Raiders cuts

[Langlier]

I'll post em here when I get the list.

hearing "good chance" Garcia is cut.

[DonkeyKilla]

i'd way rather roll with Gradkowski and Frye. If we need to go to Garcia we are fucked anyway and Gradkowski looks like a younger version of JG.

[Xplosive]

lol Happy about the Raiders cuts for once lol...



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[hawaiianboy]

lol Happy about the Raiders cuts for once lol...



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What does this mean?

[Raidermania12]

What does this mean?

the same thing calling Dhb a beast after no catches in the seattle game(. Nothing. I'd prefer to keep garcia, but in reality frye and gradkowski have both proven to b solid back ups so far.

[Crow]

What does this mean?

It means he and Willis know who got cut but aren't telling anyone. :rolleyes:

[Madturk]

Yeah no shit. It better not mean that the Terd survived the cuts.

[DarkDays]

The terd wont flush?

[Rupert]

Yeah no shit. It better not mean that the Terd survived the cuts.

Less negativity and more bouncing.

[GRIM]

What does this mean?

It means that he thinks it's a good thing re; Garcia being cut.

I think.

[DarkDays]

.
Jerrymcd Cardinals cut C Melvin Fowler, who visited Raiders at beginning of free agency before signing with Arizona.36 minutes ago from TweetDeck

Jerrymcd Steelers cut OLB Bruce Davis, 3rd-rd pick UCLA in 2008. Davis was college pass rusher and he's a legacy _ dad is ex-Raider OT Bruce Davis40 minutes ago from

JerrymcdChiefs cut RT Damion McIntosh, a 16-game starter who once negotiated with Raiders before signing with Dolphins in 2004 . . . McIntosh was going to sign with the Raiders in 2004 but failed a physical. He then passed a physical in Miami and has 74 starts since then.about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck

[Rupert]

Is it just me or does Jerry Mc seem like less of a dick on twitter?

[Raider Outlaw]

I saw bruce's cut earlier, but I don't think he can help us now. Maybe they'd put him on the ps. He should still be eligible. Fowler sounds intriguing because I think Cable's itching to dump Satele if he can get a quick study behind morris. I never knew he visited.


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[Sleet]

I saw bruce's cut earlier, but I don't think he can help us now. Maybe they'd put him on the ps. He should still be eligible. Fowler sounds intriguing because I think Cable's itching to dump Satele if he can get a quick study behind morris. I never knew he visited.

Boy, Parcells spent $$$ for Grove > Al/Cable trading 6th round pick for Satele

[Crow]

Less negativity and more bouncing.

They bounce no matter what he says. Just let your head bob with them and rep him for posting anything at all.

[Crow]

Is it just me or does Jerry Mc seem like less of a dick on twitter?

"Clank."

Maybe, maybe not. He tells it like it is, though. Gotta appreciate the man.

[Langlier]

"Clank."

Maybe, maybe not. He tells it like it is, though. Gotta appreciate the man.

i'm actually a big fan of jerrymcd in any format...

he's not a sugarcoat it kinda guy.

[Crow]

i'm actually a big fan of jerrymcd in any format...

he's not a sugarcoat it kinda guy.

Exactly. When the bad leads to worse, you can tell it's becoming a chore for him to even write the shit up. Although, I think he may have been cracking himself up a little with the short & sweet twittering. He and David White seemed to make a game of it. I admire their adaptability.

[RaiderRobert]

Go get Bruce Davis. He is raw, but has a ton of upside. I'm sure someone is gonna bring up the point that he may not if Pit dropped him, but I'm telling you this kid has a motor, and would be a good kid to stick on our PS...

[Crow]

He flopped as a LB. He'd be a rush end in Oakland. I'd love to give the kid a chance. Thought he was a good nickel prospect coming out.

[Raider Outlaw]

I don't think he's ever a dick. he's a self confessed Raider fan from the glory years, but he's objective. It's why I began reading him a few years ago, he shoots it straight.


Is it just me or does Jerry Mc seem like less of a dick on twitter?

[RaiderRobert]

He flopped as a LB. He'd be a rush end in Oakland. I'd love to give the kid a chance. Thought he was a good nickel prospect coming out.

IIRC he was a DE at UCLA, and was a beast. He spent months training specifically for OLB because he was told he would translate to a 3-4 OLB as a rush end. He busted his ass. Thyere was a documentary on him by NFLN. This kid is a hard worker, and he could very well turn out to be a very good weakside rush end...

[Crow]

Indeed. But, they'd have to carry 5 DEs. As unimpressive as Richardson was last season, they almost have to keep him. The slow rookie, Ellis, and Scott all seem like they're going to be here.

I dunno how he did on STs. I'd still like to have him brought in for a look, though.

I'd be surprised if Davis clears waivers. Some D-line coach must be begging for a chance to develop the kid.

[massraider]

Indeed. But, they'd have to carry 5 DEs. As unimpressive as Richardson was last season, they almost have to keep him. The slow rookie, Ellis, and Scott all seem like they're going to be here.

I dunno how he did on STs. I'd still like to have him brought in for a look, though.

I'd be surprised if Davis clears waivers. Some D-line coach must be begging for a chance to develop the kid.

I am looking for anyone to take Alston's spot.

And I am probably jumping the gun on the guy, but do we need a teeny SLB? I'd much rather have a guy that can do ONE thing well (like say....rush the passer) and help the team, than some swell guy who plays ST, and plays SLB badly. We already have Sammy Pushup.

[Throne Raider]

I garn tee you(As Festus used to say) that X-plosive knows who is being visited by the Turk.

Question: Who would be the biggest shocker, getting cut? I can't call it. But I will be ticked if Rankin is not on the team, dont' care how many running backs we have to carry. HE can play defense too from what I saw last night!

[Langlier]

I garn tee you(As Festus used to say) that X-plosive knows who is being visited by the Turk.

Question: Who would be the biggest shocker, getting cut? I can't call it. But I will be ticked if Rankin is not on the team, dont' care how many running backs we have to carry. HE can play defense too from what I saw last night!

i've got a good guess at the list. it's going to depend on who comes available though. right now we're looking at making 4-5 signings/acquisitions that may affect who we let go.

[MasterRaider]

I heard we may be shopping Garcia...I would love it if we could trade Garcia & Fargas for something and then keep Gradkowski, Frye & Rankin

[Langlier]

I heard we may be shopping Garcia...I would love it if we could trade Garcia & Fargas for something and then keep Gradkowski, Frye & Rankin

its quite likely that garcia is gone. fargas i'm not sure about. there's a "chance" we keep only 2 QBs

[MasterRaider]

When do the cuts have to be made by again? I hate waiting on these things because the Raiders are always last to report...

[Langlier]

When do the cuts have to be made by again? I hate waiting on these things because the Raiders are always last to report...

tomorrow evening. there were more preseason games tonight

[Crow]

I am looking for anyone to take Alston's spot.

And I am probably jumping the gun on the guy, but do we need a teeny SLB? I'd much rather have a guy that can do ONE thing well (like say....rush the passer) and help the team, than some swell guy who plays ST, and plays SLB badly. We already have Sammy Pushup.

Seems like they'd at least give Alston some reps at WILL, where's clearly better suited. But, eh. I suppose you can find a backup WILL anywhere, should the need arise. Slade Norris, even.

Davis certainly wouldn't do anything for the run defense, but he might be able to impact the hilariously generous 3rd & long defense.

I garn tee you(As Festus used to say) that X-plosive knows who is being visited by the Turk.

If you say so.

[Crow]

its quite likely that garcia is gone. fargas i'm not sure about. there's a "chance" we keep only 2 QBs

A foolish move with pass protection this questionable.

[Langlier]

A foolish move with pass protection this questionable.

nothing definative at this point. it would take quite a few things falling perfectly into place.

[Postmaster]

i've got a good guess at the list. it's going to depend on who comes available though. right now we're looking at making 4-5 signings/acquisitions that may affect who we let go.

Do you have any names or positions?

[Langlier]

Do you have any names or positions?

not "official" yet but I can give you a list in a bit - busy atm

[Crow]

Not that I'd expect him to change the dynamic of the defense, but the name "Boone" certainly wouldn't spoil the mood.

[Langlier]

Not that I'd expect him to change the dynamic of the defense, but the name "Boone" certainly wouldn't spoil the mood.

i'm hearing he's all but signed. we're just waiting to announce with the cuts tomorrow.

[hawaiianboy]

I garn tee you(As Festus used to say) that X-plosive knows who is being visited by the Turk.


Well as Grandpa Bones (Festus classmate) says, "If you've got it, spill it or just STFU about it already."...

That I know something you don't know or claiming inside info after it's already out doesn't play well here...

[Crow]

Premium membership, baybee! I've been telling Bones to jump on this goldmine. He won't listen.

[Langlier]

guys on the "roster bubble"

55 Jon Alston LB 6-0 235 26 4 Stanford Shreveport, LA
32 Rashad Baker S 5-10 200 27 7 Tennessee Camden, NJ
73 Ryan Boschetti DT 6-4 310 27 6 UCLA Belmont, CA
35 John Bowie CB 5-11 190 25 3 Cincinnati Columbus, OH
30 Jerome Boyd S 6-2 225 23 R Oregon Los Angeles
39 Darrick Brown DB 6-4 200 25 2 McNeese State Tangipahoa, LA
57 Ricky Brown LB 6-2 235 25 4 Boston College Cincinnati
3 Charlie Frye QB 6-4 220 28 5 Akron Willard, OH
7 Jeff Garcia QB 6-1 205 39 11 San Jose State Gilroy, CA
5 Bruce Gradkowski QB 6-1 220 26 4 Toledo Pittsburgh, PA
74 Cornell Green T 6-6 315 33 10 Central Florida St. Petersburg, FL
56 Morlon Greenwood LB 6-0 240 31 9 Syracuse
97 Greyson Gunheim DE 6-5 265 23 2 Washington Sebastopol, CA
36 Michael Hawkins CB 6-1 185 26 4 Oklahoma Carrollton, TX
15 Johnnie Lee Higgins WR 5-11 185 25 3 UTEP Sweeny, TX
10 Jonathan Holland WR 6-1 195 24 2 Louisiana Tech Archibald, LA
24 Michael Huff S 6-1 205 26 4 Texas Irving, TX
94 William Joseph DT 6-5 310 30 6 Miami (Fla.) Miami, FL
44 Luke Lawton FB 6-0 240 29 4 McNeese State New Iberia, La
69 James Marten T 6-8 310 25 3 Boston College Indianapolis, IN
79 Paul McQuistan G 6-6 315 26 3 Weber State Lebanon, OR
22 Justin Miller DB 5-10 195 25 5 Clemson Owensboro, KY
89 Nick Miller WR 5-9 180 22 R Southern Utah Mesa, AZ
48 David Nixon LB 6-3 225 24 R BYU College Station, TX
42 Chris O'Neill LB 6-3 250 23 R Boise State Orinda, CA
40 Louis Rankin RB 6-1 205 24 1 Washington Stockton, CA
45 Marcel Reece FB 6-3 240 24 1 Washington Hesperia, CA
23 Gary Russell RB 5-11 215 22 3 Minnesota Columbus, OH
90 Terdell Sands DT 6-7 335 29 7 Tenn.-Chattanooga Chattanooga, TN
64 Samson Satele C 6-3 300 24 3 Hawaii Kailua, HI
4 Ricky Schmitt P 6-3 210 24 1 Shepherd Salem, Virginia
82 Darrell Strong TE 6-5 265 23 1 Pittsburgh Ft. Lauderdale, FL
71 John Wade C 6-5 300 34 12 Marshall Harrisonburg, VA
84 Javon Walker WR 6-3 215 30 8 Florida State Lafayette, La.
65 Seth Wand T 6-7 330 30 6 N.W. Missouri State Springfield, MO
19 Todd Watkins WR 6-2 190 26 2 BYU San Diego, CA
54 Sam Williams LB 6-5 260 29 7 Fresno State Clayton, Calif.
63 Mark Wilson T 6-7 320 28 2 California

those were the names that came up as guys that needed to have good weeks/injuries to make the team.

[Postmaster]

guys on the "roster bubble"

15 Johnnie Lee Higgins WR 5-11 185 25 3 UTEP Sweeny, TX


those were the names that came up as guys that needed to have good weeks/injuries to make the team.

Only surprise for me.

[Langlier]

Only surprise for me.

he's likely to make the team at least for the first few weeks (until chaz is healthy) but really he's lost his starting position and his punt return contributions aren't up to par.

[RaiderRobert]

Only surprise for me.

Shouldn't be...

[raiderfreak7]

I at least like that I saw two offensive line starters on that list in Green and Satele. Gives me hope that we'll attempt to improve those positions as soon as possible.

[hawaiianboy]

those were the names that came up as guys that needed to have good weeks/injuries to make the team.

That's literally half the current roster...

[Langlier]

That's literally half the current roster...

we arent a talented team bro. this was 1.5 weeks ago when i heard the names. i can probably figure a few of the names that got off this list.

[Postmaster]

Shouldn't be...

He did score 7 TD's last year to lead the team.

I guess you didn't like his preseason?

[RaiderRobert]

He did score 7 TD's last year to lead the team.

I guess you didn't like his preseason?

I like his potential as trade bait better than I like what he does for us. I think Nick Miller can do all that he does. But it could be my personal preference, and my vision as an armchair gm...

[Postmaster]

I like his potential as trade bait better than I like what he does for us. I think Nick Miller can do all that he does. But it could be my personal preference, and my vision as an armchair gm...

I seriously doubt Nick Miller will ever score 7 TD's in a season let alone in his entire NFL career. But you never know.

[RaiderRobert]

I seriously doubt Nick Miller will ever score 7 TD's in a season let alone in his entire NFL career. But you never know.

People said the same thing about Wes Welker before NE traded for him... Last night, he showed me that he is a dangerous returner. He has also shown some promise as a receiver. Remember that the rules changed about returns, so ALL returners suffer this year from last.

I have a point of view for the future, so I tend to look that way, instead of everyone else who only thinks about right now... I could be wrong...

[Postmaster]

People said the same thing about Wes Welker before NE traded for him... Last night, he showed me that he is a dangerous returner. He has also shown some promise as a receiver. Remember that the rules changed about returns, so ALL returners suffer this year from last.

I have a point of view for the future, so I tend to look that way, instead of everyone else who only thinks about right now... I could be wrong...

Hey if he turns into to Welker or anything close to Welker I will be a huge fan, but by 6pm EST tomorrow there is a pretty good chance he will be unemployed.

[RaiderRobert]

Hey if he turns into to Welker or anything close to Welker I will be a huge fan, but by 6pm EST tomorrow there is a pretty good chance he will be unemployed.

Just on the OFF chance that X happens to be Xplosive, I'm just trying to make my case for SMART decisions.

If we dump Nick Miller, there are alot of teams that will see him for what he is, and we will have blown ANOTHER opportunity. I will be crushed... AGAIN...

[Langlier]

Just on the OFF chance that X happens to be Xplosive, I'm just trying to make my case for SMART decisions.

If we dump Nick Miller, there are alot of teams that will see him for what he is, and we will have blown ANOTHER opportunity. I will be crushed... AGAIN...

nick isnt that special dude... i can find 3-4 FAs that have the same skillset...

[raiderfreak7]

My 53:

QB (3): Russell, Gradkowski, Frye

RB (3): McFadden, Bush, Fargas

FB (2): O'Neal, G. Russell

WR (6): Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Schilens, Walker, Higgins, N. Miller

TE (3): Miller, Myers, Stewart

OL (9): Henderson, Green, Pears, Gallery, Carlisle, Satele, Morris, Barnes, McQuistan

DL (8): Ellis, Scott, Warren, Kelly, Bryant, Joseph, Shaughnessy, Richardson

LB (7): Morrison, Howard, Brown, Norris, Alston, Greenwood, Ekejiuba

DB (8): Asomugha, Johnson, Routt, Branch, Eugene, Mitchell, Huff, J. Miller

P: Lechler

K: Janikowski

LS: Condo

[RaiderRobert]

nick isnt that special dude... i can find 3-4 FAs that have the same skillset...

Not that are already here, and know our system, and that will come that cheap, you don't...

[RaiderRobert]

nick isnt that special dude... i can find 3-4 FAs that have the same skillset...

My BAD, I've been drinking... I meant if Xplosive happens to be Al Davis...

[RaiderIVlife]

I garn tee you(As Festus used to say) that X-plosive knows who is being visited by the Turk.

Question: Who would be the biggest shocker, getting cut? I can't call it. But I will be ticked if Rankin is not on the team, dont' care how many running backs we have to carry. HE can play defense too from what I saw last night!

I think the "shocker" release would be a toss up between Justin Fargas (Definition of Raider Warrior) or Jeff Garcia (touted by many as our best QB).

Take your pick.

[Langlier]

I think the "shocker" release would be a toss up between Justin Fargas (Definition of Raider Warrior) or Jeff Garcia (touted by many as our best QB).

Take your pick.

haven't heard anything about a fargas release. too valuable "at this moment". its not out of the question that he's moved however.

[RaiderRobert]

haven't heard anything about a fargas release. too valuable "at this moment". its not out of the question that he's moved however.

"Release" would suck as compared to "trade"...

[TheNextStep]

People said the same thing about Wes Welker before NE traded for him... Last night, he showed me that he is a dangerous returner. He has also shown some promise as a receiver. Remember that the rules changed about returns, so ALL returners suffer this year from last.

I have a point of view for the future, so I tend to look that way, instead of everyone else who only thinks about right now... I could be wrong...

Everyone else only thinks about right now?


Seriously?

[RaiderRobert]

Everyone else only thinks about right now?


Seriously?

Haven't been here much lately?

[RaiderIVlife]

My darkhorse release would Oren O'Neil. Being that we already released LoNeal, but he doesn't seem "back" to me and if the Raiders view Reece as a "weapon" at FB, we could easily take him over Oren and keep Gary Russell to back him up.

Disclaimer: If someone else has previously voiced this theory, I'm not trying to steal your thunder, I just haven't read it.

[TheNextStep]

Haven't been here much lately?
Just seems awfully self-congratulatory to me.





I like girls, so I tend to look that way, unlike everyone else who only thinks about boys...

[raiderfreak7]

My darkhorse release would Oren O'Neil. Being that we already released LoNeal, but he doesn't seem "back" to me and if the Raiders view Reece as a "weapon" at FB, we could easily take him over Oren and keep Gary Russell to back him up.

Disclaimer: If someone else has previously voiced this theory, I'm not trying to steal your thunder, I just haven't read it.

If we do that I'd be pissed. Get all those talented running backs, install an offensive scheme fit for running the ball, and have a lead blocker who was a wide receiver in college and looks terrible as a lead blocker? Uh uh. Not doing it for me.

If Reece makes the squad it's not in a starting role, I hope. Too one dimensional at this point in his career and would just hurt our rushing offense overall, especially in short yardage situations.

[Raider Outlaw]

You're right, he's not all the way back, and it was silly for the team to expect him to be. they should have started him on PUP. However, he won't be cut in a million years. He's one of the few Raiders picks that's worked out so he'll be given every opportunity to stick around even whenever he's ineffective in the future.



My darkhorse release would Oren O'Neil. Being that we already released LoNeal, but he doesn't seem "back" to me and if the Raiders view Reece as a "weapon" at FB, we could easily take him over Oren and keep Gary Russell to back him up.

Disclaimer: If someone else has previously voiced this theory, I'm not trying to steal your thunder, I just haven't read it.

[DarthRaidor]

My 53:

QB (3): Russell, Gradkowski, Frye

RB (3): McFadden, Bush, Rankin

FB (2): O'Neal, Reece

WR (6): Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Schilens, Walker, Higgins, N. Miller

TE (3): Miller, Myers, Stewart

OL (9): Henderson, Green, Pears, Gallery, Boone, Mahan, Morris, Barnes, Martin

DL (8): Ellis, Scott, Warren, Kelly, Bryant, Joseph, Shaughnessy, Richardson

LB (7): Morrison, Howard, Brown, Norris, Alston, Greenwood, Ekejiuba

DB (8): Asomugha, Johnson, Routt, Branch, Eugene, Mitchell, Huff, Anyone but J. Miller

P: Lechler

K: Janikowski

LS: Condo

My 53 with what we have. Man, I hope we pick up some OL and DL. :(

[RaiderRobert]

Just seems awfully self-congratulatory to me.





I like girls, so I tend to look that way, unlike everyone else who only thinks about boys...

WTF ???

[RaiderIVlife]

I did say "darkhorse". Bwahahahahahahahha

I hope that doesn't happen either, but........we always seem to have one head scratcher each offseason.....

[doug7dust]

langlier keep the info coming

[chudezee]

I'll post em here when I get the list.

hearing "good chance" Garcia is cut.


Knock it off...Garcia is not being cut!! He's going to be starting by week 4.:shakehead:

[Raider Bill]

Is it just me or does Jerry Mc seem like less of a dick on twitter?

If that's the case you should look into that twitter thing

[Rupert]

If that's the case you should look into that twitter thing

Thank you. Learn a little about reading and comprehension and I'll seem like less of a dick.

[hawaiianboy]

Knock it off...Garcia is not being cut!! He's going to be starting by week 4.:shakehead:


I don't know, those UFL teams have some pretty good QB's...


Things that wouldn't surprise me:

1) Going heavy at RB (5 RB's and 1 FB) by keeping both Gary Russell and Rankin at RB behind the big three...

2) Going with only two QB's

3) The second QB be Charlie Frye

4) Paul McQuistan, Jovan Walker and Jon Alston cut

5) An immediate bum rush to sign a couple of vet corners

[Postmaster]

4) Paul McQuistan, Jovan Walker and Jon Alston cut

After watching Javon in the 4th quarter the other night I think all the reports claiming that Walker was jumping over bags with grace and making every catch thrown his way on the sideline was overblown.

[CrossBones]

Boy those Raiders they better play it close to the vest announcing their cuts. There will be 31 teams clamoring to sign Nick Miller and Turd. It's like the Raiders think they have something somebody else wants. Don't think so. I think Garcia is toast. No reason whatsoever to keep him. He may have woken up old anyway. Looked like shit against Seattle's 2's. Buh-bye.

[Postmaster]

Boy those Raiders they better play it close to the vest announcing their cuts. There will be 31 teams clamoring to sign Nick Miller and Turd. It's like the Raiders think they have something somebody else wants. Don't think so. I think Garcia is toast. No reason whatsoever to keep him. He may have woken up old anyway. Looked like shit against Seattle's 2's. Buh-bye.

Yo Bones when did you wake up old? 1933? :pound:

[hawaiianboy]

Injuries and roster cuts

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, September 5th, 2009 at 11:14 am in Oakland Raiders.

As the Raiders work on cutting their roster to 53, they must sort out the physical condition of their injured players and determine the best course of action.

If it’s a player who was on the bubble anyway, they might simply be “waived injured” and receive a parting gift of some cash for their troubles.

If it’s someone like wide receiver Chaz Schilens, who won’t be ready for the opener but is being counted on not long after, it’s not an issue at all.

Anyone placed on injured reserve is done for the season. The Raiders have no players eligible for reserve/PUP, which is only for those who came into training camp injured and never came off training camp PUP.

The following were injured Raiders players as they played their last game against Seattle:

– Schilens. Nothing to discuss here.

– RB Louis Rankin. Cable said after the game he didn’t finish because of an ankle injury. Reporters saw him with his knee being iced. If the injury is serious enough, he stays a Raider by being placed on I.R. but can’t play this year, nor can he attend meetings or practice with the team. If healthy enough, Rankin can be cut and brought back to the practice squad, but would be available to teams wanting to claim him for the 53-man roster.

– RB Justin Fargas, hamstring. Couldn’t have faced Seattle had it been a regular season game, but coach Tom Cable says the opener is not an issue. If there was any thought of trading Fargas, however, the hamstring complicates things. How much would you give up for a running back with a history of collisions and a bad hamstring?

– S Michael Huff, quad. Don’t know if it’s a bruise or a strain because it’s never been specified. But Huff has missed time of late and would seem to be out of the running to challenge Hiram Eugene at free safety. Could be the Raiders are still a year away from giving up on Huff, because frankly, there doesn’t appear to be anyone on the roster seizing the moment to push him off.

– S Mike Mitchell, hamstring. Supposedly will be on the field this week. Had things come along very slowly, or if he had a serious setback, an Arman Shields situation could have developed. The Raiders didn’t think Shields was that badly injured last year, but put him on I.R. anyway. As it turned out, Shields was never ready.

– T Khalif Barnes, broken ankle. Should be back by Week 2 or 3. The Raiders have no viable replacement until then if Mario Henderson goes down.

– C John Wade stinger. Hasn’t practiced exactly once since the Dallas game, then was out again the next day. Don’t be surprised if the Raiders are watching the cut list for centers.

– LB Kirk Morrison, elbow. Insists he’ll be ready for the opener, which is exactly what you’d expect him to do. Cable seems to think he’ll be ready as well. Doesn’t appear as if a trade or position switch to strong side linebacker is in the works.

– LB Isaiah Ekejiuba, shoulder. Has had shoulder issues before, so Raiders simply shut him down for the preseason. After being made the highest paid pure special teams player in the league during the offseason, his job is secure.

– S Rashad Baker, stinger. Baker is a player Cable likes because he performed well toward the end of the season and particularly in the last two wins, games that earned the coach his job. Davis isn’t quite as enamored, as evidenced by the fact the Raiders made no attempt to sign Baker when he became a free agent. He’s already had a concussion and a stinger since being cut by Philadelphia.

[Sleet]

Boy those Raiders they better play it close to the vest announcing their cuts. There will be 31 teams clamoring to sign Nick Miller and Turd. It's like the Raiders think they have something somebody else wants. Don't think so. I think Garcia is toast. No reason whatsoever to keep him. He may have woken up old anyway. Looked like shit against Seattle's 2's. Buh-bye.

JR's going to wake up old on September 15th behind that OL. :shakehead:

[CrossBones]

Yo Bones when did you wake up old? 1933? :pound:Very funny. :lowblow:

[Raider Bill]

Walker didn't even make the team? Good lord we're fucked.

[Xplosive]

Dont worry we are on the look out.


X

[RaiderRobert]

Walker didn't even make the team? Good lord we're fucked.

What are you talking about?

[DarkDays]

About time
bydavidwhite Raiders cut DTs Terdell Sands and Ryan Boschetti. What a waste of money of Sands.

[Postmaster]

Sands among 22 cuts

The Raiders have until 3 p.m. to finalize their 53-man roster. Names of the 22 players have begun to trickle out.

The Raiders have informed defensive tackles Terdell Sands and Ryan Boschetti they will be released, a league source told The Chronicle.

Sands was due $1.6 million so they save some money, but he already collected on a $1.9 million bonus in the offseason. So ends a bust of a player re-signing. The Raiders gave him a four-year, $17 million contract in 2007 but Sands never lived up to the deal.

Boschetti was signed as a veteran free agent in the offseason. He fell to third-team duty behind undrafted rookie Desmond Bryant, who has made the team, a source said. Boschetti is a Carlmont High grad who played at College of San Mateo.

Bryant has a lot of developing to do out of Harvard but the Raiders love his high ceiling of potential to go with his 6-foot-6, 288-pound size.

More names will come as I get them ...

[DarthRaidor]

Sands among 22 cuts

The Raiders have until 3 p.m. to finalize their 53-man roster. Names of the 22 players have begun to trickle out.

The Raiders have informed defensive tackles Terdell Sands and Ryan Boschetti they will be released, a league source told The Chronicle.

Sands was due $1.6 million so they save some money, but he already collected on a $1.9 million bonus in the offseason. So ends a bust of a player re-signing. The Raiders gave him a four-year, $17 million contract in 2007 but Sands never lived up to the deal.

Boschetti was signed as a veteran free agent in the offseason. He fell to third-team duty behind undrafted rookie Desmond Bryant, who has made the team, a source said. Boschetti is a Carlmont High grad who played at College of San Mateo.

Bryant has a lot of developing to do out of Harvard but the Raiders love his high ceiling of potential to go with his 6-foot-6, 288-pound size.

More names will come as I get them ...

Mark my words, Des bryant will be a starter on our DL before seasons end.

[Crow]

Mark my words, Des bryant will be a starter on our DL before seasons end.

Dude's screaming for a DE/UT swingman job. I figure he sticks as the #3 DT, simply because there's no one on the roster capable of playing NT. Kelly can't do it, and he's being paid too much to bench.

[Postmaster]

Raiders admit mistake, cut Sands
Posted by Evan Silva on September 5, 2009 4:30 PM ET
The Raiders signed 6'7" behemoth defensive tackle Terdell Sands to a four-year, $17 million contract in the 2007 offseason, believing him to be the answer for the club's annual woes on run defense.

He wasn't, and owner Al Davis acknowledged the mistake by releasing Sands on Saturday. Of course, it didn't happen until after Davis paid Sands a $1.9 million offseason roster bonus.

Versatile defensive end/tackle Ryan Boschetti was also cut, while undrafted rookie Desmond Bryant, who played for Jim Harbaugh at Stanford, made the team.

Dez played at Harvard and Stanford? Start calling him Einstein.

[doug7dust]

bout time sands...see ya

[Langlier]

can't get through to my guy. so i'll be hearing cuts as they trickle out with everyone else.

[Postmaster]

can't get through to my guy. so i'll be hearing cuts as they trickle out with everyone else.

Oh so you have to hang with the little people today huh? :)

[DarthRaidor]

Dez played at Harvard and Stanford? Start calling him Einstein.

That's a mistake. But I gotta say, Des coming from Harvard is impressive to me. :cool::D

[Postmaster]

If we sign Boone, which sounds likely, does William Joseph make the squad?

[massraider]

I am fine with Sands and Boschetti being cut. Interesting to see if that 4th DT is Joseph, Boone, or someone else.

[Langlier]

Oh so you have to hang with the little people today huh? :)

always do :)

just like all little people i suckle at any teet of info I can get :)

[massraider]

Tim Crowder was cut by Denver. Doesn't fit the 3-4, but he might make our rotation.

[Postmaster]

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/jason-la-canfora/

The Oakland Raiders have been calling around to teams, willing to listen to pretty much anything, with several league sources suggesting Jeff Garciacould be acquired. But the free agent interest in the veteran was minimal this offseason, so, again, not a whole lot of takers out there.

[Xplosive]

Raiders office is working hard as hell.


X

[Crow]

Tim Crowder was cut by Denver. Doesn't fit the 3-4, but he might make our rotation.

That's a pretty interesting cut. What was the book on him? High intensity, marginal pass rusher? Seems like he was their best run defending DE before the scheme change.

[Birdwell]

Mark my words, Des bryant will be a starter on our DL before seasons end.

Mark 'em? Hell I already said 'em. (But not here, so you get that bror. :D

Likely keep 5 DTs if we sign Boone or any other single DT. Won't go a season where all four DTs will be healthy, or all 4 DEs. Thing is, Kelly and Bryant can play DE, so that covers the outside with the inside.

Fascinating that on Lang's 1.5 week old list, Cornell Green was actually on it, and that Cooper Carlisle wasn't.

It'll be fascinating to watch, then, because Green hasn't done anything but play himself out of his roster spot since whenever it was that list of names was heard. In another post thread I suggested we keep 2 TEs on the right side of the line to make upfor the fact that Green can't block anyone in the pass rush, and Carlisle can't hendle power rushers worth a damn.

[Xplosive]

speaking of cuts, in a final desperate suggestion, Im thinking the Raiders should Package up Garcia, Fargas and Javon walker and a 2010 3rd round pick or 2nd round pick to the Browns for shaun Rogers.

Rogers can help Des Bryant push Tommy kelly- I wanna play coverage ass out the door.

injurys on this team scream for Defensive help by any means.

X

[london raider 2]

Raiders office is working hard as hell.


X

What - to make up for all their cock ups in draft/FA ?

Dangelo Hall & Quentin Moses say hi

[DarthRaidor]

What - to make up for all their cock ups in draft/FA ?

Dangelo Hall & Quentin Moses say hi

Don't forget Stryker Sulak.

[CrossBones]

What's a "cock up"? :bugeye:


:D

[DarthRaidor]

What's a "cock up"? :bugeye:


:D

It's that thing right next to the "dog's bollocks".

[Xplosive]

DeAngelo is a shoe string tackle away from being a free agent, stryker doesnt have a job, and Moses can bearly part the sea in miami.


X

[Sleet]

Mark 'em? Hell I already said 'em. (But not here, so you get that bror. :D

Likely keep 5 DTs if we sign Boone or any other single DT. Won't go a season where all four DTs will be healthy, or all 4 DEs. Thing is, Kelly and Bryant can play DE, so that covers the outside with the inside.

Don't know how the kid will play v. #1s, but I would sure like to see him at base end on running downs. I just don't understand this fascination with Scott as a base end. It seems to have detracted from his pass rushing ability. Lining up on the LT just doesn't make any sense for him.

I don't think the Raiders keep 5 DT becuase playing either Kelly or Bryant at DE makes too much sense, and the Raiders haven't been making much sense in a while.

[london raider 2]

It's that thing right next to the "dog's bollocks".

Keep forgetting u lot dont speak English :D

Dogs bollocks = the nuts ( need any further explanation?)

Cock up = fuck up

Could be worse - i could use Cockney rhyming slang :eek:

[london raider 2]

DeAngelo is a shoe string tackle away from being a free agent, stryker doesnt have a job, and Moses can bearly part the sea in miami.


X

And our front office signed them all !

In Al we trust

[DarkDays]

Keep forgetting u lot dont speak English :D

Dogs bollocks = the nuts ( need any further explanation?)

Cock up = fuck up

Could be worse - i could use Cockney rhyming slang :eek:

God save the Queen and her cocked up bollocks.

I kid I kid.

[DarthRaidor]

Keep forgetting u lot dont speak English :D

Dogs bollocks = the nuts ( need any further explanation?)

Cock up = fuck up

Could be worse - i could use Cockney rhyming slang :eek:

:pound::pound: It's all in good fun bro. I actually love the hell outta the Brits.

[Crow]

I just wanna know why the queen has any authority in Canada. No one's really explained that one to me.

[hawaiianboy]

Keep forgetting u lot dont speak English :D


Sadly, I understand yours and Limee's cockamamie fadged version of English better than I do xplosive's posts...

[Postmaster]

Sadly, I understand yours and Limee's cockamamie fadged version of English better than I do xplosive's posts...

:pound:

[CrossBones]

Sadly, I understand yours and Limee's cockamamie fadged version of English better than I do xplosive's posts...:bugeye:

[DarkDays]

Somebody already post this?
(The Kansas City Chiefs cut former Arthur Hill standout Alphonso Boone, but the defensive tackle has drawn interest from several teams, most notably the Oakland Raiders.

nationalfootballpost.com: Alfonso Boone is on his way to Oakland and barring a surprise the Raiders are expected to offer the veteran defensive tackle a contract.
Boone was released by Kansas City on Tuesday, and has also drawn interest from Carolina and his former team Chicago, according to a league source. The Raiders, however, are the favorite to sign the nine-year pro.)

[YodasBeast]

Keep forgetting u lot dont speak English :D

Dogs bollocks = the nuts ( need any further explanation?)

Cock up = fuck up

Could be worse - i could use Cockney rhyming slang :eek:

Why don't you just toss some Parkie in there while you're at it, ya fooking wanker?

Ye leck dags?

[DarthRaidor]

Why don't you just toss some Parkie in there while you're at it, ya fooking wanker?

Ye leck dags?

It's not Irish, it's not English, it's just........ Pikey. :pound:.

[Postmaster]

Draft Picks:

Do you guys see any draft picks getting cut? I know Sulak is gone but if the rest make the squad that ain't too bad.

[YodasBeast]

It's not Irish, it's not English, it's just........ Pikey. :pound:.

Coulda sworn it was "Parkie", not "Pikey", due to the fact that they live in trailer parks.

[Throne Raider]

I just wanna know why the queen has any authority in Canada. No one's really explained that one to me.

They don't, at least not since Freddy Mercury went tits up.

[DarthRaidor]

Coulda sworn it was "Parkie", not "Pikey", due to the fact that they live in trailer parks.

Nope it's Pikey.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey

[Raider Bill]

I'll seem like less of a dick.

Impossible.

[RaiderNorth]

I just wanna know why the queen has any authority in Canada. No one's really explained that one to me.

Canadians were too lazy to have a revolution (probably stoned). So they just never bothered to get rid of the queen.

[Langlier]

Jerruh sez announcement at 4pm.

[Postmaster]

Raiders cut Jeff Garcia
The plan was for quarterback Jeff Garcia to push starter JaMarcus Russell, the first pick in the 2007 draft, to get better.

Plan B was for Garcia to win the job.

Plan C, as it turns out, was for Garcia to not make the team.

Per a league source, Garcia has been cut.

[london raider 2]

Why don't you just toss some Parkie in there while you're at it, ya fooking wanker?

Ye leck dags?

It is pikey not parkie Yodas - what does ye leck dags mean ? :confused:

How does a raiders cuts thread evolve into this - bizarre but funny

[RaiderNorth]

I thought there was a 3 p.m. deadline. I guess the old man don't care about deadlines at this point.

[MexRaider]

Garcia is gone

[Crow]

Canadians were too lazy to have a revolution (probably stoned). So they just never bothered to get rid of the queen.

I laughed straight through a "What the fuck?" when she suspended the Canadian Parliament when they were about to have a no-confidence vote against the Prime Minister. He ran crying to the queen for help. I had no idea the "royal family" had any relevance left in England, much less the rest of the world. How incredibly comical.

[Crow]

Garcia is gone

Oops.

[Postmaster]

Chudezee are you going to be ok now that WonderBoy got cut? Need any tissues?

[Langlier]

I thought there was a 3 p.m. deadline. I guess the old man don't care about deadlines at this point.

cuts have been made just not announced.

[RaiderNorth]

Chudezee are you going to be ok now that WonderBoy got cut? Need any tissues?

I can't wait for this one

[Xplosive]

last minute roster moves and updates will be issued out here in a brief.

smile'n

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[Freakshow]

Garcia is gone

So much for all those threads about whether or not Garcia would beat out Russell...lol. The Garcia supporters were waaaay off base with that call...:nono:

[brick]

Who wanted Bear Pasco? he didn't make the niners

[CrossBones]

You could have gotten the Garica cut from Bones' Premium last week. buncha cheap bastards...for only the new price of $59.99/yr you could have had this information hours ago. :D

[london raider 2]

[QUOTE=Crow;116431. I had no idea the "royal family" had any relevance left in England, much less the rest of the world. How incredibly comical.[/QUOTE]

They dont - its just to keep the American tourists happy :D

By the way did u know the royals are German?

Back on topic which of Als faves sticks - Sam the pushup man or John Bowie

[Freakshow]

"Biger" names we might have seen the last of...just my hunch

Johnny Lee Higgins
Justin Fargas
Michael Huff

We shall see, but none of these names on the cut list would suprise me.

[Postmaster]

"Biger" names we might have seen the last of...just my hunch

Johnny Lee Higgins
Justin Fargas
Michael Huff

We shall see, but none of these names on the cut list would suprise me.

Johnnie Lee was one of our most improved players by the end of the year. I don't think he gets cut.

Lead the team in TD's.

[fatdog]

Can they put Fargas on IR?

[DarkDays]

"Biger" names we might have seen the last of...just my hunch

Johnny Lee Higgins
Justin Fargas
Michael Huff

We shall see, but none of these names on the cut list would suprise me.

Yea and Al just regained consciousness.:rolleyes:

[Crow]

By the way did u know the royals are German?

Srsly? :confused: I didn't figure that was allowed.

Back on topic which of Als faves sticks - Sam the pushup man or John Bowie

I'm guessing both, sadly enough.

[Postmaster]

Can they put Fargas on IR?

That would make no sense.

[Sleet]

Raiders cut Jeff Garcia
The plan was for quarterback Jeff Garcia to push starter JaMarcus Russell, the first pick in the 2007 draft, to get better.

Plan B was for Garcia to win the job.

Plan C, as it turns out, was for Garcia to not make the team.

Per a league source, Garcia has been cut.

This is an ADMISSION by Al and Cable that we are not close to making a playoff push this year. If we were close, Al and Cable would have kept Garcia. But becuase we are not close, why pay him the $$$ when we can develop two younger QBs.

That is what Florio is missing.

[YodasBeast]

Nope it's Pikey.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pikey

Turnpike...got it

[RaiderNorth]

cuts have been made just not announced.

Only the Raiders could turn roster cuts into a production. Please tell me Al isn't going to need the aid of an overhead projector.

[Birdwell]

This is an ADMISSION by Al and Cable that we are not close to making a playoff push this year. If we were close, Al and Cable would have kept Garcia. But becuase we are not close, why pay him the $$$ when we can develop two younger QBs.

That is what Florio is missing.

Not sure about that. Exactly what have we seen Garcia do that Gradkowski and Frye have not done? If practices were like the games, Garcia short-hops a 3rd of his intermediate throws, throws another 5th high on the run or trying to get it over the arms of the D-line, dances like a bear on an electric griddle in the pocket, and throws a mini-tantraum on every incomplete pass.

Yes, he has completed passes, moved the O, and gotten the O to score. So have Gradkowski and Frye, doing with lesser players than Garcia has done it with (against lesser players, as well,yes). Gradkowski and Frye have turned the ball over, and so has Garcia.

I can't recall any marginal team like the Raiders making the playoffs with their backup QB, no matter who it is. The Eagles with Westbrook and the phenomenal D, yes. The Patsies, well, no. The only times that happens with teams like the Raiders are now is when the backup is a younger who shows when he gets in that he's ready to be the starter for good.

Garcia can rest happily now, wait by his phone and hope someone who cares calls. But the Raiders just told him, to quote a Jimmy Buffet lyric and song title, "If the phone doesn't ring, it's me."

[Postmaster]

MoveTheSticksIf Jeff Garcia kept quiet and sounded content to backup, he would still be in Oakland

[Birdwell]

Only the Raiders could turn roster cuts into a production. Please tell me Al isn't going to need the aid of an overhead projector.

I'm supposing that part of this is that they have one or more guys (Boone?) who are going to be on the roster, and wanna make it all done at once.

[Postmaster]

I'm supposing that part of this is that they have one or more guys (Boone?) who are going to be on the roster, and wanna make it all done at once.

Its already done. They just have to announce it. Deadline was 3pm PST.

[DarkDays]

Not sure about that. Exactly what have we seen Garcia do that Gradkowski and Frye have not done? If practices were like the games, Garcia short-hops a 3rd of his intermediate throws, throws another 5th high on the run or trying to get it over the arms of the D-line, dances like a bear on an electric griddle in the pocket, and throws a mini-tantraum on every incomplete pass.



:pound: You had me sold on Not sure about that. But than this: and throws a mini-tantraum on every incomplete pass. :pound:

[Throne Raider]

NFLN says big news on Garcia coming up right now. My bet----Gone. Will see.

[Postmaster]

NFLN says big news on Garcia coming up right now. My bet----Gone. Will see.

Really! That's huge!

[DarkDays]

NFLN says big news on Garcia coming up right now. My bet----Gone. Will see.

A trade?

[RaiderRobert]

A trade?

CUT...

[Postmaster]

Didn't we determine Garcia was cut over an hour ago?

[CrossBones]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4449160

ESPN reporting t he jackass has been cut.

[Sleet]

Not sure about that. Exactly what have we seen Garcia do that Gradkowski and Frye have not done? If practices were like the games, Garcia short-hops a 3rd of his intermediate throws, throws another 5th high on the run or trying to get it over the arms of the D-line, dances like a bear on an electric griddle in the pocket, and throws a mini-tantraum on every incomplete pass.

Yes, he has completed passes, moved the O, and gotten the O to score. So have Gradkowski and Frye, doing with lesser players than Garcia has done it with (against lesser players, as well,yes). Gradkowski and Frye have turned the ball over, and so has Garcia.

I can't recall any marginal team like the Raiders making the playoffs with their backup QB, no matter who it is. The Eagles with Westbrook and the phenomenal D, yes. The Patsies, well, no. The only times that happens with teams like the Raiders are now is when the backup is a younger who shows when he gets in that he's ready to be the starter for good.

Garcia can rest happily now, wait by his phone and hope someone who cares calls. But the Raiders just told him, to quote a Jimmy Buffet lyric and song title, "If the phone doesn't ring, it's me."

Bird, I think we are saying the same thing from two different directions. If we were The Eagles with Westbrook and a phenomenal D (i.e., a playoff team), then we would have kept Garcia? Why? We would not risk not making the playoffs by having a back-up that hasn't won anything.

Garia has a 90+ career QB rating. When he was signed, the two main messages were (a) he was brought here to push JR and (b) the Raiders were going to be competitive, and wanted a back-up QB to protect their season if JR sucked or got hurt.

Well, Garcia didn't push JR b/c he got hurt. JR played well, so it looks like we have as good of a QB as we are going to get. And, three, our season doesn't need protection. We are still in rebuilding mode.

So, because Grad and Frye played as well as Garcia, we don't need him. Let him go elsewhere.

[CrossBones]

The POS Raiders website is just that as usual.

Such drama for a team who is cutting players nobody cares abut (except us the mighty fan.)

I hate this team. :D

[Crow]

I heard Garcia might get cut. Anyone have a link?

[Birdwell]

Its already done. They just have to announce it. Deadline was 3pm PST.

No, they announced their cuts to the league office by the deadline. If they sign someone, that they don't have to tell anyone until they decide to, or the player and/or agent leak it. Remember Chris Johnson?

[Sleet]

Its already done. They just have to announce it. Deadline was 3pm PST.

What Bird said.

The 53-man roster was turned in. But that doesn't stop the Raiders from signing a player and droping a player and announcing it at the same time as they announce the 53, even if it wasn't the same 53 they turned in, does it?

[PDX Raider]

Bernard Pollard (Chiefs) and Crowder are worth a look. if I recall Crowder was decent his first year. Just not cut out for the 3-4.

[Postmaster]

bydavidwhiteTom Cable's conference call just got shoved back to 4:30. Must be agonizing over cuts that were made 75 minutes ago.

[Throne Raider]

According to NFLF, The Garcia release makes sense from money standpoint and takes the pressure off JR. Grab and Frye are capable right now as Jeff seemed to be with his injuries and lack of focus.

[MexRaider]

Crow, I saw he was cut on Pro Football Talk (PFT) awhile ago, and posted it on page 13 or 14 when I saw it.

[CrossBones]

Has Jeff Garcia been CUT? :D

$59.99/yr ladies and you wouldn't be agonizing about this shit.

Bones knows.

[Postmaster]

bydavidwhiteIn seriousness, my guess is the staff is trying to make waiver claims on players they want on their 53-man roster.

[Postmaster]

Has Jeff Garcia been CUT? :D

$59.99/yr ladies and you wouldn't be agonizing about this shit.

Bones knows.

:pound:

Where do I send the check?

[RaiderRobert]

The scroll bar at the bottom of the screen on NFLN came to the Raiders, and then sat there, then skipped over us... How does THAT happen? Who's making that happen?

[Postmaster]

What Bird said.

The 53-man roster was turned in. But that doesn't stop the Raiders from signing a player and droping a player and announcing it at the same time as they announce the 53, even if it wasn't the same 53 they turned in, does it?

bydavidwhiteIn other words, expect a player or two who made the 53-man roster at 3 p.m. to be off it soon enough. Happened to William Joseph last year.

[Crow]

The scroll bar at the bottom of the screen on NFLN came to the Raiders, and then sat there, then skipped over us... How does THAT happen? Who's making that happen?

Al threatened a lawsuit for trying to steal his thunder.

[Crow]

So, in other news, I hear Jeff Garcia might be getting cut. I thought he was supposed to start this season. Crazy, huh?

[Postmaster]

So, in other news, I hear Jeff Garcia might be getting cut. I thought he was supposed to start this season. Crazy, huh?

Did you get that earth shattering news from Xplosive? How does he do it?

[Crow]

Did you get that earth shattering news from Xplosive? How does he do it?

I'm convinced he's Mark Davis. Dude is totally "in".

[Birdwell]

Did you get that earth shattering news from Xplosive? How does he do it?

Ah, no, that would be the genius known as Chudezee. At least he was leading the charge.

[Postmaster]

Ah, no, that would be the genius known as Chudezee. At least he was leading the charge.

I think Chudezee needs a hug after today.

[Postmaster]

Jesus H Christ....they better be working out the final details for the Juluis Peppers trade.

[Postmaster]

Slade got got cut.

[Crow]

S Jerome Boyd
WR Johnnie Holland
LB David Nixon
LB Slade Norris
LB Chris O’Neal
FB Marcel Reece
RB Gary Russell
LB Morlon Greenwood
CB Justin Miller
QB Jeff Garcia
S Rashad Baker (waived injured)
DB Michael Hawkins (waived injured)
C John Wade (waived injured)
DT Ryan Boschetti
DT Terdell Sands
CB Darrick Brown
OT Seth Wand
G Mark Wilson
T James Marten
TE Darrell Strong
DE Greyson Gunheim

Hmm...

[raiderdog]

Raiders roster cuts

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, September 5th, 2009 at 4:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders cuts announced Saturday to get the the 53-man minimum:

S Jerome Boyd
WR Johnnie Holland
LB David Nixon
LB Slade Norris
LB Chris O’Neal
FB Marcel Reece
RB Gary Russell
LB Morlon Greenwood
CB Justin Miller
QB Jeff Garcia
S Rashad Baker (waived injured)
DB Michael Hawkins (waived injured)
C John Wade (waived injured)
DT Ryan Boschetti
DT Terdell Sands
CB Darrick Brown
OT Seth Wand
G Mark Wilson
T James Marten
TE Darrell Strong
DE Greyson Gunheim

[Postmaster]

bydavidwhiteRB Gary Russell loses out to Louis Rankin, Jonathan Holland loses out to Todd Watkins as 6th WR. KR Justin Miller cut, Nick Miller makes it.

[RaiderRobert]

Hey everyone, Rankin made it...

[Crow]

Todd Watkins makes the 53.

Wow.

[MasterRaider]

Slade Norris and Nixon cut!?!?!?! NOOOOOO!

[RaiderNorth]

Todd Watkins makes the 53.

Wow.

He must be the cut coming for whoever we sign

[Langlier]

Todd Watkins makes the 53.

Wow.

don't expect him to stick. i think he's a placeholder till we get a couple things moved.

hunch

[Postmaster]

Slade Norris and Nixon cut!?!?!?! NOOOOOO!

Slade is the only cut that somewhat concerns me.

[RaiderRobert]

Slade Norris and Nixon cut!?!?!?! NOOOOOO!

Hopefully they clear, so we can PS them both...

[hawaiianboy]

I think Chudezee needs a hug after today.

Meat mad. Meat smash you.

[Crow]

Surprisingly, no "OMG! FML!" cuts...yet. Sure would like to know what logic was applied to keeping Watkins as the 6th WR on a run first team, though.

[MasterRaider]

Yeah I atleast want Slade Norris back...thats the ONLY guy we cut that I really would of liked us to keep...the rest I dont mind actually...

[Raider Nation]

Hopefully we can get Boyd and Norris on the Practice Squad.

[Postmaster]

Boyd, Norris, and Nixon to the practice squad please.

[MasterRaider]

I mean I know Watkins is gone as soon as Schilens is healthy if not sooner...

[raiderdog]

Raiders roster cuts

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, September 5th, 2009 at 4:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders cuts announced Saturday to get the the 53-man minimum:

S Jerome Boyd
WR Johnnie Holland
LB David Nixon
LB Slade Norris
LB Chris O’Neal
FB Marcel Reece
RB Gary Russell
LB Morlon Greenwood
CB Justin Miller
QB Jeff Garcia
S Rashad Baker (waived injured)
DB Michael Hawkins (waived injured)
C John Wade (waived injured)
DT Ryan Boschetti
DT Terdell Sands
CB Darrick Brown
OT Seth Wand
G Mark Wilson
T James Marten
TE Darrell Strong
DE Greyson Gunheim

Weren't we supposed to cut 22? The list is only 21. Roster exemption for an injured reserve?

[MasterRaider]

Boyd, Norris, and Nixon to the practice squad please.

I couldnt of said it any better

[Crow]

don't expect him to stick. i think he's a placeholder till we get a couple things moved.

hunch

Seemed like he'd be an early snip, though. Oh well.

Waiting for these moves they're trying to make. Needing to be impressed.

[Crow]

Sam Williams' scholarship: Still in place

[Postmaster]

JerrymcdCable: John Bowie stepped his game up, tackled well. Played himself on to the football team.

Bull$hit.

[hawaiianboy]

Kinda surprised Gary Russell didn't make it

[DarthRaidor]

Hey everyone, Rankin made it...

I'm happy about that. :D

[MasterRaider]

Jerrymcd

Bull$hit.

Your exactly right....that bitch sucks...straight up...I dont care what anybody has to say...he was down right terrible

[Postmaster]

bydavidwhiteLast piece of news: fourth-year center Chris Morris named starter ahead of Samson Satele. Wow.

[Raider Outlaw]

Only surprises for me are Norris and Gary Russell.

The must have a trade in the works for one of the backs on the roster although I doubt if it's Fargas because he has no value.

[MexRaider]

Hell yes, a bunch of dudes

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/05/raiders-roster-cuts/

[Crow]

Gah. Bowie. Jesus fuck me christ.

[DarkDays]

bydavidwhite Last piece of news: fourth-year center Chris Morris named starter ahead of Samson Satele. Wow.2 minutes ago from web

How is that WOW

[MexRaider]

Shit.....Sam Williams....Jesus fuck me christ!

[Raider Outlaw]

they'll be looking to replace Satele with someone else's cut. Maybe Melvin Fowler will visit.

Also, Waide can come back as soon as he heals up just like Robert Thomas did last year during the season once he knee healed up. Satele's days are still numbered.


bydavidwhite

[Crow]

bydavidwhite

How is that WOW

Wow: Satele is now officially a swing-and-a-miss.

[MasterRaider]

When do they announce PS players and when they start signing new players?

[Raider Outlaw]

Actually, I've never seen him play before this season but he was the 4th best CB on the roster. that's not saying much. Since he's the Randy Moss trade pick, he wasn't going anywheree under the circumstances. They'll continue developing and hope to get something out of him.


Jerrymcd

Bull$hit.

[Crow]

Shit.....Sam Williams....Jesus fuck me christ!

:D inorite?

[DarthRaidor]

Raiders roster cuts

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, September 5th, 2009 at 4:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders cuts announced Saturday to get the the 53-man minimum:

S Jerome Boyd
WR Johnnie Holland
LB David Nixon
LB Slade Norris
LB Chris O’Neal
FB Marcel Reece
RB Gary Russell
LB Morlon Greenwood
CB Justin Miller
QB Jeff Garcia
S Rashad Baker (waived injured)
DB Michael Hawkins (waived injured)
C John Wade (waived injured)
DT Ryan Boschetti
DT Terdell Sands
CB Darrick Brown
OT Seth Wand
G Mark Wilson
T James Marten
TE Darrell Strong
DE Greyson Gunheim

Damn, the Turk was not fuckin round today.

[Langlier]

Sam Williams' scholarship: Still in place

actually he had 2 very good preseason games in a row... i understand keeping him

[Raider Outlaw]

I'm thinking Norris will end on the ps because of the leg injury. I can't believe they don't want him.


When do they announce PS players and when they start signing new players?

[Langlier]

Gah. Bowie. Jesus fuck me christ.

he was better then miller - not saying much. but we need an upgrade here.

[Birdwell]

Kinda surprised Gary Russell didn't make it

You and me both, HB. Implications of what has been said about cuts and who is on are interesting for the whole roster. Rankin is a HB, so are McFadden and Fargas, and Bush doesn't wanna play FB. That either leaves recovering from a gruesome kneee injury Oren O'Neal as the only FB on the roster (with Marcel Reece, presumably on the PS), or we're keeping 7 total RBs.

With Miller at WR, that suggests we're keeping six, as news of one of of the expected five being cut would have come out fast. Bowie at CB -- that gonna be four after CJ, Nnamdi and Routt, or five with...?

"Final" roster is gonna be real fascinating reading.

[RaiderRobert]

bydavidwhite

How is that WOW

WTF? Did he even play at all this preseason? I never saw him... We have GOT to be looking at a trade somehow for a REAL starter...

[Raider Outlaw]

he's played well this pre-season and is a core special teamer.


Shit.....Sam Williams....Jesus fuck me christ!

[Postmaster]

You and me both, HB. Implications of what has been said about cuts and who is on are interesting for the whole roster. Rankin is a HB, so are McFadden and Fargas, and Bush doesn't wanna play FB. That either leaves recovering from a gruesome kneee injury Oren O'Neal as the only FB on the roster (with Marcel Reece, presumably on the PS), or we're keeping 7 total RBs.

With Miller at WR, that suggests we're keeping six, as news of one of of the expected five being cut would have come out fast. Bowie at CB -- that gonna be four after CJ, Nnamdi and Routt, or five with...?

"Final" roster is gonna be real fascinating reading.

Luke Lawton made it as well.

[RaiderRobert]

Luke Lawton made it as well.

Beat me to that... I think Lawton is going to keep getting better, I like him...

[MexRaider]

Would've like to have kept our two young LB's Norris and Nixon. Now i'm crossing my fingers for them to get placed on PS

[DarkDays]

Luke Lawton made it as well.

I'm surprised we cut Baker he was doing well last year and word out of camp he was ballhawking.

[massraider]

Nothing really earth-shaking.

Two UDFA's make it, Miller and Bryant.

Beyond that, I am hoping we take a look and grab another lineman or two.

[Postmaster]

I'm surprised we cut Baker he was doing well last year and word out of camp he was ballhawking.

Injured.

[Langlier]

Weren't we supposed to cut 22? The list is only 21. Roster exemption for an injured reserve?

Ricky Schmitt is the missing name

[raiderdog]

Kinda surprised Gary Russell didn't make it

Two theories in keeping Rankin.

1) Was a Kick Returner in college. Backup plan for Nick Miller.

2) Trade is in the works for one of the RB. Hopefully Fargus but are we dangling Bush for trade bait?

[DarthRaidor]

Why didn't list the Terd? DoH! I'm going blind.

[MexRaider]

"Terd" had already been "flushed" LMAO!

[massraider]

Two theories in keeping Rankin.

1) Was a Kick Returner in college. Backup plan for Nick Miller.

2) Trade is in the works for one of the RB. Hopefully Fargus but are we dangling Bush for trade bait?

Rankin showed some explosion as well.

Russell can play FB, well, we have two already.

[Raider Outlaw]

Waived/injured means he'll be brought back once he heals up. You don't want a vet on the opening day roster unless he's healthy. Otherwise, his entire salary is guaranteed.

I'm surprised we cut Baker he was doing well last year and word out of camp he was ballhawking.

[hawaiianboy]

he was better then miller - not saying much. but we need an upgrade here.

Kinda like saying Joe Paterno is a few days younger than Bones...

[NIPS]

Two theories in keeping Rankin.

1) Was a Kick Returner in college. Backup plan for Nick Miller.

2) Trade is in the works for one of the RB. Hopefully Fargus but are we dangling Bush for trade bait?

Nick Miller showed flashes of a solid return guy

Me bets he's returning kickoffs

[raiderdog]

Nick Miller showed flashes of a solid return guy

Me bets he's returning kickoffs

Just saying it gives us some depth at that position.

[Raider Outlaw]

If they think they can develop, they'll get offered. No way those 2 were going to be on the 53 though. O'Neal is under the impression that's his destiny and I'd expect Norris to end there because of the leg injury. That's a lot of LB's on the ps.


Would've like to have kept our two young LB's Norris and Nixon. Now i'm crossing my fingers for them to get placed on PS

[massraider]

If we make any more moves, Rankin, Bowie and Watkins might be the first to go.

[Raider Outlaw]

I think they're dangling Bush. If Al can get what he wants, I think Bush is the odd man out. they're not keeping 6 RBs.


Luke Lawton made it as well.

[NIPS]

Just saying it gives us some depth at that position.

Gotcha

Most likely see Nick returning punts and Rankin and Nick back on kickoff returns

[Postmaster]

If we make any more moves, Rankin, Bowie and Watkins might be the first to go.

Bowie ain't going anywhere unless we sign another CB. He is our 4th corner right now. And that is scary.

[massraider]

Bowie ain't going anywhere unless we sign another CB. He is our 4th corner right now. And that is scary.

Right. But are we prohibited from going after a CB?

[RaiderNorth]

Gotcha

Most likely see Nick returning punts and Rankin and Nick back on kickoff returns

JLH will handle punts, but Miller will do kickoffs and back up on punts.

[Postmaster]

I think they're dangling Bush. If Al can get what he wants, I think Bush is the odd man out. they're not keeping 6 RBs.

Is this a hunch or do you know something the rest of us don't know?

[Raider Outlaw]

Nightmarish scenario indeed. If one of the starters goes down, he's the nickel guy right now.


Bowie ain't going anywhere unless we sign another CB. He is our 4th corner right now. And that is scary.

[Postmaster]

Right. But are we prohibited from going after a CB?

Are the Raiders prohibited from going after a CB?

Good one. :D

[Postmaster]

Des Byrant is listed as DL as opposed to DT. Does anyone recall him getting any work at DE either in practice or games?

[NIPS]

I think they're dangling Bush. If Al can get what he wants, I think Bush is the odd man out. they're not keeping 6 RBs.

Thinking that as well

Pretty loaded at RB - not to many melons to go around

It's a shame to be wasting potential trade picks

I say, strike while the irons hot

Get a 2 for Bush to some team like the Saints - down to Thomas and Bush

Bills could certainly use someone to fill in the Lynch punishment of 4 weeks

Bills got Pats, Bucs, Saints and Dolphins in their 1st 4 weeks - if they plan on sticking around after week 5 they better do something

They may pony up a 2

[RaiderRobert]

I think they're dangling Bush. If Al can get what he wants, I think Bush is the odd man out. they're not keeping 6 RBs.

Right... trade away our best pure RB... I don't think so...