Eh - whattya gonna do

[NIPS]

What a fuckin TOOL

Fat, Rich, and cant hit a RB in the flat

Whats with the diamond studded jersey?

Fuckin gang signs? WTF already

As Archie would say: "Ahh jeez, will ya look at dat dare Edith hu-eehh?

http://www.partychaser.com/app/photogallery/BUDAH+9+03-08-09/image/650/107.jpg

http://www.partychaser.com/app/photogallery/BUDAH+9+03-08-09/image/650/179.jpg

http://www.partychaser.com/app/photogallery/BUDAH+9+03-08-09/image/650/104.jpg

[Sleet]

Great.

[brick]

Look at that thumb,

how long until he comes out of a game with a broken finger nail????

[jatfly]

WTF!!!! first thing is he has a huge gut!!!! Second is dude I am about wanting to spend a couple bucks on some bling but a diamond encrusted jersey....Thats just stupid and also make him a easy target for some punk thieves!!!!!!

[Postmaster]

The partying I don't mind, the gut that has to put him over 3 bills is worrisome however. He did come to camp last year in great shape and he has about 2 more months to drop weight so I will reserve judgment until then but that Garcia signing is looking pretty damn good right now.

[Random Dude]

Fuck.

The gut looks terrible. I wonder how long it is before Cable shits all over this kid.

If Garcia starts, then the team is in for a world of trouble.

[Raiderstu]

oh man..not good..Fat, and the bling is over the top..he's gonna get shot or stabbed...Garcia will be the starter by game three

[scootertramp]

Holy Crap! And garcia is our back up QB? I've defended this guy but he's playin' right into the stereotype aand it's beginning to get to me. The Raiders are screwed if Garcia plays!

[Postmaster]

Holy Crap! And garcia is our back up QB? I've defended this guy but he's playin' right into the stereotype aand it's beginning to get to me. The Raiders are screwed if Garcia plays!

Garcia is a pro and Jamarcus is an amateur. I will go with the pro.

[Sleet]

Cable and Garcia's comments about JR are coming for into focus. Cable has to find a way to reach the kid. He tried tuff love. Now Garcia is pushing competition. JR has to stop gliding and start working and trying to win his job. I sure hope he hasn't checked out. Al should have put a weight clause in the kid's contract. Geez.

[Raiderstu]

just another reason the NFL has to stop giving unproven Rookies Millions upon millions of Dollar$

[NIPS]

Those 2 bracelets gotta be over a 100 G's

[scootertramp]

Garcia is a pro and Jamarcus is an amateur. I will go with the pro.


You can have that pro. What the hell has Garcia ever done? Really?Got a couple teams to the playoffs, then what? He's old, runs around & throws a terrible ball. Am I the only one that watched that last Raider game? I just hope Jamarcus has some godamn pride & hold him off! If not - The raiders are screwed!

[Postmaster]

Those 2 bracelets gotta be over a 100 G's

That is his money and he can do with it as he pleases, but god dammit drop the chalupa!

[Sleet]

RS: Good point. Exhibit A to the new CBA, Rookie Salary Cap.

ST: Agreed, sort of. The offense is built around a running game, with Miller projected as the #1 target.

JR outplayed Garcia last year. And the offense is built for him: Good TE target, solid outlet options, and speed downfield. If the Raiders have to pass 30 plus times a game, Garcia is the better choice, though. He'll spread the ball around more effectively, moving the chains. However, JR has shown he can manage a game. Now he has to stretch the field and make plays.

And get to work.

[NIPS]

Not to sling dick or anything

But if'n they had listen to me 3 years ago we woulda signed Warner - Drafted Calvin Johnson and this year we coulda took Sanchez

[Postmaster]

Anyone know when those photos were taken?

[brick]

Well if the dates on the Photos are correct, they are from early March. I'm sure all that hard work he put in during the weeks leading up to OTA's has resulted in that gut disapearing.

/sarcasm

[brick]

Anyone know when those photos were taken?

If you look at the link it says March 8th. But who knows.

[Sleet]

Pre-draft parties no doubt.

[scootertramp]

I read somewhere that he was wearing the same crap & looked heavy at a fight in Vegas last week. hope he ain't partyin' with Javon!

[Random Dude]

I read somewhere that he was wearing the same crap & looked heavy at a fight in Vegas last week. hope he ain't partyin' with Javon!

Bad news.

I have believed in the kid for one main reason. The talent is obviously there. It is up to him to make the most of it though.

This sucks.

[BigTron]

He looks fat. Thats bad news.

[hawaiianboy]

And everybody thought THIS GUY DIED (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCEiCtzs_xE)....


I told myself early in the off season I wasn't even going to open any Russell threads... Guess that went out the window...


I'm going to wait to see how he performs on game day before I hang him out to dry... I feel kind of hypocritical to glorify all the guys we had that partied (Stabler) and blinged (Clarence Davis) and then crucify this kid like this, but Jesus, this guy is making it real hard to believe that he is taking any of this seriously... Maybe we should sign Vick and turn this into a real QB competition because Garcia doesn't have the arm to succeed in the offense we're setting up...

JR needs to get his head out of his ass and into the game or his career is going to be real short...

[CrossBones]

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeez. :o

[BigTron]

Many a pro athlete parties and spends crazy money looking good. Those things dont bother me. The fat gut is worrisome.

[RaiderJF]

Just fuckin beautiful...

[Jack's sore libido]

Look at that thumb,

how long until he comes out of a game with a broken finger nail????

The most worrisome thing about that thumb nail, to me, is ... isn't that how people measure cocaine?

[Raider Nation]

The most worrisome thing about that thumb nail, to me, is ... isn't that how people measure cocaine?

That's usually the pinky finger, not the thumb.

[Birdwell]

The sky is falling the sky is falling the sky is falling the sky is falling....

Give me a break.

[Jack's sore libido]

That's usually the pinky finger, not the thumb.

I guess when you need a button, you go to a seamstress, and when you need ...

[007]

That is very dissapointing to say the least.

Like most of you, I'll reserve judgment until the games get played.

Brady Quinn is probably at the gym right now lifting weights and reading the fucking playbook.

[hawaiianboy]

The sky is falling the sky is falling the sky is falling the sky is falling....



No the sky is not falling... but all the reports of him Nuke LaLooshing the ball all over the place, the spare tire and the rapper wanna be persona aren't exactly reasons to be No Worry Joe either...

[Abelardo]

The problem is his bad taste... You could put some cheap jewelry inthere and the result would be exactly the same. Please somebody help this kid!

[Smucky]

The one common thing I see in Jamarcus pictures that come up occasionally: men.

Just making an observation.

[Jack's sore libido]

You're RIGHT!!

He must be GAY!!

[brick]

Well the good news is that according to another Raider site, those aren't gang signs that he is flashing. Crossing your fingers like that simply means that you are tight with whomever you are with. Learn something new all the time.

Now I have something cool to do with my hands whenever my fat gut and I are in a photo with someone... or not.

[hawaiianboy]

So he's a gay, cocaine sniffing fat man with manicured nails and bad taste in jewelry... You would have thought that would have come up in his scouting profile...

[Random Dude]

The sky is falling the sky is falling the sky is falling the sky is falling....

Give me a break.

Bird,

I do appreciate your optimism. However, I have been supporting this kid since the beginning (TNFLF), and I am starting to get a little worried now. Year 3 and the kid is partying. That along with Cables comments have me concerned. Winning will be a cure all, but if he struggles while playing overweight, I'm jumping off the bandwagon.

[hawaiianboy]

Wake-up times for JaMarcus

By Monte Poole
Staff columnist


STROLLING THROUGH the fight-night crowd Saturday sporting a New York Yankees cap and designer backpack, an unlit stogie dangling from his lips, JaMarcus Russell was all swagger and comfort, the picture of the good life.

It's as if the Raiders quarterback doesn't feel the flame licking at his heels.

The blaze is raging in the form of Jeff Garcia, an irrepressible challenger who as a football player is everything Russell is not.

Garcia is a smallish bundle of fast-twitch fibers. Russell is the Big Mellow, deliberate and cool.

Russell is the chosen one, an overall No. 1 draft pick blessed with an absurdly powerful arm. Garcia is the scrappy underdog who wages a daily fight for acceptance.

Garcia conveys palpable intensity. Russell projects complacency.

If the best of each could be combined to create one quarterback, the Raiders would have someone special — and they'd know it.

Instead, they wonder if Russell, 23, is committed to mining every ounce of his prodigious talent, wonder if his lust for greatness matches their desire to see him become great and wonder if Garcia, 39, still has enough game to awaken Russell's inner warrior.

Garcia would like to think he does, which explains the slight alterations in his comments during the May 8-10 minicamp and a May 14 interview with Los Angeles radio station KLAC.

The former 49ers and four-time Pro Bowl quarterback told reporters
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during minicamp that he signed as a free agent with Oakland knowing Russell was the projected starter and that he, Garcia, was here to enhance Russell's development and play when needed. Garcia, whose playing days are nearing an end, grew up in Gilroy, and he also was attracted to the opportunity to bring his family near relatives.

Four days later, having fully processed the minicamp and perhaps sensing Russell is vulnerable to a challenge, Garcia seemed less concerned with incumbent status than the needs and goals of the team.

"I'm not going to say that things can't change, and I understand that the role I have basically assumes going in Oakland knowing that JaMarcus was drafted to be the starting quarterback there," Garcia told host Chris Meyers. "But there has to be some realization at some point as to putting the best players on the field that you are going to give you the best chance to win.

"Now if JaMarcus is that guy, then he definitely deserves to be on the field and should be on the field. But if for some reason with what I bring as a player, from a competitive nature and just the intensity and emotion that I bring to the field and the knowledge of the game that I have — if that gives us a better chance to win football games, then that decision is going to have to be left up to the coach and hopefully he can make the right decision for the team."

These aren't fighting words, hardly enough to incite a real quarterback controversy. This is Garcia assessing, speaking his mind and making sense.

Understand, too, that was not self-promotion. Garcia was urging the Raiders to put primary objectives ahead of politics or non-football agendas. He is asking a franchise known for changing priorities on a whim to put winning ahead of everything else.

"It's about the team; it's not about protecting egos or protecting investment dollars." Garcia emphasized. "It's about what's going to give this team a chance to win football games."

This message can just as easily be directed toward Raiders boss Al Davis as Russell. It's no more a challenge to Russell than it is a request of Davis, whose voice will be heard through coach Tom Cable.

Pressing the Big Mellow, trying to shake him from complacency, is the biggest favor Garcia can do for the Raiders. With Paul Hackett and Ted Tollner aboard to guide the offense, they need truth regarding Russell, and it behooves them to get it soon.

After all, how comfortable can they be with seeing their franchise quarterback kicking it at Oracle Arena in Oakland on Saturday night, checking out Andre Ward in the ring, looking like a man who has won the lottery?

[hawaiianboy]

COHNZONE

Lowell Cohn


This is a blog entry taking issue with my friends Monte Poole and Tim Kawakami, so I hope they don't get sore at me. As you may know we all covered the Ward/Miranda fight Saturday night. Monte and Tim are terrific boxing writers and it was a treat and an honor to work this event with them. We had fun together.



JaMarcus Russell was there, sitting to our right. Tim pointed him out -- I always am antsy before a fight and don't notice what I should notice. Russell wore a baseball cap and a T-shirt. Tim told me he had a stogie in his mouth. I didn't think much about Russell because I was thinking about the upcoming fight.



This morning Monte wrote a column about Russell and Tim referenced it in his blog. Both felt Russell portrayed the wrong image, the wrong attitude. To read Monte's interesting provocative column click here.



I take issue with their point of view. Russell is allowed to go out on a Saturday night. He is allowed to go to a boxing match if he cares to. It is a legal activity. I don't expect him to watch football film 24/7. He is allowed to wear a baseball cap and a T-shirt and keep an unlit stogie in his mouth. He is 23 years old and young men often dress that way and affect various poses.



He wasn't in a strip club like so many professional athletes and he wasn't acting in a disorderly way. He was enjoying himself. I don't see how anything he did Saturday night reflects badly on him as a person or an athlete. If he doesn't play well, sure, blast him. But if he goes out in public to enjoy himself along with 8,000 other good citizens of Oakland, don't read anything into it. Give the guy a break.

[raiderdog]

COHNZONE

Lowell Cohn


This is a blog entry taking issue with my friends Monte Poole and Tim Kawakami, so I hope they don't get sore at me. As you may know we all covered the Ward/Miranda fight Saturday night. Monte and Tim are terrific boxing writers and it was a treat and an honor to work this event with them. We had fun together.



JaMarcus Russell was there, sitting to our right. Tim pointed him out -- I always am antsy before a fight and don't notice what I should notice. Russell wore a baseball cap and a T-shirt. Tim told me he had a stogie in his mouth. I didn't think much about Russell because I was thinking about the upcoming fight.



This morning Monte wrote a column about Russell and Tim referenced it in his blog. Both felt Russell portrayed the wrong image, the wrong attitude. To read Monte's interesting provocative column click here.



I take issue with their point of view. Russell is allowed to go out on a Saturday night. He is allowed to go to a boxing match if he cares to. It is a legal activity. I don't expect him to watch football film 24/7. He is allowed to wear a baseball cap and a T-shirt and keep an unlit stogie in his mouth. He is 23 years old and young men often dress that way and affect various poses.



He wasn't in a strip club like so many professional athletes and he wasn't acting in a disorderly way. He was enjoying himself. I don't see how anything he did Saturday night reflects badly on him as a person or an athlete. If he doesn't play well, sure, blast him. But if he goes out in public to enjoy himself along with 8,000 other good citizens of Oakland, don't read anything into it. Give the guy a break.

I am with Lowell on this one...I can't believe I am siding with Lowell Cohen. This has been one of the most bizzaro off seasons ever. Leave the guy alone and let him play. It's May!

[hawaiianboy]

I am with Lowell on this one...I can't believe I am siding with Lowell Cohen.

The only thing that would have been more surprising than Cohen saying what he did, would be Kawakami saying it...


This was Bones at a fight he attended (Spinks-Ali?), so I guess JRuss's getup was pretty standard...

[Postmaster]

COHNZONE

Lowell Cohn


This is a blog entry taking issue with my friends Monte Poole and Tim Kawakami, so I hope they don't get sore at me. As you may know we all covered the Ward/Miranda fight Saturday night. Monte and Tim are terrific boxing writers and it was a treat and an honor to work this event with them. We had fun together.



JaMarcus Russell was there, sitting to our right. Tim pointed him out -- I always am antsy before a fight and don't notice what I should notice. Russell wore a baseball cap and a T-shirt. Tim told me he had a stogie in his mouth. I didn't think much about Russell because I was thinking about the upcoming fight.



This morning Monte wrote a column about Russell and Tim referenced it in his blog. Both felt Russell portrayed the wrong image, the wrong attitude. To read Monte's interesting provocative column click here.



I take issue with their point of view. Russell is allowed to go out on a Saturday night. He is allowed to go to a boxing match if he cares to. It is a legal activity. I don't expect him to watch football film 24/7. He is allowed to wear a baseball cap and a T-shirt and keep an unlit stogie in his mouth. He is 23 years old and young men often dress that way and affect various poses.



He wasn't in a strip club like so many professional athletes and he wasn't acting in a disorderly way. He was enjoying himself. I don't see how anything he did Saturday night reflects badly on him as a person or an athlete. If he doesn't play well, sure, blast him. But if he goes out in public to enjoy himself along with 8,000 other good citizens of Oakland, don't read anything into it. Give the guy a break.

That article doesn't address his fat ass gut. I don't think the issue is partying. I think the issue is eating.

[Madturk]

This was Bones at a fight he attended (Spinks-Ali?), so I guess JRuss's getup was pretty standard...

Bones looks like Sug Knight pimped up Milton Berle in some of his garb:p

Hey, it's early but Ja Dummy has some pressure on him to perform. Garcia isn't my favorite choice to run this offense but at least he's half way capable as opposed to Walter and Tui.

[Sabers]

I think I'm going to be violently ill.

G.
'09 for COOP and 'CANE

[SoCalRaider]

The one common thing I see in Jamarcus pictures that come up occasionally: men.

Just making an observation.

No kidding bro.... Was just talking about this exact thing with a few other people... Most gold diggers will overlook the fact that he's a shy guy.... and that he's a fat tool.... and that he's a mama's boy.... and that he has the personality of a toilet plunger.... and that he wants to date himself.... all because he has money.... and an ass load of it.... He'd actually be the kind of tool that would be taken to the cleaners on a regular basis by these gold diggers.........

But you're dead on.... considering there's a pic of this bitch every time he's out in public.... you would have thought one would have been with a member of the opposite sex. Though I highly doubt he ever comes out of the closet.... too much of a coward....

[poptart]

A couple comments.


1. Imagine if we'd have seen off-season pics of Snake Stabler back in the day ... sloppy as all fuck.

But yeah, it's a different era.
You can't take 3 or 4 months OFF and just kick it these days -- especially when your employer has banked you 60 million bones.

It's a year round gig, and those who are successful in this day and age are hip to that reality.


2. Everything about Russell is slow motion.

His speech.
His movement.
His decision making.
I can't remember him having yet drawn a defense off-side with a hard stutter count at the line.
Has he ever gone through progressions REAL quick *bang* *bang* bang* and hit the third option looking REAL sharp?

The "excuses" for his sloth-like manner so far are that he is young and he's been set into a clusterfuck of a situation.

Yes, however, I would imagine that he would have shown us SOME glimps of ... quickness ... by now.

Don't see it.

I see a big arm and a guy who says he wants to be great.

I've pointed it out a few times and this will be the last, but the wet turd down his leg at the end of the Miami game last year REALLY left a very bad impression in my mind.

S L O W


I dunno, man, but these pics aren't helpin' me out a whole lot.

[Xplosive]

talk about your over reacting.. I havent seen this much panic since the towers fell. Come on guys, I mean really the guy is going to be working out 2 months straight, Lets be more worried about the win loss column instead of what JaMarcus Russell is doing in his free time. lol I mean There has been pictures of Payton Manning blitz, Eli Drunk, Tom Brady being bunchens pet poodle.

Relax

GO Raiders

X

[TheMadStork]

talk about your over reacting.. I havent seen this much panic since the towers fell. Come on guys, I mean really the guy is going to be working out 2 months straight, Lets be more worried about the win loss column instead of what JaMarcus Russell is doing in his free time. lol I mean There has been pictures of Payton Manning blitz, Eli Drunk, Tom Brady being bunchens pet poodle.

Relax

GO Raiders

X

They have all won Super Bowls. And I haven't seen any of them with their stomach preceding them by 2 feet.

[jatfly]

The only thing that would have been more surprising than Cohen saying what he did, would be Kawakami saying it...


This was Bones at a fight he attended (Spinks-Ali?), so I guess JRuss's getup was pretty standard...

Dude if that is Bones I am a jealous MF'er!!!!:eek:

[Rupert]

They have all won Super Bowls. And I haven't seen any of them with their stomach preceding them by 2 feet.

That's cuz Peyton doesn't hang out in public anymore.

[RaiderJF]

lol I mean There has been pictures of Payton Manning blitz, Eli Drunk, Tom Brady being bunchens pet poodle.


Where do you sign up to be "bunchens pet poodle"???

[DrGonzo]

The most worrisome thing about that thumb nail, to me, is ... isn't that how people measure cocaine?


First pic. Right nostril. camera flash, or white residue? Of course, if he were on the booger sugar, he'd probably be thinner, no?

[gst8]

First pic. Right nostril. camera flash, or white residue? Of course, if he were on the booger sugar, he'd probably be thinner, no?

Actually, the thumb and pointer finger are for blunts... which explains a lot.

[Birdwell]

Incurable optomist, I'm not.

Neither do I believe in a cookie-cutter approach to ANYTHING.

So Russell gained 15 pounds in the offseason. Woo-hoo! (or as a buddy of mine annoying says, bravo foxtrot delta.) How svelte did Trent Dilfer ever look in his life, much less his playing days? What about Culpepper in the miracle years with the Vikes? Ever see the clip of William Perry doing 30 reps of floor-bench-floor without missing his spot, failing the leap or losing his balance once? The again, no one ever accused Andre Ware, David Klingler or Jeff George of being out of shape.

John Matuszak never lifted weights. Snake and Stickum both smoked like chimneys.

Russell has been at the facility more than any player since the end of last season according to published media reports. He missed a few days of voluntary practice to be with his mother during surgery -- family man -- with Cable's knowledge and permission. The village idiot has lived in the flim room since he was a junior at the program young Lance is busy running into the ground -- but no one ever said anything comparable about St. Tom, and he's done okay. How much did ole Horseface work out, with that always soft middle of his visible under his pads?

One year late to camp (his and his agent's fault), then Kiffin buries him behind two guys -- one of whom wasn't in the league the following year and another one looking for a place to go this year. Then year 2 he goes through 3 play callers and plays behind two of the worst OTs in the league, with a WR that includes at least six different starting combinations in his first ten games. These are NOT excuses, they are likely REASONs for what we've seen so far.

What matters is what Russell is able to do, when the team needs him, in games. We'll all feel a lot better if the media reports about his passing in OTAs get better, ditto his passing in camp. We will have a minimal sense of what he can do in exhibition games for the snaps he plays -- minimal because both the O and D will be vanilla. We'll have a decent read how he handles his first game of this season. Expect some sailing throws in that game early, some off-balance stuff, in what will be the biggest game of his career, to that point. If the game is actually competitive come the second half, then we'll see how far he's come.

But let's not forget that Russell learned and improved substantially last season once he had a few games under Cable. Cable has stressed this -- last quarter-plus of the season he's a high 60% passer. D got blown out in the NE game, not Russell's fault. he did what he had to do against the Texans, and won the game against the Bucs, leading the O from 10 down in the fourth quarter.

The NFL season is a marathon, not a sprint. Yes, it's important to start well -- especially in our case when we begin with three division games. But we've seen a lot of teams start hot, like 6-2, and the flame out.

I've seen too much of Russell in games (college and pro) to worry overmuch about media reports now. Like a lot of the rookies, he's getting a lot thrown at him in a very few days in terms of offensive changes. He's not a ten year veteran, so it will take him some time. The more anyone's thinking out there, the worse they do -- the game moves too fast. This seems especially true in Russell's case. Book learning and watching film are one thing, do it against live competition is something else.

By week five, if Russell is a 55% passer and the Raiders are 1-4 or worse, including 1-2 or worse in the division, I'll worry. Right now, life's wayyyyy to short be stressing out over a few damn photos from early match and reports from minicamp and early OTAs.

[chudezee]

I told ya....If I got paid millions to play ball and stay in shape, I'd be looking like Brady Quinn...Dudes a loser. See ya in week 3 Jeff.

[chudezee]

Incurable optomist, I'm not.

But let's not forget that Russell learned and improved substantially last season once he had a few games under Cable. Cable has stressed this -- last quarter-plus of the season he's a high 60% passer. D got blown out in the NE game, not Russell's fault. he did what he had to do against the Texans, and won the game against the Bucs, leading the O from 10 down in the fourth quarter.


My god knock it off already...Jadummy didn't win that game...MICHAEL BUSH AND THE RUNNING GAME DID!!!

[Rupert]

I told ya....If I got paid millions to play ball and stay in shape, I'd be looking like Brady Quinn...Dudes a loser. See ya in week 3 Jeff.

Don't take this personally, cuz it applies to me too, but you didn't do enough to put yourself in position to make millions to play ball. Russell did.

I don't give a shit how you would do it, cuz Russell did it. Bag on him if you like, but Russell is the one who earned the right to be drafted #1 overall. Not a single one of us (or any of the mediot blowholes) did. Fuck what any of us would do.

[DonkeyKilla]

If anyone saw Russell and didn't know who he was would no way shape or form think the guy was a proffessional athlete. This guy is an ass clown. I'll be shocked if he does well this year to be honest.

[RaiderRobert]

Don't take this personally, cuz it applies to me too, but you didn't do enough to put yourself in position to make millions to play ball. Russell did.

I don't give a shit how you would do it, cuz Russell did it. Bag on him if you like, but Russell is the one who earned the right to be drafted #1 overall. Not a single one of us (or any of the mediot blowholes) did. Fuck what any of us would do.

I support Russell. Always have. Loved him at LSU, had him as my #1 pick when we drafted him. But I now have him on a very very short leash. A #1 pick, a starting NFL QB getting his pay, SHOULD be 24/7/365 an athlete, a student of the game, more importantly OUR game. HIS game, his position. Act a fool in 10 years when he retires, he will be 30 something. Still young enough to act like a thug, a playboy, an ignorant. Russell isn't getting it. And the pics I am seeing, he looks the worst I have EVER seen him. His head and his heart is NOT in this game...

[s.dot88]

Well the good news is that according to another Raider site, those aren't gang signs that he is flashing. Crossing your fingers like that simply means that you are tight with whomever you are with. Learn something new all the time.

Now I have something cool to do with my hands whenever my fat gut and I are in a photo with someone... or not.

its not a gang sign, its the little "family" hand gesture that Marshawn Lynch and all of his cousins do

Russel and Lynch have a mutual cousin, Robert Jordan

When Jordan, Lynch and their other cousin Virdell Larkin were at Cal, they used to do it all of the time

but the thumbnail, the gut and the double chin probably means our QB likes to toke up quite a bit. But i think Russell knows that he can gain and drop weught pretty quickly, and thats why he lets himself balloon up like that. Sure thats not what you like to see during the offseason, but ill wait and see how he looks during preseason to start to worry.

[Throne Raider]

Foreshadowing the Resurrection of the Disgraced Michael Vick!

Actually, cherry picking photos is something liberal media types like to do. Don't be fooled by image makers. Wait for camp. Then see what JerryMac has to say, or judge for yourself in exhibition games.

[Birdwell]

My god knock it off already...Jadummy didn't win that game...MICHAEL BUSH AND THE RUNNING GAME DID!!!

We win that game with Noodle-armed McCown, smart guy? No.

[Rupert]

I support Russell. Always have. Loved him at LSU, had him as my #1 pick when we drafted him. But I now have him on a very very short leash. A #1 pick, a starting NFL QB getting his pay, SHOULD be 24/7/365 an athlete, a student of the game, more importantly OUR game. HIS game, his position. Act a fool in 10 years when he retires, he will be 30 something. Still young enough to act like a thug, a playboy, an ignorant. Russell isn't getting it. And the pics I am seeing, he looks the worst I have EVER seen him. His head and his heart is NOT in this game...

Again, that's a value judgement based upon personal experience. It's just not based upon anything substantive. Pictures and comments and a LOT of reading between the lines of things no-one is saying from a first person perspective.

I can't put any weight behind conjecture. It's worthless.

Okay, I'll throw my own experiences out there. I'm no fucking practice player. Whether it's tennis, basketball, baseball, football, soccer, whatever. I drop shit and am generally unfocused. But when the game is on, I'm fucking nails. I don't even look like the same person that was practicing. Not even fucking close.

Could Russell be the same kind of player I am? Sure. But I don't make that leap of logic because I have no evidence of it. So it's just as senseless to project all the negatives onto him from a couple comments (and really, there aren't any substantive comments from his coaches - the people I trust to judge his performance) and some random picture.

[scootertramp]

My god knock it off already...Jadummy didn't win that game...MICHAEL BUSH AND THE RUNNING GAME DID!!!

So the 14 points Jadummy put up with touchdown passes didn't help them win?

[Sleet]

Stabler on JaDummy:

"He has all the tools," Stabler said. "He's big, strong, can move around and has a big arm. But from what I understand, the game doesn't come easy to him.

"It came easy to me. I played in much simpler times. Once I learned the system and the great players around me, it was 'go play,' and things came easy for me. Things don't come easy to JaMarcus."

Ouch.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_12414712

[Rupert]

Stabler on JaDummy:

"He has all the tools," Stabler said. "He's big, strong, can move around and has a big arm. But from what I understand, the game doesn't come easy to him.

"It came easy to me. I played in much simpler times. Once I learned the system and the great players around me, it was 'go play,' and things came easy for me. Things don't come easy to JaMarcus."

Ouch.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_12414712

From whom does he get his "understanding"? When someone says that, it means "from what I've heard". Who'd he hear it from? The media?

[Birdwell]

Stabler on JaDummy:

"He has all the tools," Stabler said. "He's big, strong, can move around and has a big arm. But from what I understand, the game doesn't come easy to him.

"It came easy to me. I played in much simpler times. Once I learned the system and the great players around me, it was 'go play,' and things came easy for me. Things don't come easy to JaMarcus."

Ouch.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_12414712

Fair enough, but it makes me wonder for whom the NFL QB position does come easily.

[Raider Nation]

From whom does he get his "understanding"? When someone says that, it means "from what I've heard". Who'd he hear it from? The media?

Stabler lives in Alabama (same state JaMarcus is from and his family still resides) and did commentary on Crimson Tide games. I'd say his opinion is largely based upon local talk about the kid since his high school days as well as his first-hand knowledge calling the 2 games against 'Bama that Russell started in.

I'm not sure I agree with the assessment, but I can't knock it based upon where Stabler lives and who/what he has access to locally.

[hawaiianboy]

From whom does he get his "understanding"? When someone says that, it means "from what I've heard". Who'd he hear it from? The media?

I imagine he and Willie Brown are still pretty good friends...


Everyone knew when we drafted JR that he was pretty raw especially since he came out as a Jr eligible... I don't think he sees defenses particularly well at this point and the game hasn't "slowed down" all that much for him yet... If it was me, I'd still have him working out of the shotgun a bunch to give him a better look at the field...

One thing to keep in mind here is that Stabler didn't really see the field till his 4th (?) year I believe, though in fairness QB's called their own plays back then... I do agree with Snake that this offense should revolve around Darren McFadden rather than JaMarcus at this point...

[BigTron]

The guy is young and has the weight of the world on his shoulders(and in his belly)... lets just let him continue to learn. He didnt stink it up that bad last season. He had around the same QB rating as Flacco and Ravens fans are not crying about him. Flacco also had reliable coaching/defense and talent around him. If we are installing new offense and he is getting on the same page as new teamates early in the offseason, there is no reason to stress now.

[DonkeyKilla]

Fair enough, but it makes me wonder for whom the NFL QB position does come easily.

It doesn't for anyone, that's why the QB needs to be clear and away the hardest working guy on the team. JR has been hard at work- eating cheeseburgers.

[RaiderRobert]

Fair enough, but it makes me wonder for whom the NFL QB position does come easily.

QB's who put in the time, energy, and commitment to their craft and their team. Before, during, and after the season. Sundays AND Wednesdays. QB's who work hard and study hard no matter whether it is January, March, August, OR October. Those photos were from March, right? Isn't that when his Uncle/Mentor/FatherFigure died? Better not hear 1 word from Cable or Russell about how that loss is affecting him...

[Rupert]

Stabler lives in Alabama (same state JaMarcus is from and his family still resides) and did commentary on Crimson Tide games. I'd say his opinion is largely based upon local talk about the kid since his high school days as well as his first-hand knowledge calling the 2 games against 'Bama that Russell started in.

I'm not sure I agree with the assessment, but I can't knock it based upon where Stabler lives and who/what he has access to locally.

Yeah, but Stabler himself said he hasn't observed him in "that situation" which is learning and practicing. So by his own admission, he has no first-hand knowledge of Russell's work ethic, nor the proper environment to develop an informed opinion (which that statment was made to clarify).

He even said he was watching out of the "corner of his eye." Doesn't sound like he's doing any in-depth analysis, or ever plans to.

[Birdwell]

QB's who put in the time, energy, and commitment to their craft and their team. Before, during, and after the season. Sundays AND Wednesdays. QB's who work hard and study hard no matter whether it is January, March, August, OR October. Those photos were from March, right? Isn't that when his Uncle/Mentor/FatherFigure died? Better not hear 1 word from Cable or Russell about how that loss is affecting him...

RR,

What you describe is exactly what I was talking about -- you call that easy? I don't.

There is a word in the dictionary, "escapism" that explains the relationship between what the photos show and losing someone important. Not the best coping strategy, but fairly common.

[RaiderRobert]

RR,

What you describe is exactly what I was talking about -- you call that easy? I don't.

There is a word in the dictionary, "escapism" that explains the relationship between what the photos show and losing someone important. Not the best coping strategy, but fairly common.

I'm not saying all that is easy. Quite the contrary. It's a LOT of hard work, both physical, and mental. But, put in that hard work, and compared to what Russell is feeling now, Sundays will be MUCH easier. ALMOST easy. Especially with the talent we have now surrounded him with. That's what I meant. And if he put in that work, he could be one of the best QB's ever...

Everybody has different coping mechanisms. I am fully aware of that. I was just saying I hope he doesn't pull the "sorrow" card or the "my head isn't in it right now" card come september. Or July, rather. He needs an excellent July and August to be ready for September. I would rather see him grieving now, get it out, and be ready to go. But that's just me. I know he isn't me...

[Raider Nation]

He even said he was watching out of the "corner of his eye." Doesn't sound like he's doing any in-depth analysis, or ever plans to.

That's just Stabler's way of saying he keeps one eye on the television when tipping back his 17th beer of the day. When you look at it that way, he's probably the most qualified arm-chair QB out of all of us.

[DonkeyKilla]

Russell's gut says all you need to know about his "work ethic"

[Armyr8rfan]

Cable's comments, along with the arrival of Garcia, then his comments, lead me to think Cable AND Al, are a little worried....I don't have a problem with partying, or the bling...but that fuggin' gut, that means I just don't give a fuck. That's undisciplined. Uncommitted. Lazy, and after all of the recent comments about this lack of ethic, to willingly pose like moron and let this get out, speaks of his maturity and even intelligence. I/we, all obviously have our fingers crossed.....but so far it ain't lookin' good in OTA's on top of all this......Good news is, Garcia can win....now.

[Sleet]

I wonder if JR is suffering from doubt/lack the self-confidence. Does he view himself as a "fake." It must be hard to feel worthy of $30 million gauranteed, coming out as a junior, just b/c you're big and can throw far.

It is much easier to be JaDummy.

[Postmaster]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/oak/photos/im:urn:newsml:sports.yahoo,ap:20050301:nfl,photo,2 837d9b45ea142149256af4592716f7b.raiders_football_c aps104:1

Jamarcus from the other day.

[Postmaster]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/388479275_2e3ac7709b.jpg

Come on Jam, you can do it.

[Raidervinny]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/388479275_2e3ac7709b.jpg

Come on Jam, you can do it.


Damn...check out how thin he was back then!

[NIPS]

Imma shoot from the hip cause I'm good like that right?

I can deal with deep accuracy throws last year - overthrown was the problem

Reason?

Pressure and slow WR's

However, I dont want this guy to get all giddy when he starts the 1st game like finger just met clitoris

Only hope I got outta this whole thing is how well he played when Mario was inserted and especially how he played the last 3 games of the year

210 yard avg
70% completion
6-2 TD's to Int's

Thats not bad, in fact its pretty solid - especially considering the opponents

Hendersons got the LT position locked down - I'm gonna hope Barnes takes the RT position and shuts the fuck up

That being said

If this big MF'er throws one more pass to a wide open RB in the flats and hits him in the feet I swear to Gawd I'm gonna beat my drunk 40 year old paper boy thats always hungover and doesnt get outta bed till 10, well after I'm gone to work and have a free paper there

I've been looking for an excuse just to beat his fuckin eyes shut

[SoCalRaider]

If this big MF'er throws one more pass to a wide open RB in the flats and hits him in the feet I swear to Gawd I'm gonna beat my drunk 40 year old paper boy thats always hungover and doesnt get outta bed till 10, well after I'm gone to work and have a free paper there


They still make newspapers? Why? Damn....

http://news.google.com/

[chudezee]

Don't take this personally, cuz it applies to me too, but you didn't do enough to put yourself in position to make millions to play ball. Russell did.

I don't give a shit how you would do it, cuz Russell did it. Bag on him if you like, but Russell is the one who earned the right to be drafted #1 overall. Not a single one of us (or any of the mediot blowholes) did. Fuck what any of us would do.

Um...I wasn't born 6'6" that's what got him there...He didn't earn the right to be #1...should've been Calvin Johnson, just stupid Al saw the big arm and your a "Great Playa" dude hit the Lotto...,but I guess if any of us hit the lotto we would stop working also.:pound:

[DonkeyKilla]

Thats not bad, in fact its pretty solid - especially considering the opponents



which opponent was a good defense? NE that was up by 50? the texans coming off the brutal physical game against the titans (and they are not a great defense by any stretch ranked 22nd) or the Bucs defense that had quit when Monte announced he was leaving?
bucs gave up 41 to SD the week before.

[Postmaster]

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/sports/football/JaMarcus-Cant-Wait-To-See-Vick-Comeback.html

Russell/Garcia Video