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RaiderJF
09-12-2009, 01:02 PM
This one is a little baffling... Chaz is out and looks like N Miller may be out also. Putting J Walker on inactive leaves us with DHB, Murphy, JLH, and Watkins. Its starting to look like Walker may not be around for much longer...

NIPS
09-12-2009, 01:05 PM
This one is a little baffling... Chaz is out and looks like N Miller may be out also. Putting J Walker on inactive leaves us with DHB, Murphy, JLH, and Watkins. Its starting to look like Walker may not be around for much longer...


What in the fuck of all fucks is wit this fuckin clown?

Man drop that MF'er and sign back Frantz Joseph

That MF'er is about as reliable as a rubber fuckin crutch

RaiderIVlife
09-12-2009, 01:06 PM
So much for the Raiders having "too many WR's". Funny how quickly things change.

RaiderRobert
09-12-2009, 01:08 PM
Lame. But it appears this is Cable's call, not Walker. I don't like it.

Postmaster
09-12-2009, 01:10 PM
I wonder if he will be jumping over bags on the sideline during the game.

RaiderIVlife
09-12-2009, 01:11 PM
Al Davis must really love Javon Walker. Really.

raiderdog
09-12-2009, 01:30 PM
Lame. But it appears this is Cable's call, not Walker. I don't like it.

Dude,

Maybe you should put Cable on your list with Seymour and Huff. That will show him who's boss.

RaiderRobert
09-12-2009, 01:34 PM
Dude,

Maybe you should put Cable on your list with Seymour and Huff. That will show him who's boss.

Really??? Ok. Dumbass...

Sleet
09-12-2009, 01:35 PM
I wonder if he will be jumping over bags on the sideline during the game.

That's why I read this board, to get a good laugh. Its easy to get busy at work and ignore all the fuckin negative shit. But you also miss the good one liners that make you laugh. Thanks PM.

Sleet
09-12-2009, 01:39 PM
This one is a little baffling... Chaz is out and looks like N Miller may be out also. Putting J Walker on inactive leaves us with DHB, Murphy, JLH, and Watkins. Its starting to look like Walker may not be around for much longer...

To me it means that the Raiders would rather (1) split McFadden out wide with Bush in the backfield and (2) run a double TE set than play Walker. Watkins is there for special teams and insurance. JLH is there for 3rd downs. McFadden and Myers/Stewart will see more snaps spelling DHB and Murphy.

Postmaster
09-12-2009, 01:39 PM
Really??? Ok. Dumbass...

Robert I have a few Prozac pills left. Give me your address and I will over night them.

Postmaster
09-12-2009, 01:41 PM
To me it means that the Raiders would rather (1) split McFadden out wide with Bush in the backfield and (2) run a double TE set than play Walker. Watkins is there for special teams and insurance. JLH is there for 3rd downs. McFadden and Myers/Stewart will see more snaps spelling DHB and Murphy.

We have a winner.

raiderdog
09-12-2009, 01:43 PM
Really??? Ok. Dumbass...

I couldn't resist. LOL.

raiderdog
09-12-2009, 01:46 PM
Robert I have a few Prozac pills left. Give me your address and I will over night them.

PM,

Please do. Robert isn't going to make it to the first game before his head explodes. I'll send you my FedEx account #. Priority First please.

hawaiianboy
09-12-2009, 01:49 PM
Relying on one rookie starting at WR = risky
Relying on two starting rookie WR's = crazy


I get that Jovan looked like he was running in mud last time out and that he might have a case of the dead legs, but I'd rather have him available to play... Both of the rookie WR's have lost time to injury this offseason and Higgins weighs about a buck 70...

RaiderRobert
09-12-2009, 01:49 PM
Robert I have a few Prozac pills left. Give me your address and I will over night them.

1220 Harbor Bay Parkway
Alameda, CA 94502

RaiderRobert
09-12-2009, 01:51 PM
PM,

Please do. Robert isn't going to make it to the first game before his head explodes. I'll send you my FedEx account #. Priority First please.

Fuck, I thought we were having fun...

raiderdog
09-12-2009, 01:53 PM
Fuck, I thought we were having fun...

I am! It's a good day to be a Raider Fan. Hope springs eternal. It's a crapshoot as soon as the kickers foot makes contact with the ball in the Black Hole on Monday Night.

Postmaster
09-12-2009, 01:55 PM
1220 Harbor Bay Parkway
Alameda, CA 94502

:D

london raider 2
09-12-2009, 01:58 PM
Relying on one rookie starting at WR = risky
Relying on two starting rookie WR's = crazy


I get that Jovan looked like he was running in mud last time out and that he might have a case of the dead legs, but I'd rather have him available to play... Both of the rookie WR's have lost time to injury this offseason and Higgins weighs about a buck 70...

Yeah but according to Xplosive weve drafted the reincarnation of Jerry Rice/Tim Brown/Michael Irvin/Lynn Swann so shouldnt be a problem

Postmaster
09-12-2009, 02:01 PM
Yeah but according to Xplosive weve drafted the reincarnation of Jerry Rice/Tim Brown/Michael Irvin/Lynn Swann so shouldnt be a problem

Shit, Sherman Hemsley X hasn't been wrong yet. I am a true believer.

Madturk
09-12-2009, 02:02 PM
Walker is a shell of the player he once was. Somethings just not right with this guy. Anyone sign Matt Jones yet?

Postmaster
09-12-2009, 02:05 PM
Walker is a shell of the player he once was. Somethings just not right with this guy. Anyone sign Matt Jones yet?

Chaz should be back in week 2 or 3. We good.

DonkeyKilla
09-12-2009, 02:38 PM
Dude,

Maybe you should put Cable on your list with Seymour and Huff. That will show him who's boss.

Sorry RR but that shit was funny

RaiderRobert
09-12-2009, 02:42 PM
Sorry RR but that shit was funny

Meh.... But I knew it was a joke... Not as funny as the Chargers moving Merriman's locker out of the locker room because he wreaked of Tequila...

Raidervinny
09-12-2009, 02:43 PM
Of all the head-scratchers this one takes the cake. We have our 2nd best WR inactive and we are starting our 3rd best (Murphy) and our 8th best (DHB) who both just happen to be rookies. Who the fuck does that? This move has me pissed...it's like we aren't even trying to put forth a competitive team. What message does this send to the other players? We've just started a guy (DHB)who showed absolutely nothing in the preseason or practice that would indicate he was worthy of starting and sat our most experienced player on the bench. Russell needs to have at least one guy on the field who knows what the hell he is doing and can help him and Murphy. Stupidest move so far...and that's saying a lot.

Postmaster
09-12-2009, 02:45 PM
Of all the head-scratchers this one takes the cake. We have our 2nd best WR inactive and we are starting our 3rd best (Murphy) and our 8th best (DHB) who both just happen to be rookies. Who the fuck does that? This move has me pissed...it's like we aren't even trying to put forth a competitive team. What message does this send to the other players? We've just started a guy (DHB)who showed absolutely nothing in the preseason or practice that would indicate he was worthy of starting and sat our most experienced player on the bench. Russell needs to have at least one guy on the field who knows what the hell he is doing and can help him and Murphy. Stupidest move so far...and that's saying a lot.

2nd best WR? Based on sideline workouts? The guy is done and no bag jumping will change that.

DarthRaidor
09-12-2009, 02:49 PM
2nd best WR? Based on sideline workouts? The guy is done and no bag jumping will change that.

Cut Javon and sign Wade I tell ya!

Raidervinny
09-12-2009, 02:51 PM
2nd best WR? Based on sideline workouts? The guy is done and no bag jumping will change that.

Based on two seasons of over 1,000 yards receiving. Based on the fact that he's already done it at a Pro Bowl level in the NFL...something no other WR on our roster can say. Yes, he's had a major injury but he sure as hell didn't injur his hands. If he has 90% of the speed that he had prior to the injury then yes, he's hands down the 2nd best receiver on the squad. It seems that nobody here remember the Javon Walker that was one of the top young receivers in the NFL and forgets that he has already done more in this league than all of our WR's put together. IF he's healthy then he needs to be out there. Period...point blank.

Postmaster
09-12-2009, 02:52 PM
Cut Javon and sign Wade I tell ya!

:D

Postmaster
09-12-2009, 02:54 PM
Based on two seasons of over 1,000 yards receiving. Based on the fact that he's already done it at a Pro Bowl level in the NFL...something no other WR on our roster can say. Yes, he's had a major injury but he sure as hell didn't injur his hands. If he has 90% of the speed that he had prior to the injury then yes, he's hands down the 2nd best receiver on the squad. It seems that nobody here remember the Javon Walker that was one of the top young receivers in the NFL and forgets that he has already done more in this league than all of our WR's put together. IF he's healthy then he needs to be out there. Period...point blank.

Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Javon hasn't had a good year since 2005. He has had more surgeries than TD's since then. Players do decline as they age you know?

Raidervinny
09-12-2009, 02:57 PM
Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Javon hasn't had a good year since 2005. He has had more surgeries than TD's since then. Players do decline as they age you know?

Sure...but he's still young enough to come back successfully. Like I said, he has better hands and route running ability than anyone other than Schillens and even with some lost speed he's still better than anything else we have at this point. Someday Murphy might develop just as Chaz did but until then, we need a good veteran like Javon.

Crow
09-12-2009, 02:57 PM
Based on two seasons of over 1,000 yards receiving. Based on the fact that he's already done it at a Pro Bowl level in the NFL...something no other WR on our roster can say. Yes, he's had a major injury but he sure as hell didn't injur his hands. If he has 90% of the speed that he had prior to the injury then yes, he's hands down the 2nd best receiver on the squad. It seems that nobody here remember the Javon Walker that was one of the top young receivers in the NFL and forgets that he has already done more in this league than all of our WR's put together. IF he's healthy then he needs to be out there. Period...point blank.

Clinging to nothing here.

Walker, right now, is worthless. He's not even the team's 2nd best worthless player.

DarthRaidor
09-12-2009, 02:59 PM
Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Javon hasn't had a good year since 2005. He has had more surgeries than TD's since then. Players do decline as they age you know?

Not to mention the Vegas incident and the fact that Al had to beg him not to retire. If this guy isn't ready by now, we should cut bait, and sign someone even if it isn't Wade until Chaz comes back. Walker is being paid like a #2 at least and our rooks are beating him out to start? C'mon guys writing all over the fuckin wall here. What more do you need to see? :shrug:

Postmaster
09-12-2009, 03:00 PM
Sure...but he's still young enough to come back successfully. Like I said, he has better hands and route running ability than anyone other than Schillens and even with some lost speed he's still better than anything else we have at this point. Someday Murphy might develop just as Chaz did but until then, we need a good veteran like Javon.

Sorry Vinny, I will roll with Cable on this one. When we put the young guys in last year Jamarcus and the team were light years better than when we went with the vets.

DonkeyKilla
09-12-2009, 03:00 PM
I'm guessing you did not watch JW against Seattle? running in Mollases could not get open against 3rd string.
DHB and Murphy right now are the best 2 we got, that's why they are starting. DHB if nothing else has shown he can command double team or at least get the saftey's attention and clear things out underneath. If Murphy can hang on to the rock we'll be fine-dude gets open.
i have zero problem with this move. I have a major problem with the fact JW is on the team in the first place.

Crow
09-12-2009, 03:03 PM
Walker and good route running in the same breath...there's a first.

Raidervinny
09-12-2009, 03:58 PM
Not to mention the Vegas incident and the fact that Al had to beg him not to retire. If this guy isn't ready by now, we should cut bait, and sign someone even if it isn't Wade until Chaz comes back. Walker is being paid like a #2 at least and our rooks are beating him out to start? C'mon guys writing all over the fuckin wall here. What more do you need to see? :shrug:

:rolleyes: Please...our rooks have NOT beat out Walker. The only reason DHB is starting is because Al said so...not because he did anything to deserve it. With Schillens out we should be starting with Walker and Murphy. DHB has had the most underwhelming training camp and preseason of any of the WR's on our roster. He played WAY more minutes this preseason yet managed the same number of receptions as Walker...2. Wow.

Raidervinny
09-12-2009, 04:01 PM
Sorry Vinny, I will roll with Cable on this one. When we put the young guys in last year Jamarcus and the team were light years better than when we went with the vets.

I agree...but that was toward the end of the season. Even Schillens and his teammates agreed that he was lightyears from where he was at the beginning of the season.

If Murphy develops at the same pace Chaz did last year then I will have no problem with he and Chaz being the starting WR's come the end of the season. But, right now we are starting 2 rookies...which is fucking nuts...and on Monday night nonetheless. And one of those rookies is an incompetent fuck.

Raidervinny
09-12-2009, 04:02 PM
Walker and good route running in the same breath...there's a first.

Stupidest thing you've ever said...and that's saying a lot. Walker has always drawn praise for his route running.

Raidervinny
09-12-2009, 04:06 PM
I'm guessing you did not watch JW against Seattle? running in Mollases could not get open against 3rd string.
DHB and Murphy right now are the best 2 we got, that's why they are starting. DHB if nothing else has shown he can command double team or at least get the saftey's attention and clear things out underneath. If Murphy can hang on to the rock we'll be fine-dude gets open.
i have zero problem with this move. I have a major problem with the fact JW is on the team in the first place.

Like I said...I have no problem with Murphy...the guy has shown he can get open. He needs to learn to hang onto the ball but at least he can catch. It's DHB that i have a problem with. He runs 2 routes...the slant and the go...he won't stand a chance against Cromartie. With Walker out there at least Russell would have a seasoned veteran out there that he could rely on. Walker knows how to get open, understand how to work zone coverage and can actually catch the fuckin' ball. Once Schillens gets back I would have no problem trotting out a starting tandem of he and Murphy. But until that happens we have no business starting DHB over Walker.

DonkeyKilla
09-12-2009, 04:13 PM
i guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Walker looks like he needs a Walker.
DHB runs a 4.fucking fast and has been working the plays with JR all camp. No brainer to me.
DHB will in part be to clear shit out and he will be effective in doing so, JR is not going to scare anyone. DHB can also take a reverse or a quick slant.. i just have no problem running with him, maybe he will surprise you.

Xplosive
09-12-2009, 04:16 PM
walker better watch his attitude & start speeding up or, the Raiders will have a new spot open.


Geaux Raiders

X

Raidervinny
09-12-2009, 04:16 PM
i guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Walker looks like he needs a Walker.
DHB runs a 4.fucking fast and has been working the plays with JR all camp. No brainer to me.
DHB will in part be to clear shit out and he will be effective in doing so, JR is not going to scare anyone. DHB can also take a reverse or a quick slant.. i just have no problem running with him, maybe he will surprise you.

No problem DK...we just don't see eye to eye on this one.

DarthRaidor
09-12-2009, 05:03 PM
:rolleyes: Please...our rooks have NOT beat out Walker. The only reason DHB is starting is because Al said so...not because he did anything to deserve it. With Schillens out we should be starting with Walker and Murphy. DHB has had the most underwhelming training camp and preseason of any of the WR's on our roster. He played WAY more minutes this preseason yet managed the same number of receptions as Walker...2. Wow.

C'mon Vinny, If what your sayin is true, why aren't the starting WR's DHB and Murphy? JW is done bro. The sooner Oak gets real about this, the faster they will be a better team.

Raidervinny
09-12-2009, 06:02 PM
C'mon Vinny, If what your sayin is true, why aren't the starting WR's DHB and Murphy? JW is done bro. The sooner Oak gets real about this, the faster they will be a better team.

Thee starters should be Schillens & Walker but Chaz is injured. If Murphy progresses like I think he can he should be the 2nd receiver by week 9 or 10...with Javon & JLH sharing #3 duties. DHB shouldn't be on the field for more than 6-8 plays.

We need Walker so I hope that the're just being cautious. Still....starting two rookies on Monday night is just asking for trouble.

DonkeyKilla
09-12-2009, 06:25 PM
Seriously Vinny what have you seen out of Walker that makes you feel this way?
dude is crusty and slow. No thanks, i'll roll with the kids. It's kinda like calling for Garcia only worse... Garcia could probably still play and can't say the same for Walker.

DarthRaidor
09-12-2009, 06:37 PM
Seriously Vinny what have you seen out of Walker that makes you feel this way?
dude is crusty and slow. No thanks, i'll roll with the kids. It's kinda like calling for Garcia only worse... Garcia could probably still play and can't say the same for Walker.

Exactly! I think Vinny is having 2005 flashbacks of Javon and basing his opinion of need for him on that. Walker has shown nothing since he's been a Raider. Except his ability to steal game checks from Al while delivering absolutely fuckall. Haven't we had enough of complete chumps coming to get a fat payday from good old Al? How will the Raiders ever change this climate of perrinial losers if we don't get rid of the losers in the 1st place?

Diceq
09-12-2009, 06:52 PM
Who do you guys figure will return kickoffs with Miller out and Justin Miller cut...JLH?

raiderdog
09-12-2009, 06:54 PM
Who do you guys figure will return kickoffs with Miller out and Justin Miller cut...JLH?

Rankin. Did it in College at UW. He will be fine.

Raidervinny
09-12-2009, 06:55 PM
Seriously Vinny what have you seen out of Walker that makes you feel this way?
dude is crusty and slow. No thanks, i'll roll with the kids. It's kinda like calling for Garcia only worse... Garcia could probably still play and can't say the same for Walker.

I think it's sad that the folks here have forgotten just how good Javon is. His last healthy year with the Broncos he had over 1000 yds receving plus had a 70+ yard TD on a reverse. He's been injured...he's not the 1st guy this has happened to. it's not like the dude was chopped liver before he went down. Plus it's not like the guy is in his late 30's or on the downside of his career. He's the same age as Semour for cryin out loud. As for being slow...I bet he still runs a sub 4.5 40. The guy was a beast...he's been injured...but I would lovevto see what he can do if he' healthy now. I just think a lot of you are writing him off too soon. Hell, Curry sufferred back to back devastating injuries & he came back and managed to give us a few productive years...and he wasn't nearly the receiver Javon is.

DarthRaidor
09-12-2009, 07:13 PM
I think it's sad that the folks here have forgotten just how good Javon is. His last healthy year with the Broncos he had over 1000 yds receving plus had a 70+ yard TD on a reverse. He's been injured...he's not the 1st guy this has happened to. it's not like the dude was chopped liver before he went down. Plus it's not like the guy is in his late 30's or on the downside of his career. He's the same age as Semour for cryin out loud. As for being slow...I bet he still runs a sub 4.5 40. The guy was a beast...he's been injured...but I would lovevto see what he can do if he' healthy now. I just think a lot of you are writing him off too soon. Hell, Curry sufferred back to back devastating injuries & he came back and managed to give us a few productive years...and he wasn't nearly the receiver Javon is.

It's easy to forget how good someone is when they haven't been good in over 4 years. I hate to say it but that is exactly what I'm saying as far as the problems that plague our team. For far too long Al has given fat contracts to guys based on what they did instead of what they can still do. We are going into our 2nd season with JW and he still isn't healthy enough to contribute. All of the stats your quoting are stats from at least 4 years ago. Well 4 years ago Marvin Harrison was the best WR in the NFL, where is he now?

Raidervinny
09-12-2009, 07:52 PM
It's easy to forget how good someone is when they haven't been good in over 4 years. I hate to say it but that is exactly what I'm saying as far as the problems that plague our team. For far too long Al has given fat contracts to guys based on what they did instead of what they can still do. We are going into our 2nd season with JW and he still isn't healthy enough to contribute. All of the stats your quoting are stats from at least 4 years ago. Well 4 years ago Marvin Harrison was the best WR in the NFL, where is he now?

It's been 3 not 4. Marvins 36...Javon is 29. Javon should not have tried to play last year & Al should not have given him that Monster contract. It usually takes a couple years to come back from that type of injury. Had he not tried to play & justify that contract he would have been good to go. Like I said...we gave more chances to Curry (and more fans were actually behind him) and he wasn't near the receiver. I can't wait until we turn him loose out there on the field...he's gonna be a stud this year.

DarthRaidor
09-12-2009, 07:59 PM
It's been 3 not 4. Marvins 36...Javon is 29. Javon should not have tried to play last year & Al should not have given him that Monster contract. It usually takes a couple years to come back from that type of injury. Had he not tried to play & justify that contract he would have been good to go. Like I said...we gave more chances to Curry (and more fans were actually behind him) and he wasn't near the receiver. I can't wait until we turn him loose out there on the field...he's gonna be a stud this year.

I hear what your sayin Vinny and believe me if I had seen evidence to the contrary I'd be right there with ya, but I just haven't and unfortunately for all of us due to his health there's no telling when or even if we'll be able to turn this "stud" loose.

RaiderJF
09-12-2009, 08:19 PM
Vinny, I am with you on this one. Awfully scary situation to be starting 2 rookie wrs. WR is one of the toughest positions for a rookie player to learn and contribute at. I could see working DHB and Murphy into the mix, but to give them the starting jobs on day 1 is either crazy or a very sad situation / statement about the team at that position. You know it would be one thing if DHB and Murphy tore it up in preseason and really deserved the nod. But Murphy had ball security issues and DHB was pretty non-existent in his preseason opportunities. Tough situation for JRuss... High expectations for him to show some serious improvement this year, but he is saddled with 2 rookie wideouts. Sounds like a recipe for disaster...

As for Walker, I am not sure how anyone could make any reasonable evaluation of him given his few snaps vs Seattle. I know we need to give Cable the benefit of the doubt as he sees him every day in practice, but interestingly the Raider beat writers all seemed to think that Walker looked better in practice than everyone other than Schilens. So it is a bit disappointing to hear that he won't even be active in a game where we are shorthanded at wideout.

And, overall the dicussion in this thread is mostly making my point... if Javon can't even get on the field when we are short-handed, how would it make sense for him to be around in a couple of weeks when Schillens returns?? Generally you don't keep a high-priced vet around to be your third-stringer...

DonkeyKilla
09-12-2009, 08:46 PM
Javon will stay because they hope he can come back but the fact is he hasn't shown shit, nada in Oakland. Please do give Cable the benefit of watching this guy in practice. He either a. thinks he's not back enough to help or b. thinks he's not ever going to be back enough to help. Either way what have you seen to make you think otherwise? I saw a guy that didn't get open agaisn't Seattle's third string.

RaiderIVlife
09-12-2009, 09:00 PM
Vinny - I think you're arguement for Walker has some theorethical merit, even if it is a bit optimistic. Hell, I hope you're right.

I don't like the idea of starting 2 rooks at WR either. Must mean a heavy dose of McFadden, Bush, TE's with the rooks "clearing" things out with numerous deep routes?

hopefully Walker will pay dividends later, but even I have my doubts here...

Abelardo
09-12-2009, 09:32 PM
The scenario has not changed very much compared to last year. We will see some some situations repeat. We shouldn't be that surprised we don't have WRs, it's probably the Koolaid hangover. We never had them. Only one legitimate starter and he is injured. Last year the Raiders had minor contribution from the WRs. They will have a few more catches than last year, but that's all.

I think the trend set last year will remain the same, Miller as the main target, and addittionally, as everybody wishes, a majority of plays for McFadden. As usual, drives will be short.

So WRs will have no more then 10 or 15 thrown balls coming their way in the next games, still several plays will be long attempts as usual.

Yvonne Walker is a failure. Dunno why he still has followers. Nobody denies his contributions to Denver but here were still waiting for him to show something. Then he still has to show something big in his game, cos he makes that kinda money. If he ever gets ready, it will be probably a little bit too late.

Raider Bill
09-12-2009, 09:38 PM
I can only think of 1 team that ran 2 rookie WR's out there. Buddy Ryan's 1990(?) Eagles with Calvin Williams and Fred Barnett.

007
09-12-2009, 10:46 PM
I didnt want to make another thread, but did many people see Kenny Britt on Thursday?

For a 20 year old KID, he looked very good.

I heard Jeff Fisher on Friday interviewing with Kirwan on Sirius, and Fisher was pretty funny about it. The long and short of it was: Well, we wanted to ease him in and keep him behind Gage and Washington, but the dude just gets open.

That guy is a natural. I think he might become a Collins favorite soon. Very soon.

Crow
09-13-2009, 12:59 AM
Stupidest thing you've ever said...and that's saying a lot. Walker has always drawn praise for his route running.

You're either a liar or just ignorant. Pick one.

In Green Bay, the only time he was ever worth a shit, his route running was the weakest part of his game. Well, that and being a headcase.

Crow
09-13-2009, 01:01 AM
With your overall senseless homering for a guy who hasn't done shit in years, I'm guessing just flat out ignorant.

Sleet
09-13-2009, 05:41 AM
With your overall senseless homering for a guy who hasn't done shit in years, I'm guessing just flat out ignorant.

Senseless? :confused:

You're the most ignored guy on this board. But you keep posting as if anybody cares WTF you say anymore. :pound:

What a fraud. :D

raiderdog
09-16-2009, 03:59 PM
Cable after practice

Cable said Walker had returned punts earlier in his career, but his stats show 35 kickoff returns as a rookie for 769 yards and nothing since.

They would be counted on to do more than simply throw up their hand, signaling for a fair catch.

“You’ve got to have your return game, and you’ve got to do your deal,” Cable said. “Hiram’s a terrific catcher, and probably the best of the group in that regard. And then obviously with Javon having done it earlier in his career. It’s a benefit to us now that with the injuries, he’s gonna be active this week, play, all those things. So we’ll have him available.”

– As noted above, Cable committed to activating Walker against the Chiefs a day after saying the reciever would need to exhibit enough speed and separation to be effective.

That will come as welcome news to Walker, who said he didn’t know if he would be active during the open locker room session and was willing to wait patiently for a chance.

“I feel like I am a receiver still in my prime. I am still young just 30 years old. A lot of the top receivers are my age or a year older. Its kind of difficult because I am in a situation where all the receivers here are a year or two years,” Walker said. “That is just the politics of football and you got some young guys, and I mean young. If you look at it statistically everybody here is young. That might be the direction they are going in. I am just playing my role for what it is right now.”

massraider
09-16-2009, 04:24 PM
I would love to see Walker on the field, but returning punts? :eek:

Raidervinny
09-16-2009, 04:46 PM
You're either a liar or just ignorant. Pick one.

In Green Bay, the only time he was ever worth a shit, his route running was the weakest part of his game. Well, that and being a headcase.

I take it back...THAT'S the stupidest thing you've ever said. Congratulations Crow...you've outdone yourself.

CrossBones
09-16-2009, 05:05 PM
I would love to see Walker on the field, but returning punts? :eek:So he isn't healthy enough to play WR but we're throwing him in to return punts. OK. I guess. Whatever works.

Walker had been another disaster. But picking up FA's is a crap shoot only outdone by the draft. Win some lose some.

DarthRaidor
09-16-2009, 05:19 PM
I said we should cut him and sign Baskett. He tall he runs a 4.4 and he can catch.

hawaiianboy
09-16-2009, 05:31 PM
Can't we sign Dante Hall till Higgins is okay or something... After watching Sproles, I want my own midget back there...

Raider Bill
09-16-2009, 07:01 PM
I said we should cut him and sign Baskett. He tall he runs a 4.4 and he can catch.

Dude... Hank friggin Baskett is no savior

Sleet
09-16-2009, 07:20 PM
The problem is the Schilens, Murphy and Walker play the same position. I get the difference between an "X" and "Y" receivers, and DHB's role is to stretch the field and block, but, please, when Schilens comes back, we need him and Murphy on the field, together, at least some of the time. It can't be that hard to move Murphy to DHB's position. Its not like Barners moving to RT, is it?

DarthRaidor
09-16-2009, 07:30 PM
Dude... Hank friggin Baskett is no savior

Never called him a saviour :rolleyes:. He is better than DHB though, without question.