchdown of the contest and had five plays of six or more yards. He's a third- to fourth-round prospect.
Austin needs a great offseason. Red flags and question marks don't go away easily.
I think he's off to a good start.
Great week of practice, big E-W game and onto the next event.
As far as his flags, I think he just took some money, no?
Birdwell
01-27-2011, 04:59 PM
This guy intrigues the hell out of me.
Remember it was Veldheer getting the rave OL reviews last year for this game...
6-7 325.
Yeah, I do remember that.
Interesting thing about his program is that the UCF staff is generally really good at fundamentals, and you don't see many bone-headed/head-scratching physical or basic mental moves by that team. At the same time, I've never seen them really coach a guy up to the higher level. That alone would make him a good late 3rd round any time 4th round prospect. (Veldheer was super solid fiundamentally, and also had a nuanced game and a mean streak).
I've seen UCF play as much as I watched Hillsdale College, so I have no idea if he's any good, how his fundamentals are etc.
His size and apparent athleticism is nice though.
The newly name changed, Texas vs Nation game is in a week too, so hopefully more sleepers will be there.
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