Ryan Mallet

[Langlier]

For all this Gabbert and Newton talk... the guy who is falling but yet the best of the 4 "first round" QBs is Mallet. I've seen a lot of mocks knocking him into the 2nd round.

If he's there he should be our pick. No questions asked. He isn't andrew luck and his biggest knock? People think he's a prick. I could care less if he's a prick. Rivers is a prick. Ben is a prick. Brady is a prick. Cutler is a prick. If being a prick is his only knock... I'll take it.

[Birdwell]

I dunno about that Lang. I'd sure knock Mallet's mobility. Reminds me something of Drew Bledsoe. Behind a truly dominant O-line, maybe. All those prick QBs you mention are mobile enough to be very good outside the pocket. Don't think the same thing can be said for Mallet.

However, he is big, he is reasonably accurate, and has a huge arm. I'd take him over Gabbert or Newton for sure, because I'm not confident in those two transitioning to throwing against NFL Ds. Maybe he can be taught or convinced to do more than be a pure pocket passer (i.e., sitting duck). Or maybe the offensive brain trust will be convinced they can triple the speed at which Colin Kaepernick releases the ball.

[Welsh Raider]

Really? A QB?

Last year we focussed on building the bullying lines we needed on both sides of the ball. Seems to me we need to finish that job first.

We're missing a third DE. And a guard.

[Langlier]

I agree that his mobility isn't in the same league as a lot of QBs out there. But I don't think he's immobile. Just doesnt need to be

[Langlier]

Really? A QB?

Last year we focussed on building the bullying lines we needed on both sides of the ball. Seems to me we need to finish that job first.

We're missing a third DE. And a guard.

no disagreements. But you don't pass up on a potential franchise QB for a backup DE or an interior lineman. and if Bruce is ready we don't even need a guard (depending on FA)

[Langlier]

I agree that his mobility isn't in the same league as a lot of QBs out there. But I don't think he's immobile. Just doesnt need to be

and looking at some videos. Mobility is FINE. footwork.. could use some work.

[Crow]

no disagreements. But you don't pass up on a potential franchise QB for a backup DE or an interior lineman. and if Bruce is ready we don't even need a guard (depending on FA)

If he falls to the middle of Rd2, this "potential franchise QB" argument...which is ridiculous 9 times out of 10 anyway...really has no merit at all.

[007]

Not a chance I touch him.

"Primadonna"

"Has an arrogance to him"

"Some question his attitude"

No chance in hell I take a guy with off field flags early.

[Langlier]

If he falls to the middle of Rd2, this "potential franchise QB" argument...which is ridiculous 9 times out of 10 anyway...really has no merit at all.

if he falls to the end of round 1/middle of round 2 - it's because people have fallen in love with the athleticism of gabbert and newton and someone stupidly took locker over him.

I take Mallett over any of those guy's 10/10 times. He's got attitude issues but not coachability issues. He certainly doesn't have motivational issues like our last drafted QB not to be named.

[007]

Weird.

I take all three over Mallett 10/10 times.

Jamarcus V2.0

And Gabbert didnt 'climb' over Mallet. He was always a top tier prospect, but he wasnt expected to come out this year.

A lot can change in 3 months though.

[Crow]

I just don't see a QB I'd drop a #1 pick on this year, personally. I didn't catch any Missouri games, so I can't speak on Gabbert. But with regards to Newton, Locker, and Mallett...pass.

[Langlier]

I just don't see a QB I'd drop a #1 pick on this year, personally. I didn't catch any Missouri games, so I can't speak on Gabbert. But with regards to Newton, Locker, and Mallett...pass.

it's a good thing we're stuck with a #2!

[Crow]

I'd take a guard or center over the QBs likely to be within reach of that pick.

[Crow]

Gimme Andy Dalton in the middle rounds and some big fat guys before and after him.

[Langlier]

Gimme Andy Dalton in the middle rounds and some big fat guys before and after him.

I actually agree with you on Dalton. Just saying if Mallett is in our range... He'd be a great pick for us.

[Byron2112]

I'd prefer a stud O-lineman with our first pick if he's there... if not stud D-line.

[007]

This is why your an idiot if you draft Ryan Mallett.

http://nfldraftmonsters.com/news/character-concern-ryan-mallett/


We were approached this week, by a source inside the Arkansas program who told us the he has personally witnessed Mallett use both marijuana, and cocaine. This corroborates an account given to us a few months back, that we had been unable to substantiate.

Both sources spoke on the condition of anonymity, and NFL Draft Monsters has a policy of not compensating sources in any way for stories.


Coke, weed, multiple stories, etc. etc.

[Langlier]

This is why your an idiot if you draft Ryan Mallett.

http://nfldraftmonsters.com/news/character-concern-ryan-mallett/



Coke, weed, multiple stories, etc. etc.

if true - bump him way down my board. but I don't know how much to believe. I know the guy absolutely has pissed a lot of people off personally - which means a lot of stories like this could be flat made up.

[BigTron]

This is why your an idiot if you draft Ryan Mallett.

http://nfldraftmonsters.com/news/character-concern-ryan-mallett/



Coke, weed, multiple stories, etc. etc.

As a Michigan fan who has followed his career... no thanks. Big arm. Thats it.

I wish i had photoshop skills. Can someone make me a Ryan Mullet poster hahah

[007]

Sounds like Mallett came across as a huge -.

http://twitter.com/TheBlueScreen/statuses/41596133214126080

Quote:
The reviews of Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett's media session are not kind. Writers comparing him to Ryan Leaf -- and not in a good way. #NFL


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http://twitter.com/realfreemancbs/status/41595182394642432


Quote:
Freeman at the Combine: Ryan Mallett met with the media. Came across as a stone, cold punk.


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http://twitter.com/WesBunting/status/41593396455944192


Quote:
Don't trust #Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett...end of story, guy rubs me the wrong way and he wouldn't be on my draft board. Period. #NFLDRAFT

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http://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/41594734984044544


Quote:
Mallett on where drug rumors started: "When I saw that stuff, I laughed about it." Yeah, that's a mature response.


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http://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/41595443758497792


Quote:
How do you respond to accuracy/decision-making questions: "7,000-plus yards and 60 touchdowns in two seasons. That’s how I respond to that."


LOL

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/27669987


Quote:
The Ryan Mallett press conference was one of those scenarios where everyone in the room is eventually looking at each other with wide eyes that seem to say, “Ehhhhhh…..there’s something not right about this guy”. Obviously, it’s pure speculation.


Mallett was immediately asked about the drug abuse allegations (“Wow, first question, huh?” he said.) He wouldn’t discuss it but did acknowledge that the timing of these reports was not a coincidence.

Mallett said he could throw the ball 80 yards and touted his collegiate numbers when asked one of those “prove it” questions. With proper body language, it would have been confidence speaking. But from Mallett, it unfortunately seemed more like arrogance.

All in all, the buzz around the media center is that Mallett’s content wasn’t great and his delivery was even worse. Mallett has one of those clichéd chips on his shoulder, but not the kind of chip that could one day inspire him. More like the kind of chip that makes a group of reporters decide there’s just something they don’t like about you

[Sleet]

Sounds like Mallett came across as a huge -.

http://twitter.com/TheBlueScreen/statuses/41596133214126080



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http://twitter.com/realfreemancbs/status/41595182394642432



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http://twitter.com/WesBunting/status/41593396455944192


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http://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/41594734984044544



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http://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/41595443758497792



LOL

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/27669987



Mallett was immediately asked about the drug abuse allegations (“Wow, first question, huh?” he said.) He wouldn’t discuss it but did acknowledge that the timing of these reports was not a coincidence.

Mallett said he could throw the ball 80 yards and touted his collegiate numbers when asked one of those “prove it” questions. With proper body language, it would have been confidence speaking. But from Mallett, it unfortunately seemed more like arrogance.

All in all, the buzz around the media center is that Mallett’s content wasn’t great and his delivery was even worse. Mallett has one of those clichéd chips on his shoulder, but not the kind of chip that could one day inspire him. More like the kind of chip that makes a group of reporters decide there’s just something they don’t like about you

He's begging for a 4th, where a GM can justify the risk.

But, who knows, it only takes one.

[RaiderRobert]

stick a fork in this guy...

[Sleet]

McShay pimpin' Mallet to the Raiders at #48:

Oakland Raiders

Should the Raiders take a quarterback in the early rounds?

“They have other needs, but if there is a guy like [Nevada’s] Colin Kaepernick is there in the third round, that could be a good fit. He has a big arm that the Raiders like. [TCU’s] Andy Dalton isn’t a perfect fit because of his arm, but it’s good enough. He could be a fit in the third round. I tell you what, [Arkansas’] Ryan Mallett could easily fall all the way down to No. 48. Oakland would have to think about it. He has the big arm. He is a risk, but he is an incredible value at No. 48.”

[007]

Man can he fling the ball.

I could see us thinking about it, but really...Wouldnt you rather take an OL there and try to develop a later QB like Ponder/Dalton/Stanzi/Portis a little later on?

I like the QB class quite a bit this year. Five guys or so that I could be fine drafting...

[Byron2112]

You know, I watched some highlights of Mallett, and I thought I'd heard people talk like was a statue or something, but he was doing alotta roll outs and play action, and the guy looked pretty damn athletic to me... especially considering what a big bastard he is...

[Sleet]

Man can he fling the ball.

I could see us thinking about it, but really...Wouldnt you rather take an OL there and try to develop a later QB like Ponder/Dalton/Stanzi/Portis a little later on?

I like the QB class quite a bit this year. Five guys or so that I could be fine drafting...

I want an OL, no doubt, with the #42 pick. I expect a fast CB in the 3rd and perhaps a C or OLB in the 4th.

At #42, I'm rooting for the "Dancing Bear," as Mayock called Marcus Cannon, assuming he projects well as an OG in Hue's power system (I've read he has difficulty picking up blitz assignments, but you'd think he should be able to move the pile as an OG weighing in at 358 lbs, and most of that in his legs).

But, if you had to compare value, I've got to think you take Mallet and trade next year's 1st or a package of picks to get back into the 2nd round to land an potential starting OL, whether little Wiz or the Dancing Bear.

[RaiderJF]

I'd have no problem with Cannon in round 2 though he would seem to be better suited for RT than interior. I guess a lot hinges on what Hue plans to do with B Campbell who also seems to be better suited to play tackle than RG...

[godeep811]

Mallett will not drop to the Raiders in the 2nd round. Not after his impressive performance today. Too many teams have a hole at QB

[doingthisinsteadofwork]

Man can he fling the ball.

I could see us thinking about it, but really...Wouldnt you rather take an OL there and try to develop a later QB like Ponder/Dalton/Stanzi/Portis a little later on?

I like the QB class quite a bit this year. Five guys or so that I could be fine drafting...

I'm in complete agreement. I'm a huge fan of Ponder he's got everything upstairs that it will take to be a great QB.He reminds me of Gannon a little. His arm is good just not Al Davis good.

[007]

Yeah Ponder has grown on me, Jack would be proud.

Mallett is a pick I wouldnt be pissed off about if it happens, but I really want OL there.

Davon House came in at 6-0 200 pounds, Jimmy Smith 6-2 210, Ras-I Dowling 6-1 200 so there are CB's there that fit what Al likes if we go that route...

[Crow]

Taking Mallett before comp picks start coming up would be a colossal fuck up for whatever team takes him.

I'll drop a 5 on him. Best I can do.

[TheMadStork]

On the plus side, cocaine would help him stay awake in team meetings, as opposed to sizzurp.

[Crow]

Valid.

[DarthRaidor]

Mallett= Marinovich part 2.

[Langlier]

Yeah Ponder has grown on me, Jack would be proud.

Mallett is a pick I wouldnt be pissed off about if it happens, but I really want OL there.

Davon House came in at 6-0 200 pounds, Jimmy Smith 6-2 210, Ras-I Dowling 6-1 200 so there are CB's there that fit what Al likes if we go that route...

Can't see Al drafting a kid like Ponder.

Mallet or Kaepernick possibly. Maybe even Newton or Locker.

[Sleet]

Kaepernick possibly.

Kaeper had a big arm, but did you notice how far back he loaded the ball? Threw like a baseball pitcher. A fast DE will knock the ball out from behind time and again just on his 1st NFL start. :eek:

[007]

Can't see Al drafting a kid like Ponder.

Mallet or Kaepernick possibly. Maybe even Newton or Locker.

Great insight for sure, but I didnt say Al likes him, I said "I" like him.

There are first round whispers going around right now with Ponder, so we might not get a chance either way.

[BigTron]

On the plus side, cocaine would help him stay awake in team meetings, as opposed to sizzurp.

Thats some upside!

[Raidermania12]

Mallett= Marinovich part 2.
Financially cheaper pay scale wise if he falls to us and less issues in cutting him loose if he does flame out. I think Mallett has Tiger's Blood, so I doubt he falls to us.

[RaiderJF]

Mallett= Marinovich part 2.

perhaps from the neck up the comparison may be valid... outside of that, not so much...

[TheMadStork]

perhaps from the neck up the comparison may be valid... outside of that, not so much...

Correct. Marinovich had a marginal arm. Mallet has a much better arm and would be a mid to high 1st rounder if he had his head on straight.

[Madturk]

Honestly how many guys have actually succeeded as NFL QB's with obvious off field issues coming into the draft, probably not many? I think character and work ethic has to be rated equally with physical ability when it comes to evaluating NFL QB talent. Someone obviosuly was alseep at the wheel with JDummy.

[RaiderJF]

Honestly how many guys have actually succeeded as NFL QB's with obvious off field issues coming into the draft, probably not many? I think character and work ethic has to be rated equally with physical ability when it comes to evaluating NFL QB talent. Someone obviosuly was alseep at the wheel with JDummy.

Al's never been much for evaluating from the neck up... it's always been about raw physical tools no matter what the position. If character, work ethic, leadership, brains had any weight in Al's QB equation, he wouldn't have brought Jeff George back here a dozen times...

[Sleet]

Al's never been much for evaluating from the neck up... it's always been about raw physical tools no matter what the position. If character, work ethic, leadership, brains had any weight in Al's QB equation, he wouldn't have brought Jeff George back here a dozen times...

That's one reason why Al's draft last year was so surprising, and, perhaps, so successful. Al, for once, drafted football players, not just athletes.

Al still got his athletes, but avoided knuckles heads. And he got his athletes at better prices (Campbell and Ford in the 4th).

[RaiderJF]

That's one reason why Al's draft last year was so surprising, and, perhaps, so successful. Al, for once, drafted football players, not just athletes.

Al still got his athletes, but avoided knuckles heads. And he got his athletes at better prices (Campbell and Ford in the 4th).

We will all hope that this is the beginning of a trend and not a one year aberration...

[Birdwell]

Honestly how many guys have actually succeeded as NFL QB's with obvious off field issues coming into the draft, probably not many? I think character and work ethic has to be rated equally with physical ability when it comes to evaluating NFL QB talent. Someone obviosuly was alseep at the wheel with JDummy.

Dan Marino fell because of dug rumors. In no way do I think Mallet has the potential to be anything like Marino, or for sure not as a rookie. Asshole Warren Sapp (who took a jibe at Al Davis at the combine) also fell because of drug and character issues. Randy Moss fell for the same reasons that four teams have released/traded/failed to resign him. Off the top of my head.

Chester McGlockton only was available to us where we picked because of concerns over his work ethic. And the beat goes on.

Still want nothing to do with Mallet before the 3rd round, at the earliest.

[NIPS]

Man we have yet to air out the Russell stank

We aint got time to develop a QB the next 2 years.

Roll with Lionel and use that 48th on a TE or a guard

[Postmaster]

Man we have yet to air out the Russell stank

We aint got time to develop a QB the next 2 years.

Roll with Lionel and use that 48th on a TE or a guard

TE? Why?

[NIPS]

TE? Why?

Because it opens up so many more possiblities on offense

Lub seeing Luke and Zach bookend on a 2 set, much like the Cowboys use

Thats right ladies... cook it up

[Postmaster]

Because it opens up so many more possiblities on offense

Lub seeing Luke and Zach bookend on a 2 set...

Thats right ladies... cook it up

Does it help with pass pro? If Lionel can't get the ball off who cares how many TE's are running down the field?

[NIPS]

Does it help with pass pro? If Lionel can't get the ball off who cares how many TE's are running down the field?

Were simply not on the same page here

[Postmaster]

Were simply not on the same page here

You lost me at "Toby".