View Full Version : Andrew Luck Jihad Extraordinaire
CrossBones
11-22-2010, 08:44 AM
Andrew Luck- QB- Stanford
6-4 235lbs Sophomore
Pros:
I am not sure if I can remember a redshirt Sophomore getting so much NFL Draft attention but Andrew Luck is gliding along on the hype train. Some draft experts are proclaiming Luck the next Peyton Manning and have settled with Luck being their top prospect. When you watch Luck there is a lot to like about the 6-4 quarterback prospect. The thing that impressed me the most was his poise and pocket awareness. Luck seemed unflappable in what was a pressure situation during this first season as a full time starter. Luck makes quick and smart decisions which is an obvious result of the tutelage from Coach Jim Harbaugh. Luck’s technique is exceptional with great footwork and no wasted motion in his throwing delivery. He gets the ball out quickly which is a very important skill to have in the NFL. Luck combines his technical skills with a strong arm and good accuracy. While watching some film I noticed that Luck is very accurate while on the run and rolling out of the pocket, which are two things he will be expected to do in the NFL.
Cons:
It is really hard to find many flaws in Luck’s game. He has all the physical tools coupled with the proper techniques. ***However, there is such a small sampling and he needs to prove he can maintain his high level of play over a longer stretch. It’s a known fact that quarterbacks need game experience to develop properly. They need to be able to encounter different defensive packages and schemes, so this will be something weighing on the minds of NFL scouts and GMs. Something else that is going to be closely watched this season is the way Luck responds after losing Heisman candidate Toby Gerhart. There is going to be a lot more pressure placed on the shoulders of Luck.
***This analysis was done on June 30, 2010....he's getting better and better with each passing game.
Al wanted to trade three #1's for the rights to John Elway. We'd have had 8-10 Super Bowl wins if that had happened. Would the Dark Lord take a page out of the past and try it again? I think he might. :D
BigTron
11-22-2010, 08:46 AM
Him and Harbaugh can come here, in 2012. One more year of Curly and Hue and no 1st rounder.
fade2black24
12-01-2010, 05:25 PM
Do it.
Yes
The draft classes are so deep now its not as important to have first round picks
We generally draft like shit in the 1st round anyways.
Potentially great Qb's are hard to come by
celticraider
12-01-2010, 05:31 PM
Love to see it, but it's not going to happen.
Langlier
12-01-2010, 05:44 PM
I'm on this Jihad. I may spearhead it.
CrossBones
12-01-2010, 06:32 PM
The fact we don't have a 1st this year makes it more un likely than maybe it was in 1983 when Al tried to get Elway. Plus Carolina is such a mess it would be hard for them to pass on a talent like Luck. Their fan base might go completely over the edge.
RaiderRobert
12-01-2010, 10:13 PM
Gonna be a lot of QB's going in this next draft. SF, SEA, AZ, CLE, CAR, MIN, TENN, MIA all have shit for QB's, just like us.
TheMadStork
12-02-2010, 12:32 PM
The fact we don't have a 1st this year makes it more un likely than maybe it was in 1983 when Al tried to get Elway. Plus Carolina is such a mess it would be hard for them to pass on a talent like Luck. Their fan base might go completely over the edge.
But...but...but...Carolina already has Jimmy Clausen! Why would they ever need another QB???
CrossBones
12-02-2010, 02:15 PM
But...but...but...Carolina already has Jimmy Clausen! Why would they ever need another QB???Just watch Calusen this Sunday in Seattle. That will end the discussion.
Birdwell
12-02-2010, 02:23 PM
Sign me on.
A guy with a quick release, accuracy AND a big arm?
Gimmegimmegimmehimme. GIMME!
And I'd love the kid to not HAVE to start as a first week rookie.
CrossBones
12-02-2010, 02:32 PM
Aaaaah...the pipe dream is gaining momentum. :D
hawaiianboy
12-02-2010, 05:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caiH7yAAJTs
Saw him play "LIVE" at Cal-Berkeley a couple of weeks ago.
He was nothing less than "magic"... He made me wish I had seats in the Stanford section. ;)
celticraider
12-02-2010, 11:08 PM
There is no doubt I would cut off one of my fingers to this guy, but without a 1st rounder this season it doesn't look promising.
TheMadStork
12-03-2010, 08:07 AM
Just watch Calusen this Sunday in Seattle. That will end the discussion.
Geez, Bones, that was supposed to be funny. Should I have added a <sarcasm> tag to that post?
CrossBones
12-03-2010, 05:20 PM
***BUMP***
Anybody get any replies to letters emails/billboards to Al Davis on this subject? Just wondering. My email to Al was returned as "undeliverable". I wonder if I sent X a private message about this idea if he'd print it out and show it to Al? :p
Yo X...what say you bro? :eek:
hawaiianboy
12-03-2010, 06:06 PM
A team that is drafting high is going to want some immediate help in exchange on top of many future picks... Knowing that, we're probably better off if the Bills get the pick than Carolina because the Panthers have a pretty good roster... If the Bills like Fitzpatrick enough, they may take someone who could fill their LT spot (Veldheer) or maybe McClain to team with Posluszny at ILB if they still want to play that 34...
Al would probably have to make a deal with someone to get a first back this year... Maybe get our 1st back from the Pats since they have two #1's and then trade that + future picks to whoever...
I dunno, a scenario might include:
* Trade McFadden + our 2nd for the Pats higher first (unless they are willing to take on Nnams added salary, I don't know what else they are lacking)
* Trade Veldheer + the 1st from the Pats + our 2011 3rd + our 2012 1st + our 2013 1st to Buffalo for their 2010 first...
http://www.djtunes.com/public/images/shop30/release/66/215/keep-hope-alive-blaze-presents-underground-dance-artists-united-for-life_l.jpg
In other words, it'll take a lot... :(
celticraider
12-04-2010, 01:02 PM
* Trade McFadden ...
http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/1063867_o.gif
Madturk
12-04-2010, 02:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caiH7yAAJTs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XMr3QO2Sbc&feature=related
CrossBones
12-08-2010, 03:17 PM
Dan Fouts on ESPN radio this afternoon floating the Andrew Luck/Jim Harbarugh "package" to 49ers angle. Asked what Fouts thought it would take to make such a deal he danced and said "everything is negotiable".
FML.
Madturk
12-08-2010, 04:18 PM
That would really suck
CrossBones
12-09-2010, 07:44 AM
That would really suckPoint is the idea of a package deal wasn't lost on other people. It makes all sorts of sense if there are trading partners. A long shot? Yes. Impossible? No.
Without a first rounder and picking 32nd in the second round it will be really tough...
;)
CrossBones
12-09-2010, 02:38 PM
Without a first rounder and picking 32nd in the second round it will be really tough...
;)</dream_ovah>
:cry:
hawaiianboy
12-09-2010, 03:51 PM
Without a first rounder and picking 32nd in the second round it will be really tough...
;)
Come on man, don't doubt the dream... Bones is so cute when he's hopeful... He's almost as enthusiastic about this lost cause as he was when he thought rubbing Preparation H on his head would help his hair grow back...
TheMadStork
12-10-2010, 06:24 AM
Come on man, don't doubt the dream... Bones is so cute when he's hopeful... He's almost as enthusiastic about this lost cause as he was when he thought rubbing Preparation H on his head would help his hair grow back...
That doesn't work??? Damn, I wasted a lot of money...
CrossBones
12-12-2010, 09:46 AM
***BUMP***
Gimme.
hawaiianboy
12-14-2010, 01:59 PM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0flG1ABdjk7lk/350x.jpg
I'm officially scared.
Denver plays Houston and SD and sits at 3 wins...
Carolina plays Atlanta and Pittsburgh and has 2 wins. Both teams could be resting starters for the final games.
Denver has as good a shot at their next John Elway as anyone.
Cincy plays Baltimore and San Diego. Perfect spoiler games, and I expect them to get 1 more win.
If he becomes a Bronco, I will kill somebody. Luck is such a stud...
CrossBones
12-20-2010, 11:40 AM
That would truly suck...
San Diego: Rivers
Kansas City: Cassell
Denver: Luck
Oakland: Dummy
Wow...Let's hope that doesn't happen.
That scenario is knocking on our doorstep bro.
Think about if all this Cam Newton hype keeps up and Carolina takes him #1 overall, leaving Denver with Luck.
I'm not liking this situation at all...
RaiderRobert
12-20-2010, 11:53 AM
All the ballwashing on Teabag from the talking heads makes me believe Denver will roll with him, and keep Orton as their #2... Denver has some serious needs in working on their Defense, their RB's are garbage, they need a TE too. As long as Teabag doesn't falter too much, he is their QB of the future...
hawaiianboy
12-20-2010, 11:57 AM
That scenario is knocking on our doorstep bro.
Think about if all this Cam Newton hype keeps up and Carolina takes him #1 overall, leaving Denver with Luck.
I'm not liking this situation at all...
That would truly suck...
San Diego: Rivers
Kansas City: Cassell
Denver: Luck
Oakland: Dummy
Wow...Let's hope that doesn't happen.
Too bad you two dumbasses didn't figure this out YESTERDAY (http://www.blackreign.net/forums/showpost.php?p=203599&postcount=532)...
If Elway is moved into the front office spot as rumored, ya think he just might push for the kid playing for his alma mater?
Repeat after me... Tebow looked good, there is no need to replace him...
Dumbasses
Jesus, I would take some time out to stroke your ego, if you took a break once in a while...
;)
CrossBones
12-20-2010, 12:21 PM
I like Teabag. He done (sic) good yesterday. He's just getting started. Fuck a buncha Andrew Luck.
:banghead:
hawaiianboy
12-20-2010, 12:39 PM
Jesus, I would take some time out to stroke your ego, if you took a break once in a while...
;)
That's like asking Jessica Alba to take time off from being sexay... It just ain't happening...
BigTron
12-22-2010, 12:30 AM
Are you guys ready for all the draft headlines involving Luck..."It all comes down to Luck" etc. Im not. I hope he stays. Doesnt anyone wanna win a national championship these days?
TheMadStork
12-22-2010, 08:28 AM
I'm officially scared.
Denver plays Houston and SD and sits at 3 wins...
Carolina plays Atlanta and Pittsburgh and has 2 wins. Both teams could be resting starters for the final games.
Denver has as good a shot at their next John Elway as anyone.
Cincy plays Baltimore and San Diego. Perfect spoiler games, and I expect them to get 1 more win.
If he becomes a Bronco, I will kill somebody. Luck is such a stud...
We'd be OK if McDaniels was still there. He'd trade the pick for a bag of magic beans.
celticraider
12-22-2010, 08:45 AM
Are you guys ready for all the draft headlines involving Luck..."It all comes down to Luck" etc. Im not. I hope he stays. Doesnt anyone wanna win a national championship these days?
With the injury risk in football and the chance his play could fall off, he stands to lose huge money by not making the jump immediately.
CrossBones
12-22-2010, 08:49 AM
With the injury risk in football and the chance his play could fall off, he stands to lose huge money by not making the jump immediately.Jake Locker says "hi"...the decision to stay in school cost him millions...maybe 10's of millions.
TheMadStork
12-22-2010, 11:15 AM
With the injury risk in football and the chance his play could fall off, he stands to lose huge money by not making the jump immediately.
It'll be interesting to see if the rookie salary cap the owners supposedly want (thanks, Gump!) will have an effect on the number of players leaving school early to declare for the draft.
CrossBones
12-26-2010, 03:58 PM
Well at least it doesn't appear Luck will go to Denver. That's something.
Tebow will be a world beater anyway. FML.
Byron2112
12-26-2010, 05:21 PM
That would truly suck...
San Diego: Rivers
Kansas City: Cassell
Denver: Luck
Oakland: Dummy
Wow...Let's hope that doesn't happen.
LOL...
why we always suiting up dummy behind center? :shakehead:
BigTron
12-26-2010, 07:06 PM
Report: Luck plans to stay in school, for now
SI's Peter King reported on Football Night in America on NBC Sunday that Stanford QB Andrew Luck's "current plan" is to stay in school rather than leave for the 2011 NFL draft.
King cites Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh, who doesn't think Luck will go pro because of his commitment to academics. Should Luck enter the draft, he'd be the consensus favorite to be selected first overall by Carolina. Ultimately, the third-year sophomore's decision may depend on his performance in the Cardinal's December 3 Orange Bowl matchup with Virginia Tech. The Hokies have one of the most talented secondaries in college football. Dec. 26 - 8:32 pm et
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
I told you guys its possible...
CrossBones
12-27-2010, 05:22 AM
LOL...yeah right.
Yo Andrew...Vince "I'm coming back to school" Young says "hi"...
celticraider
12-27-2010, 12:49 PM
Because of his "commitment to academics." That's funny, colleges won't be going anywhere and he can finish his degree at his leisure. The kid needs to go pro and not waste any of his earning potential. I'm excited about him as a prospect, but the injury risk and chance of flopping loom large, you have to cash in when the money is there.
Put a mill in a Swiss bank account for him on the condition that he stays in school, tank the season, then draft him #1 overall in 2012.
celticraider
12-27-2010, 06:01 PM
Put a mill in a Swiss bank account for him on the condition that he stays in school, tank the season, then draft him #1 overall in 2012.
Fucking Mayan Calender, the Rapture, Ragnarock, and Nostradamus are telling this kid to get off his ass and play some football. The only way we fall in the toilet is if (Thor forbid) we lose McFadden.
BigTron
01-01-2011, 05:03 PM
Im not saying he will stay, but maybe he wants to win the Heisman or the National Championship... not everyone is ruled by the almighty dollar. Again he may be... but he might also might be even better next year. Im sure he is confident barring injury he is going beast... Ruling college football is tempting and he can build his brand even more by staying around and having a great follow up season. They're have been rumblings that Harbaugh may stay 1 more year due to family issues. IMO they both are gonna cash in because they deserve it.
Throw Jake Locker out there all you want.... he might still be a first rounder and there was no promise he was going over Bradford , Suh and McCoy so lets all stop acting like we can predict both the future and the theoretical past for a second and have some reality talk aka real talk haha
BigTron
01-03-2011, 08:24 PM
who is 100% sure that there will be a season next year?
Its not as easy of a decision as it seems
S and B Executioner
01-03-2011, 09:54 PM
get this kid at all costs!!
hawaiianboy
01-04-2011, 12:22 PM
According to ESPN.com's Pat Yasinskas, the Panthers have already decided to select Stanford QB Andrew Luck with the No. 1 overall pick if he enters the 2011 NFL draft.
Owner Jerry Richardson hinted as much in a media session Tuesday. "I think it would be somewhat unusual for us to trade down in this particular case," Richardson said. Hall of Famer and Stanford alum John Elway conceded after Monday's Orange Bowl that Luck "pretty much has to go" to the NFL considering the financial bottom line. Selecting Luck would be a concession by Carolina that Jimmy Clausen was a waste of a second-round pick. The Panthers are without their 2011 second-rounder after flipping it for receiver project Armanti Edwards in last year's draft.
Madturk
01-04-2011, 01:19 PM
Maybe he'll refuse to go to Carolina a la eli Manning and then Al steps in with some picks:p
raiderfreak7
01-04-2011, 02:30 PM
I know, I know that everything "realistic" says we can't get Luck... and that's true. But I think it has more to do with the fact that we don't have a 1st rounder this year than just about anything. We know Al would give up three first rounders to move up, but I don't see a team accepting that if they have to wait an extra year to use them. They'd be first rounders in '12, '13, and '14 as opposed to '11, '12, and '13 which would carry a lot more weight.
Maybe Al will do something completely unorthodox and trade McFadden and McClain with a few first rounders for Luck. Then re-sign Bush and look for another middle 'backer.
I love this Madden trading shit.
TheMadStork
01-06-2011, 11:47 AM
Luck decides to stay at Stanford (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5995754)
STANFORD, Calif. -- Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck will return for his junior season and skip the 2011 NFL draft, the school announced on Thursday.
"I am committed to earning my degree in architectural design from Stanford University and am on track to accomplish this at the completion of the spring quarter of 2012", Luck said in a statement.
Luck was considered the consensus No. 1 pick if he decided to leave school after his sophomore season. He led the Cardinal to a 12-1 record this season, capped off by a 40-12 win over Virginia Tech in the Discover Orange Bowl.
Luck completed 70 percent of his passes in the 2010 season for 3,338 yards and 32 touchdowns. He threw only eight interceptions in 372 passing attempts.
Luck finished second in the Heisman Trophy balloting to Auburn quarterback Cam Newton.
He will have two seasons of eligibility remaining at Stanford.
TheMadStork
01-06-2011, 11:51 AM
And so it begins...
And in other news, Blackreign.net moderator CrossBones has been put on suicide watch...
system7
01-06-2011, 12:05 PM
With the number one pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select...
BigTron
01-06-2011, 12:16 PM
LOL...yeah right.
Yo Andrew...Vince "I'm coming back to school" Young says "hi"...
Hi !!
BigTron
01-06-2011, 12:17 PM
Im not saying he will stay, but maybe he wants to win the Heisman or the National Championship... not everyone is ruled by the almighty dollar. Again he may be... but he might also might be even better next year. Im sure he is confident barring injury he is going beast... Ruling college football is tempting and he can build his brand even more by staying around and having a great follow up season. They're have been rumblings that Harbaugh may stay 1 more year due to family issues. IMO they both are gonna cash in because they deserve it.
Throw Jake Locker out there all you want.... he might still be a first rounder and there was no promise he was going over Bradford , Suh and McCoy so lets all stop acting like we can predict both the future and the theoretical past for a second and have some reality talk aka real talk haha
That guy knows his shit.
celticraider
01-06-2011, 12:21 PM
That guy knows his shit.
Good call, I still say it was a stupid decision by Luck, though.
celticraider
01-06-2011, 12:22 PM
And in other news, Blackreign.net moderator CrossBones has been put on suicide watch...
This just increased our chances of landing him considerably.
BigTron
01-06-2011, 12:23 PM
Well if we tank as bad as people around here seem to think... (since we lost Tom "Chuck Knoll" Cable)... we can draft luck.
TheMadStork
01-06-2011, 12:28 PM
This just increased our chances of landing him considerably.
I don't see that. If, as you think, we're going to improve, we won't have any high 1st round picks to package for him. I sure wouldn't trade the 1st overall pick for 3 low first rounders. Especially if they redo the CBA and put in a rookie salary scale.
CrossBones
01-06-2011, 12:28 PM
This just increased our chances of landing him considerably.Well of course it does.
Andrew must have had a discussion with Jake Locker. Bwahahahaha.
So, with a restructured deal, Aso is easily worth a #1 pick in 2011.
Oakland will probably still be picking somewhere in the top half of Rd1. Obviously, you'd want to try to send Scrabble to a team that will likely end up in the same boat (Sorry, Nnam. It's business, not personal.), if you don't just include him in the actual trade for the top pick. So you're theoretically looking at a pair of ~Top15 picks + a #1 in 2012. Surely that'd be enough.
hawaiianboy
01-06-2011, 12:31 PM
That girly shriek you just heard out of Carolina was Jimmy Clausen celebrating the news...
CrossBones
01-06-2011, 12:31 PM
And after al lthat work I bet Carolina is pissed. Wait...WAR Jimmy Clausen.
Edit: HBoy beat me by a nanosecond.
AND THE LEMMINGS GO WILD!!!!!!!!!!1111112345
celticraider
01-06-2011, 02:44 PM
I don't see that. If, as you think, we're going to improve, we won't have any high 1st round picks to package for him. I sure wouldn't trade the 1st overall pick for 3 low first rounders. Especially if they redo the CBA and put in a rookie salary scale.
It absolutely does anyway you look at it when comparing our chances of getting him right now. He may slip, and we will be in the first round. Right now we are looking at the number 1 overall pick in the draft with no trade chips in our gun. Next season he may drop to #10 and it will be easier to trade up from the 32nd pick.
TheMadStork
01-07-2011, 08:52 AM
It absolutely does anyway you look at it when comparing our chances of getting him right now. He may slip, and we will be in the first round. Right now we are looking at the number 1 overall pick in the draft with no trade chips in our gun. Next season he may drop to #10 and it will be easier to trade up from the 32nd pick.
I guess you're right. We've just sucked at drafting QB's for so long, I'm trying not to get my hopes up.
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