What if?

[Langlier]

popping one out there - feel free to propose your own

What If Gallery is our LT now and for the future? The one we envisioned when we drafted him.

What that changes -

LT - Gallery
LG - Barnes
C - Satele/Veldheer
RG - Campbell/Carlisle/Loper
RT - Walker

Suddenly our outside running is good to both sides (assuming the optimum).

It allows Barnes into the starting lineup on the side he is most comfortable and limits his liability of playing outside

It validates Gallery's salary

It makes Mario a backup again. Not sure if this is a good or bad thing.

food for thought when I read he was taking snaps at the tackle positions.

I doubt it materializes... but I think the possibility has been raised.

add your own what ifs

[Crow]

What if they actually did move Roberto back outside?

People often forget just how outstanding he was at RT his rookie year. Moving back there, where he'd be facing guys in the 240-290 range most of the time rather than 290-330+ DTs every week, could do wonders for his durability.

I've long been concerned about his head exploding if asked to make yet another position change. But, if he and Langston were to swap positions, I could definitely see it working.

Better still, let's roll with your Barnes as the starting LG idea for a moment. That kicks Walker inside to RG. Lining him and Gallery up to that side with Pears as the blocking TE could make for some pretty effective run blocking.

I'm off Gallery as a LT prospect, though. So, no matter what alignment we go with regarding him, Walker, and Barnes, we're still looking at below average production at LT and center.



What if the guys covering training camp on Twitter continue their Rolando McClain shit break coverage? Ah, the life of a 1st round pick with a documented dookie disorder.

[poptart]

Gallery at LT?

Did he sprinkle his arms with massive amounts of Miracle Grow this off-season?

Well, just playing along with the idea, Lang - IF R. Gallery could do the job for us at LT, and then with Barnes sliding in at LG, yes, perhaps the left side of the line would be improved.

But I still don't like what I see at C and RG.

I'm intriqued by Veldheer at C, but don't think it's gonna be in '10.
Satele leaves me limp.

Campbell is also a "project" right now.



I think we're badly in need of one solid interior lineman, no matter what we do.

[Crow]

What if McFadden has another season where he looks like RB is a new position for him?

Do you cut bait, or is a move to WR actually viable? With Chaz being completely unreliable, the need for depth is definitely there, and the waiver wire/FA market is littered with guys who could produce at HB at least as much as Darren has.

Darren McFadden will never be Chris Johnson. He'll never be Adrian Peterson. He's not Charlie Garner, or even Napoleon Kaufman. If he demonstrates under a new OC that his chances of ever being a competent RB are as slim as those daffodil stems he calls legs, his salary would seem to dictate that a change of some sort has to be made.

[poptart]

No doubt about it.

It's shit or get off the pot for him as a RB this year.

Same goes for Bush, but to a lesser degree.
I could see him hanging around as a "change-of-pace" guy beyond '10, even if he doesn't light it up this year.

But not McFumble.
He's gotta produce this year or some change WILL be made.

[NIPS]

Keep the dude inside- much more valuable there

[Postmaster]

Hue is going to run the damn ball so by year's end we will know what we have with both runners. I believe Bush will keep his nearly 5 ypc average and DMAC will do some exciting things in the passing game while occasionally breaking off a long run here and there.

Nobody on the offense should be judged with Jamarcus at QB and Cable as play caller.

Talk about a recipe for disaster. :shakehead:

[CrossBones]

Damn it PM...every time you post now I think that idiot signed up on the forum or stole your identity!

[RaiderJF]

Keep the dude inside- much more valuable there

Ah, some semblance of sensibility here. Refreshing... When I start hearing anyone mention the idea of putting L Walker at LT just gotta shut off the volume...

[TheMadStork]

Hue is going to run the damn ball so by year's end we will know what we have with both runners. I believe Bush will keep his nearly 5 ypc average and DMAC will do some exciting things in the passing game while occasionally breaking off a long run here and there.

Nobody on the offense should be judged with Jamarcus at QB and Cable as play caller.

Talk about a recipe for disaster. :shakehead:

If Bush doesn't have a breakout year, I'm going to be very surprised. Without 8 or 9 guys in the box, he (and DMac) should have some room to roam.

[hawaiianboy]

What if Khalif Barnes did something, anything to validate him making the team yet alone be a starter?

[Crow]

Somebody's gotta do it.

[RaiderRobert]

NO. Leave Gallery inside at LG. That is his home. It's not like we had superstars at either Tackle position that have prevented him from taking a Tackle spot. He is a Guard. Leave well enough alone.

I have been a supporter of Barnes. But he is on thin ice. If he can't break into one of the available spots as a starter, then I'm off his wagon. I think he would make a fine RG.

Quit fooling around with Veldheer at Center. Come on now. Let's get this guy as many reps at Tackle as we can. Same with Campbell. I know they want him as a Guard, but his size and athleticism scream LT.

I don't have ANY faith in Cable as an O-Line guru. I think somebody made that shit up. Gallery he got right. But EVERYONE else is out of position, or playing at all. Kwame Harris? Cooper Carlisle? Chris Morris named starter last year? SuperMario and Walker are great backup Tackles, not starters. Come on. Something is just plain weird with all of this shit.

Give me Campbell at LT, Gallery at LG, Satele at C (give me Wisnewski in 2011 draft), Barnes at RG, and Veldheer at RT. Plug them in, let 'em rip...

[TheMadStork]

Give me Campbell at LT, Gallery at LG, Satele at C (give me Wisnewski in 2011 draft), Barnes at RG, and Veldheer at RT. Plug them in, let 'em rip...

On the one hand, that doesn't sound like a bad idea. But Campbell is way too raw to put at a critical position like LT. He went in the 4th round for a reason, after all. His athleticism may scream LT, but Jason Campbell will be screaming, too, when RDE's are reducing his spine to splinters. As long as Gallery stays healthy, Super Mario should be OK. He did fall all to pieces when Gallery got hurt, but they looked pretty good together.

Barnes, it seems, would rather spend his time pouting instead of learning a position besides LT. Like HB said, I'm not sure why he's still on the roster.

[Swords]

what if we drafted Revis instead of .... :) in 2007


if's buts candy nuts

[RaiderRobert]

Campbell's measurables and athleticism is off the charts. Only Cable would take one of the biggest, strongest, fastest, most athletic Lineman in years, and shove him down inside and cover him up as a Guard. I would throw him in there at LT right now and get as many reps as possible. He needs experience. He is raw, I agree. Maybe he will not be ready to start right away, but why throw away all that god given talent? By all reports, The Bruce has a tremendous work ethic. Use it Cable...

And fucking Barnes... That cat needs to sack up and play ball. He is not athletic enough to play outside. He needs to be shoved down inside and covered up at RG. And we have a pussy there right now. Barnes can't beat out Carlisle? Then fuck off, he's outta here.

I'm seriously not liking Cable as a Line Coach...

[DarthRaidor]

Just say no to Campbell at RT. I don't know if you guys have seen the footage of him at LT in college but he is way too raw to start at LT as an NFL rook.

[Madturk]

Cable's handling of the OL since he's been here has been less than stellar IMO. Agree on Barnes. I'd let Campbell and Veldheer get reps at tackle but they're at least a season away from starting barring injury. Sounds like Walker is having a solid camp which is encouraging, just would like to see someone finally disengage Carlisle from RG.

[Postmaster]

Keep in mind Cable got the head gig here because he worked wonders with the o-line in 2007. We went from somewhere in the 30's in rushing to 10th while he was strictly an OL coach. He had Atlanta as the number 1 rush O the year before. I know Vick skews the numbers but still, #1 is #1.

It was when he became HC that the OL really started slipping because he had too much on his plate IMO.

[DonkeyKilla]

I don't have ANY faith in Cable as an O-Line guru. I think somebody made that shit up. Gallery he got right. But EVERYONE else is out of position, or playing at all. Kwame Harris? Cooper Carlisle? Chris Morris named starter last year? SuperMario and Walker are great backup Tackles, not starters. Come on. Something is just plain weird with all of this shit.

Give me Campbell at LT, Gallery at LG, Satele at C (give me Wisnewski in 2011 draft), Barnes at RG, and Veldheer at RT. Plug them in, let 'em rip...

It's not like Cable has had much to work with. When you neglect the line in the draft and the team is in such a mess that quality FA's don't want to come here you make do with what you have as coach. He got Gallery in the right spot. I will agree he's too willing to make do with what he has, but i think he persuaded Al to draft some OL this year in rounds 3 and 4. Face it, good OL don't come along often in FA and are highly coveted when they do. I can't place that on Cable. If he has Al's year for a couple more drafts and we still suck i will. I want to see what happens this year too now that he has an OC taking care of more.

[Byron2112]

Gallery got punked so hard in that opening day game against the Chargers... I don't wanna see that shit ever again... I'm sure he doesn't either.

Let the man be comfortable inside, he found his niche... I kinda like Mario anyhow. I have a feeling he's going to look much better protecting a QB that actually bothers to read the playbook and isn't zonked out on pain killers.

[hawaiianboy]

It was when he became HC that the OL really started slipping because he had too much on his plate IMO.


To his credit, there seemed to have been a very definitive plan going into this offseason... From adding Hue, to trading for specific players, to the draft, to dumping Jamarcus etc... So far, Curly and Co have been knocking them out of the park... We truly look like we have our shit together for a change...


I think I'm going to wait to see how things go before questioning their approach to the O-line... Veldheer despite his height, has a long torso and low center of gravity so that may give us more of a power player vs all the NT's in a league full of 34 defenses... Bruce Campbell's strength was said to be his ability to get out and lead block on outside runs and screens, so maybe we see that mobility projecting to a pulling guard... Maybe one or both move to tackle depending on Mario's progress... who knows...

[Byron2112]

To his credit, there seemed to have been a very definitive plan going into this offseason... From adding Hue, to trading for specific players, to the draft, to dumping Jamarcus etc... So far, Curly and Co have been knocking them out of the park... We truly look like we have our shit together for a change...

Yeah, a plan... definitely a plan... nice to look like we're a coordinated, thoughtful organization with a purpose... much better than running the thing through the scrap books and photo albums.

Gotta give Cable credit for having the balls to lay down a plan and put it into action.

[Madturk]

Not to beat a dead horse, but where was the plan last offseason in arguably one of the best OL drafts in quite some time? Gotta build the OL before u start adding skill players. Hopefully we got it right this offseason, but I'll feel a lot better if we can bring a couple more veteran bodies into camp.

Hoping that someone like Loper or Alex Parsons can step up and win the RG job

[Raidervinny]

Not to beat a dead horse, but where was the plan last offseason in arguably one of the best OL drafts in quite some time? Gotta build the OL before u start adding skill players. Hopefully we got it right this offseason, but I'll feel a lot better if we can bring a couple more veteran bodies into camp.

Hoping that someone like Loper or Alex Parsons can step up and win the RG job

The plan was there...Al just wanted his toy more.

[Rupert]

It was when he became HC that the OL really started slipping because he had too much on his plate IMO.
Not just your opinion, his as well. Remember his comments after Jackson was hired? He said the offense suffered because he was wearing too many hats, and that he would now get to focus on more HC tasks. He thought it would be much better for the team overall. And he's right.

Look at what happened to the Rat when he took over player personnel issues in Denver, the team fell to pieces. He might have been able to handle HC and OC, which Cable couldn't, but the third major responsibility spread him too thin and it all went to hell.

[Sabers]

The little I saw of Khalif Barnes last season doesn't lead me to believe he's a viable answer anywhere. Will wait til preseason to evaluate that. If Jared Veldheer looks like an answer at LT, I'd get him as much work there as possible behind Mario Henderson. If the thought is to move him to center, I'd get him max work behind Samson Satele. Either way, I'd want him up to speed ASAP. At RG, they could throw a blocking sled out there in place of Cooper Carlisle and I'd be happy. Am hoping this guy Daniel Loper turns out to be more than camp fodder.

G.

[NIPS]

... I kinda like Mario anyhow. I have a feeling he's going to look much better protecting a QB that actually bothers to read the playbook and isn't zonked out on pain killers.

Dont you start with that shit-

You guys ran me through the ringer on my backing of the guy the last 2 years- this ship is full- with my white ass only- rest of you other MF'ers find you another boat- this vessel is mine

[Birdwell]

Okay, what if...

Henderson takes another step forward as an NFL LT (he was more raw than Bruce Campbell coming out of college),

Gallery is healthy for the season and plays at the pro blowl level he has the past two seasons (when healthy),

Week 11 shows Jared Veldheer at C -- remember how good Trevor Scott looked in Dallas after the bye? -- a guy with intelligence, strength, and size,

Week 11 has Bruce Campbell starting at RG,

Langston Walker shows that when you don't ask him to play like a ZBS T at his size he's actually a damn fine lead blocker and reasonable against base ends in pass protection?

Veldheer is a guy who will be the first one in on injuries to C, or either T spot. Campbell's athleticism is a HUGE asset at G, and with a guy like Veldheer (or a competent player) at C, could be awesome pulling and leading a play to Michael Bush's natural strong side.

The bye comes late this year. If we're in touch with the division l;eader and come out of the bye stronger (and far heal;thier) than we go in, we win the division.

[RaiderJF]

Birdie,

Would love to see your "what if" come to fruition... and IMHO, not that far-fetched. Could very easily see the two rooks get their feet wet inside this year and it would be great to see as they are obviously keys to rebuilding this line.

[Sleet]

Cable's handling of the OL since he's been here has been less than stellar IMO. Agree on Barnes. I'd let Campbell and Veldheer get reps at tackle but they're at least a season away from starting barring injury. Sounds like Walker is having a solid camp which is encouraging, just would like to see someone finally disengage Carlisle from RG.

I'm going to trust the brain trust of Al, Cable, Hue and Maz as to where the players on our current roster are best suited. Yes, it is fun to talk about (and I actually like many of the ideas I've read), but who are we kidding? We aren't watching tape. Let the football coaches, coach.

[Sleet]

Okay, what if...

Henderson takes another step forward as an NFL LT (he was more raw than Bruce Campbell coming out of college),

Gallery is healthy for the season and plays at the pro blowl level he has the past two seasons (when healthy),

Week 11 shows Jared Veldheer at C -- remember how good Trevor Scott looked in Dallas after the bye? -- a guy with intelligence, strength, and size,

Week 11 has Bruce Campbell starting at RG,

Langston Walker shows that when you don't ask him to play like a ZBS T at his size he's actually a damn fine lead blocker and reasonable against base ends in pass protection?

Veldheer is a guy who will be the first one in on injuries to C, or either T spot. Campbell's athleticism is a HUGE asset at G, and with a guy like Veldheer (or a competent player) at C, could be awesome pulling and leading a play to Michael Bush's natural strong side.

The bye comes late this year. If we're in touch with the division l;eader and come out of the bye stronger (and far heal;thier) than we go in, we win the division.

I'd be excited to see Hendo, Gallery, Veldheer, The Bruce, and Walker. That would give us some serious size, power and athletisism.

[Sabers]

I'm going to trust the brain trust of Al, Cable, Hue and Maz as to where the players on our current roster are best suited. Yes, it is fun to talk about (and I actually like many of the ideas I've read), but who are we kidding? We aren't watching tape. Let the football coaches, coach.

The biggest thing that worries me about Langston Walker is that there is zero depth behind him. In reality, this entire line is paper-thin from tackle to tackle. Getting Jared Veldheer and Bruce Campbell spun up and game-ready quickly is an absolute must, and at least one serviceable backup needs to be found among the camp fodder.

G.

[DonkeyKilla]

we still need to sign more guys. Denver is changing their schem but obviously had some very good players on that line, hopefully we can pick up one or two.

[Byron2112]

Dont you start with that shit-

You guys ran me through the ringer on my backing of the guy the last 2 years- this ship is full- with my white ass only- rest of you other MF'ers find you another boat- this vessel is mine

Nah... I never bagged on Mario.

That was all the impatient Fem-Bots around here.

[RaiderRobert]

we still need to sign more guys. Denver is changing their schem but obviously had some very good players on that line, hopefully we can pick up one or two.

They drafted both of the Centers I wanted in this last draft, anybody know how they are doing?

[RaiderRobert]

Dont you start with that shit-

You guys ran me through the ringer on my backing of the guy the last 2 years- this ship is full- with my white ass only- rest of you other MF'ers find you another boat- this vessel is mine

Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, A tale of a fateful trip. That started from this tropic port, Aboard this tiny ship...

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/quiz/127000/127837_1232542743875_400_300.jpg

You can keep SuperMario and your boat. Enjoy the 3 hour tour...

SuperMario would be a back up on any other team. He will be backing up somebody on ours just as soon as we decide to take our Offensive Line seriously...

[TheMadStork]

Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, A tale of a fateful trip. That started from this tropic port, Aboard this tiny ship...

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/quiz/127000/127837_1232542743875_400_300.jpg



That show always made me confused. How come the Professor could make a nuclear reactor out of three coconuts and some seaweed, but he couldn't build a friggin' raft???

[Birdwell]

we still need to sign more guys. Denver is changing their schem but obviously had some very good players on that line, hopefully we can pick up one or two.

We picked up Cooper Carlisle and Cornell Green off the Denver trash heap. Not excited about that.

[Langlier]

We picked up Cooper Carlisle and Cornell Green off the Denver trash heap. Not excited about that.

coop's done an admiral job at RG for us. If the guy had some strength to him I'd be all for keeping him around. But a slightly below average strength guard that is getting weaker in a division packed full of 3-4... Not going to cut it.

He's still a good technician and he's good in space. You won't see him "miss" many blocks. But you'll see him get overpowered plenty.

[Old Bob]

Just training camp bodies. Got to have somebody to hit and not beat your starters up.

[Madturk]

That show always made me confused. How come the Professor could make a nuclear reactor out of three coconuts and some seaweed, but he couldn't build a friggin' raft???


I swear when Maryann was wearing those cutoffs I could see bush.

[DonkeyKilla]

We picked up Cooper Carlisle and Cornell Green off the Denver trash heap. Not excited about that.

that was when they were basically cast offs because they couldn't cut it. This is a different scenario- Denver is changing their personell because they are changing their blocking scheme. There are some good players on that OL... and we should know as we've seen them whip our ass a number of times over the years. I bet there will be some quality let go from Denver- certainly better than Pears, Morris, Barnes etc.

[Birdwell]

that was when they were basically cast offs because they couldn't cut it. This is a different scenario- Denver is changing their personell because they are changing their blocking scheme. There are some good players on that OL... and we should know as we've seen them whip our ass a number of times over the years. I bet there will be some quality let go from Denver- certainly better than Pears, Morris, Barnes etc.

I respectfully submit that our lack of gap discipline on D had ever so much more to do with why Denver has run all over the Raider D on many days. Still,...

These are the guys at O-line listed on the Donkey roster -- which proven NFL veteran projects as a possible cut who you'd want as a starter here?

Centers Dustin Fry (3rd year) and JD Walton (rookie)

Gs D'Anthony Batiste (6th year) Zane Beadles (rookie), Stanley Daniels (2nd year), Russ Hochstein (11th year), Chris Kuper (6th year), Eric Olsen (rookie), Seth Olsen (3rd year)

Ts Kirk Barton (3rd year), Ryan Clady (4th year), Paul Duncan (rookie), Tyler Polumbus (3rd year).

Dunno, but the likely available pickings look slim to me.

[DonkeyKilla]

yeah Bird, maybe you are right. I don't know any of these guys really except Clady. I know their O-line has been pretty good the last few years and not just against us. I figured they drafted a lot of guys and also brought in some FAs so there would likely be some quality let go. I honestly can't speak to any of these guys though and I'm not a scout for the Raiders so i'm not going to put in the work...

[Langlier]

I respectfully submit that our lack of gap discipline on D had ever so much more to do with why Denver has run all over the Raider D on many days. Still,...

These are the guys at O-line listed on the Donkey roster -- which proven NFL veteran projects as a possible cut who you'd want as a starter here?

Centers Dustin Fry (3rd year) and JD Walton (rookie)

Gs D'Anthony Batiste (6th year) Zane Beadles (rookie), Stanley Daniels (2nd year), Russ Hochstein (11th year), Chris Kuper (6th year), Eric Olsen (rookie), Seth Olsen (3rd year)

Ts Kirk Barton (3rd year), Ryan Clady (4th year), Paul Duncan (rookie), Tyler Polumbus (3rd year).

Dunno, but the likely available pickings look slim to me.

Biggest problem is the injury to Clady shifts Harris to LT for now. The thought was the switch to a power scheme might not fit him or Kuper - that doesn't look to be the case.

Theres still a chance that a guy like Polumbus or Olsen doesnt make the roster.

Not as hopeful for a quality castoff as I was earlier in the season.

[RaiderRobert]

These are the guys at O-line listed on the Donkey roster -- which proven NFL veteran projects as a possible cut who you'd want as a starter here?

Centers Dustin Fry (3rd year) and JD Walton (rookie)

Gs D'Anthony Batiste (6th year) Zane Beadles (rookie), Stanley Daniels (2nd year), Russ Hochstein (11th year), Chris Kuper (6th year), Eric Olsen (rookie), Seth Olsen (3rd year)

Ts Kirk Barton (3rd year), Ryan Clady (4th year), Paul Duncan (rookie), Tyler Polumbus (3rd year).

Dunno, but the likely available pickings look slim to me.

Right about now our Defense Line and LB's are licking their chops. Babytown Frolics...

[DonkeyKilla]

my guess is anyone on that list could compete or win a spot from CC, Satelle, Morris, Pears. We still need competition, even if we don't get a new starter our back-ups are terrible. Pears , CC, Satelle, and Morris are borderline NFL players.

[RaiderJF]

Pears and Morris are going to be hard-pressed to make the team this year with Valdheer and B Campbell taking roster spots. Would love to get an upgrade at RG to make CC expendable, but looks too much like Curley's got a man crush on him to let him go... As for Satele, if he isn't showing bigtime improvement in camp, an instant upgrade is only a phone call to Mawae away... I, personally, would have Mawae's phone number on speed dial if I were in the front office...

[DonkeyKilla]

Pears and Morris are going to be hard-pressed to make the team this year with Valdheer and B Campbell taking roster spots. Would love to get an upgrade at RG to make CC expendable, but looks too much like Curley's got a man crush on him to let him go... As for Satele, if he isn't showing bigtime improvement in camp, an instant upgrade is only a phone call to Mawae away... I, personally, would have Mawae's phone number on speed dial if I were in the front office...

i see no reason to wait. Satelle had a whole season to show what he could do...

Anyway, outside of Gallery there isn't a position on the line that couldn't use more competition

[Raidervinny]

i see no reason to wait. Satelle had a whole season to show what he could do...

Anyway, outside of Gallery there isn't a position on the line that couldn't use more competition

Salelle was coming off shoulder surgury and wasn't able to work out last offseason. Also, he was making the switch to the ZBS. I think Satelle is still a decent starter and has a chance to become a quality starter if he's fully healed. That said, I do think we can upgrade...just not this season. Anyone who thinks Mawae is the answer is dreaming...I don't know how that guy made the Pro Bowl but it wasn't due to his play last year that's for sure.

Our line will be fine this year, not great, but fine. We can go 8-8 with this line and can look for upgrades next year.

[DonkeyKilla]

bring him in, if he's not an upgrade cut him. I'd like to see more competition and people fighting for these starting spots.

[Raidervinny]

bring him in, if he's not an upgrade cut him. I'd like to see more competition and people fighting for these starting spots.

If he would sign for a decent price AND be willing to fight for a job then I can't see what that would hurt. He shouldn't be any worse than Morris. I just don't see him as the be-all/end-all to our search for a dominant C.

[Madturk]

I like the idea of bringing in Mawae as a mentor if we plan on moving Veldheer to C. Guy's probably a sure fire HOF'r and would be an ideal guy to to work with until he's ready to go. Definitely an upgrade over Morris at the worst.

[Raider Outlaw]

We've had subpar blocking since '04, so discarding either RB is not fair. Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson, even Bo Jackson or Marcus Allen wouldn't fare well behind this line. It defines our team's biggest weakness the past 6 years.

[Sleet]

yeah Bird, maybe you are right. I don't know any of these guys really except Clady. I know their O-line has been pretty good the last few years and not just against us. I figured they drafted a lot of guys and also brought in some FAs so there would likely be some quality let go. I honestly can't speak to any of these guys though and I'm not a scout for the Raiders so i'm not going to put in the work...

Just ask BroncoVinny.:D

[Sleet]

Pears and Morris are going to be hard-pressed to make the team this year with Valdheer and B Campbell taking roster spots. Would love to get an upgrade at RG to make CC expendable, but looks too much like Curley's got a man crush on him to let him go... As for Satele, if he isn't showing bigtime improvement in camp, an instant upgrade is only a phone call to Mawae away... I, personally, would have Mawae's phone number on speed dial if I were in the front office...

Satele > Mawae

Mawae would be signed already if he had anything left. And, when/if he gets signed, I doubt it will be in a new scheme he hasn't run before.

I think Satele is going to play better, but Veldheer will be taking over if he doesn't.