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MasterRaider
06-09-2010, 09:44 PM
Here's that article....Raiders not on the same afterall...
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/06/09/raiders-not-on-same-page-after-all/

Following the first day of practice the Raiders’ mandatory minicamp following the draft, I asked rookie third-round pick Jared Veldheer about the intensity of the “no contact” practices.


He laughed out loud.

“Well, it’s a lot of contact right now,” said Veldheer, who went on to talk about technique, pad level and how you don’t quite finish a block even if you fire out to start one.

He said, “Besides that, the run stuff is pretty full go.”

The following is the official offseason guidelines for the 14 workouts classified as OTAs:

– No pads except protective knee or elbow pads. Helmets are permitted.

– No live contact; no live contact drills between offensive and defensive linemen.

– A maximum six hours per day, with a maximum two hours on field for any player.

– 7-on-7, 9-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills will be permitted, providing no live contact takes place.

For the second time since 2007, the Raiders have apparently either exceeded the amount of contact deemed acceptable for the offseason or practiced too long. The joint statement by the NFL and NFLPA did not specify Oakland’s violation and the Raiders have had no comment. Oakland head coach Tom Cable was the offensive line coach the last time the Raiders lost OTA time.

Oakland joins the Baltimore Ravens as the second team to lose OTA sessions. Violations typically are reported through the union, with the NFL then requesting practice film with the offending team obliged to produce it.

So as happy as Cable has been with the offseason turnout and as much as he believes everyone on the same page, a player or three had to deviate from the script to get the ball rolling for punishment to be meted out.

The Raiders have been pushing the two-hour limit in most of their offseason practices open to the media but cut Wednesday’s short by comparison, starting at 9:30 a.m. and finishing a little after 11 a.m.

Sleet
06-09-2010, 09:57 PM
Pisses me off.

DonkeyKilla
06-09-2010, 10:04 PM
Why does curly push it in OTAs and then have ballet when camp starts? doesn't make any sense...

raiderfreak7
06-09-2010, 11:01 PM
Someone has to complain to NFLPA. Doesn't seem like Veldheer is complaining and since the interview was today I doubt anyone could make a decision that quick as they'd need to request practice videos, review them, and then talk about a punishment. The complaint was probably made days ago.

MasterRaider
06-09-2010, 11:14 PM
Someone has to complain to NFLPA. Doesn't seem like Veldheer is complaining and since the interview was today I doubt anyone could make a decision that quick as they'd need to request practice videos, review them, and then talk about a punishment. The complaint was probably made days ago.

No that interview was from the first camp following the draft...not from today...nfl.com said this is the interview that got the team in trouble...

Straight from nfl.com...
"Rookie offensive tackle Jared Veldheer told the Oakland Tribune that there was "a lot of contact" in the voluntary practices and "the run stuff is pretty full go." That would violate the OTA guidelines, which prohibit hitting."

Also this...
"According to the Tribune, the Raiders also have pushed the two-hour limit in most of the offseason practices open to the media."

Oh well...it is what it is...

DonkeyKilla
06-10-2010, 08:48 AM
hopefully Veldheer just being a rook that didn't know better.

Sabers
06-10-2010, 09:59 AM
No that interview was from the first camp following the draft...not from today...nfl.com said this is the interview that got the team in trouble...

Straight from nfl.com...
"Rookie offensive tackle Jared Veldheer told the Oakland Tribune that there was "a lot of contact" in the voluntary practices and "the run stuff is pretty full go." That would violate the OTA guidelines, which prohibit hitting."

Also this...
"According to the Tribune, the Raiders also have pushed the two-hour limit in most of the offseason practices open to the media."

Oh well...it is what it is...

I'm not sure if this tells us who it was, but we already know who it wasn't: rookie DT/DE Lamarr Houston. From everything we've heard on him so far, he looks for excuses for contact. He was probably looking to hit somebody Draft Day.

G.

hawaiianboy
06-10-2010, 12:00 PM
Tim Kawakami has been at every practice open to the media... I'd always be inclined to blame a shit stirring media dike like that before pointing the finger at a player... The players have to be there anyway and I don't think the players really give a crap if there is some contact or not, in fact I think most prefer to have some banging...

Raidermania12
06-10-2010, 04:16 PM
Tim Kawakami has been at every practice open to the media... I'd always be inclined to blame a shit stirring media dike like that before pointing the finger at a player... The players have to be there anyway and I don't think the players really give a crap if there is some contact or not, in fact I think most prefer to have some banging...
it wouldnt reflect on anymore than the very few who didnt want to be banging.

Birdwell
06-10-2010, 08:25 PM
Who cares? Last season is over. Can't learn squat about new O-line or D-line personnel in strict non-contact drills. Football is a violent game like chess is not.

Veldheer sounded happy with it, almost excited. It's about intensity. To quote a certain Flounder, "This is gonna be good."