2009 BlackReign.net Mock Draft - THE PICKS

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Reply here to make your picks, I'll keep this initial post updated so that you can see who has already been picked, and when you are up next. Additional rounds will be added as we aproach them. If you missed signing up, add your name on the sign up thread and you will be added to the waiting list.

1st Round

1) LIONS (hawaiianboy) - Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia
2) RAMS (BigTron) - Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest
3) CHIEFS (Armyr8rfan) - Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
4) SEAHAWKS (Raiderfan007) - Eugene Monroe, LT, Virginia
5) BROWNS (Birdwell) - Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
6) BENGALS (Byron2112) - Andre Smith, T, Alabama
7) RAIDERS (Madturk) - BJ Raji, DT, Boston College
8) JAGUARS (NIPS) - Jason Smith, LT, Baylor
9) PACKERS (Raider Nation) - Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
10) 49ERS (Jatfly) - Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
11) BILLS (massraider) - Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss
12) BRONCOS (Birdwell) - Brian Cushing, LB, USC
13) REDSKINS (Jack's sore libido) - Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
14) SAINTS (Langlier) - Malcolm Jenkins, DB, Ohio St.
15) TEXANS (s.dot88) - Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
16) CHARGERS (Sleet) - Ray Maualuga, LB, USC
17) JETS (Raiderfan007) - Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas St.
18) BEARS (BigTron) - Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
19) BUCCANEERS (Armyr8rfan) - Chris "Beanie"Wells, RB, OSU
20) LIONS (From Cowboys) (hawaiianboy) Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
21) EAGLES (brick) Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St
22) VIKINGS (Byron2112) - Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
23) PATRIOTS (Madturk) - James Laurinitis, LB, Ohio State
24) FALCONS (NIPS) - Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi
25) DOLPHINS (Raider Nation) - Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia
26) RAVENS (Jatfly) - Percy Harvin, WR, Florida
27) COLTS (massraider) - Alex Mack, C, California
28) EAGLES (From Panthers) (brick) - Eben Britton, LT, Arizona
29) GIANTS (Jack's sore libido) - Sean Smith, DB, Utah
30) TITANS (Langlier) - Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
31) CARDINALS (s.dot88) - Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
32) STEELERS (Sleet) - Jarrod Gilbert, DE, San Diego St.

Round 2

33) LIONS (hawaiianboy) - William Beatty, OT, Connecticut
34) PATRIOTS (Madturk) - Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut
35) RAMS (BigTron) - Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
36) BROWNS (Birdwell) - Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut
37) SEAHAWKS (Raiderfan007) - Clay Mathews, LB, USC
38) BENGALS (Byron2112) - Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
39) JAGUARS (NIPS) - Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan
40) RAIDERS (Madturk) - Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State
41) PACKERS (Raider Nation) - Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
42) BILLS (massraider) - Aaron Maybin, DE/LB, Penn St.
43) 49ERS (Jatfly) - Connor Barwin, DE/OLB, Cincinnati
44) DOLPHINS (Raider Nation) - Ron Brace, DT, Boston College
45) GIANTS (Jack's sore libido) - LeSean McCoy, RB, Pittsburgh
46) TEXANS (s.dot88) - Robert Ayers, DE Tennessee
47) PATRIOTS (Madturk) - Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
48) BRONCOS (Birdwell) - Chris Baker, NT, Hampton
49) BEARS (BigTron) - Max Unger, C, Oregon
50) BROWNS (Birdwell) - Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina
51) COWBOYS (hawaiianboy) - Fili Moala, DT, USC
52) JETS (Raiderfan007) - William Moore, SS, Missourri
53) EAGLES (brick) - Patrick Chung, S, Oregon
54) VIKINGS (Byron2112) - Phil Loadholt, T, Oklahoma
55) FALCONS (NIPS) - Eric Wood, C, Louisville
56) DOLPHINS (Raider Nation) - Ramses Barden, WR, Cal-Poly
57) RAVENS (Jatfly) - Cody Brown, LB, Connecticut
58) PATRIOTS (Madturk) - Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina
59) PANTHERS (brick) - Paul Kruger, DE, Utah
60) GIANTS (Jack's sore libido) - Larry English, LB, Northern Illinois
61) COLTS (massraider) - Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn
62) TITANS (Langlier) - Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State
63) CARDINALS (s.dot88) - DJ Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
64) STEELERS (Sleet) - Jonathan Luigs, C, Arkansas

3rd Round

65) LIONS (hawaiianboy) - Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri
66) RAMS (BigTron) - Troy Kropog, LT, Tulane
67) CHIEFS (Armyr8rfan) - Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconson
68) SEAHAWKS (Raiderfan007) - Jairus Byrd, CB, Oregon
69) COWBOYS (hawaiianboy) - Herman Johnson, OG, LSU
70) BENGALS (Byron2112) - Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama
71) RAIDERS (Madturk) - Chip Vaughn, SS, Wake Forest
72) JAGUARS (NIPS) - Louis Murphy, WR, Florida
73) PACKERS (Raider Nation) - Sherrod Martin, CB, Troy
74) 49ERS (Jatfly) - Victor Harris, CB/S, Virginia Tech
75) BILLS (massraider) - Shawn Nelson, TE, Souther Miss
76) JETS (Raiderfan007) - Juaquin Iglesias, WR Oklahoma
77) TEXANS (s.dot88) - Rashad Johnson, FS, Alabama
78) CHARGERS (Sleet) - David Burton, SS, Nortre Dame
79) BRONCOS (Birdwell) - Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon State
80) REDSKINS (Jack's sore libido) - Lawrence Sidbury Jr., DE, Richmond
81) BUCCANEERS (Armyr8rfan) - Nic Harris, S/OLB, Oklahoma
82) LIONS (hawaiianboy) - Darell Scott, DT, Clemson
83) PACKERS (Raider Nation) - James Davis, RB, Clemson
84) BRONCOS (Birdwell) - Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty
85) EAGLES (brick) - Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa
86) VIKINGS (Byron2112) - Darry Beckwith, LB, LSU
87) DOLPHINS (Raider Nation) - Coye Francies, CB, San Jose St
88) RAVENS (Jatfly) - Fenuki Tupou, OT, Oregon
89) PATRIOTS (Madturk) - Michael Hamlin, SS, Clemson
90) FALCONS (NIPS) - Cameron Morrah, TE, California
91) GIANTS (Jack's sore libido) - Lydon Murtha, OT, Nebraska
92) COLTS (massraider) - Tyrone McKenzie, LB, USF
93) PANTHERS (brick) - Pat White, QB/WR, West Virginia
94) TITANS (Langlier) - Mike Mickens, CB, Cincinnati
95) CARDINALS (s.dot88) - Kyle Moore, DE, USC
96) STEELERS (Sleet) - Xavier Fulton, OT, Illinois
97) PATRIOTS (Madturk) - Jasper Brinkley, LB, South Carolina
98) BENGALS (Byron2112) - Brandon Tate, WR, North Carolina
99) BEARS (BigTron) - Alex Magee, DT, Purdue
100) GIANTS (Jack's sore libido) - Patrick Turner, WR, USC

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Round 4

101) COWBOYS (hawaiianboy) - Mike Thomas, WR, Arizona

102) CHIEFS (Armyr8rfan) - Marcus Freeman, LB, Ohio St.

103) RAMS (BigTron) - Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston State

104) BROWNS (Birdwell) - Johnny Knox, WR, Abilene Christian

105) SEAHAWKS (Raiderfan007) - Zach Follet, LB, California

106) BENGALS (Byron2112) - Jason Phillips, MLB, TCU

107) JAGUARS (brick) - Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia

108) DOLPHINS (Raider Nation) - Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati

109) PACKERS (Raider Nation) - Ricky Jean-Francois, DT, LSU

110) BILLS (massraider) - Andre Brown, RB, NC State

111) 49ERS (Jatfly) - Cedric Peerman, RB, Virginia

112) TEXANS (s.dot88) - Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn St.

113) CHARGERS (Sleet) - Will Johnson, DE, Michigan

114) BRONCOS (Birdwell) - Scott McKillop, LB, Pittsburgh

115) JETS (Raiderfan007) - Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin

116) SAINTS (Langlier) - Glen Coffee, RB, Alabama

117) COWBOYS (hawaiianboy) - David Veikune, LB, Hawaii

118) SAINTS (Langlier) - Asher Allen, CB, Georgia

119) BEARS (BigTron) - Stryker Sulak, DE, Mizz

120) BUCCANEERS (Armyr8rfan) - De'Monte Bolden, DT, Tennesee

121) EAGLES (brick) - Dannell Ellerbe, LB, Georgia

122) TEXANS (s.dot88) - Matt Shaughnessy, DE, Wisconsin

123) RAVENS (Jatfly) - Kevin Barnes, CB, Maryland

124) PATRIOTS (Madturk) - Austin Collie, WR, BYU

125) FALCONS (massraider) - Bradley Fletcher, CB, Iowa

126) RAIDERS (Madturk) - Mitch King, DT/DE, Iowa

127) COLTS (massraider) - DeAngelo Smith, CB, Cincinnatti

128) PANTHERS (brick) - James Casey, TE, Rice

129) GIANTS (Jack's sore libido) - Greg Toler, CB, St. Pauls

130) TITANS (Langlier) - Cornelius Ingram, TE, Florida

131) CARDINALS (s.dot88) - Jarred Dillard, WR, Rice

132) STEELERS (Sleet) - Andy Levitre, OG, Oregon State

133) CHARGERS (Sleet) - Terrance Taylor, NT, Michigan

134) CHARGERS (Sleet) - Joel Bell, OT, Furman

135) TITANS (Langlier) - Kaluka Maiava, LB, USC

136) COLTS (massraider)

Round 5

137) LIONS (hawaiianboy)
138) RAMS (BigTron)
139) CHIEFS (Armyr8rfan)
140) BRONCOS (Birdwell)
141) EAGLES (brick)
142) BENGALS (Byron2112)
143) FALCONS (NIPS)
144) JAGUARS (brick)
145) PACKERS (Raider Nation)
146) 49ERS (Jatfly)
147) BILLS (massraider)
148) CHARGERS (Sleet)
149) BRONCOS (Birdwell)
150) REDSKINS (Jack's sore libido)
151) GIANTS (Jack's sore libido)
152) TEXANS (s.dot88)
153) EAGLES (brick)
154) BEARS (BigTron)
155) BUCCANEERS (Armyr8rfan)
156) COWBOYS (hawaiianboy)
157) EAGLES (brick)
158) VIKINGS (Byron2112)
159) PATRIOTS (Madturk)
160) FALCONS (NIPS)
161) DOLPHINS (Raider Nation)
162) RAVENS (Jatfly)
163) PANTHERS (brick)
164) GIANTS (Jack's sore libido)
165) COLTS (massraider)
166) COWBOYS (hawaiianboy)
167) CARDINALS (s.dot88)
168) STEELERS (Sleet)
169) STEELERS (Sleet)
170) PATRIOTS (Madturk)
171) 49ERS (Jatfly)
172) COWBOYS (hawaiianboy)

[hawaiianboy]

1) Lions: Matt Stafford

Considered taking Raji just to piss off the Rajiites here... Nobody really deserving of the #1 spot, so I'll take the shot at giving Calvin Johnson a strong armed QB that can get him the rock down the line...

[brick]

Reporting in from parts unknown



Yo. The Rams will select Aaron Curry LB Wake

[BigTron]

2. The Rams consider offense here. LT and WR would fit... but they go Defense. This side of the ball been a joke for far too long and Aaron Curry is the safest pick in the draft (Patrick Willis Jr.) There are still some stop gap LT's to be had at cheap price and they drafted a WR last year in Rnd 1. Who was the last great Ram LB?

Aaron Curry.

[Armyr8rfan]

# 3 The Pick: Michael Crabtree WR, TT

The Reason: B.J Raji was a close second here as KC looks to implement 3-4, but taking Crabtree and giving Cassell the tools to succeed is top priority, could be his bigger, faster Wes Welker......Plus it keeps him from us, double edged sword.

[007]

4: The pick: Eugene Monroe, LT Virginia.

Everybody here knows he's the top player on my board, and Seattle just got the best pure LT in this draft. 2 sacks given up in his career, and he gets to spend a season learning behind one of the best in Walter Jones.

[Birdwell]

#5: The Pick, Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas

The Browns have holes. They were 30th in scoring O and 31st in terms of yards, 16th in scoring D but only 26th in terms of yards. (Without looking it up, this suggests they really had time of possession issues, the D on the field a lot.) The reflex would be to go O. But they have Derek Anderson and a first round pick in Brady Quinn, Jamal Anderson ran for 1,000 yards last year, and Braylon Edwards -- and only gave up 24 sacks. No obvious holes there, but the injuries at QB hurt, and not having someone opposite Edwards hurt -- though the departed Kellen Winslow, Jr. added something.

So while there was some temptation to take Brandon Pettigrew or a running back to step in for Jamal Lewis, both areas could be addressed in later rounds -- and I found a more glaring problem. 17 sacks for the season -- despite the fact that the Browns had a respectable 23 picks. This lead to the decision to select the top-rated pass rusher in Brian Orakpo to help address this issue. If Mangini can make nice with Sean Rogers, Orakpo makes for a much more dangerous D-line.

[Byron2112]

#6 - Bengals pick, Andre Smith T Alabama

The Bengals need a tackle to protect their best player, Carson Palmer, so he can return this offense to a strength. Smith is a complete tackle that can also make a difference in the running game. Marvin Lewis is never one to shy away from a black sheep draft prospect if he thinks he's got the talent so Smith's odd pre-draft behavior is a non-factor.

[brick]

Alright MadTurk, who you going to piss off? You can't win drafting for the Raiders.

[massraider]

Alright MadTurk, who you going to piss off? You can't win drafting for the Raiders.

Give him a moment, he just learned to his dismay that he can't draft Tank Johnson here.

[CrossBones]

Give him a moment, he just learned to his dismay that he can't draft Tank Johnson here.Calm down.

He's a work and has no computer.

I'm feeling a reach here... ugh.

[Sleet]

We can only wish the draft actually broke like this (the key being Stafford going #1 to Detroit). I like Monroe and A. Smith better than J. Smith.

[Madturk]

Drum Roll Please ::::::::::::

And with the 7th selection in this years draft the Oakland Raiders have selected




















BJ Raji DT Boston College.. surprise surprise :pound:I actually thought Byron would have taken him for the Bungles as they need DL help as well. It would have then basically forced me to choose between Nipsy's boy Everette Brown or J Smith from Baylor.

I don't care if the scouting reports have him as an UT 3 tech guy. He's a run stopper that commands double teams which should free up TK to have a huge year and should help plug the sieve of a leak that has been our run defense for the past 6 years.

So screw you haters:p That's the emmis.

[Sleet]

Raji, raji, raji. :beerbang:

[NIPS]

Well, after a few cold ones with my pal Rio, we certainly came to the conclusion that we needed a replacement for Matt "Snow God" Jones, however, Jason Smith is just to good to pass up

Jason Smith - LT - Baylor

[Raider Nation]

Green Bay Packers select:

Everette Brown, DE, Florida State

With Green Bay moving to a 3-4 it's a little unclear how Aaron Kampman is going to transition to OLB. So adding a guy who is probably a little better natural fit in a 3-4 and brings some speed off the edge will help in the move to a new philosophy.

[NIPS]

Green Bay Packers select:

Everette Brown, DE, Florida State


Money

[jatfly]

And with the 10th Pick :The San Francisco 49ers Select : Mark Sanchez, QB USC

I wanted to go on the Defensive side but with the cluster fuck they have at QB, I have to see them make a change. Shaun Hill, J.T. O'Sullivan, Jamie Martin, and Alex Smith are all garbage.

[massraider]

Buffalo Bills, with the 11th pick, select:

Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss

Jason Peters ain't happy, and RT is a gaping mess. Bills would really like to go D-line here, but it is just too early for these guys.

[Birdwell]

# 12, The Pick, Brian Cushing, LB, USC

Wow, unpredictable draft so far. Where to start with Denver? They have a cry-baby pro bowl QB who wants out, an offensive line in some transition, and a mess of a defense that couldn't stop anyone in a 4-3 and now is going 3-4? Oh, man, this is the only time I will publicly admit feeling a little sorry for this franchise, as I imagine what must be going on in their war room.

Very thin at the LB position for a team thinking about going 3-4, and also lacking a NT possibility. This entire draft has reach written all over it, drafting for needs. A 4-3 team giving up 5 yards per rush (30th in the league) really sucks, and giving up a net of 7 yards per pass attempt was good for 27th in the league. All their DTs are possible 3-4 DEs, so not going there. Tempted to have taken Aaron Maybin as a possible SAM/rush LB, and if he's available when Denver picks, I could see them going that way.

But the way this draft has come out, Brian Cushing, the best true LB available, has got to be the pick. Boss Bailey is not a terrible WILL, but Cushing can play SAM or one of the middle spots in a 3-4, so he has to be the pick -- maybe he can coachupDumervil to the LB position while helping his new team pray that Ron Brace is availble when they pick in the 2nd -- otherwise Cushing and the rest of the LB corps is going to be seeing their share of O-linemen up close and personal all season long.

And that concludes my sympathy for the Broncos. Bad drafts, taking on too many personnnel head cases, and picking a fight with the starting QB were all acts of commission, and the chickens are coming home to roost. Dollars to donuts they pick higher than 12th next year.

[Jack's sore libido]

Redskins will select Tyson Jackson.

The Redskins don't have much in the way of defensive ends.

[hawaiianboy]

Not to step on Brick's toes any, but maybe the guy who just made his pick should be required to PM the next guy up to help move this thing along some?....

[Armyr8rfan]

It worked for me and RF007.

[brick]

Not to step on Brick's toes any, but maybe the guy who just made his pick should be required to PM the next guy up to help move this thing along some?....

Works for me. I'll send one off to lang to get things started.

[007]

You would figure if a guy is checking his PM's, he should be checking the status of the draft he signed up for, LOL.

Im all for it though.

[Langlier]

Malcolm Jenkins - sorry for the delay

[s.dot88]

15th Overall, Texans take Jeremy Maclin - WR, Missouri

Wanted Malcom Jenkins since he could help at corner or safety. Thought about Beanie Wells to team up with Slaton, but didn't think a split guy was worth the pick. I think Maclin opens things up and adds room for creativity. Perfect complimentary guy to Walter and Andre Johnson and could return kicks right away. Not the biggest need, but worth the pick IMO

[Madturk]

We'll be lucky to get through this mock by the actual draft :D

[Langlier]

15th Overall, Texans take Jeremy Maclin - WR, Missouri

Wanted Malcom Jenkins since he could help at corner or safety. Thought about Beanie Wells to team up with Slaton, but didn't think a split guy was worth the pick. I think Maclin opens things up and adds room for creativity. Perfect complimentary guy to Walter and Andre Johnson and could return kicks right away. Not the biggest need, but worth the pick IMO

not a bad idea. i went with malcolm as it fits a need (CB) and he's arguably the BPA. Looked hard at Maclin but he's not going to help this O enough (however he'd be a GREAT fit for Brees and what he likes to do).

[BigTron]

Wow Maclin across form A.Johnson would be nasty as hell. And they could use his returns. Quality pick.

[Sleet]

Chargers: I'm torn between BPA and picking for need. The Chargers need more help on defense than offense, particular at the 5-tech DE.

With Tyson Jackson off the board, Robert Ayers is a possibility. But at 6'3''/272 lbs., he's a little small for the 5-tech DE. (Aaron Maybin is too small, too.)

Ray Maualuga would be a solid choice. That would give SD quite a LB corp, and you can never have too many LBs in a 3-4 scheme.

Before LT re-signed, I thought Knowshon Moreno would be SD's pick. Smith blew it last year by choosing LT over Turner. Now they have an aging RB, who is never healthy by the end of the year, running with Sproles, who's not big enough to carry the load. And I don't think Jacob Hester (5'11''/230 lb) is the answer.

I like Percy Harvin. But SD already has Sproles, and their WR corp. is okay, particularly when Gates is healthy and commanding double teams. Smith can find a WR later in the draft.

Out of all these players, Knowshon scares me the most. That's the guy I wouldn't want to face for the next 5 years. He's the best RB in the draft and would make a great pair with Sproles (Beany wouldn't fit as well). That said, havig resigned LT, it is too early to replace him and give up on Hester, and Sproles was just franchised.

So the Chargers pick Ray Maualuga.

[007]

NY Jets:

With the 17th pick in the draft, the Jets select, QB Josh Freeman, K st.

I was torn between Freeman and Heyward-Bey, but I've always followed the rule that if you don't have a franchise QB, you take one if he's availible. Rex Ryan will try to get a Joe Flacco-esque rookie year out of Freeman.

[BigTron]

Its between DHB and Harvin for the Bears. With so many QB's and OT's off the board they can still get some value here while filling a need. Because he fits the #1 WR role better IMO and matches up well with Hester... the Bears select Darrius Heyward-Bey.

Besides I dont want that X guy getting pissed haha.

[BigTron]

In my opinion the draft starts getting weak right around here. Harvin, Mack and a few other gems are left but I dont like the remaining depth.

[Armyr8rfan]

With Josh Freeman off the board, this becomes a no brainer. With Carnell Williams suffering from another torn patella tendon, and Ernest Graham probably being best suited as a backup, the Bucs get a gift, a legit top ten talent, and select.....Chris "Beanie"Wells from OSU.

[Jack's sore libido]

You do know the Bucs signed Derrick Ward, right?

[RaiderRobert]

You do know the Bucs signed Derrick Ward, right?

You can never have too many of 1 position. Kinda like how some idiots in here want us to draft another UT to throw on the pile with Kelly, Warren, Joseph, etc.

[Sleet]

Three runnnig backs didn't prevent Al from drafting McFadden, and Derrick Ward has proved he's good in 3-back rotation. :D

[Jack's sore libido]

I'm OK with the pick. Only asked because he didn't mention Ward in his write-up.

[brick]

You can never have too many of 1 position. Kinda like how some idiots in here want us to draft another UT to throw on the pile with Kelly, Warren, Joseph, etc.

The Raji jihadests may be misslead, but I wouldn't call them idiots. :D

[hawaiianboy]

I was just thinking who is the asshole holding this up, and it turns out to be me....


20) Lions Vontae Davis (CB) Illinois

Considered the remaining OT's and DT's but ultimately went with an athletic corner that can play in both a man and man off scheme...

[007]

Pfft.

Nice pick, Lil Al!

Anthony Henry and Philip Buchanon are the shiznit in Detriot brah!

[brick]

With the 21st Pick in the 1st round, The Eagles select

Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma St

The Eagles let the player they franchised just one year ago, L.J. Smith, go via free agency this offseason. In Pettigrew they get one of the better blocking TE's to come along in quite awhile, who has the ability to develop into a top pass catcher and the compete TE they thought they had in Smith.

[hawaiianboy]

Pfft.

Nice pick, Lil Al!

Anthony Henry and Philip Buchanon are the shiznit in Detriot brah!

Ken Rohrer's newsletter says they'd prefer to team Henry with Bullocks at free safety...

[007]

KEN ROHER? LOL!

C'mon man, Im canadian, but Im not a total idiot, haha.

[Byron2112]

#22 - Vikings pick, Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest

Vikings backfield is nothing special, no depth and both starters are in their contract year. Smith may be a shorty at 5'9", but the guy had 21 int's at Wake and with that Vik's pass rush should feast on some a the stiffs playing QB in the division and bring some big plays to that D.

Would love to get a special QB, OT or WR here, but what's a brother too do?

[Madturk]

The Patrinots select James Laurinitis ILb Ohio State. The Pats have need areas at both DB and LB but I think he'll be a good fit in New England.

[NIPS]

Gradys like 40

Dirty Birds select DT Peria Jerry

[007]

Gradys like 40

Dirty Birds select DT Peria Jerry

Grady signed with Detroit.

OK pick anyways though.

[Raider Nation]

The Miami Dolphins select:

Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia

[NIPS]

Grady signed with Detroit.

OK pick anyways though.

Okay pick??

Who else do they have on that D line??

[jatfly]

Ravens Select - Percy Harvin, WR Florida

Speedster for Flacco to toss them deep to.

[massraider]

The Indianapolis Colts waste no time racing to the podium to make their selection.

Alex Mack, C, California.

Alex will miss the beginning of training camp, as he will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in August, but expects to be ready by Week 1.

[brick]

With their 2nd pick in the 1st round, the Eagles select:

Eben Britton, LT, Arizona

The Eagles are dangerously thin at tackle, and if you have any doubt that they need some LT help, just look at what Osi did the last time he played them. Britton will need to be protected in the passing game early as his gets some polish, but with Pettigrew already in the flock, the Eagles have a TE who is excellent in helping out in pass pro.

[Langlier]

The Indianapolis Colts waste no time racing to the podium to make their selection.

Alex Mack, C, California.

Alex will miss the beginning of training camp, as he will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in August, but expects to be ready by Week 1.

horrible pick. They drafted Pollack and Justice last year... why take another C this year when they have so many needs on D still?

[massraider]

horrible pick. They drafted Pollack and Justice last year... why take another C this year when they have so many needs on D still?

Because the DTs or DEs that go now aren't worth 1st round picks. BPA, my friend. Someone slides over to guard, and boom, the Colts improve the line.

I'll let someone else reach for the next Justin Harrell.

[007]

I like the Mack pick. You know he's the best interior lineman, you know Saturday is older, and you know Justice and Pollack can both play G.

Its a perfect case of good teams making smart moves to continue their success.

[Jack's sore libido]

Giants need a big receiver, but I don't think they'd be big on Kenny Britt's attitude or Hakeem Nicks' weight gain.

So they fill another need with DB Sean Smith, Utah.

The Giants are really only two-deep at corner, and in this league you need more than that. Plus, he can play safety, where they just picked Kenny Phillips but aren't real talented alongside him.

[Langlier]

In an effort to replace some of what Hayneworth gave them the titans select

Evander Hood - DT - Mizzou

[s.dot88]

At 31, the Cardinals take Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia

If that running game could get going, that offense could be even more dangerous than it already is. I really wanted to go with Aaron Maybin to play rushbacker in the 3-4, but ultimately i think this team needs to start being able to run the ball to consistantly win.

[Sleet]

Pittsburgh: This is a case where need meets BAP. The question is, do you take the BAP on offense or defense.

Going into last season, people were down on Pittsburgh's OL. Pittsburgh's OL struggle to protect Big Ben and to open holes. Pittsburgh could not run the ball as it was used to, and Ben to a lot of sacks, which resulted in turnovers in the games they lost. Thus, obvious choices would be OT William Beatty, or C's Max Unger or Erik Woods.

However, down the stretch and when it mattered, Pittsburgh's OL held up. Pittsburgh won the SuperBowl. So, how bad can they be? Do they really need to draft the 5th or 6th best OT with their #1 pick? Thus, I'd lean more towards Unger or Woods.

Pittsburgh also is known for drafting stud defensive players and grooming them to dominate in two to three years. They feed the pipeline, so when one of their starters want a big-money deals, they can say, no thanks, as they have another stud in the waiting.

Pittsburgh's next stud in the making could be Jarrod Gilbert. At 6'5''/288 lb. DT with the ability to leap out of pools. Some say this guy might be a 5-tech DT dream. Becuase he comes from a small college, the question is, is Gilbert stout enough, now, to play the 5-tech DT in the NFL. He likely has the pass-rush ability that Tomline covets. DE is a position of need, as much, or almost as much as OL.

Because it is the guy I would want the Raiders to draft, and becuase Pittsburgh is more likely to find OL help in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, rather than a impact 5-tech DT, my pick is: Jarrod Gilbert, San Jose State.

[Madturk]

Damnit Sleet. :p

Jarron was my sleeper second.

[hawaiianboy]

33. Detroit Lions: William Beatty (OT) Connecticut

The Lions get a player they considered taking with pick 20... Beatty gives the Lions an athletic LT to bookend with RT Gosder Cherilus and give Matt Stafford edge protection for years to come...


Next up Madturk Millen...

[Madturk]

The Patsies select Darius Butler CB UConn

[BigTron]

The Rams would have loved to address LT right here. With Beatty just coming off the board my perfect Rams draft is ruined. Butler would have also been high on the Rams board. But they are happy to replace T.Holt with a solid young WR to pair with D.Avery. The Rams select Hakeem Nicks WR UNC. Britt would also be a good choice but I prefer Nicks hands.

[007]

Tronner with a beauty pick!

Nicks falls into round two and gets paired with Donnie Avery? I like it!

[Birdwell]

Didn't think we'd get into the second round so quickly. Thanks for the reminders, brors.

#36: The Pick, Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut

The Browns got by with Jamal Lewis last year -- will he make it all the way throgh this one? Brown adds a good set of hands out of the backfield. Not bad value here.

[007]

Tough pick for Seattle here at 37.

I debated CB and then thought Trufant, Kelly Jennings and Josh Wilson might be a good enough trio, especially with rumors of Ken Lucas coming back to Seattle. Maybe they find a CB a little later...

I thought about guys like Brace, Ayers and Johnson for the DL, but they have newly aquired Corey Redding, 2nd year DE Lawrence Jackson, Kerney, Tapp, Mebane, Colin Cole and Red Bryant on the DL, so I don't think they address it this early. The DL isnt as weak as I think it is in Seattle.

I then looked at the GAPING hole at LB with the loss of Julian Peterson. Seattle Selects versatile pass rushing OLB Clay Matthews Jr. USC.

He'll play opposite Leroy Hill and Lofa Tatupu in the LB corps and stay on the West Coast.

[Byron2112]

#38 - Bengals pick, Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech

Bengals need pass rush in a bad way. They had the second lowest sack total in the league with 17(only the chefs were worse with like, two). Alotta people question Johnson's drive, but he finished school with 28 TFL and 19 sacks... not too shabby.

Thought about Brace here to shore up the middle, but he doesn't get after the QB and they have some young DT prospects in Shirley and Sims, so I wasn't gonna pass up on the super-freaky-prototype measurables and ability of Johnson.

[NIPS]

Jags select

Louis Delmas -S

[Madturk]

Well it was basically a two horse race here which was affected by the Samson Satele signing earlier this week. Max Unger would be a great fit for the OL because he brings a tremendous amount of versatility. Unger and Satele could be the anchor of the middle of the line for years to come.

However, I'm still not very confident about our wr corps. I think some of us expecting too much from J Walker, JLH, and Schilens. So in light of this, I picked the player who I thought was the most pro ready and could contribute right away. While he may not be the speediest of the receiving class, he has great hands, great work ethic, football IQ, and pedigree.

The Raiders select Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State

[Raider Nation]

The Green Bay Packers select:

Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma

The Packers need help along the offensive line and while they probably have a more pressing need at RT, taking a top-flight OG like Robinson allows them to slide Daryn Colledge to RT to see if he can take hold of that position. The Packers also had one of the worst inside running games in the league last year and Robinson will definitely help there.

[jatfly]

Well it was basically a two horse race here which was affected by the Samson Satele signing earlier this week. Max Unger would be a great fit for the OL because he brings a tremendous amount of versatility. Unger and Satele could be the anchor of the middle of the line for years to come.

However, I'm still not very confident about our wr corps. I think some of us expecting too much from J Walker, JLH, and Schilens. So in light of this, I picked the player who I thought was the most pro ready and could contribute right away. While he may not be the speediest of the receiving class, he has great hands, great work ethic, football IQ, and pedigree.

The Raiders select Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State
Raji and Robiskie, I would be a happy camper...Great work Turk

[massraider]

The Bills pause, look at the list of drafted players, look at their draft board, and laugh. They were debating Oher and Maybin in round 1, and looky here.:woot:


The Bills select DE-OLB Aaron Maybin.

:beerbang:

[Jack's sore libido]

You bitch. I fucking knew you'd do that.

[hawaiianboy]

Raji and Robiskie, I would be a happy camper...Great work Turk


I wouldn't... Sorry Turk... I just don't see Robiskie as ever being a lead receiver, he's a complementary guy IMO... All we'd be doing is throwing him into the mix with Schillens, Higgins and Shields... Robert Ayers and Max Unger are both better players that would fill needs that I would be very disappointed leaving on the board... Unger would make a fine replacement for Carlisle, as well as give us another option at one of the tackle spots should the two question marks we have there not pan out... I would have even preferred taking Brace there to team again with Raji since that opens up moving Kelly outside...

[massraider]

You bitch. I fucking knew you'd do that.

That's the finest compliment a mocker can hope for.:chucle:

[Byron2112]

I wouldn't... Sorry Turk... I just don't see Robiskie as ever being a lead receiver, he's a complementary guy IMO... All we'd be doing is throwing him into the mix with Schillens, Higgins and Shields... Robert Ayers and Max Unger are both better players that would fill needs that I would be very disappointed leaving on the board... Unger would make a fine replacement for Carlisle, as well as give us another option at one of the tackle spots should the two question marks we have there not pan out... I would have even preferred taking Brace there to team again with Raji since that opens up moving Kelly outside...

I have to agree with this, Robiski is a real "meh" WR, added to a group full of "meh"... and I was actually feeling Turk might be thinking out of the box and pick Brace...

[007]

You can't please em all Turk.

I'd be completely fine with Raji-Robiskie.

We've had years of taking fliers in the early rounds on unproven athletes like Langston Walker, Teyo Johnson, Stanford Routt, Sam Williams, Mario Henderson, Arman Shields and Delawrence Grant....And now we're upset at taking a good, proven, sneaky athletic college player? LOL.

Robiskie is the type of guy everyone loves on their team. Runs good routes, sneaky fast, hard worker, durable and has upside as a primary guy. He's been around the NFL for years through his dad, he's pro ready and he has an NFL pedigree.

I'd be OK with Unger too, and Brace is intriguing there...

Ayers is a guy I feel is the most overrated, bar none in this draft.

8 CAREER sacks, including 3 as a senior, whereas a guy like Michael Johnson with 9 sacks last year is the boom/bust prospect?

Ayers is an average prospect sky rocketing in a weak draft. I'd take a chance on Barwin before Ayers.

[massraider]

You can't please em all Turk.

I'd be completely fine with Raji-Robiskie.

Robiskie is the type of guy everyone loves on their team. Runs good routes, sneaky fast, hard worker, durable and has upside as a primary guy. He's been around the NFL for years through his dad, he's pro ready and he has an NFL pedigree.

I'd be OK with Unger too, and Brace is intriguing there...

Ayers is a guy I feel is the most overrated, bar none in this draft.

8 CAREER sacks, including 3 as a senior, whereas a guy like Michael Johnson with 9 sacks last year is the boom/bust prospect?

Ayers is an average prospect sky rocketing in a weak draft. I'd take a chance on Barwin before Ayers.


Agree with the weak class statement. the defensive ends in this class do nothing for me. If we don't get Orakpo, I don't care if we draft one.

[Byron2112]

I agree with you two that the DE's in this draft are "meh" too :D , and I'm not real interested in reaching for one, but I agree with Hboy in that unless the prospect at another postion is special I'd just as soon use our high picks to keep building the line of scrimmage with the best available since ours have been so piss-poor... if that means taking another DT, or another guard/center, so be it. It's not like we aren't in need of added quality at pretty much every position up and down both lines...

[hawaiianboy]

Ayers is an average prospect sky rocketing in a weak draft.

Wait, NOW it's a weak draft.... :pound:


I would have grabbed Turk by the ponytail, hit him on the side of the head with my sap, and run the Unger pick up there... When he woke up, he could have looked at Collie/Dilliard etc later if he felt he needed another #2 or 3 receiver... Well that's not entirely true, I probably would have hit him again if Kruger were there...

[007]

Wait, NOW it's a weak draft.... :pound:


Yep, Im not afraid to admit I was wrong.

I keep listenting to experts (Not you, dont get too cocky) that break it down in simple terms;

The QB's have HUGE questions, The RB's have speed/size/durability issues, CB's are small or slow, or both. The DE's are undersized, the top WR's are slow or small, The top DT has weight problems etc. etc.

I think its a sad testament to your draft class, when a Wake Forest LB or Baylor OT are considered the safest picks.

Don't get me wrong, any of Crab/Raji/Orakpo/Andre in round one makes me happy though.

[NIPS]

Mad.. you're my bro and all

But Turkster.. C'mon man... Larry English DE was there bro

Dig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ad0Famkaas&feature=related

Go pick Dillard in rd 3 bro

[hawaiianboy]

I keep listenting to experts (Not you, dont get too cocky) that break it down in simple terms;

The QB's have HUGE questions, The RB's have speed/size/durability issues, CB's are small or slow, or both. The DE's are undersized, the top WR's are slow or small, The top DT has weight problems etc. etc.

I think its a sad testament to your draft class, when a Wake Forest LB or Baylor OT are considered the safest picks.


If you had just listened to me two months ago you would have had a lot more time to break down film on the American Idol contestants...


Whenever Jatfly is done emptying Amy Trask's trashbaskets, I have Natty's pick locked and cocked...

[Sleet]

You guys are overthinking this.

Turk did fine, likely better than Al will do, unfortunately.

[hawaiianboy]

You guys are overthinking this.

That's only because he drafted right off your board....


Turk sucks... We should have run him out of town when he orchestrated the Randy Moss for John Bowie trade a few year back... Plus he golfs with clubs that have pink grips on them...

[Madturk]

That's only because he drafted right off your board....


Turk sucks... We should have run him out of town when he orchestrated the Randy Moss for John Bowie trade a few year back... Plus he golfs with clubs that have pink grips on them...

Hey HB save you energy, you'll need it later to blow up your inflatable date:p
He's just pissed after he hocked his Don Ho 78's, and found out they were selling on E-Bay for mucho bucks.

Listen, all the DE's are high risk as some of you have already alluded to. If we hadn't nabbed Satele earlier this week, Unger would have been a lock. Aside from Crabs and maybe Macklin, there are no legit #1 wr's left. Robiskie is about as pro ready as any of these guys.

[Sleet]

HB: I would have taken Robert Ayers, DE, Tenn, 6'3''/272 lbs.

He's bigger than Orakpo, Brown, Maybin, and Kruger; Mayhock has him rated as the best DE in the class; 5th best player overall. Kirwan projects him going 20th to Detroit, and wrote this: "I wasn't sure about a one-year starter like Ayers until I watched a tape of 100 plays from the 2008 season. This guy has some of the traits of Dwight Freeney."

I didn't see Ayers play; I can't judge. But at #40, after 5 other DEs have been taken, and given that Burgess is in his contract year, Scott's a pass-rush specialist, and Richardson's not that good, I'd taken this guy and not questioned the pick.

Turk's Raiders would then have the following front four: Burgess/Scott, Raji/Sands, Kelly/Warren, Ayers/Richardson. That would give us an additional 600 lbs of DL to stop the run, three good pass-rushing DEs (Burgess, Scott and Ayers) and DTs (Raji, Kelly, Warren).

I have no problem with Robiskie, though, because he'll play and provides a different skill set than Higgins and Schilens.

[jatfly]

49ers select Connor Barwin, DE/OLB, Cincinnati

[Madturk]

HB: I would have taken Robert Ayers, DE, Tenn, 6'3''/272 lbs.

He's bigger than Orakpo, Brown, Maybin, and Kruger; Mayhock has him rated as the best DE in the class; 5th best player overall. Kirwan projects him going 20th to Detroit, and wrote this: "I wasn't sure about a one-year starter like Ayers until I watched a tape of 100 plays from the 2008 season. This guy has some of the traits of Dwight Freeney."

I didn't see Ayers play; I can't judge. But at #40, after 5 other DEs have been taken, and given that Burgess is in his contract year, Scott's a pass-rush specialist, and Richardson's not that good, I'd taken this guy and not questioned the pick.

Turk's Raiders would then have the following front four: Burgess/Scott, Raji/Sands, Kelly/Warren, Ayers/Richardson. That would give us an additional 600 lbs of DL to stop the run, three good pass-rushing DEs (Burgess, Scott and Ayers) and DTs (Raji, Kelly, Warren).

I have no problem with Robiskie, though, because he'll play and provides a different skill set than Higgins and Schilens.

I probably would have taken Max Unger before Ayers but he certainly merits attention. I just feel that a lot of the DE's at the top of the board are workout warriors who had huge senior campaigns such as the case with Ayers. One hit wonders if you will.

[Raider Nation]

The Miami Dolphins select:

Ron Brace, DT, Boston College

Jason Ferguson seems like he's 103 years old. He can't hold up forever at NT. Brace gives the Dolphins the size and ability to play the 5-technique. He may not start in year 1 due to Ferguson, but he's definitely the NT in waiting now and will likely see time as Ferguson isn't the model of physical health.

[Sleet]

No complaints about Unger or Brace, either. Al should be able to find a player that helps our team immediately. But, alas, even with such players on the board at WR, OL, DE, DT, Al will draft his CB of the future with the #40 pick. :eek:

[Jack's sore libido]

Giants take LeSean McCoy to replace Derrick Ward in their lineup.

[s.dot88]

Texans take Robert Ayers, DE Tennessee

developing him across from Mario with Amobi Okoye in the middle could be nice

[Madturk]

New England selects Kenny Britt WR Rutgers

[Birdwell]

#48: The Pick, Chris Baker, NT, Hampton

I said in the first round that this would likely be a reach draft most of the way through for the Donkeys. And here it comes: with Ron Brace off the board and the Donks switching to a 3-4 without a nose tackle, this is the best player on the board. Only two years of college football, I believe (transfer from Penn State with junior status), but goes 6'2" 325 and a 35.5 inch vertical at the combine. Look at those numbers again, and you see a guy who is hella explosive. Not top competitition and as a junior never saw an all-star game -- but if the new regime intends to go 3-4, this is the only option. Even if it is a round early.

[BigTron]

Sorry guys. I was out of town all weekend and very busy. The Bears will select Max Unger. They signed a few T's and they have a very good C. But this guy can play all over on the OL and help in multiple spots. He could fill in a C/G/T and eventually earn his own spot.

[massraider]

#48: The Pick, Chris Baker, NT, Hampton

I said in the first round that this would likely be a reach draft most of the way through for the Donkeys. And here it comes: with Ron Brace off the board and the Donks switching to a 3-4 without a nose tackle, this is the best player on the board. Only two years of college football, I believe (transfer from Penn State with junior status), but goes 6'2" 325 and a 35.5 inch vertical at the combine. Look at those numbers again, and you see a guy who is hella explosive. Not top competitition and as a junior never saw an all-star game -- but if the new regime intends to go 3-4, this is the only option. Even if it is a round early.

This is the kind of pick people make fun of, but happens every year. Nice curveball.

[Birdwell]

#50: The Pick, Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina

Having addressed the pass rush (and will again if this gets down to another round or two) and backup RB (maybe starting by week 10), it's time to address the offense. With the trade of Winslow, the receiveing position looks weak. Given the depth of this draft at WR, that can come later for a guy to pair with Edwards. But the TE position was very important in the Browns O when Winslow was healthy, and Cook presents similar matchup problems., He played for the ole Ball Coach, who certainly knows his O. Ripped off a fast 40 at the combine, though will probably need to add a little weight to be a more effecuve blocker. However, since Winslow was no better a blocker than Johnnie Lee Higgins, Cook could step right in. Stay off the motorcycles, and he''ll start week one.

[hawaiianboy]

51) Dallas Cowboys: Fili Moala (DL) USC

The Boys grab a player that can contribute as the one gap NT or play the 5 tech in Wade Phillips aggressive 34 defense...

[007]

The NY Jets secure excelllent value and good upside, by selecting William Moore, SS Missourri to team with Kerry Rhodes in a revamped NYJ secondary also featuring Jim Leonhard and Lito Sheppard.

[Jack's sore libido]

The Jets also re-upped Abram Elam.

With Rhodes, Leonhard and Elam, I sorta doubt they'd take Moore, but you never know. Good athlete.

[007]

I looked up and down some draft value rankings, and couldnt see a DT I liked, a DE that fit the 3-4 or a WR worth a top 50 pick...I thought about a RB to team up in their stable, but I figured Moore would be a versatile player for them on special teams and on D.

I figured it was good value, although I would understand a Jets fan being pissed.

[brick]

With the 53rd pick the Eagles Select:

Patrick Chung, S, Oregon

With Brian Dawkins headed to the Broncos, the Eagles have a need for a hard hitting safety to back up their fire zone front. Chung hits like a ton of bricks, but may give up the big play on occasion due to his coverage liabilities. Essentially the Eagles have replaced Dawkins with a similar, but younger and cheaper player. The big loss is leadership.

[Byron2112]

#54 - Vikings pick, Phil Loadholt T Oklahoma

Lets see if Peterson can gain any yards behind this giant bastard.

[NIPS]

Mclures 33 years old. Falcons take a solid young center to grow many years with Ryan

Falcons select

Eric Wood - C Louisville

The Nips beefing up the Falcons interior line like a fuckin Champ

"Outta the way McKay"

[Raider Nation]

The Miami Dolphins select:

Ramses Barden, WR, Cal-Poly


Miami desperately needs more receiving weapons and Barden gives them a great red zone threat and potential starter down the line opposite Ted Ginn Jr. I'm intrigued with the notion of Barden's size opposite Ginn's speed. Ginn going deep and opening up the middle of the field for a guy like Barden could be devastating in years to come.

[Jack's sore libido]

Another stab in the heart.

Barden would have replaced Plaxico Burress in my inner Giants fan's dreams ...

[BigTron]

The Miami Dolphins select:

Ramses Barden, WR, Cal-Poly


Miami desperately needs more receiving weapons and Barden gives them a great red zone threat and potential starter down the line opposite Ted Ginn Jr. I'm intrigued with the notion of Barden's size opposite Ginn's speed. Ginn going deep and opening up the middle of the field for a guy like Barden could be devastating in years to come.

Good pick. He fits nicely with what they have there.

[Byron2112]

Looks like this has already kinda petered out after a round and a half huh?

bastards...

[BigTron]

Yeah i thought the first round was suppose to be longer haha.

[jatfly]

Raven Select :OLB Cody Brown, Connecticut
Height: 6-2. Weight: 244.

[Madturk]

The Patsies select OT, Jamon Meredith South Carolina.

Not a huge need area for the Pats but someone they can develop over the next couple of years to become a starter.

[brick]

Thanks to last years draft day trade with Phily, the Panthers finally make their 1st pick late in the 2nd round, and the selection is:

Paul Kruger, DE, Utah

The Panthers need depth across the board, but there just isn't a DT they are comfortable with here, and there is still value to be had later at TE, so they take the best DE still on their board. Kruger is a Chris Long type DE, who isn't rated as highly since he has a long way to go with technique. He should be able to step in from day 1 as a better pass rush option than Brayton across from Peppers.

[Jack's sore libido]

Giants are never one to pass on a pass rusher.

So with no WRs left that I like to replace Burress, they take Larry English.

[massraider]

Indianapolis Cols select Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn.

Colts need defense, linebacker and DT, and the Lbs here aren't blowing my skirt up.

[Birdwell]

massraider,

Nice pick on Marks. Probably right about where he rates, though I could see him going earlier. You're spot-on about what the Colts need, and they would have to hope if they take Marks that he is as stout against the run in the NFL as he was in college.

[Langlier]

Titans Select

WR - Derrick Williams - Penn State

[Sleet]

Man this thing is moving slow.

[jatfly]

Man this thing is moving slow.
Yeah this thing needs to end after this round.....

[BigTron]

We just need an enforced time limit. Someone should make the pick for the people who are busy or whatever.

[jatfly]

Time limit is fine, but whats the point after the 4th round? There is no one on the board at that point many of us will know or even have a clue about?

[brick]

We just need an enforced time limit. Someone should make the pick for the people who are busy or whatever.

There is a 24 hour time limit. If sdott hasn't made his pick by 8:15, whoever is watching the clock can feel free to make the pick for him (I'll be at the Pens game, so I won't be around to enforce the limit).

The other thing is feel free to PM me if you know you won't be around for awhile. Nobody has done this since early round 1.

[BigTron]

Time limit is fine, but whats the point after the 4th round? There is no one on the board at that point many of us will know or even have a clue about?

Yeah i think 3 rounds is fine.

[s.dot88]

sorry for holding things up, didnt know it was my turn, it took forever to get back to me

Cardinals Select DJ Moore, CB, Vanderbilt

[Sleet]

Pittsburgh need help on the OL. It could take Xavier Fulton (6'5''/301 lb OT) or Jonathon Luigs (6'3''/302 lb C). Both are atheletic. Fulton is soft, though, which I don't think fits the Pittsburgh's way. Luigs needs to get stronger and might not have the frame to get bigger, but is less of a project and can play at the next level.

Pittsburgh selects: Luigs, C, Arkansas.

[hawaiianboy]

3rd ROUND

65) Lions: Chase Coffman (TE) Mizzou

Considered the much under rated Darryl Beckwith to give the Lions a much needed old school physical presence at the MLB spot, but went with the TE to help out the rookie QB Stafford... He should get a lot of chances with Calvin Johnson taking coverage with him...


Next up, Tron to jack up Spags chances of succeeding in St Louie...

[BigTron]

The Rams select Troy Kropog LT Tulane.

I took the best player on defense round 1 in Curry. So now they have the LB of the future and some hope on D. Then I paired D.Avery up with a slipping Hakeem Nicks in Rnd2 to give them two legit starters on the outside at WR. So now I'll fill the glaring hole a LT with a 3 year starter who is excellent in pass protection. You are welcome Rams.

[Armyr8rfan]

KC takes, Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconson.

[Birdwell]

Hell, let's go seven rounds if we have the time. The draft is still far away. If folks actually do this with the explanation as asked for, it will tecah us all about players. Everyone has drilled down for 7 rounds of Oakland (at least all the Lil Al competitors will).

Why not? What else we gonna do?

[Madturk]

I'm for extending the contest if Brick is willing.

[jatfly]

Hell, let's go seven rounds if we have the time. The draft is still far away. If folks actually do this with the explanation as asked for, it will tecah us all about players. Everyone has drilled down for 7 rounds of Oakland (at least all the Lil Al competitors will).

Why not? What else we gonna do?

It's gonna take us 3 weeks to get to the 7th round. And I don't want anyone learning anymore about players, I like a dumb draft field for the Lil Al.

[Jack's sore libido]

Just draft until the draft.

However many rounds we get through, that's how much we get through.

But for fuck's sake, check in every now and then!

And if you're 3 picks away and you know you only check once a day, send a list of 3 players to the guy who picks AFTER you.

[007]

Seattle goes for value, and selects 5-10 210 pound CB, Jairus Byrd from nearby Oregon.

[hawaiianboy]

69) Cowboys: Herman Johnson OG (LSU)

After considering Pat White in a slash role, the Cowboys do the right thing and get the gigantic Herman Johnson to team with the gigantic Leonard Davis at guard... Kyle Kosier is an alright player, but we're going to wear that ass out with the monsters in the run game...

[brick]

Like I have said, I will keep this going as long as there is still interest.

But if you are no longer interested in participating, feel free to opt out. This is ment to be fun, not a chore.

Just let me know either here or via PM when you want out, and I will find a replacement for you. That way those who want to try and get through 7 rounds can, and those who want to hold out for Lil' Al can keep their insights private.

[jatfly]

Like I have said, I will keep this going as long as there is still interest.

But if you are no longer interested in participating, feel free to opt out. This is ment to be fun, not a chore.

Just let me know either here or via PM when you want out, and I will find a replacement for you. That way those who want to try and get through 7 rounds can, and those who want to hold out for Lil' Al can keep their insights private.

I am good.....it just kills me waiting on every one!

[Byron2112]

# 70 Bengals pick, Antoine Caldwell C Alabama

Need pick here. Caldwell was a four year starter in the SEC, a captain and a smarty pants that graduated from Alabama in three years. Maybe he and Smith can challenge each other to reach their pro potential..

[Madturk]

With some major question marks at the safety position, the Raiders select SS Chip Vaughn Wake

Good size, very good speed and solid tackler. We finally get a guy who can knock the snot out of people back there. While he's not ideal in pass coverage, I think he would make a nice tandem with Cal Branch. Sure would be one of the fastest safety tandems in the league and both him and Branch are solid tacklers. I'm not feeling Huff at SS.

Ok bring it on beotches:D

[007]

Turk, you listen to us too much!

Raji-Robiskie-Vaughn is gonna look like about 12 Lil Al entries this year, LOL.

[Madturk]

Turk, you listen to us too much!

Raji-Robiskie-Vaughn is gonna look like about 12 Lil Al entries this year, LOL.

Well I thought we had the SS position locked up with Gibril last season. That obviously didn't last long. I wanted defense with this pick and the best candidates available that would fill a need were Tyrone McKenzie ILB from Nipsy's alma mater and Lawrence Sidbury DE Richmond. I went with the snot knocker

[hawaiianboy]

Now we know what happened to Al Locasale once he retired... He was amongst us this whole time....

[Madturk]

Now we know what happened to Al Locasale once he retired... He was amongst us this whole time....

At least I still have my molars. WTF HB? I take it our draft boards are a little different.

[hawaiianboy]

Sorry, your Robiskie pick still chaps my ass... :D

I'll be pretty disappointed if we don't hit the O-line with one of first three picks considering that Barnes is on a one year deal and Carlisle got his ass kicked last year...

Raji, Unger, Vaughn would have worked for me, though as much as I like Chip, I wonder if he's not looking at a switch to LB eventually...

[Madturk]

Sorry, your Robiskie pick still chaps my ass... :D

I'll be pretty disappointed if we don't hit the O-line with one of first three picks considering that Barnes is on a one year deal and Carlisle got his ass kicked last year...

Raji, Unger, Vaughn would have worked for me, though as much as I like Chip, I wonder if he's not looking at a switch to LB eventually...

Personally, I would have tried to make a deal for Braylon Edwards in which case I probably would have considered Unger at #2

[NIPS]

Sorry for the holdup.

With Geraldine Porter busting like Dolly Parton and Matt "Columbian Marching Powder" Jones outta the picture. they got a whole pile of stank

Jags select

Louis Murphy - WR - Florida

[Raider Nation]

The Green Bay Packers select:

Sherrod Martin, CB, Troy

Green Bay needs some depth at CB with Woodson now over 30 and Al Harris slipping in his level of play. Martin is a good size/speed guy and plays well as a physical CB, a trademark of Packer CB's.

[Birdwell]

The mock has already past the point where the Donkeys would get the Bears, first rounder, but they will be getting a pick in the third, #84 overall, and forfeit their fifth to the Bears.

But I don't think the Donkeys will ultimately have two first rounders -- best guess is they package them to move up to make sure they get the #1 QB on their board, whoever that might be, and no guarantee it's Stafford.

[Sleet]

Now that Cutler's been traded, shouldn't we start over? :D

[jatfly]

San Francisco selects: Victor Harris, CB/S, Virginia Tech

[brick]

If it gets to me:

Bills select TE Shawn Nelson, TE, Souther Miss.

2nd ranked TE on our board, will hopefully benefit from TO loosening up the coverage. Bills haven't had a threat at TE in forever, and Nelson's speed will be appreciated. Nice side benefit: He is the cousin of Glenn Dorsey, and can help recruit him in a few years, when Gless is sick of getting beat up in a 3-4 defense. :)

next

[Sleet]

San Diego needs OL, S and DE.

SD also appear thin at CB. Jammer's getting old, Cromardie had a down year, and when Jammer got injured, Cason struggled. SD could move Cason to safety and draft another CB. But I think they'll play Cason another year at CB, and rely on Oliver for depth.

SD let Olshansky go. They did not make much of an effort to re-sign him. My guess is that Smith thinks he can replace Olshansky from within. I doubt that Smith would have created a need on his team, when he didn't have a 2nd round pick to fill it.

SD could go Xavier Fulton, the OT with the most upside available. He has a good frame 6'5''/301 lb and is very atheletic, but, again, he's a little soft and injury prone. My guess is that Fulton is not ready to start, but is more of a project, so SD will pass.

SD defense was a major problem last year. It is behind the offense, although SD did have a down year running the football. But their defense struggled to get off the field, and that put pressure on the offense to score and move away from the running game.

SD needs help at safety both in terms of stopping the run, and in coverage. The Donks just lost their QB. KC's rebuilding. The Hated Ones, believe it or not, are their closest rival, and they open against the Raiders on Monday Night. SD has to stop the run. If they stop the run, Merriman and Phillips will torment JR.

SD selects: Run stopping SS from Nortre Dame, David Burton.

[007]

It went Jatfly-Massraider and then it should be The Jets (Me) right Sleet?

No biggie as I took William Moore already.

The Jets select Juaquin Iglesias, WR Oklahoma.

Good guy to join Cotchery, Stuckey and Clowney.

[Sleet]

My bad. I've got a back-up pick if dot wants the SS from ND.

Brick needs to penalize SD a pick, I think. :D

[s.dot88]

I was planning on going DB, but I was looking at another guy

Texans select Rashad Johnson, FS out of Bama

[Birdwell]

With their first pick in the third round, Denver selects Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon State

With another pick coming up in a few slots, I'll dispense here with the analysis of other needs. With Dre Bly not working out, total uncertainty in the D front 7, and Champ Bailey possibly living more off reputation and poor coverage on the other side than being the guy everyone believes he is, CB is a significant need.

Best guy here is Keenan Lewis. He's got good speed and size, and has shown very good ball skills. Playing at a smaller power, he got tested as his team's best CB and held up pretty well. That should translate into having the confidence to be targeted -- and sometimes beat -- without losing confidence. This D is gonna need that.

[Jack's sore libido]

Redskins take Lawrence Sidbury Jr., DE, Richmond

They really need DEs, IMO.

[Armyr8rfan]

Buccaneers take, Nic Harris, S/OLB, Oklahoma, and hope he can make the switch ala' Cato June.

[NIPS]

I'm bailing out after this rd fellas

[hawaiianboy]

82) Lions Dorell Scott

Schwartz adds some size to the middle of his defensive line....

[Raider Nation]

The Green Bay Packers select:

James Davis, RB, Clemson

The Packers could use some depth behind Ryan Grant as it's unclear is if he's a true workhorse RB and Brandon Jackson hasn't done anything to take reps from him. In this day in age of 3-back offenses in the NFL Davis could step in and immediately contribute.

[Birdwell]

#84: The Pick, Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty

The Donks have brought in a series of retreads at RB, hoping to find one good season left between them. But with Rashad Jennings falling this low, they have got to take a guy who carried his team and has solid character. Considered going WR here, but the value at RB is much better. A number of other names came up, but Jennings is the pick. With one more rep at 225 than Michael Johnson, he'll be able to hold up blocking for whoever ends up at QB.

[brick]

The Eagles faced a tough choice in the 2nd round, with 2 players who filled a need with similar grades on the board. They went with the slightly higher rated player at S, and are now overjoyed that the player they almost took in the 2nd is still there in the 3rd.

The Eagles select:

Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa

Greene is a complete back, in that he runs with power, picks up the blitz well and is dangerous coming out of the backfield in the passing game. Sure he will have some adjusting to do when it comes to the speed of the pro game. But the Eagles now feel better about their depth behind Westbrook than they have in years.

[Birdwell]

brick,

Nice pick in Green, good fit for the Eagles. I was looking at RBs for the Donks when preparing for this, and considered Green, exvcept he's too close in skill set to the Dancing Elephant, and his small hands represented a potential concern in the passing game. His power to Westbrook's lightning, though, makes a nice match.

[massraider]

Redskins take Lawrence Sidbury Jr., DE, Richmond

They really need DEs, IMO.

Steal, I think. I bet no later than mid-second for this kid.

[Byron2112]

#86 Vikings pick, Darry Beckwith, LB LSU

[hawaiianboy]

Via proxy from Natty:

87) DOLPHINS Coye Francies CB San Jose St

[jatfly]

RAVENS SELECT Fenuki Tupou, OT, Oregon

[Madturk]

Patrinots select SS Michael Hamlin Clemson

[NIPS]

Falcons select Cameron Morrah - TE California

[brick]

Thanks for taking part Nips, if anyone is interested in taking over the Falcons and Jags let me know.

[massraider]

Via Proxy:

New York Football Giants select:

Lydon Murtha, OT, nebraska

[massraider]

Indianapolis Colts select:


Tyrone McKenzie, LB, USF

The Colts can use some upgrading in the LB corps, and McKenzie has a little sand in his pants, and will compete with Clint Session and phillip Wheeler at SLB. he also has some versatility to move inside, backing up Gary Brackett. Will probably never be on the field in nickel situations, but the Colts have nickel LBs, what they need are some 1st down run-stuffers.

[brick]

The Carolina Panthers Select:

Pat White, QB/WR, West Virginia

The Panthers have to be wondering if Delhomme has what it takes after he shit the bed against the Cards in the playoffs. But don't have the draft stock to get one of the top QB's, and aren't quite ready to give up on Delhomme and go fullout rebuilding.

White gives them a solid player who can come in and contribute from day 1 while potentially developing into the QB of the future. White fills a need at the WR core where Muhsin is not getting any younger, can provide a match-up nightmare in a Wildcat set with either Williams, Stewart or both. And has shown the kind of arm strength in workouts that leads some to believe that his future may actually be at QB.

[BigTron]

Wow this draft class is getting kinda weak. Not the deepest year i can remember.

P.S. Very good pick for Caro. Pat White would fit nicely there.

[massraider]

Thanks for taking part Nips, if anyone is interested in taking over the Falcons and Jags let me know.

I am happy to take the teams, if no one else steps up. if someone else does, I will take one of them.

[Langlier]

Titans Select - Mike Mickens - Cincy

he dropped a bit and Tenn could use another cover corner

[s.dot88]

Arizona takes Kyle Moore, DE from USC

thought about going OLine here, but the defense is a bigger need at this point. Might be a bit of a reach for Moore at this point, but I like him as a prospect and I think he has the size to hold up at end and the speed to move to rush backer if needed.

[Sleet]

Pittsburgh: Xavier Fulton, OT, Illonois

[Madturk]

Patriots select LB Jasper Brinkley LB South Carolina

[Byron2112]

#98 Bengals pick, Brandon Tate WR North Carolina

[BigTron]

With the #99 selection The Bears draft Alex Magee DT Purdue.

I wanted to go DB, but I like the value of a good DT here.

[Jack's sore libido]

Giants take Patrick Turner, WR, Southern Cal

[brick]

Damn, you guys were on point last night,

4th round is now up, with HB leading things off. (You have to scroll down to the 2nd post, since the 1st post was getting a little long).

As for Nips teams, I took the Jags, and gave the Falcons to Mass (thanks for stepping up).

On with the show.

[hawaiianboy]

101) COWBOYS Mike Thomas (WR) Arizona

Gives the Boys some real toughness they don't currently have at the WR spot...

[Armyr8rfan]

Hey Raiderfan007, make my next couple picks for me, I'm out of town for the n ext week bro.

[007]

Alright Army. I'll try not to dissapoint.

[007]

Filling in for Army with the Chiefs, I think I gotta go defense...

Pick 102: OLB Marcus Freeman, OSU.

[hawaiianboy]

Alright Army. I'll try not to dissapoint.

Ironically, something also said prior to all of 007's 30 second sexual escapades...

[007]

Ironically, something also said prior to all of 007's 30 second sexual escapades...

You know why women fake orgasms?

They think we care.

As long as I'm satisfied, right?

;)

[BigTron]

The Rams select Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State. Fuck it.. its round 4. Lets say the Rams want a guy to groom behind Bulger. This guy has gotten some decent praise and is a value pick in Rnd 4.

[Birdwell]

#104: The Pick, Johnny Knox, WR, Abilene Christian

The Browns lack and explosive wide receiver, someone who can stretch the coverage and open up things for Edwards and the TE. Knox is that guy. It came down to either Knox of Mike Wallace from Ole Miss, but Knox has the higher upside, and Wallace tended to disappear for whole games at a time. Both can return kicks, but Knox has the better initial burst. Call him a poor man's Maclin. With Edwards' arm (Quinn would have to recognize and hit him sooner with his arm), Knox threatens to do some significant damage against teams that try to single him.

Would have liked to go D, but I just don't see value at areas of need for the Browns here.

[brick]

Congrats to Birdwell for selecting the 1st player not on my cheetsheet. I've heard of Knox since he has had some great workouts, but apparently the guy who put together the chart I am using hasn't yet.

(not a knock on the pick in any way, usually I get one of these much earlier due to a homer pick by a fan of some college team)

[007]

The Seahawks need someone to try and replace Julian Peterson...

With pick 105, the Seattle Seahawks select Zach FolletOLB California.

[Byron2112]

#106 Bengals pick, Jason Phillips MLB TCU


Sorry about the wait fellas.

[Birdwell]

Congrats to Birdwell for selecting the 1st player not on my cheetsheet. I've heard of Knox since he has had some great workouts, but apparently the guy who put together the chart I am using hasn't yet.

(not a knock on the pick in any way, usually I get one of these much earlier due to a homer pick by a fan of some college team)

Interesting, brick.

First heard of Knox reading from pre-combine stuff, started checking him out a little then, but really started looking after the combine. More consistent, I think, than Mike Wallace of Ole Miss. Similar combine numbers in terms of size and speed, though Knox did better at the cone drills.

Knox really seems like a football player who just used the college system to get to the NFL. Big-time 4-a prep player in high school in Texas, enrolled at Tyler JuCo and won national recognition there, then went to D-II Abilene Christian. Not much into academics.

His year at ACU showed even production throughout the year, much better so than Wallace a MSU. Good hands, nice work ethic. I really like this guy, and see him as a late third round value.

Three interesting clips, for anyone who cares. First is some footage Draft Guys TV put up. Second is from his JuCo years at Tyler. Last is from high school. Pure football player, pure receiver. (the HS footage is really bad, but worth watching, 'cause you can see the basic skills he develops later -- great hands, excellent nose for the end zone, very good use of blockers, and surprisingly physical.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNFsIp26RlY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8VeffYnvFk

My second favorite still image of Knox:

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper891/stills/3913m883.jpg

My favorite still image of Knox:

http://www.funditechnologies.com/~krobarts/images/johnnyknox.jpg

[brick]

Jags select Mohammed Massaquoi, WR, Georgia

I'll add details tomorrow.

And the details.

The Jags scored a major coup in the 1st round getting Jason Smith, but the cupboard is completely bare at WR. So despite drafting one only one round ago, the Jags go to the well again to get a big WR who can go over the middle and provide a valuable red zone target.

[Raider Nation]

The Dolphins select:

Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati

[Raider Nation]

The Packers select:

Ricky Jean-Francois, DT, LSU

[massraider]

Buffalo Bills select:

Andre Brown, RB, NC State..

This is a value pick, and gives the Bills a bit of insurance against Marshawn going off the reservation, and Fred Jackson getting too big for his britches. Brown is 6', 224, and runs a 4.4. Rather than reach for an OLB, the Bills gain some quality depth at RB.

[jatfly]

49ers Select RB Cedric Peerman, Virginia

[s.dot88]

Texans take Penn State OT Gerald Cadogan

At best he becomes a starting tackle in kubiaks scheme, at worst he provides depth

[Birdwell]

Per brick's note,

-- Deleted pick, since it seems unlikely that Sleet had seen it yet.

On Sunday, the fourth round went faster than I thought it would; and when I checked this morning, thought I was on the clock. Was just trying to move things along before leaving for work, not sure if I'd be able to get back to the board before late tonight. My bad.

[brick]

Damn cheating Donks, submitting their pick out of turn.

[Sleet]

SD drafts Will Johnson, DE, Michigan (only remaining rated DE with size -- 6'5''/285 lbs -- to compete for/rotate at Igor Olshansky's former starting spot).

[Birdwell]

Denver selects, now in turn, Scott McKillop, LB, Pittsburgh.

Not the fastest guy, but size and prolific tackler, and makes big plays in big games. Needed presence in the middle, likely first year starter.

[007]

115 NY Jets: Select OG, Kraig Urbik

[Raider Nation]

115 NY Jets: Select OG, Trevor Canfield Cincinatti.

Sorry 007, the Dolphins took Canfield about 6 or 7 picks before you...

[007]

I'll change it to Urbik then, if he's still around.

[brick]

Don't know where Lang is so,

Saints select,

Glen Coffee, RB, Alabama

[hawaiianboy]

Hmm, that bastard Birdwell took the guy I was targeting... The Cowboys choose to get some depth at rush LB and take:

117) COWBOYS: David Veikune Hawaii

[Langlier]

feel free to pick for me when i'm up. I'll make em if i can but getting slammed at work.

[BigTron]

The Bears select Brandon Tate WR UNC. This guy would have went a-lot higher if he didnt get injured. This is the Michael Bush of this draft class IMO. I already drafted a WR but Cutler makes the bears passing game crazy!

[Byron2112]

#98 Bengals pick, Brandon Tate WR North Carolina



:nono:

[Birdwell]

The Bears select Brandon Tate WR UNC. This guy would have went a-lot higher if he didnt get injured. This is the Michael Bush of this draft class IMO. I already drafted a WR but Cutler makes the bears passing game crazy!

Sorry BT, Tate was taken at pick 98 in the third round.

HB, McKillop is a tackling machine, but there are some sleeper picks out there who may be as good as him. I'm saving names for the lil Al deal.

[Armyr8rfan]

Tampa Bay takes, Chris Baker DT, Hampton (via Penn Sate)

[BigTron]

Fuck. Sorry. If 007 can do it, i thought id try to sneak one by ya'll.

Let me change that too:

Bears select: Stryker Sulak DE Mizz

If he is taken. Just pick for me b/c im too stoned to find his name...

[brick]

Getting a little sloppy around here. Somehow we skipped the Saints pick at 118, but since Lang is busy at work, lets slide:

Asher Allen, CB, Georgia

in at that pick.


Tampa Bay takes, Chris Baker DT, Hampton (via Penn Sate)


Sorry Army, but

48) BRONCOS (Birdwell) - Chris Baker, NT, Hampton

he was gone awhile ago.

[Armyr8rfan]

Getting a little sloppy around here. Somehow we skipped the Saints pick at 118, but since Lang is busy at work, lets slide:

Asher Allen, CB, Georgia

in at that pick.





Sorry Army, but

48) BRONCOS (Birdwell) - Chris Baker, NT, Hampton

he was gone awhile ago.

Damn, I looked twice. Ok De'Monte Bolden, DT, Tennesee ??

[brick]

LB is not a exactly a need for the Eagles, but sometimes a player slips and you have to jump.

Dannell Ellerbe, LB, Georgia

[s.dot88]

sorry for the hold up, was thrown off by having two 4th rounders

Texans select Wisconsin DE Matt Shaughnessy

good size with pass rush skills and athleticism. try and develop him as a 3-4 OLB or a nickel rusher

[Madturk]

Where the hell is Jat? He's always the first to repost news that's a week old. Would thunk he'd at least get his pick in.

[jatfly]

Where the hell is Jat? He's always the first to repost news that's a week old. Would thunk he'd at least get his pick in.

blow me!:wavey:

[Madturk]

Knew that would get your attention:p

[jatfly]

Ravens Select Local product : Kevin Barnes, CB, Maryland

[Madturk]

Patsies select Austin Collie WR BYU

[massraider]

Atlanta Falcons select:

Bradley Fletcher, CB, Iowa.

The defensive backfield needs some youth, and some players that can play. When you miss DeAngelo mHall, you know you be in trouble. :D

[Madturk]

The Raiders further solidify the DL with the selection of Mitch King DT/DE Iowa.

Probably a little smallish to play DT full time in the NFL but I think he could transition well to base end. He is a high intensity guy who goes 100% 24/7. Would be a nice compliment to Burgess and/or Scott as he is pretty stout against the run. I am not sold on Jay Richardson outside of as a role player at this point. King will make us forget about the Tyler Brayton pick.

I was tempted to take Franz Joseph but I think King fills an even greater need.

[massraider]

Indianpolis Colts select:

DeAngelo Smith, CB, Cincinnatti

Smith doesn't have blazing speed, but he's more than fast enough for the zone scheme the Colts run, and has the added bonus of being a solid punt returner.

[brick]

It doesn't happen often, but BPA matched up with Need for the Panthers here making the selection easy:

James Casey, TE, Rice

Casey is a little bit of an unknown coming into the draft, having played for Rice, but at least 1 player evaluator that I read has him as the best all around TE in this year's draft. Pettigrew may be a better blocker, Coffman may be a better reciever, Purvis may be a bit more pollished, but when you put it all together, Casey is just a little behind each of them as #2 in each catagory, giving him a huge upside, especially this late in the 4th round.

[brick]

The Raiders further solidify the DL with the selection of Mitch King DT/DE Iowa.

Probably a little smallish to play DT full time in the NFL but I think he could transition well to base end. He is a high intensity guy who goes 100% 24/7. Would be a nice compliment to Burgess and/or Scott as he is pretty stout against the run. I am not sold on Jay Richardson outside of as a role player at this point. King will make us forget about the Tyler Brayton pick.

I was tempted to take Franz Joseph but I think King fills an even greater need.

Great pick, if King were taller I think he would be getting late 1st round hype. I would be pumped to see the Raiders select him in the 4th round.

[Jack's sore libido]

Giants take Greg Toler, CB, St. Pauls

Hell, I never heard of him until very recently, but the Giants ain't afraid to take a great athlete from a small school.

[Jack's sore libido]

For Lang ...

Titans take Cornelius Ingram, TE, Florida

[s.dot88]

Arizona takes Rice WR Jarred Dillard

i cant beleive nobody's taken him yet

[Sleet]

Pittsburgh selects OG, Andy Levitre, Oregon State.

[Sleet]

San Diego selects (1) Terrance Taylor, NT, Michigan; and (2) OT, Joel Bell, Furman.

Who?

Exactly.

[brick]

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that Lang is still busy and make the selection for the Titans:

Zack Follett, LB, Cal

You all know who he is, I can't believe he is still here (or that its not butter)

[Rupert]

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that Lang is still busy and make the selection for the Titans:

Zack Follett, LB, Cal

You all know who he is, I can't believe he is still here (or that its not butter)

He isn't check pick 105.

[brick]

He isn't check pick 105.

Who let you in here,

fine, I'll stick with LB and select:

Kaluka Maiava, LB, USC

[massraider]

Indianapolis Colts select:

Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M

Bit of a curveball here, but the Colts like his talent, and he will definitley make this team. Manning is no spring chicken, either.

[Rupert]

Who let you in here,

fine, I'll stick with LB and select:

Kaluka Maiava, LB, USC

LOL! I decided to see what you guys were up to.

[Birdwell]

Indianapolis Colts select:

Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M

Bit of a curveball here, but the Colts like his talent, and he will definitley make this team. Manning is no spring chicken, either.

Great pick, bror, outside the box and all, but makes a lot of sense.