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Three freshman players that were part of Lane Kiffin's first recruiting class have been charged with attempted armed robbery in Knoxville.
Janzen Jackson, Mike Edwards and Nu'Keese Richardson are accused of trying to rob three men sitting in a car outside a convenience story. The three men described the scene in which two males in black-hooded sweatshirts attempt to rob them and then fled in a 2010 Toyota Prius.
According to Knoxville Police Department spokesman Darrell DeBusk, police pulled over the car and found Edwards, Richardson and Jackson inside. The car was driven by Marie Montmarquet, 22, DeBusk said.
A search of the Prius revealed a air-powered pellet pistol under the rear seat. Two black hoodies were seen in plain view in the back seat, DeBusk said.
In the car's glove box police found a marijuana grinder. Police found a clear plastic bag of suspected marijuana in Montmarquet's jacket pocket, DeBusk said.
Montmarquet told police the pot grinder and pot found in her jacket belonged to her, DeBusk said. She was charged with simple possession of pot and possession of drug paraphernalia.
Tennessee athletic director Mike Hamilton released a statement Thursday morning about the episode.
"At this time we are currently evaluating the circumstances surrounding an incident involving Mike Edwards, Janzen Jackson and Nu'Keese Richardson," Hamilton said. "Any decisions or comments regarding their status will not be made until the evaluations are complete."
All three players have seen action in their first season with Jackson sixth on the team with 33 tackles.
Link (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2009/11/three-tennessee-players-charged-with-armed-robbery/1)
This is funny on so many levels.
Who uses a freakin' Prius as a getaway car?
And, WTF is a marijuana "grinder"?
eleven
11-12-2009, 10:52 AM
Janzen Jackson, Mike Edwards and Nu'Keese Richardson are accused of trying to rob three men sitting in a car outside a convenience story. The three men described the scene in which two males in black-hooded sweatshirts attempt to rob them and then fled in a 2010 Toyota Prius.
Link (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2009/11/three-tennessee-players-charged-with-armed-robbery/1)
Prius :p
teh stoners
Raiderpunk
11-12-2009, 12:25 PM
Three freshman players that were part of Lane Kiffin's first recruiting class have been charged with attempted armed robbery in Knoxville.
Janzen Jackson, Mike Edwards and Nu'Keese Richardson are accused of trying to rob three men sitting in a car outside a convenience story. The three men described the scene in which two males in black-hooded sweatshirts attempt to rob them and then fled in a 2010 Toyota Prius.
According to Knoxville Police Department spokesman Darrell DeBusk, police pulled over the car and found Edwards, Richardson and Jackson inside. The car was driven by Marie Montmarquet, 22, DeBusk said.
A search of the Prius revealed a air-powered pellet pistol under the rear seat. Two black hoodies were seen in plain view in the back seat, DeBusk said.
In the car's glove box police found a marijuana grinder. Police found a clear plastic bag of suspected marijuana in Montmarquet's jacket pocket, DeBusk said.
Montmarquet told police the pot grinder and pot found in her jacket belonged to her, DeBusk said. She was charged with simple possession of pot and possession of drug paraphernalia.
Tennessee athletic director Mike Hamilton released a statement Thursday morning about the episode.
"At this time we are currently evaluating the circumstances surrounding an incident involving Mike Edwards, Janzen Jackson and Nu'Keese Richardson," Hamilton said. "Any decisions or comments regarding their status will not be made until the evaluations are complete."
All three players have seen action in their first season with Jackson sixth on the team with 33 tackles.
Link (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2009/11/three-tennessee-players-charged-with-armed-robbery/1)
One thing you can count on is Lane Kiffin will have more success than Al Davis (I mean recent success, not past 1980's history) where ever he goes. Take that to the bank. That could change if Al were willing to give up the reigns but we all know that aint happening.
One thing about Kiffin that I loved was he outed Davis for what he really is...a past his prime, should've retired ions ago, "commitment to excrement", "just win my way baby" mooncalf! :pound:
Raider Outlaw
11-12-2009, 02:30 PM
None of these revelations are shocking. Whatever you thought of the Kiffin/Davis feud, I don't see much character in the former and the Volunteer program has a sleazy feel to it since he's taken over the reins. Richardson was actually the guy that he went to battle with Meyer over when he accused him of cheating in the spring, which makes this so much more ironic.
There's also rumors that they outright paid the Brown kid to come to Tennessee at the last minute because no one had them on the radar when he was expected to go to either Alabama, Miami, or Florida. This guy just has no integrity and as much as I hate what's become of the Raiders, Al made the 100% right call firing him, just should have done so quicker in my opinion, knowing all the details in hindsight.
Madturk
11-12-2009, 02:43 PM
Did Dick Vermiel cry?
Rupert
11-12-2009, 03:51 PM
One thing you can count on is Lane Kiffin will have more success than Al Davis (I mean recent success, not past 1980's history) where ever he goes. Take that to the bank. That could change if Al were willing to give up the reigns but we all know that aint happening.
One thing about Kiffin that I loved was he outed Davis for what he really is...a past his prime, should've retired ions ago, "commitment to excrement", "just win my way baby" mooncalf! :pound:
Ummmm, check something for me here, how would Al giving up the regins result in him having success? That would be removing himself from any possibility of success.
And therein lies Al's problem. If he turns control over now, he cements his legacy as the cause of the Raiders' recent failures. He HAS to turn it around before he bows out. So everyone hoping for his continued epic failure is hoping the Raiders continue to fail until he dies. And if his mother is any indication, he'll soldier on for quite some time.
You've gotta take a different approach to this thing. Take that to the bank!
PDX Raider
11-12-2009, 04:19 PM
Ummmm, check something for me here, how would Al giving up the regins result in him having success? That would be removing himself from any possibility of success.
And therein lies Al's problem. If he turns control over now, he cements his legacy as the cause of the Raiders' recent failures. He HAS to turn it around before he bows out. So everyone hoping for his continued epic failure is hoping the Raiders continue to fail until he dies. And if his mother is any indication, he'll soldier on for quite some time.
You've gotta take a different approach to this thing. Take that to the bank!
Good point. I've thought the same thing. He can't ever give up control b/c that would be an acknowledgment of his errors. That's why this team is in an interminable tailspin. Every error is compounded by a refusal to acknowledge the mistake. Contrast that with successful teams, who have no issue ceding control to coaches and letting them make ultimate decisions w/respect to what transpires on the field. Pittsburgh is a great example. They took Limas Sweed in the first round (one of the few mistakes that team has made). By all accounts, Limas Sweed hasn't performed. So Tomlin, does what any good coach would do, which is to bench him. Now they're playing a third round rookie named Wallace over the much more hyped Sweed. That's what good teams do. Here, DHB plays b/c the dipshit owner is hell bent on showing the world that he was right when he took DHB at seven. At this point, I'm not sure that DHB is not the worst WR on the team, and yet he starts. The bigger problem of course, is Russell, whose brutal performance can destroy a team's chances to win in less than 5 plays (See Jets game). Basically, this team is doomed b/c of Al's refusal to step aside. He just won't do it. Not now, not ever.
PDX
Raider Outlaw
11-12-2009, 06:33 PM
I think those who paint him in that light have Al Davis all wrong. He's definitely an egomaniac, but show me any wealthy man of power who isn't, show me any men of even limited success who aren't in their own personal realms. He will turn decisions over to those he trusts, he didn't trust Kiffin, nor should he have in my estimation. Kiffin seems to be a weasel who has 10 faces for whoever he's talking to at the time. He's the classic spoiled kid who's gotten where he is on his father's accomplishments, but has been able to go further than his father ever could because he has charm and a frat boy look that his father never had, although Monte Kiffin is a great coach, something I think Lane will fallshort of more because he doesn't realize his own limitations and suffers from "smartest man in the room" syndrome.
Coaching hires are a lot like the regular work place. Fat guys, old guys, "ugly" guys, etc. get overlooked for the "smart" looking, young guy. It's all about projecting confidence to the public or boosters, one of the main reasons more minority coaches haven't gotten chances at the NCAA level. It's all about who your target audience is. Take a look at Rex Ryan. How he stayed the Baltimore DC for nearly 10 years is absurd considering his credentials. Consider Monte Kiffin, he never was even interviewed for any jobs, although he largely implemented the Tampa 2 with Dungy in Tampa, yet his "look the part" son has gotten both an NFL and top SEC job in 3 years.. Look at Raheem Morris, who's essentially gotten the chance that Monte never got in the same organization because management wanted to re-create what they had with Dungy and what Mike Tomlin has done in Pittsburgh. He looks the part of the tough, young defensive coach from the Dungy tree.
Al lives in a seclusion which probably is heightened because of how he came into control of the Raiders, which affords no trust to anyone without a reason. That's why he tries to surround himself with former players and assistants in debted to him in some way. He has demonstrated that he'll "give up the reins" to a certain point to someone he respects and trusts, as evidenced by his relationship with Bruce Allen and Jon Gruden. All owners retain some control of their franchises, don't get duped by the media bias against Al. His problem is finding anyone who he'll trust, and who will trust him.
He not only didn't trust Kiffin, he didn't even respect him, probably escalated by Kiffin's behind the scenes antics while in Oakland. What was more amazing was that Kiffin showed no respect to him, which is simply a necessity for someone in his position as an underling. Moreover, Kiffin doesn't seem to respect anyone, as evidenced by his antics since going to Knoxville. Therefore, not allowing him to bring his father in as DC, even not wanting to listen much to Kiffin on personnel, goes more to that point than Al not wanting to "give up the reins." Gruden contradicts that line of thought. Hell, Ron Wolfe contradicts that line of thought. After a point of feeling disrespected by someone who has never accomplished 1/10 of what you have in your lifetime as I'm sure Al felt when co-existing with Kiffin, that just makes the working relationship impossible to prosper.
Al will always be involved, he should be, it's his team. He just needs people who respectfully challenge him, which I don't think anyone has done in a long time frankly. Cable is clueless on personnel, much like most of his coaching hires, including even Gruden to a certain point.
DarkDays
11-12-2009, 08:31 PM
One thing you can count on is Lane Kiffin will have more success than Al Davis (I mean recent success, not past 1980's history) where ever he goes. Take that to the bank. That could change if Al were willing to give up the reigns but we all know that aint happening.
One thing about Kiffin that I loved was he outed Davis for what he really is...a past his prime, should've retired ions ago, "commitment to excrement", "just win my way baby" mooncalf! :pound:
I wish I could rep that 1,000,000 times.
One thing you can count on is Lane Kiffin will have more success than Al Davis (I mean recent success, not past 1980's history) where ever he goes. Take that to the bank. That could change if Al were willing to give up the reigns but we all know that aint happening.
One thing about Kiffin that I loved was he outed Davis for what he really is...a past his prime, should've retired ions ago, "commitment to excrement", "just win my way baby" mooncalf! :pound:
We need to add some sort of indicator as to age on this forum. Youngsters are constantly posting ignorant things. I say that because someone who knows his NFL history wouldn't make this statement whether he is a fan of Al Davis or not. Davis has definitely lost his touch. There is no argument there. But to say that Lane Kiffin will have more success is just plain stupid. We are comparing an individual that was part and parcel to what we know as the NFL today to someone who is in his infancy as a head coach and not particularly doing very well. Unless you can guarantee that Kiffin takes Tennessee to at least 5 National Championships and wins at least three can you make this statement. Then again if Kiffin can hold down the head coaching position for the next forty years.....it maybe could happen. ;) Right?
Raider Bill
11-13-2009, 03:23 AM
We need to add some sort of indicator as to age on this forum. Youngsters are constantly posting ignorant things. I say that because someone who knows his NFL history wouldn't make this statement whether he is a fan of Al Davis or not. Davis has definitely lost his touch. There is no argument there. But to say that Lane Kiffin will have more success is just plain stupid. We are comparing an individual that was part and parcel to what we know as the NFL today to someone who is in his infancy as a head coach and not particularly doing very well. Unless you can guarantee that Kiffin takes Tennessee to at least 5 National Championships and wins at least three can you make this statement. Then again if Kiffin can hold down the head coaching position for the next forty years.....it maybe could happen. ;) Right?
you need to read what he said again
I mean recent success, not past 1980's history)
Temple's coach has met that standard
you need to read what he said again
Okay, then I'll rephrase what I meant. Lane Kiffin will never have the level of success required to even sniff a national championship.
Rupert
11-13-2009, 09:16 AM
Good point. I've thought the same thing. He can't ever give up control b/c that would be an acknowledgment of his errors. That's why this team is in an interminable tailspin. Every error is compounded by a refusal to acknowledge the mistake. Contrast that with successful teams, who have no issue ceding control to coaches and letting them make ultimate decisions w/respect to what transpires on the field. Pittsburgh is a great example. They took Limas Sweed in the first round (one of the few mistakes that team has made). By all accounts, Limas Sweed hasn't performed. So Tomlin, does what any good coach would do, which is to bench him. Now they're playing a third round rookie named Wallace over the much more hyped Sweed. That's what good teams do. Here, DHB plays b/c the dipshit owner is hell bent on showing the world that he was right when he took DHB at seven. At this point, I'm not sure that DHB is not the worst WR on the team, and yet he starts. The bigger problem of course, is Russell, whose brutal performance can destroy a team's chances to win in less than 5 plays (See Jets game). Basically, this team is doomed b/c of Al's refusal to step aside. He just won't do it. Not now, not ever.
PDX
I see it differently. Al KNOWS that it takes certain positions time to develop. WR and QB being notable in the development time.
If you take a step back and look at the offense, you see the entire collection of skill players is VERY young.
The reason Al demands that they start and play is because he wants them to develop.
If you think we've suffered through this decade, ask yourself what Al has gone through. Exactly, worse than any damned one of us. Much worse. Maybe your so-called friends like to laugh and poke fun at you because you're a Raider fan, but Al Davis IS the Raiders. And when the media, which Al watches (or has watched) closely ridicules him, it cuts to the bone (or have you missed all the oppotunities he's taken to shoot little jabs at them in recent years?).
So if Al, who truly lives and breathes Raiders, has the patience to undergo a couple more years of pain and suffering to turn this thing around, why don't you? You have less invested in it. You can step away and take a break. Turn off the TV, ignore the mediots, and complain about the old man. Al cannot. He can't take the time for self-pity (though for some reason he takes the time to school the mediots), or self-doubt, or a vacation. The dude has to be about turning this thing around.
Raider Bill
11-13-2009, 02:12 PM
Okay, then I'll rephrase what I meant. Lane Kiffin will never have the level of success required to even sniff a national championship.
He won't have the 2 decades it took Al to fall ass backward in to Gruden subsequent to 1983
Fuck the big collar and bell bottm historic bullshit. The fucking guy needs to hire someone familiar with football after 1972
Raiderpunk
11-13-2009, 08:24 PM
Ummmm, check something for me here, how would Al giving up the regins result in him having success? That would be removing himself from any possibility of success.
And therein lies Al's problem. If he turns control over now, he cements his legacy as the cause of the Raiders' recent failures. He HAS to turn it around before he bows out. So everyone hoping for his continued epic failure is hoping the Raiders continue to fail until he dies. And if his mother is any indication, he'll soldier on for quite some time.
You've gotta take a different approach to this thing. Take that to the bank!
By removing himself would gain tremendous success!...assuming he hires the right people to do the job....anything but him will do....lol
Now if he truly believes in "Just Win Baby!" then he can remove himself and the Raiders will truly "Just Win Baby!" Because he's the owner any Raider success is his success! But it will not happen with him at the helm period....take that to the bank!!!....lol
Raiderpunk
11-13-2009, 08:42 PM
We need to add some sort of indicator as to age on this forum. Youngsters are constantly posting ignorant things. I say that because someone who knows his NFL history wouldn't make this statement whether he is a fan of Al Davis or not. Davis has definitely lost his touch. There is no argument there. But to say that Lane Kiffin will have more success is just plain stupid. We are comparing an individual that was part and parcel to what we know as the NFL today to someone who is in his infancy as a head coach and not particularly doing very well. Unless you can guarantee that Kiffin takes Tennessee to at least 5 National Championships and wins at least three can you make this statement. Then again if Kiffin can hold down the head coaching position for the next forty years.....it maybe could happen. ;) Right?
You prove yourself to be stupid by assuming I'm young and for not fully reading what I said! I've been around since '65 and been a Raiders fan since the immaculate screw job! I was there at the pinnacle of this ONCE proud organization. And truthfully I've had a bone to pick with Kim Jung Al for quite awhile...you can fo back to the '80s for but that's another story.
I did start to notice our short cummings back in the days of Shell. I'm probably one of a few on this board that understood we were in trouble in the '90s from Al's Castro like grip on the organization. I thought he changed when he hired Gru.
Fools like you only think our problems started after the last SB. Heck dude, look at the facts going back to our last SB victory....before Gru we had a below .500 record and never sniffed another SB (except the 51-3 beating from the Bills) much less the playoffs. I don't remember off the top my head but I think we saw the playoffs 5 times before Gru. Gru was just a speed-bump.
Kiff will be a coach at some capacity for a long time...just like his dad. And where will Kim Jung Al be? We already now the answer to that don't we....lol Besides UT is already doing better than us and could probably beat us....lol I hope he wins a NC. I like the kid for outing Kim Jung Al for what he really is!
Raiderpunk
11-13-2009, 08:49 PM
I see it differently. Al KNOWS that it takes certain positions time to develop. WR and QB being notable in the development time.
If you take a step back and look at the offense, you see the entire collection of skill players is VERY young.
The reason Al demands that they start and play is because he wants them to develop.
If you think we've suffered through this decade, ask yourself what Al has gone through. Exactly, worse than any damned one of us. Much worse. Maybe your so-called friends like to laugh and poke fun at you because you're a Raider fan, but Al Davis IS the Raiders. And when the media, which Al watches (or has watched) closely ridicules him, it cuts to the bone (or have you missed all the oppotunities he's taken to shoot little jabs at them in recent years?).
So if Al, who truly lives and breathes Raiders, has the patience to undergo a couple more years of pain and suffering to turn this thing around, why don't you? You have less invested in it. You can step away and take a break. Turn off the TV, ignore the mediots, and complain about the old man. Al cannot. He can't take the time for self-pity (though for some reason he takes the time to school the mediots), or self-doubt, or a vacation. The dude has to be about turning this thing around.
Mooncalf, Kim Jung Al does not rebuild...he says it all the time! The Seymour trade is evidence of that! You don't make a trade like that unless you think you have what it takes to make a run at least to the playoffs. Not to mention the FA spree he went on a couple of years ago. I will bet everything I own he thought we could win the division and hoped that would springboard us on to bigger and better things next year.
Raiderpunk
11-13-2009, 08:51 PM
He won't have the 2 decades it took Al to fall ass backward in to Gruden subsequent to 1983
Fuck the big collar and bell bottm historic bullshit. The fucking guy needs to hire someone familiar with football after 1972
Right on bro!
Rupert
11-14-2009, 07:52 AM
Mooncalf, Kim Jung Al does not rebuild...he says it all the time! The Seymour trade is evidence of that! You don't make a trade like that unless you think you have what it takes to make a run at least to the playoffs. Not to mention the FA spree he went on a couple of years ago. I will bet everything I own he thought we could win the division and hoped that would springboard us on to bigger and better things next year.
Looked at the roster lately?
Looked at the ages of key starters or the age of key rotation guys?
That's a rebuild no matter how obtuse you want to be. No matter how many reports that the firing of Kiffin was about NOT starting kids.
Retain your desired lunacy if you like.
Raider Bill
11-14-2009, 08:39 AM
It was mainly about Russell, Kiffin didnt want him in the first place, and it looks like his take has been vindicated. Russell is terrible.
Al is on record saying Russell is fantastic, so there ya go.
Raiderpunk
11-14-2009, 08:19 PM
Looked at the roster lately?
Looked at the ages of key starters or the age of key rotation guys?
That's a rebuild no matter how obtuse you want to be. No matter how many reports that the firing of Kiffin was about NOT starting kids.
Retain your desired lunacy if you like.
Mooncalf, I was just repeating what Kim Jung Al says...he does not rebuild...lol Still does not detract that he believes which was we had the guns to win the AFC West. No matter, rebuild or not success will not happen under his reign. Get all the players you want but what still remains are his crippling flaws:
no accountability from his players and consistantly undermines his HC by not allowing discipline, basically just neuter the HC. Heck, Cable can't even run his Zone Blocking without some modification to make the old man happy. We had one of the best rushing offenses his first year that now that's gone....lol
4-3 man coverage only please! even with the success of the Philly game KJA (Kim Jung Al) won't allow it...sad because an aggressive D would at least allow us to be competitive.
bombs away...just throw it long. no game situation necessary just throw it long 5-7 times a game. hence get the fastest - no catching needed - wr in the draft! he was a fool for drafting DHB. Should've went O or D line. Wr is the riskest position to draft...and taking a guy that would've been around in the 3rd maybe and I mean a big maybe the 2nd is just plain dumb!
Btw, when do you see light at the end of the tunnel from all this rebuilding? 1, 2, maybe 3 years?....lol
Have faith all you want but that just makes you a mooncalf...lol
It will not change until the man gets out of the way and that aint happening so you might as well work on your excuse making because you're going to need some more...lol
hawaiianboy
11-15-2009, 09:01 AM
Mooncalf?.... About 18 of those "lol" stuffs....
Did Bones hold a membership drive in a bar located under power lines that serves arcenic laced beer this season or something?...
I swear I half expect that cross dressing Fang to wander in...
TheMadStork
11-15-2009, 09:37 AM
Looked at the roster lately?
Looked at the ages of key starters or the age of key rotation guys?
That's a rebuild no matter how obtuse you want to be. No matter how many reports that the firing of Kiffin was about NOT starting kids.
Retain your desired lunacy if you like.
However, if you're rebuilding, you generally don't trade what is most likely going to be a top 10 draft choice for a veteran in the walk year of his contract. In the context of rebuilding, the Seymour trade makes absolutely no sense.
Rupert
11-15-2009, 11:04 AM
However, if you're rebuilding, you generally don't trade what is most likely going to be a top 10 draft choice for a veteran in the walk year of his contract. In the context of rebuilding, the Seymour trade makes absolutely no sense.
1) I didn't say it was seamless.
2) How many times have people complained about needing a veteran (Javon Walker) WR to mentor (Javon Walker) the rookie WR's (Javon Walker)? I know we had Greg Ellis at the time, but is Greg Ellis the kind of guy to demonstrate power moves to DT's? Not really.
Now, we did have veteran QB's to uhhhh mentor Russell or were they here to start? Kiffin and Al have different opinions on that issue.
On the OL we have the seasoned vets (only Gallery is worth much) but no solid kids.
Asomugha is the vet in the secondary.
RB, I guess it's Fargas.
LB, whimper, Morrison.
Like I've said elsewhere, it all seemed to be leading up to bolstering the DT group until we got Seymore. Now it looks like we'll go OL and, gulp, CB. Please Al, don't listen to Cable again. Draft OL early. Oh GOD! :shakehead:
CrossBones
11-15-2009, 11:08 AM
Mooncalf?.... About 18 of those "lol" stuffs....
Did Bones hold a membership drive in a bar located under power lines that serves arcenic laced beer this season or something?...
I swear I half expect that cross dressing Fang to wander in...I'm never opening up the regitration again -- even for 10 minutres. We simply get buffoons by the dozen.
Jesus H. Christ. You get rid of two assholes and another one shows up. Mooncalf???? WTF? :shakehead:
Raiderpunk
11-15-2009, 07:54 PM
Mooncalf?.... About 18 of those "lol" stuffs....
Did Bones hold a membership drive in a bar located under power lines that serves arcenic laced beer this season or something?...
I swear I half expect that cross dressing Fang to wander in...
lololololololololololololololol
Raiderpunk
11-15-2009, 07:55 PM
I'm never opening up the regitration again -- even for 10 minutres. We simply get buffoons by the dozen.
Jesus H. Christ. You get rid of two assholes and another one shows up. Mooncalf???? WTF? :shakehead:
I didn't know "mooncalf" could make such a fuss...lolololololololololololololol
I have no idea what mooncalf means.
Raiderpunk
11-16-2009, 05:58 AM
I have no idea what mooncalf means.
I should let people stew on it for awhile but....it means foolish person....lol Maybe I should just curse and take the Lord's name in vein.
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