Raiders FA comings and goings...(Please Read) [Archive]

Rupert

03-16-2006, 08:55 AM

Waitaminute! We have a plan. Acquire anyone and everyone that's been out of football for a little while but still thinks they've got it. :D

Seriously though. Going into last season, how many of us thought we had a pretty complete team? How many of us were surprised how poorly we did? Except for the half-empty (or is that 3/4ths) crowd, most of us thought we'd be decent. :o

It looks like Al Davis had the same thoughts. The idea is we've got most of the pieces, we'll add most of what we need through the draft (a couple starters and some depth) and pick up a bunch of low-priced veterans to tide us over until the draftees come through (next season). :confused: Look at last year's kids. One will be a better starter at corner, the other a better starter at backer, a third will be a solid backup corner and maybe nickel starter. Not bad to have 2 guys starting and 1 guy contributing in year two from a draft. If we can get 2 starters this year and have 1 coming off the bench we'll be pretty close to not needing too many replacements when the old guys retire next year.

Ladies and gentlemen, that's a tried and true Raiders approach. It's not always successful, and much less so in recent years, but give it a chance, we've done that much before. :(

Angel

03-16-2006, 10:06 AM

Well as fans of whatever team, we really don't get to choose what we want unfortunately. I'm not real thrilled with my team right now either!

CrossBones

03-16-2006, 10:28 AM

McCown signed with Detroit -- a two year deal!

Next.

Raiders_Rock

03-16-2006, 12:20 PM

I didn't really want McCown anyway...

I just hope we do SOMETHING! Our team needs a lot of improvement

CrossBones

03-16-2006, 12:27 PM

I didn't really want McCown anyway...

I just hope we do SOMETHING! Our team needs a lot of improvement.Amen to that.

And this sitting on our hands while other teams get stronger isn't setting well with the Raider Nation. Is this how you sell more ticklets? Where's the OFMA when you need them. :rolleyes:

Rupert

03-16-2006, 02:49 PM

Bah! I still think we got a LOT stronger when we kicked Turner to the curb and brought Art in to put this ship in the right direction.

But beyond that, we definitely need a couple defenders.

We could get away with the DE's we have, and might be okay if Hawthorne is worth a rotational spot at DT, so DL is not in a great need. Could we, should we upgrade? Yeah, but we could probably get away with standing pat for one season.

Adding Crockett is really nice for depth at backer, but it does nothing for the starters. Getting Williams back will help, but we shouldn't count on him as a 16-game starter since we have no proof that he can be, even though he's good when he's out there. Ryan Riddel? Who knows what his role can/will be? And where's the quality depth? Johnson is a decent emergency guy mid-game, but I wouldn't want to have to rely on him for 4 or 5 games, let alone more.

Corner is probably set if we bring Reynaldo Hill back.

Safety is a question mark. Only Schweigert is assured a spot and will be solid, hopefully bringing more to the table this season. But no strong safety on the roster and no-one to back up at free safety other than Keyon Nash, who's so ready to play the team keeps bringing in other guys ahead of him on the depth chart. Sure we can bring Cooper back and have a solid guy off the bench and for spot start duties (like last season), but that spot needs a starter that's an upgrade. Fortunately (and unfortunately really), that's not going to be too hard to accomplish.

On offense, we need a change of pace back, but not desperately, and an OG to push for a starting spot if not outright start. A pass-catching TE might be nice, and a true blocking FB would be very welcomed. QB is a critical need on offense, but we could probably get away with a place-holder while the offense gets used to playing mean and McCown could have been that. However, Walter can be that as long as he's not running for his life back there. We have Tui under contract so we only need 1 QB. Unfortunately, he will need to be capable of starting.

CrossBones

03-16-2006, 05:32 PM

Per John Clayton:

The Dolphins have signed CB Renaldo Hill to a 3-yr., $6 million deal with a $2 million signing bonus.

:( :( :(

Rupert

03-16-2006, 06:30 PM

Well, that means we're a little thinner at CB. Maybe we'll draft one (ducks).

Raiders_Rock

03-16-2006, 11:18 PM

I'm gonna miss Hill - he was a solid DB, could play both safety and CB

When are we actually gonna do something?!

Angry Pope

03-17-2006, 12:10 AM

We have the salary cap room and also other players that can restructure to provide even more room so I am confused as well as to what the inactivity is all about.

Angry Pope

03-17-2006, 12:33 AM

Per John Clayton.....

Raiders go fishing: The Raiders are starting to look at a couple of interesting street free agents. They are bringing in former Seahawks linebacker Anthony Simmons, who missed last season because of serious wrist problems. Simmons was a former first-round choice and considered one of the fastest linebackers in the game. They are bringing in former Broncos cornerback Lenny Walls on Monday. Walls was released by the Broncos last season. At 6-foot-4, he's one of the tallest cornerbacks in the game.

Angry Pope

03-17-2006, 12:57 AM

Here is info on the other TE we visited with....

Jets TE Chris Baker, who has visited Miami, Carolina and Oakland, is said to have narrowed his choices to the Jets and Miami

Angry Pope

03-17-2006, 02:10 AM

I didn't see this one posted...hope you don't mind me posting this here, Crow...a visit by Abraham....

Comings and goings

The Seahawks said goodbye to New York Jets defensive end John Abraham on Wednesday afternoon. They had Abraham in for a free-agent visit along with his two agents, Tony Agnone and Rich Rosa.

Talks went well, but Abraham figures to continue his tour of suitors, with the Oakland Raiders and Atlanta Falcons next up for the Pro Bowl sack specialist.
Meanwhile, two players with local roots are home for visits with the Seahawks.

Safety Lawyer Milloy, a former University of Washington player from Tacoma, was at team headquarters Wednesday. Playing in his hometown for a Super Bowl contender is important to Milloy, his agent said, even though Milloy has drawn interest from other teams.

Milloy, 32, has been to four Pro Bowls in 10 seasons. He had 106 tackles for the Buffalo Bills last season.

Wide receiver Nate Burleson, a restricted free agent from the Minnesota Vikings, will be in Kirkland today. Signing the O'Dea High School grad would cost the Seahawks a third-round pick, which might not be too high a price since Seattle has one of the last picks in that round of this year's draft.

Burleson's best pro season was his second, in 2004, when he caught 68 passes for 1,006 yards and nine touchdowns.

Seattle also expects to have linebacker Julian Peterson from the San Francisco 49ers in for a visit today. Peterson, 27, is regarded as an impact defender with the ability to line up as a linebacker, safety or rush end.

The six-year pro, who is a two-time Pro Bowl player, could be a good fit with the Seahawks' young and versatile defense. Seattle is his first free-agent visit. He also plans to visit the Miami Dolphins.

Finally, Seattle tight end Ryan Hannam was in Miami for a free-agent visit Wednesday, then will meet with the Dallas Cowboys on Friday.

CrossBones

03-17-2006, 08:36 AM

We have the salary cap room and also other players that can restructure to provide even more room so I am confused as well as to what the inactivity is all about.You and me and the rest of the Raider Nation are confused as hell.

What's Al planning? Is he waiting to make a big splash by signing Tank Williams, John Abraham, and Julian Peterson all this weekend? :D

So far we're just standing pat swith a 4-12 team. We have no QB and haven't done anyting but try and sign one guy who couldn't pass his physical. :eek: The Art Shell hiore was great. The Tom Walsh hiring is puzzling. A new coaching staff alone won't fix what's wrong with this team. We need players.

Somebody call the front desk and put in a wake up call for Al Davis.

Plunkett16

03-17-2006, 09:06 AM

Raiders | Team could visit with Abraham
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:13:16 -0800

Dave Hutchinson, of the Star-Ledger, reports agent Tony Agnone said New York Jets franchise free agent DE John Abraham may visit the Oakland Raiders this weekend.

trade our 2nd for him hell yes!

Raiders | Team will visit with L. Walls
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:00:22 -0800

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports the Oakland Raiders will be visiting with street free agent LB CB Lenny Walls (Raiders) Monday, March 20. The team claimed him off waivers late in the 2005 season, but he failed his physical.

for depth

Raiders | Team will visit with A. Simmons
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:58:53 -0800

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports the Oakland Raiders will be visiting with street free agent LB Anthony Simmons (Seahawks). He missed last season because of serious wrist problems

Raiders_Rock

03-17-2006, 10:01 AM

Raiders | Cooper to visit
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:51:44 -0800

Free agent S Deke Cooper (Jaguars) will visit with the Oakland Raiders Friday, March 17.

Raiders_Rock

03-17-2006, 10:01 AM

so are we planning to look at any DECENT free agents?!

Angel

03-17-2006, 11:20 AM

so are we planning to look at any DECENT free agents?!
I have the same question about my team!! :(

CrossBones

03-17-2006, 11:27 AM

so are we planning to look at any DECENT free agents?!Apparently not. :mad:

Raiders_Rock

03-17-2006, 12:32 PM

Lawyer Milloy just signed with the Falcons...3 years, $6 million

Don't tell me we couldn't have offered him the same, if not more :mad:

CrossBones

03-17-2006, 01:16 PM

Lawyer Milloy just signed with the Falcons...3 years, $6 million

Don't tell me we couldn't have offered him the same, if not more :mad:Pretty disturbing, huh? :o

Angry Pope

03-17-2006, 02:32 PM

Angry Pope

03-17-2006, 02:38 PM

Here is some information on Cooper...

Deke
Cooper

Safety

6-2

210

Notre Dame

PRO:Talented and versatile young safety who is looking to compete for a starting job in the defensive secondary and a role on special teams … Started 10 games at free safety in 2003 and played in every game in 2004 … Excels on special teams … Former NFL Europe star … Was named NFLE Defensive Player of the Year in the spring of 2002 after leading the league in interceptions for the second consecutive year with five, and collecting 51 tackles and eight passes defensed … Has also spent time in Carolina, Cleveland and Arizona … .

2004: Played in every game for the first time in career … Ranked 11th on squad with 35 tackles (23 solo) and added one interception, one sack and one fumble recovery … Finished third on the team with 12 special teams tackles … Tallied five tackles (three solo) in Sept. 19 win over Denver … Recorded only interception of the season on Oct. 17 in home win against Kansas City … Had five unassisted tackles against Houston on Dec. 26 … Finished year with first sack of career among season-high seven tackles (three solo) in Jan. 2 win at Oakland … .

2003: Signed on Sept. 16 to bolster special teams units but earned a starting job at free safety after Rashean Mathis was moved to cornerback … Started 10 games and ranked seventh on the team with 74 tackles … Added one interception and one fumble recovery … Tied for third on the team with 11 special teams tackles … Saw first action on defense as a Jaguar on Oct. 12 vs. Miami… Made first NFL start at free safety on Oct. 26 vs. Tennessee after secondary shuffle caused by injury to Jason Craft. Led team with 13 tackles (11 solo) … Made first career interception (off Peyton Manning) with 11 seconds remaining to seal victory vs. Indianapolis Nov. 9 … .

2002: Attended training camp with Carolina before being waived on Sept. 1 and signed to the practice squad on Sept. 3 ... Signed to the active roster by Carolina on Sept. 10 and played in 10 games, notching four special teams tackles and one tackle on defense ... Allocated to NFL Europe by Carolina in the spring ... Named NFLE Defensive Player of the Year after leading the league in interceptions for the second consecutive season with five ... .

2001: Signed as a free agent by Arizona on Jan. 11, attended training camp with the Cardinals before being waived on Sept. 2 ... Signed to the Cleveland Browns practice squad on Sept. 20, but was released on Oct. 9 ... Allocated to NFL Europe by Arizona in the spring ... Started all 10 games and earned first team All-NFL Europe honors after leading the league with six interceptions and producing 55 tackles, one forced fumble, 14 passes defensed and 10 special teams stops ... .

2000: Originally signed by Arizona as an undrafted rookie free agent on April 28 ... Went to training camp with the Cardinals prior to being waived Aug. 22.

Played in 45 games with 25 starts and totaled 203 tackles, six interceptions, four fumble recoveries, seven forced fumbles and five passes defensed, returning one fumble for a touchdown ... As a senior in 1999 started all 12 games at free safety and collected 70 tackles, two interceptions, two fumble recoveries, three forced fumbles and two passes defensed ... Made five starts as a junior and registered 78 tackles, one interception, two fumble recoveries and three forced fumbles ... Contributed as a reserve free safety in all 13 contests with two starts as a sophomore in 1997, totalling 26 tackles ... As a true freshman in 1996, switched from wide receiver to safety early in the season and played in 10 games with six starts ... Ranked second on the team with three interceptions and also contributed 29 tackles, one fumble recovery and two passes defensed ... Also caught one pass for nine yards as a receiver ... Graduated with a degree in sociology and computer applications.

Single … Lives in Jacksonville … Attended Evansville (Ind.) North High where he was a finalist for the 1995 “Mr. Football” award as a senior after switching from wide receiver to running back ... Gained 925 yards rushing and eight touchdowns on 88 carries and 353 yards receiving and three touchdowns on 16 receptions ... Also played safety in addition to lettering in track ... Full name: John Delvicchio Cooper.

CrossBones

03-17-2006, 03:22 PM

Here is another one.....

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the New Orleans Saints have signed free agent LB Anthony Simmons (Seahawks) a one-year, $1.5 million contract. Simmons did not play in 2005 as he was recovering from a broken wrist.Jeeez...what are the Raiders doing? We didn't even get a chance to talk to this guy? Something is very wrong in Raiderland. :o

Raiders_Rock

03-17-2006, 03:37 PM

Raiders have re-signed Derrick Gibson

http://www.raiders.com/team/transactions.jsp

I don't know what to say

CrossBones

03-17-2006, 04:08 PM

I don;'t know what to say either.

That's our big FA splash so far this off season? Pitiful.

Better get those golf clubs warmed up. My knee feels better and I'm not gonna watch this crap on TV every Sunday when I could be playing golf. (I reserve the right to change my mind, of course.)

Plunkett16

03-17-2006, 05:05 PM

I am gonna quote phil r favorite saying

we screwed:eek:

Angry Pope

03-17-2006, 05:36 PM

Fonoti signed.....

Mar 17, 2006 -

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ first free agent signing from outside their own team in 2006 is a big one. A really big one.

Massive guard Toniu Fonoti, an unrestricted free agent who split the 2005 season between San Diego and Minnesota, is the newest Buccaneer. He visited with Buccaneers brass on Friday and had a deal done before the day was over. One of the largest players at the league at well over 350 pounds, Fonoti was a Sports Illustrated first-team all-pro selection in 2004.

As is team policy, details of Fonoti’s contract were not released.

The Buccaneers are always on the lookout for offensive line help, and Fonoti could provide a lot of that, particularly as a powerful run-blocker. Before injuries derailed his 2005 season – and, separately, led to his midseason trade to the Vikings – Fonoti was one of the league’s best guards in 2004, when he helped produce the league’s sixth-ranked rushing attack in San Diego. The Chargers also allowed the fourth-lowest sack total in the NFL in 2004, with 21, but the line’s most important job was opening holes for Pro Bowl running back LaDainian Tomlinson.

Officially listed at 6-4 and 350 pounds, Fonoti entered the league as a second-round draft choice in 2002, taking 39th overall. He stepped immediately into a starting role at right guard and opened 14 games, helping Tomlinson gain 1,683 rushing yards. Fonoti lost the following season to a foot injury suffered in the preseason, however, spending the whole year on injured reserve.

He came back from that bad break extremely well, starting all 16 games at left guard in 2004 and helping the Chargers post a 12-4 record. He started the first two games of 2005, too, but was then sidelined by a hand injury.

Meanwhile, the Vikings were hit by a rash of injuries to their interior linemen, leading them to pursue a recovered Fonoti in trade. The Chargers and Vikings pulled off a swap just before the trade deadline and, after giving Fonoti four weeks to learn the system, the Vikings installed him at left guard against Green Bay on November 21. Unfortunately, though Minnesota’s revamped line provided strong run-blocking in that game, Fonoti suffered a groin injury and didn’t play the rest of the year.

Overall, Fonoti has played in 34 games and started 33, getting extensive playing time at both guard spots. He could battle for one or both spots with the Buccaneers this summer. The team started rookie Dan Buenning at left guard and third-year man Sean Mahan at right guard in every game last season and improved its rushing attack from 29th in the league in 2004 to 14th last year. At the moment, Mahan is a restricted free agent.

Fonoti’s signing comes one week into the league’s free agency period, which was delayed eight days from its originally-planned starting date of March 3 due to protracted CBA negotiations. The Bucs were busy on the first day of free agency, re-signing three of their own players who had become unrestricted free agents on March 11: fullback Mike Alstott, kicker Matt Bryant and defensive tackle Chris Hovan. Fonoti’s signing, however, is the Bucs’ first move since that day and the first one that involves a player from another team.

Despite his four seasons in the league, Fonoti is still only 24 years old. He was born in American Samoa and played high school football in both California and Hawaii. At Nebraska, he was a consensus first-team All-America selection at Nebraska.

Plunkett16

03-17-2006, 05:38 PM

so they sign him and he pass the physical but he couldnt pass ours

Rupert

03-17-2006, 06:31 PM

Anthony Simmons confirms my belief that if they played last season, we're not bringing them in.

Angry Pope

03-17-2006, 06:47 PM

We signed Jarod Cooper.....

In other news, the Raiders re-signed safety Jarrod Cooper to a three-year contract that could net Cooper as much as $4.5 million. He joined the Raiders midway through the 2004 season and has developed into a core special teams player, as well as a key defensive backup.

CrossBones

03-17-2006, 07:12 PM

We signed Jarod Cooper.....Well that's good but not exactly earth shaking.

Now you tell me how does Fonoti fail his physical and then get signed in one day by the Bucs? I mean I really don't understand this at all. And I'm like PISSED. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Angry Pope

03-18-2006, 12:19 AM

Here is some news on Fonoti....

Let's get physical: It's interesting to see how different teams treat physicals. The Raiders failed Toniu Fonoti after he agreed to a one-year, $1 million deal earlier this week. The physical problem was that he weighed close to 400 pounds. He flew to Tampa Bay and the Bucs didn't have as much of a problem. His one-year deal is less than what he would have received with the Raiders, but the Bucs didn't take long to pass him on the physical.

Raiders_Rock

03-18-2006, 05:30 AM

Aaron Brooks is coming in for a visit....

http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/ci_3615828

Angel

03-18-2006, 09:09 AM

Apparently not. :mad:
Don't feel like the lone ranger Bones!! :(

Plunkett16

03-18-2006, 12:31 PM

Well that's good but not exactly earth shaking.

Now you tell me how does Fonoti fail his physical and then get signed in one day by the Bucs? I mean I really don't understand this at all. And I'm like PISSED. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I know phil

unless we have much higher standard physical than the bucs i don't see why he didn't pass ours unless the bucs didn't give him a physical.

now if it has to do with weight issue how much did teddy washington weigh when he signed with us?

Angry Pope

03-18-2006, 12:59 PM

More on Fonoti....

Free-agent guard Toniu Fonoti, who played in San Diego from 2002-2004 and for Minnesota last season before going on injured reserve with a groin injury, agreed to terms to join the Raiders but never signed a contract after the club announced he had failed his physical.

An NFL source said Fonoti was too heavy for the liking of new coach Art Shell, who wanted him under 335 pounds. Fonoti was cut by San Diego after his weight ballooned to the 400-pound range.

Angry Pope

03-18-2006, 01:07 PM

Some info on Renaldo....

Renaldo Hill, whose play as a starting nickel back made him one of Oakland's best defenders last season, was the club's first significant loss in free agency. Hill signed a three-year deal with Miami with a reported $2 million in bonus.

Hill professed a desire to return to the Raiders following the season, and team officials said they wanted Hill to return. However, Hill, recruited at Michigan State by Nick Saban, has an admiration for the Miami coach.

Oakland used a nickel as its primary defense in 2005, in part because of injuries, and its not clear whether Hill - who has neither the speed of a pure cover corner nor the size (5-11, 190 pounds) of a strong safety - would have had as prominent a role in 2006.

Raiders_Rock

03-18-2006, 04:33 PM

not that it matters, but the Raiders are the only team that hasn't made a move in free agency. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Rupert

03-18-2006, 06:07 PM

Sure we did, we picked up what's his nuts at linebacker. You know, the guy who hasn't played in a year. :rolleyes:

As far as Fonoti signing with Tampa after he failed a physical here: I've heard it said many times that anyone can fail an NFL physical and anyone can pass. It all depends upon the team. Does anyone think Joe Namath would have ever passed an honest physical with his knees? The simple answer is no, but since he could still play the position, there was no reason to fail him. All the doctor does is report his findings, the team decides whether that's pass or fail. Nice how that works out isn't it?

CrossBones

03-18-2006, 06:32 PM

Thatnks Agnry Pope. Looks like the Raiders have much stricter weight requirements than some other teams (BUCS). DAMN. I think he would have been just what the doctor ordered for our OL...a big, nasty Samoan. Oh well.

The Raiders must have something up their sleeves. They're hoarding that money for something. Think Al has a hard on for one of the QB's in the draft? (And don't say Vince Young...noooooooooooooooooo.)

Angry Pope

03-18-2006, 06:38 PM

I am with you CB, drafting Young would be a real downer.

Raiders_Rock

03-18-2006, 07:27 PM

if we draft Vince Young I'll slice off my nipples

CrossBones

03-18-2006, 07:32 PM

if we draft Vince Young I'll slice off my nipplesBwahahahahahaha. That was funny. I wouldn't blame you!

Rupert

03-19-2006, 02:35 PM

if we draft Vince Young I'll slice off my nipples
Well, that will definitely be a conversation piece in some circles.

Angry Pope

03-19-2006, 06:46 PM

On Cooper from Corkran....

The Raiders re-signed S Jarrod Cooper in a move that went largely unnoticed but shouldn't be overlooked. For one, the Raiders signed Cooper the day after free agent safety Renaldo Hill bolted to the Dolphins. Secondly, special teams standouts such as Cooper are very difficult to find, let alone replace. In short time, Cooper has gone from a curiosity signing into a core player through hard work and learning from youthful mistakes he made when he was with the Panthers. He flashed at coaches so often in practices and games that they felt compelled to play him more on defense. Now, Cooper stands a fair shot at earning the starting spot at strong safety created by the departures of Hill and Derrick Gibson. Cooper succeeds by capitalizing on his great speed, impressive instincts and fearlessness in throwing around his body. Just the same, losing Hill is a big blow for the Raiders. He was a versatile player who played hurt and about as well as anyone this side of DE Derrick Burgess last season. The Raiders tried to secure Hill to a multi-year deal, but they got edged out by a Dolphins team coached by the man, Nick Saban, who recruited Hill out of high school to Michigan State. . . .

CrossBones

03-19-2006, 07:02 PM

Interesting.

I think Rupert is faily high on Cooper. I could be mistaken.

Angry Pope

03-19-2006, 08:51 PM

Not a meeting, but an interest....

Jason Cole, of the Miami Herald, reports the Oakland Raiders are showing an interest in free agent QB Tommy Maddox (Steelers), according to agent Vann McElroy.

Angry Pope

03-19-2006, 08:59 PM

Here is more on Maddox...

MADDOX TO VISIT

The Dolphins will bring in former Pittsburgh Steelers backup quarterback Tommy Maddox for a visit Tuesday as they try to find someone to fill the same role after losing Gus Frerotte to the St. Louis Rams.

Agent Vann McElroy said Maddox has received interest from the Oakland Raiders and Cincinnati Bengals, but the Dolphins' situation might be the most intriguing because of Maddox's relationship with new offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey.

Mularkey had the same job for three seasons in Pittsburgh when Maddox helped lead the Steelers to the playoffs in 2002. Maddox lost the starting job in 2004 to first-round draft pick Ben Roethlisberger.

Mularkey talked to Maddox before the visit was confirmed, and the Dolphins have been talking with McElroy since last week, when they acquired starter Daunte Culpepper from the Minnesota Vikings and released Frerotte in a salary-cap move.

The Dolphins considered re-signing Frerotte as their backup, but he joined the Rams on Thursday night, receiving a three-year, $6 million contract.
Maddox spent five years out of the NFL before joining the Steelers in 2001.
In 2002, he took over the starting job from Kordell Stewart and led the Steelers to the second round of the playoffs, completing 62.1 percent of his passes for 2,836 yards, 20 touchdowns and 16 interceptions.

In 2003, he completed 57.4 percent of his passes for 3,414 yards, 18 touchdowns and 17 interceptions.

RaiderIVlife

03-19-2006, 11:35 PM

Geez, just when I thought I'd seen the last enough Derrick Gibson, we re-sign him. I guess that is our high point thus far !!!!!

The Raiders clearly intend to build this team through the draft. Fine with me. I believe most of these teams have overpayed for many of these players anyway.

I think we'll be much more active during training camp, by sprinkling in veterans late in the game. Much like William Thomas and Tyronne Wheatley a few years back.

Our entire draft hinges on Andrew Walter IMHO.

If the Raiders believe that Walter is the 'man', then we can then draft either Mario Williams or Ngata. I would be happy with either, though I'd love to see Williams and Burgess on the edges.

If the Raiders aren't sold on Walter then how do we not ensure ourselves a shot at one of the top 3? I know Al never drafts a QB this high, but this really might be the year IMO....

Rupert

03-19-2006, 11:53 PM

Boones: I like Cooper, but he has growing to do as a player. He's got athleticism and desire, and the vast majority of great players have those, now if only he'd dial into the football instinct thing, he'd have what's needed to be a great player. The one thing he's shown that Gibson never has is improvement, so I hold onto hope. Beyond that, he's full of the dreaded P word.

Rupert

03-19-2006, 11:55 PM

RIVL: You know. I was thinking the same thing, and then I thought of recent drafts (not last year - which was good) when we thought the same thing, and we almost went bald scratching our collective head afterward.

It would be the crowning moment of what has been a lackluster off-season so far.

Angel

03-20-2006, 12:25 AM

not that it matters, but the Raiders are the only team that hasn't made a move in free agency. :mad: :mad: :mad:
All the chiefs have done is re-sign the most retarded qb ever (huard) & sign another RB....like that was a pressing need, huh? :rolleyes:

Angry Pope

03-20-2006, 03:20 PM

We signed Tyrone Poole....

Ex-Pats CB Poole signs two-year deal with Raiders

By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

Veteran cornerback Tyrone Poole, who was released by the New England Patriots last week after two injury-marred seasons, has signed a two-year contract with the Oakland Raiders, ESPN.com has learned.

Financial details were not yet available, but league sources said that the contract is for considerably more than the NFL minimum.

Following his release, which saved the Patriots about $2 million in 2006 cap space, Poole met last Friday morning with Atlanta Falcons officials and then flew to Oakland to visit with Raiders coaches. He had been scheduled to travel to Denver on Monday before signing with the Raiders.

Poole, 34, started for New England in Super Bowl XXXVIII and had a standout campaign in 2003, but he appeared in just six games the last two years and he finished the 2004 and 2005 seasons on injured reserve. The 10-year veteran played in just one game in 2005, tried to come back from an ankle injury but then went on injured reserve in late October.

In '03, Poole was one of only four New England defensive players to start in all 16 regular-season games and the club's three playoff victories. He had 66 tackles and six interceptions that year and demonstrated the kind of "press" coverage skills that marked his early career. But the momentum Poole built that season, toward becoming a very good corner again, was then negated by two years of injuries.

If healthy, Poole should be able to contribute as a nickel cornerback, because he remains a very hard worker and is a defender with natural cover instincts. He also provides experience and leadership to a very young Oakland cornerback corps, one that includes three-year veteran Nnamdi Asomigha and second-year pros Fabian Washington and Stanford Routt.

One of the Carolina Panthers' three first-round choices in their inaugural 1995 draft, Poole was a top-flight corner from the outset of his career, an undersized but physical cover player. After four years in Carolina, the former Fort Valley (Ga.) State standout had stints in Indianapolis (1998-2000), Denver (2002) and New England (2003-05). He sat out the 2001 season for family reasons.

In 130 games, including 109 starts, Poole has 497 tackles, 17 interceptions and 133 passes defensed.

Angry Pope

03-20-2006, 03:21 PM

Supposedly we have also signed Duane Starks and he will play safety. Take it for what it is worth because it has not been announced yet.

Angry Pope

03-20-2006, 03:48 PM

Supposedly, Henri Crockett has failed his physical and his contract is voided. Take it for what it is worth.

Angry Pope

03-20-2006, 04:14 PM

It appears Gibson's contract is one year at $585,000. I don't know if there is bonus involved but since it is one year, probably not or very minimal.

CrossBones

03-20-2006, 04:37 PM

They had to so something to make up for losing Hill.

Starks? Hmmmm...

Rupert

03-20-2006, 05:08 PM

Let's see:

Crockett out of shape and voided.
Hill lost to Miami, damnit.
Poole signed. Midget 5-8 DB.
Starks signed (soon?). Hill replacement at 5-10 who was injured last year.

It would have been better to get Hill back, but either of these guys might have a little left in the tank.

The Oakland Raiders, where old DB's go to die. At least that's how it's been lately, with all respect given the actually departed, Eric Turner.

I'm glad we're not paying Gibson anything substantial. He knows he's gotta play for his pay these days.

TommyGirl

03-20-2006, 05:11 PM

C'mon now, Rupert. Darrell Green was a 5'8" corner.

Edit: Then again, so was Buchanon. ;)

Angry Pope

03-20-2006, 05:30 PM

We are interested in Griese...

Griese's return appears unlikely
Former starter will visit Bengals, Bears; Bucs add ex-Saint Aaron Brooks to backup QB list.

By RICK STROUD, Times Staff Writer
Published March 17, 2006

TAMPA - The last time Brian Griese played in an NFL game, he tore two knee ligaments but refused to leave the field on a cart.

Now it appears Griese is walking away from the Bucs for good.

The veteran quarterback, who led Tampa Bay to a 5-1 start last year before a season-ending knee injury, may have ended his career here after just two seasons.

The Bucs appear to be moving on as well.

Saints free-agent quarterback Aaron Brooks visited Thursday, one day after the Bucs received permission from the Redskins to speak with Patrick Ramsey.

Griese, meanwhile, is scheduled to visit the Bengals today. On Saturday, when he turns 31, Griese will meet with the Bears. The Ravens, Vikings and Raiders also are interested.

Apparently, the Bucs made it clear to Griese they were turning over the starting job to Chris Simms, who signed a one-year, $2-million offer sheet. And it's believed the offer to Griese does not exceed what Simms will earn next season.

"It doesn't seem to be going in the right direction," Griese's agent, Ralph Cindrich, said Thursday. "We view him and other teams view him as more than a backup quarterback. This is a situation where (the Bengals are) a good team with a hell of an offense, and it's time to get him out of (Tampa Bay)."

Griese was expected to make a rapid return to the Bucs after being released in a salary cap maneuver on the eve of the free-agent signing period last week.

But he finalized plans to visit other teams just one day after the Bucs turned their attention to Ramsey, the 26-year-old who, according to his agent, could visit Tampa Bay over the weekend.

The Redskins are seeking a fourth-round pick and recently turned down the Jets' offer of a seventh-rounder.

Apparently, based on the jobs he is considering, the rift between Griese and the Bucs is fairly deep.

Rather than return as the No. 2, Griese is willing to consider keeping the seat warm for Bengals starter Carson Palmer, who is rehabbing from reconstructive knee surgery and is shooting for a mid October return.

The Bears are seeking an experienced backup for Rex Grossman, who has missed 27 games the past two seasons with a torn ACL and a broken ankle.

Brooks, who turns 30 next week, was released Wednesday after six seasons in New Orleans. His career has been marked by inconsistency but he managed to put himself in the Saints' record books. He broke Archie Manning's record for career touchdown passes with 120 and is second to Manning with 19,156 passing yards. He led the franchise to its only playoff win as a rookie.

The Bucs also have turned their attention to other positions. Lions receiver Kevin Johnson and Chiefs receiver Marc Boerigter are scheduled to visit today.

Johnson, 29, played in six games last season and finished with 17 receptions for 133 yards and no touchdowns. Boerigter, 27, was limited to 10 games the past two seasons because of an assortment of injuries.

Denver linebacker Patrick Chukwurah is scheduled to visit next week.

The Bucs made another proposal Thursday to Patriots free-agent tackle Tom Ashworth, but no agreement has been reached. Ashworth also is negotiating with the Dolphins and Jets.

COACHING STAFF ANNOUNCED: Running backs coach Art Valero was promoted to assistant head coach and special-teams coach Richard Bisaccia was given the title of special-teams coordinator. Aaron Kromer, who joined the staff last year as a senior assistant, is now the senior assistant/offensive line.

The official staff lineup announced Thursday: Jon Gruden, coach; Monte Kiffin, defensive coordinator; Bill Muir, offensive coordinator/offensive line; Richard Bisaccia, special-teams coordinator; Art Valero, assistant head coach/running backs; Joe Barry, linebackers; Tim Berbenich, offensive quality control; Casey Bradley, defensive quality control; Greg Burns, defensive backs; Jethro Franklin, defensive line; Jay Gruden, offensive assistant; Paul Hackett, quarterbacks; Nathaniel Hackett, offensive quality control; Paul Kelly, assistant to the head coach/football operations; Aaron Kromer, senior assistant/offensive line; Jimmy Lake, assistant defensive backs; Richard Mann, receivers; Ron Middleton, tight ends/assistant special teams; Mike Morris, head strength and conditioning; Kurt Shultz, assistant strength and conditioning.

CrossBones

03-20-2006, 05:35 PM

I think I am going to lose my mind!

I'm tired of FA.

Bring on the draft.

I know we'll draft Vince Young and then I can put myself in full golf mode for the rest of the year. Wait, golf in Seattle in December...oh shit -- I'm screwed.

Rupert

03-20-2006, 05:43 PM

I know TG. It's just the smaller you are, the more you have to be on your game. So we're picking up an older guy coming off injuries. He's not as likely to be on his game is he? That's my point.

Rupert

03-20-2006, 05:45 PM

Oh yeah, Griese's going to be a starter in Cincy? Pshhhhh. He smoke two joints in the morning, he smoke two joints at night, he smoke two joints in the afternoon, it make him feel alright, smooooooooke two joints.

Angry Pope

03-20-2006, 06:10 PM

Another visitor....a linebacker....

Raiders now looking at Aaron Brooks

By Steve Corkran
CONTRA COSTA TIMES

The Raiders' pursuit of former Minnesota Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper barely got off the ground before he got traded to the Miami Dolphins. Former Arizona Cardinals quarterback Josh McCown spurned a two-year contract offer from the Raiders for a job with the Detroit Lions.

Now, the spotlight has moved toward former New Orleans Saints quarterback Aaron Brooks as the Raiders continue their search for a replacement for deposed veteran Kerry Collins.

Brooks, who turns 30 on Friday, was released by the Saints soon after they signed free agent Drew Brees. He met with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last Friday. He is expected to visit the Raiders in the coming days, a person in the front office said Monday.

That meeting could occur as soon as today, though nothing had been finalized as of Monday night.

Brooks spent the past six seasons with the Saints. He played in 13 games last season before then-coach Jim Haslett benched him in favor of Todd Bouman. He completed 55.7 percent of his passes for 2,882 yards, with 13 touchdowns and 17 interceptions.

By comparison, Collins completed 53.5 percent of his passes for 3,759 yards, with 20 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. Collins got sacked 39 times, compared with Brooks' 33.

In other news, the Raiders re-signed strong safety Derrick Gibson and backup offensive lineman Corey Hulsey, as well as veteran cornerback Tyrone Poole.
The Raiders released Gibson after last season because of a contract that called for Gibson to make $10 million in base salary next season. He missed most of last season after he sustained a wrist injury. He was replaced by Renaldo Hill. Gibson is expected to compete for the starting spot with Jarrod Cooper.

Hulsey, 28, spent parts of the 2003 and '04 seasons with the Raiders before securing a roster spot in training camp last season. He is projected as a backup who has the potential to earn a starting spot at left or right guard.
Poole, 34, last played for the New England Patriots. He appeared in one game last season and five in 2004. He likely will be tried out as an extra defensive back.

Also, the Raiders had in tight end Chris Baker and linebacker James Allen for visits in recent days. Neither was offered a contract.
Finally, Raiderette auditions are scheduled for April 2 at the Oakland Airport Hilton. Go to www.raiders.com for more info.

Rupert

03-20-2006, 06:30 PM

Scouting Report on Allen:

Positives: Has the frame to add more bulk with no loss in quickness…Very instinctive player with good vision and ball anticipation ability…Quickly locates the ball and is very aggressive vs. the inside run…Has a strong upper body, utilizing that power to take on and shed to make the play…Uses his hands well to take on and shed blocks…Knows how to reroute and disengage from the tight end in the short area.

Negatives: Gets turned around some when redirecting inside as he tends to lose leverage by leaning into blocks with his wrong shoulder…Takes bad angles working inside the box, appearing more comfortable chasing down to make the tackle…Has had back problems in the past…Has very thin ankles and slender calves.

By the Numbers
Ht: 6'3"
Wt: 240
40-time: 4.64
20-yard dash: 2.63
10-yard dash: 1.67
Three-cone drill: 7.59
Vertical jump: 38"
Broad jump: 10'6"
Bench press: 350
Squat: 490

Angry Pope

03-20-2006, 06:38 PM

Thanks Rupert.

gst8

03-20-2006, 07:46 PM

C'mon now, Rupert. Darrell Green was a 5'8" corner.

Edit: Then again, so was Buchanon. ;)

I have to believe that we won't be playing a 5'8" 175lb. guy at safety.

Angry Pope

03-20-2006, 09:04 PM

Here is some information from Clayton....

There is still a lot of quarterback movement. Kerry Collins still looks like a candidate to join the Baltimore Ravens. Talks between the Bears and Brian Griese are heating up. The Bengals need a quarterback but they don't seem to be as active on Jamie Martin and might go for Tommy Maddox. The Raiders are studying Aaron Brooks. The Dolphins and the Bucs are shopping, too.

Angel

03-21-2006, 06:35 AM

I think it's pretty funny how some people already have the Raiders signing Brooks and he hasn't even been there yet!! I still think the Raiders should pass on him...you have better options IMO!! :)

Rupert

03-21-2006, 09:11 AM

I have to believe that we won't be playing a 5'8" 175lb. guy at safety.
Very unlikely. He's there for depth at corner and possibly to be the nickel. Remember, Routt isn't that polished when the ball is in the air. Can't have our nickel picking up PI's on critical 3rd downs.

Angry Pope

03-21-2006, 05:13 PM

Rupert

03-21-2006, 05:22 PM

All sound okay to me. Don't spare the ink.

CrossBones

03-21-2006, 05:24 PM

Supposedly, Aaron Brooks will sign a contract with us either tonight or tomorrow and will be our backup quarterback. Andrew Walter will be the starter.

Maddox will probably sign in Miami.

Also, supposedly, we have re-signed Chad Slaughter.Walter will be the starter? :eek:

If Al Davis has decided we're in true "rebuilding" mode then I have no problem with this. But really under the circusmstance I'd say there ought to be an open competition and let the best man win between Brooks, Tuiasosoppo and Walter.

From the sounds of it do you think Tuiasosopo is going to be traded?

Rupert

03-21-2006, 06:03 PM

What would you trade him for?

Considering that we need 3 QB's on the roster, trading him means acquiring another QB. And since we've passed on all the other FA's, that means draft.

I personally don't think going with Walter means rebuilding. We started that process two seasons ago when we decided to go back to power football. Unfortunately, I don't think the process is over yet. But, if you believe the OL is a year away from being ready (which means we need some young talent to fill the holes - or step up). We can succeed with Walter if we commit to the run and go the Pittsburgh route by limitting passes to 20-ish per game.

Angry Pope

03-21-2006, 06:04 PM

Walter will be the starter? :eek:

If Al Davis has decided we're in true "rebuilding" mode then I have no problem with this. But really under the circusmstance I'd say there ought to be an open competition and let the best man win between Brooks, Tuiasosoppo and Walter.

From the sounds of it do you think Tuiasosopo is going to be traded?

I haven't heard anything but if everything comes through, then I would like to trade Tui and get something for him.

Angry Pope

03-21-2006, 06:53 PM

Mentions Grady with a blurb about Woodson staus....

Tuesday, March 21, 2006

Free Agent Update

Filed under: Giants 101— David Syvertsen @ 3:01 pm

I do not have a lot of new information, but I will give you what I just got.

-Keyshawn’s visit went well this morning, he was able to mingle with some of the Giants that were working out. Our initial offer will be around a 3 year, $13 million deal with a fourth year club option worth over $4 million. He would recieve $ 8 million in guaranteed money. But no deal has been signed, which leads me to believe there is still a chance for Arrington.

-As of right now, the Giants have about $8-$9 million left in cap space, but at least $4 million will be used for rookies. Thus, if this Keyshawn deal goes down, that might be it for the offseason, leaving holes at DT and OLB.

-Grady Jackson was, and still is torn between three teams. The Giants, Rams, and an unknown third party, most likely the Raiders, Bills, or Chiefs have been giving him a lot of attention over the past few days. If Arrington and Johnson are both out of the picture, I’d pencil in Jackson to start next to Joseph in 2006.

-Brenston Buckner…nothing. I am told the Giants will end up with one of the big three (Keyshawn-Arrington-Jackson) and that is all. Signing one of those guys will round up our FA period and let us divert our attention to the draft.

-Charles Woodson is still without a team, but his contract demand has decreased only a little bit, if at all. The Giants have not scheduled a visit.

-A little premature on this one, but the Giants are shopping their 2007 1st rd pick to move up in this year’s draft it seems. They will have little-to-no room cap wise next year, so getting rid of that first round contract might be the reason. There will be more to come on this over the next month, just thought I’d put it in your mind.

CrossBones

03-21-2006, 07:25 PM

We wshould never have let Gravy get away in the first place.

Now we want him back after he's had the best years of his career. Makes very little sense to me.

Angry Pope

03-21-2006, 08:58 PM

If true, I think it would go with the modus operandi of signing defensive tackles that are older like Washington and Sapp. I don't think Sam Adams left here very happy and haven't heard anything as far DT visits.

Rob

03-22-2006, 08:38 AM

Rupert

03-22-2006, 08:53 AM

I wouldn't expect Grady back. He's too heavy. Art just kicked Fonoti out for being 400 lbs. Gravy is almost as fat as Fonoti. I don't think that's going to happen.

Rupert

03-22-2006, 08:58 AM

Rob: You know, I'd like a RB we'll actually use. I don't know if Turner didn't like Fargas or Al didn't like his fumblitis. Either way, there's little sense having a guy on your roster you're not going to use.

Oh yeah, we use Fargas on special teams. In my book, there's room for 2 or 3 special teams only guys, everyone else should be capable of or fighting for a starting spot. If they're not I think they're deadwood. Sure we get to put 7 guys in street clothes every week, and that means some leeway, but I want a tough decision who to tell to grab the sweatsuit, not an easy one.

Rob

03-22-2006, 09:59 AM

CrossBones

03-22-2006, 10:10 AM

I thinkn Denver is looking to move up some more even after yestersay's three way deal. They mayb e be targeting Lendale White or Verson Davis the TE. That wouldn't be a good thing for our Raiders.

There is a lot of speculation that the Raiders may take Vernon Davis at #7 although I think there would be little chance of the Raiders going RB that high.

gst8

03-22-2006, 02:05 PM

Walter will be the starter? :eek:

If Al Davis has decided we're in true "rebuilding" mode then I have no problem with this. But really under the circusmstance I'd say there ought to be an open competition and let the best man win between Brooks, Tuiasosoppo and Walter.

I'm not sure I like the idea of holding an open competition for the starting job between those guys. Reason being that unless Al envisions Brooks as a long term option, it does little for the development of this team. As irresponsible as it sounds, if Al has an inkling that Walter is our QB of the future then I prefer the baptism by fire approach. No pain... no gain.

Rupert

03-22-2006, 02:25 PM

Yeah, Denver might be trying to get up to puck Vernon Davis. They dropped their best receiving TE because he couldn't block. Unfortunately, no-one else on their roster is that good of a receiver at TE. So it makes sense for them to grab Davis, and it will hurt the rest of the division if they do get him.

Of course the Raiders hinting that they want him might have helped urge them into trading up. Maybe Al knew all along and is just F*@king with them.

Rupert

03-22-2006, 02:29 PM

I agree. I would love to have Lendale White.I don't know if he would be worth a 7th pick overall. But stranger things have happened. I think Denver will make a big push for him.
As much as I like LenDale White, we could really use more of a speed back than a banger. White is more of a banger with speed. Think a better Crockett or Wheatley.

He would be a great backup for Jordan, and possibly a better starter shortly, but he's a one-cut guy and we really need a multi-cut guy with hands who can do the 3rd down duties. So let's trade up for Bush. :cool:

Angry Pope

03-22-2006, 04:47 PM

He signed...

Brooks in as Raiders' QB

By Jerry McDonald, STAFF WRITER
Inside Bay Area

ALAMEDA - The Oakland Raiders made their first major move of the free-agent signing period Tuesday, agreeing to terms with quarterback Aaron Brooks on a contract, according to two NFL sources. Terms were not immediately available.
Brooks, who started 82 games for the New Orleans Saints from 2000-2005, will replace the unpopular Kerry Collins, who was 7-21 over the past two seasons.

The Raiders brought in Brooks for a visit Monday night; he visited with the Raiders on Tuesday, and stayed in Oakland Tuesday night when it became apparent the two sides were nearing a deal.

Brooks, who turns 30 on Friday, has ability similar to Collins in that he can throw the deep pass, but has good mobility, with 1,410 career rushing yards and 13 touchdowns.

As a second-year player in 2000, Brooks led the Saints to the only playoff win in franchise history, a 31-28 victory over the St. Louis Rams. He had a 43-43 career record until going 3-10 in 2005, losing his job to Todd Bouman.

Brooks was waived last week when the Saints signed Drew Brees to a free-agent contract.

Bringing in Brooks buys the Raiders some time if they are considering drafting one of the three top quarterbacks in the NFL Draft. The other quarterbacks on the Oakland roster are veteran Marques Tuiasosopo, who started one game last season, and second-year man Andrew Walter, who has not taken a snap from center in a regular-season game.

Angry Pope

03-22-2006, 04:51 PM

Tyrone Poole will be paid $1 million in salary in 2006 and $1.5 million in salary in 2007. I don't know about the bonus yet.

Angry Pope

03-22-2006, 05:30 PM

We made no promises he would start....

QB Brooks, Raiders agree on two-year deal

By Adam Schefter
NFL Analyst

(March 22, 2006) -- After failing to land Daunte Culpepper, after declining to bid on Drew Brees, the Oakland Raiders called for their version of their quarterback keeper.

They reached agreement with former Saints quarterback Aaron Brooks on a two-year deal worth about $8 million. There was some speculation that Brooks could visit Green Bay, but he passed up any chances to stay in Oakland.

Now, Brooks becomes the favorite to be Randy Moss' starting quarterback, Andrew Walter and Marques Tuiasosopo are likely to be back on the bench, Kerry Collins will not be returning to Oakland, and the Raiders have added their first significant offseason piece.

The Raiders told Brooks he would compete for the starting job -- no promises in advance. But he gives the Raiders the veteran presence they need.

It's a nice present for Brooks, who will turn 30 years old March 24.

Brooks managed to latch on to one of the few teams in the league that still had questions as to who would start at quarterback. At this point of free agency, starting jobs did not exactly abound, but Brooks found one.

Oakland views Brooks as a quarterback that has averaged 25 touchdown passes a year, and a player who can be a star if he learns to limit his mistakes. Other NFL teams view Brooks as a poor man's Culpepper, the quarterback the Raiders initially targeted. Somebody's right, and the Raiders are rooting that it's them.

Rupert

03-22-2006, 05:34 PM

Well, depending upon the terms, it sounds like a decent acquisition. He's been tagged as a bit of a head case. But who wouldn't have been in New Orleans the past couple seasons.

He doesn't have a great career passer rating (79.7) but he's been within 10 points of it either way his entire career (88.8 high 70.0 low), which is pretty consistent.

Except for his first and last seasons in N.O. he played all 16 games, so he's durable. He was benched for the last 3 games last season and he took over for an injured Jeff Blake in 2000 so durability has never been an issue.

His career completion percentage is 56.4 and he's been within 3 points his entire career, another very consistent number.

He's thrown a great 24 TD's to 8 Int's and a poor 13 to 17. Unfortunately, he's never thrown more than 27 TD's and thrown a high of 22 Int's. Career-wise he's thrown 120 TD's to 84 Int's (or 1.429 TD's for Int).

Art Shell's offense has never gotten more than 22 TD's from his QB's. So this won't change that approach. But I think this is probably the best QB Art has ever had, so we'll see what happens with him under center.

Rupert

03-22-2006, 05:37 PM

You know, I don't know what the freak Schefter's talking about. The Raiders denied interest in Culpepper numerous times. Maybe they weren't interested at the price being asked. Maybe they were hoping to pick him up after he was cut. But those are maybe's good ole Adam doesn't let us know he's already accepting in the affirmative.

I guess he just wanted to take another cheap shot at the Raiders.

At least he mentioned us. I guess we should be thankful. :p

Rupert

03-22-2006, 05:45 PM

Culpepper, in contrast to Brooks has a great career rating 91.5, but has been as great as 110.9 and as bad as 72.0, about 19 point in either direction. Big fluctuations. Going from MUCH better to almost as bad (and not desperately bad).

He's missed 5 games in 2001, 2 games in 2003, and 9 games in 2005. Not entirely durable.

His completion percenatge is higher 64.4 with a slightly higher deviation, but never worse than Brooks's best. So even though it's slightly less consistent, it's consistently better.

Why am I comparing the guy we didn't get to the one we got? Schefter, you're an ass, and I'm an ass for following your dubious lead.

Angry Pope

03-22-2006, 06:13 PM

One of our receivers comments...

Raiders sign quarterback Brooks to two-year contract

JANIE McCAULEY

Associated Press

ALAMEDA, Calif. - The Oakland Raiders found their replacement for Kerry Collins, signing quarterback Aaron Brooks to a two-year contract Wednesday to compete for the starting job.

The 29-year-old Brooks was cut last week by New Orleans when the Saints signed Drew Brees, one of the most coveted free agents available this year.
Brooks started 13 games for New Orleans last season, completing 240 of 431 passes for 2,882 yards and 13 touchdowns. He threw 17 interceptions.
"Oh, sweet," receiver Alvis Whitted said in a phone interview. "I'm glad that we do have a new quarterback. I'm sure he'll fit right in with what we're trying to get done here. I'm sure the coaches are excited. From what I've seen of him play, he's done some great things. He's very athletic, a mobile quarterback and very intelligent, too. He's a great fit for us, and we're happy to have him."
Brooks, who had started 82 straight games before being benched for the final three games of 2005, spent the past six seasons with the Saints after playing for Green Bay in his first NFL campaign in 1999.

Brooks, a fourth-round draft pick by the Packers out of Virginia, was one of few capable quarterbacks left on the market this offseason.

"Aaron gives us great depth at the quarterback position and provides us with a veteran presence," new Raiders coach Art Shell said.

Oakland parted ways with Collins on March 10 in an expected salary-cap move that saves them $9.2 million against the salary cap once bonuses are factored into the figures.

The 33-year-old Collins went 7-21 record in two years as Oakland's starter and said at the end of the season he was willing to restructure his deal but would not play for "peanuts."

When the team cut Collins, Shell was left to consider Marques Tuiasosopo and Andrew Walter as leading candidates for the position.

Tuiasosopo has just two starts in his five-year career. In 2003, he replaced the injured Rich Gannon to start against the Detroit Lions but suffered a season-ending injury to his left knee in the first half.

Tuiasosopo started one game last season against the New York Jets after Collins was benched but turned the ball over four times in the 26-10 loss and Collins regained the starting job the following week.

Walter, a third-round pick out of Arizona State last year, didn't play as a rookie. He threw for 85 touchdowns and 10,617 yards during his college career.

The Raiders scored only 51 points, with just six touchdowns, in their final five games and lost their last six overall and eight of nine despite an offense featuring Collins, Randy Moss, LaMont Jordan and Jerry Porter. At 4-12, they finished with one fewer victory than in fired coach Norv Turner's first season a year ago.

Perhaps the most glaring statistic is Oakland's failure to win a division game for the first time since owner Al Davis came aboard in 1963 to coach and eventually own the team. The Raiders went 1-11 against the AFC West during Turner's two seasons.

Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 12:24 AM

Raiders find live arm in Brooks

By AP wire reports
March 23, 2006

The NFL's Oakland Raiders found their replacement for Kerry Collins, agreeing to terms on Wednesday with former New Orleans quarterback Aaron Brooks on a two-year contract worth more than $8 million.

Brooks, 29, gives new Raiders coach Art Shell a proven starter to compete with veteran backup Marques Tuiasosopo and second-year pro Andrew Walter. Brooks was cut last week when the Saints signed free agent Drew Brees.

"It was a win-win scenario," said Brooks' agent, Mason Ashe. "They have a lot of potential, a lot of firepower. It looked like they were just missing the ingredient Aaron adds."

The contract includes a number of incentives based on Brooks' performance. He started 13 games for New Orleans in 2005, completing 240 of 431 passes for 2,882 yards and 13 touchdowns.

Brooks spent the past six seasons with the Saints after one season in Green Bay.

Angel

03-23-2006, 07:38 AM

Well maybe now we can quit reading about raider QB's and move on!! :p What do you guys think of the rumor about Larry Allen (maybe) coming to Oakland?

XLRaider

03-23-2006, 09:20 AM

CrossBones

03-23-2006, 09:26 AM

Pencil me in as disappointed with Brooks' signing. IMO, he's a sideways move from Kerry Collins. He's more mobile, but I think he makes worse decisions. If he's the backup, that's ok, but I just don't think you can look to him in the 4th quarter of a game where you're down a TD and say, "Yeah, we're gonna win this thing". Obviously, you can't say that about Tui or Walter yet either, but they haven't had the opportunities that Brooks has.$8 Million for two years. That's about all you need to know about the Brooks signing.

He'll be the starter on opening day. I might share some of your concerns but I'm not admitting it just yet. I don't see either Walter or Tuiasosopo beating Brooks out to start the year.

Rupert

03-23-2006, 09:54 AM

Hey! Brooks did some of those late game heroics in his first season with the Saints. It's why they let Jeff Blake, who wasn't doing a bad job, go. Since then he has been more pedestrian, but he had a couple good years.

Lateral move. Yeah, kind of. Not the kind of guy who's carried his team on his back. But that's not really what we're expecting from our QB is it? I know Art Shell isn't.

Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 11:43 AM

Slaughter....

In other news, the Raiders re-signed offensive tackles Chad Slaughter and Brad Lekkerkerker. Retaining Slaughter became a huge priority for the Raiders in light of Slaughter's performance in place of Robert Gallery in the regular-season finale Dec. 31.

Slaughter manhandled New York Giants defensive end Michael Strahan for almost the entire game in his first start of the season and only the second of his six-year NFL career. That showing validated the Raiders' decision to keep Slaughter on the roster the past four seasons as he waited for an opportunity.

Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 11:55 AM

Supposedly, Larry Allen will sign with us by the end of the week if not sooner.

Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 12:49 PM

Larry Allen is looking for a contract to make $4 million and we are only willing to go $2-3 million a year. That is the hold up at this point. It should be resolved soon if no other team comes in at the last second.

Duane Starks is a Raider but the final kinks of his contract are getting ironed out. The announcement should come soon.

Take it for what it is worth.

Angel

03-23-2006, 03:17 PM

Pencil me in as disappointed with Brooks' signing. IMO, he's a sideways move from Kerry Collins. He's more mobile, but I think he makes worse decisions. If he's the backup, that's ok, but I just don't think you can look to him in the 4th quarter of a game where you're down a TD and say, "Yeah, we're gonna win this thing". Obviously, you can't say that about Tui or Walter yet either, but they haven't had the opportunities that Brooks has.
I don't think Tui has had the chance he deserves...but as for Walter, what could he do? He was out all season injured, wasn't he? I don't think Brooks is the answer to the Raiders QB problems.....but maybe he'll do OK for a short time :p

Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 04:48 PM

Larry Allen....
Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports the San Francisco 49ers have agreed to terms with free agent OG Larry Allen (Cowboys), pending a physical. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 04:55 PM

Here is confirmation on Starks....

Raiders sign veteran cornerback Starks

Thursday March 23, 2006

ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) The Oakland Raiders signed veteran cornerback Duane Starks on Thursday, the second former New England defensive back they've acquired this week to bolster the secondary.

Starks was released by the Patriots on Feb. 25 after his lone season with New England ended in injury. He was placed on injured reserve Nov. 10 with a shoulder injury.

The Patriots acquired the 31-year-old Starks in an offseason trade with Arizona last year. He intercepted 25 passes in his first seven seasons with the Baltimore Ravens and Cardinals, but had no interceptions in seven games with the Patriots.

New England had envisioned Starks as a replacement for Ty Law, who left the Patriots after the 2004 season. Baltimore drafted Starks in the first round, 10th overall, in the 1998 draft.

Oakland added Tyrone Poole on Monday. Poole, an 11-year NFL veteran, played the last three seasons with the Patriots but was limited to six games the last two years because of injuries. He played only one game last season, the opener against Oakland, before being sidelined with an ankle injury.

The Raiders were looking for secondary help after cutting ties with Charles Woodson earlier this offseason. Poole will be added to a roster that includes three young cornerbacks in Nnamdi Asomugha, Fabian Washington and Stanford Routt.

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Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 05:51 PM

Woodson will visit Tampa Bay ....

Woodson To Visit With Bucs

By: Jim Flynn
March 23, 2006 6:55PM EST

Oakland Raiders free agent cornerback Charles Woodson is scheduled to fly to Tampa Thursday night and will meet with Tampa Bay officials at One Buccaneer Place on Friday, PewterReport.com is reporting. A former first-round draft pick, Woodson is entering his ninth season in the NFL. He posted 17 interceptions and 66 passes defensed during his eight-year career with the Raiders. The 6-foot-1, 200-pound Woodson is considered a versatile defensive back that can play both cornerback and safety.

Despite the fact that Tampa Bay has starting cornerbacks Ronde Barber and Brian Kelly, and nickel CB Juran Bolden under contract for the 2006 season, the Buccaneers still are interested in acquiring free agent cornerbacks.
PewterReport.com is reporting that Oakland Raiders free agent cornerback Charles Woodson is scheduled to fly to Tampa Thursday night and will meet with Tampa Bay officials at One Buccaneer Place on Friday.

A 1998 first-round draft pick out of Michigan, Woodson recorded 383 tackles, 17 interceptions, two touchdowns and 66 passes defensed during his eight-year career with Oakland.

The 6-foot-1, 200-pound Woodson is considered a versatile defensive back and can play both cornerback and safety.

With Barber, Kelly and Bolden under contract, the Bucs could be interested in signing Woodson to compete with Will Allen at free safety, where Woodson has spent some time playing during the latter part of his career.

Should he sign with Tampa Bay, Woodson would be reunited with head coach Jon Gruden and general manager Bruce Allen, both of whom had a hand in drafting him when they worked for the Raiders.

Woodson,29, has struggled with injuries over the past several seasons. He played in just six games last season before being placed on injured reserve with a broken leg.

Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 06:08 PM

Here is Allen's contract....

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports free agent OG Larry Allen (Cowboys) signed a two-year contract with the San Francisco 49ers believed to be worth between $4 million and $5 million per year. The deal is contingent upon Allen passing a physical and then signing the contract.

Rupert

03-23-2006, 06:12 PM

Allen is getting what he wants. We weren't willing to give it to him. Anyway, we've got kids we want to put to work.

This is more evidence we're interested in tomorrow and not today.

The signing of both former New England DB's says we're going to use them as teachers of the system as well.

Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 06:24 PM

Here is a story on Brooks....

Fresh start as Raider may be just ticket for Brooks

March 23, 2006

Pete Prisco

Sometimes a new start is a good thing, even if it means accepting failure in the past.

Aaron Brooks is about to find that out, putting the demons and the nastiness of his New Orleans Saints career finally behind him now that he's with the Oakland Raiders.

So what are the Raiders getting? A talented quarterback who somehow hasn't reached the level many thought he would.

It could be a move that pays off in a big way for the Raiders, one certainly worth the risk.

Brooks might be the biggest tease in the NFL. One play, he looks great. The next play, he looks lost. One game, he shows star potential. The next, they say he's a bum again.

That inconsistency drove the Saints mad, and it made Brooks an easy target for fans, some who even crossed the line when letting him know their disdain with racially insensitive mail.

"You'd be surprised by some of the things people have said to me," Brooks said last summer.

No, I really wouldn't.

Fans can be passionate, cruel, nasty and downright ugly. Brooks lived that with the Saints, even if he often held his tongue, not wanting to stir up a hornets nest of more nastiness.

"What's the point?" he once told me.

He let it roll off his back, the jeering on Sundays the toughest part to deal with.

Instead of lashing out, Brooks had this carefree approach that gave off the impression he didn't care. He'd smile on the field, sometimes projecting a nonchalant demeanor after throwing an interception.

It drove fans mad.

It bothered coaches.

It even riled some teammates.

When Jake Delhomme, a Louisiana product, was the team's backup, the fans screamed for the Saints to play him and not Brooks. The disdain for Brooks rose to new heights when Delhomme led the Carolina Panthers to the Super Bowl two years ago.

The credo of Saints fans became this: And we have Aaron Brooks?

You don't have him anymore.

It's time to find somebody else to beat up on. Brooks is on his way to throw deep bombs for Al Davis, the man who loves that style of play.

Brooks, who turns 30 Friday, still has some good football left in his right arm. This would seem to be a good place to start over. The Raiders are in desperate need of a veteran quarterback who can start, perhaps a guy who can help lead a young player they might take in the first round of the April draft, say a guy like Vince Young.

Six years ago, Brooks led the Saints to the playoffs, his career seemingly ready for takeoff to greatness. It never happened. There was too much inconsistency as he was sometimes asked to do too much.

Even so, Brooks leaves New Orleans as the all-time leader in touchdown passes thrown, surpassing Archie Manning. But Manning has something Brooks never will.

Love from the city of New Orleans.

Brooks has always maintained that none of that mattered, but it was clear it did, because in almost every interview I did with him when he was with the Saints, it came up -- sometimes unsolicited.

I really like Brooks. He was always accommodating, always quick with a quote, his wide smile probably hiding the anger inside. He speaks his mind, which is OK, too.

Is he a great quarterback? No, but he can be a good one. He still throws too many passes off his back foot, still forces too many passes into coverage and still turns the ball over too much.

But there's always the good, a rifle shot into a small target for a touchdown or a scramble throw for a big gain.

That's the tease.

In Oakland, with the burden of never living up to the fans' hopes in New Orleans now gone, maybe the bad will go with it, outweighed by big-play throws to Randy Moss and Jerry Porter.

Brooks signed a two-year deal worth $8 million with the Raiders. That's chump change for a starting quarterback and certainly worth the risk for the Raiders. Daunte Culpepper and Drew Brees might be the quarterback moves that made the biggest news this offseason, but don't discount this one.

That new start for Brooks just might bring out all his talents on a regular basis, the ugliness of New Orleans now in his rearview mirror. The hunch here is that this move will pay off for the Raiders, even if that might shock some fans in the Big Easy.

Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 06:49 PM

Grant Irons re-signed...

The Raiders also re-signed Grant Irons, a restricted free agent, on Thursday and signed Chad Slaughter on Wednesday.

Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 10:13 PM

We had this player in early January for a visit...Jets signed him....

Warren’s determination gets him deal with Jets

By Sammy Batten
Staff writer

Mike Warren has never been one to take no for an answer.

“I don’t even like that word,’’ the former all-conference linebacker at Pine Forest High School said.

Major college recruiters didn’t believe he was good enough as a senior at Pine Forest in 1999 to offer him a scholarship. So Warren went to Raleigh and made the N.C. State squad as a nonscholarship walk-on.

When it became apparent after two years that the Wolfpack wasn’t going to give him an opportunity to play, Warren transferred to NCAA Division I-AA Elon University and became an all-conference linebacker.

And when tryouts with several professional teams last spring didn’t result in a contract, Warren just worked harder.

The relentless attitude paid off Thursday as the National Football League’s New York Jets signed the 24-year-old to a free-agent contract.

Warren worked out Thursday morning at the Jets’ training camp facility in Hempstead, N.Y., for team officials, including Fayetteville’s Jimmy Raye. Raye is the new running backs coach for the Jets.

The performance was so impressive that the Jets made a contract offer, according to Warren’s agent, Ralph Vitolo.

“He absolutely blew it up,’’ Vitolo said. “This is such a great story because Mike just wouldn’t give up. A lot of people told him he’d never make it. This is very dramatic, almost like the Joe Horn story.’’

Horn, a Douglas Byrd graduate, only played junior college football and then in the Canadian Football League before making it big as a wide receiver for the NFL’s New Orleans Saints.

Warren, a 6-foot-1, 249-pounder, was signed by the Jets to play fullback.

It was an emotional moment when he signed the contract, according to Warren.

“I just sat there looking at it for a minute, thinking about how all my hard work had finally paid off,’’ Warren said in a telephone interview from New York’s LaGuardia Airport as he waited to return to Fayetteville. “But nobody said it was going to be easy.’’

The contract ended a two-year odyssey for Warren, who last played at Elon in 2003. He finished second on the team with 81 tackles that season, including seven behind the line of scrimmage.

After finishing his career at Elon, Warren continued to train in hopes of catching on with an NFL team as a linebacker. He was also introduced by a mutual friend to Vitolo.

“Mike came by the office and I could tell he was mentally ready to play,’’ said Vitolo, who represents NFL players such as Horn and Rowland’s Vonta Leach, among others. “But he needed better balance between his legs and upper body. So he went to Atlanta for some specialized training and when he came back the metamorphosis was incredible. He had a Pro Bowl body when he came back.’’

Warren displayed his new build at a camp attended by professional scouts last spring in Maryland. He performed so well he was invited to an “elite’’ combine that June in Indianapolis.

Teams from the arena leagues to the NFL began to express interest in Warren. The Green Bay Packers, Houston Texans, Oakland Raiders and Tampa Bay Buccaneers were NFL teams who contacted Vitolo.

Warren traveled to Oakland for a private workout Jan. 4, at which point Sean Jones of the Raiders’ player personnel department suggested another change for Warren.

“He felt Mike would be a better prospect at fullback than linebacker,’’ Vitolo said.

Raye, a Fayetteville native and graduate of E.E. Smith High School, agreed when he conducted a private workout with Warren about four weeks ago in Pinehurst. The Jets then telephoned Warren a week ago to invite him up for a private workout.

“It was just a matter of showing up and doing what I’d been doing,’’ Warren said. “I ran the fastest (40-yard dash) time I’ve run yet (4.65 seconds). I guess adrenalin had a lot to do with it. It felt good, to say the least.’’

Warren will return to New York later this month to begin offseason training with the Jets. He feels good about his chances of making the team, which currently lists just one fullback on its roster in third-year pro B.J. Askew.

“I think I’m in the right situation to have a good chance to fight for the starting fullback job and to play on special teams,’’ Warren said.

Vitolo is confident Warren will make the team.

“There are football players out there, and there are football players who are warriors,’’ Vitolo said. “That kid is a warrior.’’

Angry Pope

03-23-2006, 10:50 PM

More visits for Woodson....

Former Oakland cornerback Charles Woodson was scheduled to arrive in Tampa Bay for a get re-acquainted session with his former head coach, Jon Gruden, and Buccaneers general manager Bruce Allen. Woodson is also expected to visit Green Bay next week, and is drawing interest from Seattle. But the Seahawks, flush with the cash it saved by not matching the offer sheet that Hutchinson signed with Minnesota, could get Woodson to help fill one of their needs.

Rupert

03-24-2006, 09:15 AM

Well, putting him in the NFC is a good idea. I don't want to see him twice a year.

gst8

03-24-2006, 09:31 AM

Well, putting him in the NFC is a good idea. I don't want to see him twice a year.

We were lucky to see him twice a year here in Oakland.

RaiderIVlife

03-24-2006, 09:56 AM

We were lucky to see him twice a year here in Oakland.

bwahahahahahaha

:D

I'll never forget how the Charles Woodson supporters always told me that, "if the Raiders didn't pay Woodson, someone else would". The market for his services is obviously quite limited - just like I figured all along. Only the Raiders were apparently foolish enough to pay this guy approx. 30 million over the past three years.

Glad he's gone.

Rupert

03-24-2006, 12:22 PM

Make no mistake, someone will pay Woodson. He's still a solid CB talent. I just don't think anyone is going to pay him what he thinks he's worth. And probably not half what we paid him. :eek:

RaiderIVlife

03-24-2006, 12:38 PM

Make no mistake, someone will pay Woodson. He's still a solid CB talent. I just don't think anyone is going to pay him what he thinks he's worth. And probably not half what we paid him. :eek:

Well yeah, that was my un-stated definition of "paid". Someone will certainly pay him 4-5 mill per year plus incentives, but the days of top-5 salary are long gone IMO.

Enough of Charles Woodson.

I see the Raiders signed Dewayne Starks. Good solid veteran if healthy, will probably fill the Renaldo Hill vacany I would think.

Rupert

03-24-2006, 01:58 PM

Starks and Tyrone Poole will take over for Hill and Walker. Veteran depth accounted for. Anyone who says we signed them because we lost Woodson doesn't understand we drafted Asomugha in case we lost Woodson a couple years ago. We drafted Washington to replace Buchanon. And we drafted Routt to be the nickel and 1st guy off the bench. They all look capable of doing the jobs we got them for. The new vets are for depth and injury assistance. If they are any more than that we scored big time. Of course if we NEED them for any more than that, grrrr.

Angry Pope

03-24-2006, 03:01 PM

It appears Starks contract is one year at $710,000.

Angry Pope

03-24-2006, 03:38 PM

We signed this player...here is his draft profile from 2002....

Glenn "Rashad" Moore
Position: Defensive Tackle
College: Tennessee
Height: 6-3
Weight: 324
Hometown: Huntsville, Ala.

Career Notes | Agility | High School | Personal | Stats

ANALYSIS

Positives: Good athlete with that natural burst and snap anticipation skills to dominate coming out of his stance … Charges with explosive quickness and power … Can neutralize and control combo blocks, uses his hands with force to disengage … Has good lateral agility, finishing well on stunts … Collides with force and shows proper wrapup tackling technique … Maintains balance and uses his hands effectively to defeat low blocks … Has the ability to plant and drive on the ball, displaying above-average quickness in long pursuit … Disruptive chasing the quarterback … Stays low and works his hips well shooting the gaps.

Negatives: Has very poor workout habits … Tends to put on considerable weight and shy away from the weight room when not monitored … Needs to drop 20 pounds in order to retain his explosion … Additional weight has robbed him of his lateral flexibility, but he does have an explosive straight-ahead burst … Gets too narrow-based due to his soft midsection, resulting in blockers getting underneath his pads to drive him off the ball … Needs to show better leverage in his anchor … His tenacity only comes in spurts … Needs to break down and wrap better as ball carriers can elude him in space … Disrupts the action in the backfield, but just can't seem to get to the quarterback … Runs out of gas too much due to poor conditioning … Has a tendency to get too high in his stance when moving laterally and lacks change-of-direction agility which leaves him exposed too much … Attitude needs to be improved, as his coaches constantly got on him about his conditioning.

CAREER NOTES

Took over as the team's defensive anchor in his final year after John Henderson and Albert Haynesworth departed for the NFL … Recorded 95 tackles (61 solos) with 3½ sacks, 9 stops behind the line of scrimmage, 3 fumble recoveries, 2 forced fumbles and 5 pass deflections during his career.
2002 SEASON

All-Southeastern Conference honorable mention by the Associated Press … Started the first team and final two games at left defensive tackle … Recorded a career-high 41 tackles (28 solos) with 2 sacks for minus-26 yards and 4 stops for losses of 31 yards … Had a quarterback pressure, a forced fumble and 3 fumble recoveries.

Preseason - Bothered in spring drills with a nagging back strain.
Wyoming - Caused a fumble on an 11-yard sack.
Middle Tennessee - Recovered a fumble and made 3 hits.
Florida - Sacked QB Rex Grossman for a 15-yard loss, recovered a fumble and posted 5 tackles (4 solos).
Arkansas - Had a 5-tackle performance.
Georgia, Alabama and Miami - Totaled 4 tackles in each game.
Mississippi State - Recovered a fumble, returning the ball 9 yards for a touchdown, but left the game with a neck/shoulder stinger.
Vanderbilt - Did not play (neck/shoulder).
Maryland (Peach Bowl) - Closed out his career with 3 tackles (2 solos).

2001 SEASON

Played in every game, starting vs. Syracuse and Florida at right defensive tackle and vs. Arkansas and Vanderbilt at left tackle … Finished with 28 tackles (13 solos), an interception, 3 pass deflections and 7 quarterback pressures.

2000 SEASON

Appeared in seven games as a reserve defensive tackle, recording 22 tackles (17 solos) with 1½ sacks for minus-21 yards and 5 stops for losses of 29 yards … Deflected a pass and caused a fumble.

1998 SEASON

Missed the first four games of the season with a high ankle sprain, collecting 4 tackles (3 solos) in limited action.

1998 SEASON

Redshirted as a freshman.

INJURY REPORT

Missed the first four games of the 1999 season with a high ankle sprain … Sat out four games in 2000 after spraining his foot vs. South Carolina … Missed the second half of the 2001 Notre Dame game with a back sprain … Bothered in 2002 spring drills with a lower back strain … Did not play vs. Vanderbilt in 2002 due to a neck/shoulder stinger.

CAMPUS AGILITY TESTS

4.95 in the 40-yard dash … 385-pound bench press … 315-pound power clean.

COMBINE AGILITY TESTS

ARM HAND TEST 40 20 10 225 VJ BJ SHUTTLE CONE
32 10¼ 18

HIGH SCHOOL

Attended Johnson (Huntsville, Ala.) High … National Recruiting Advisor All-America, Player of the Year, all-metro, all-around and Defensive MVP as a senior … Made 65 tackles, 10½ sacks, 3 fumble recoveries, including one returned for a touchdown that year … Played only two seasons, starting at tight end and defensive tackle … His school went 10-2 his junior year and 8-4 his senior campaign … All-metro and all-area in basketball … Coached by Harold Wells.

PERSONAL

Psychology major … Born Glenn Rashad Moore on March 16, 1979 … Resides in Huntsville, Ala.

Angry Pope

03-24-2006, 03:43 PM

He was with Seattle the past three years and signed a one year deal for $460,000....

Stats..... (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396041)

CrossBones

03-24-2006, 03:50 PM

Thanks AP...I never heard of the guy and he's playing in my backyard! :eek:

Angry Pope

03-24-2006, 05:37 PM

We are talking with Grady Jackson....

NFL: Bengals re-sign Wilkins

By GEOFF HOBSON

The Bengals secured their leading special teams tackler over the past two seasons Thursday when backup linebacker Marcus Wilkins agreed to a one-year deal, according to his agent.

The Bengals don't confirm deals until they are signed.

But the hunt for a backup quarterback appeared to stall with Joey Harrington expected to go to Kansas City at some point in a trade and the agents for Jamie Martin and Anthony Wright waiting to hear from the Bengals.

The agent for defensive tackle Sam Adams said he and the Bengals talked Wednesday but Angelo Wright is also talking to the Raiders as well as to the Falcons about another run stopper, Grady Jackson. One league source said yet another defensive tackle Lional Dalton, who visited the Bengals last week, re-signed in Kansas City after brief talks with the Bengals.

One of the agents for Pro Bowl linebacker LaVar Arrington, Carl Poston, said Arrington didn’t come for a visit as previously thought, although he expects one still might happen.

"LaVar and I got our wires crossed," Poston said Thursday. "He has been making visits and been on the road a lot. I still think it's a visit that could happen at some point."

Wilkins, 26, got a one-year deal for the minimum $585,000 salary along with a $40,000 bonus, agent Mark Mersel said. On Tuesday, Mersel finalized a two-year deal with former Packers receiver/punt returner Antonio Chatman that the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported is worth about $1.5 million but could increase to $2 million with incentives. Chatman gets about $250,000 this year in signing and workout bonuses, the paper said.

With Wilkins now blocking on punt returns again, Mersel joked that he was just trying to get Chatman his incentives.

“There’s no question that Marcus wanted to return there. He likes the coaches and he’s obviously been productive for them,” Mersel said. “There was some strong interest from other teams, and we had hoped to get a longer term, but when that was satisfactory we were comfortable that his role can expand on defense and we’ll see what happens on the market next year.”

A big booster of the move is special teams coach Darrin Simmons, who over the weekend saw the Texans nab one of his top players over the past three years in restricted free agency in wide receiver Kevin Walter. Although the Giants signed special teams ace David Tyree to No. 3 receiver money, the Bengals matching a four-deal that included $2.5 million guaranteed for a No. 4 receiver didn’t appear plausible.

But Simmons also doesn’t have another wide receiver like Walter who can play in all four phases of the kicking game.

Tab Perry is a possibility, but he returns kicks and he could be the No. 3 receiver depending on Chris Henry’s situation.

So it was imperative that the Bengals keep the 6-2, 230-pound Wilkins, one of Simmons’s coveted “four-phase” guys. He’s got 36 special teams tackles since joining the Bengals on waivers from Green Bay 11 days before the 2004 opener, ahead of safety Anthony Mitchell’s 34 and Walter’s 31.

Mitchell, who re-signed for a year last week, and Wilkins give Simmons continuity for a unit that ranked 16th in the NFL fueled by cover teams led by Wilkins. The Bengals finished seventh in kick coverage and 16th in punt coverage.

“His strong suit is his speed. He can really run, so his strength is on kickoffs,” Simmons said of Wilkins. “He got double-teamed almost every time down the field this season and it hardly happened to him the year before because he was an unknown. A guy like Marcus taking up two guys opens it up for guys like Anthony Mitchell and Kevin Walter.”

Of the Bengals free agents, four are in the fold or about to be in the fold with offseason workouts set to begin April 3: Wilkins, Mitchell, backup cornerback Rashad Bauman, and backup running back Kenny Watson.

Three have signed elsewhere in backup quarterback Jon Kitna (Lions), tight end Matt Schobel (Eagles) and backup middle linebacker Nate Webster (Broncos). Indications are the Bengals would like to re-sign backup linebacker Hannibal Navies, tight end Tony Stewart, and backup defensive lineman Carl Powell, but they don’t appear to be pursuing backup safety Ifeanyi Ohalete and backup fullback Nick Luchey.

Rupert

03-24-2006, 06:07 PM

I think a doubt remains as to whether Gravy could pass Art's physical.

Angry Pope

03-25-2006, 01:02 AM

Info on Woodson's visit in Tampa Bay and Seattle is not interested....

Bucs Will Meet With Woodson
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By ROY CUMMINGS rcummings@tampatrib.com

Published: Mar 24, 2006

TAMPA - The Bucs don't appear to be in need of a starting-caliber cornerback, but one of that ilk apparently is headed their way.

The agent for four-time Pro Bowl corner Charles Woodson confirmed that Woodson arrived in Tampa late Thursday for a meeting with the Bucs today.

Woodson, 29, had his best years while playing under Bucs coach Jon Gruden in Oakland, making the Pro Bowl in each of his first four seasons. Since 2002, however, Woodson has struggled to stay healthy and play up to the level of some enormous contracts.

Woodson made $10.5 million after being named the Raiders' franchise player for the second consecutive year last season, but for the fourth consecutive year he failed to turn in a complete season, missing the final 10 games because of a broken leg.

The Bucs appear set at corner, with starters Ronde Barber and Brian Kelly and backup Juran Bolden, who recently was re-signed to a multiyear contract. They are, however, in need of an experienced free safety, so the Bucs may plan to ask Woodson to consider a move there.

"Charles will do anything, including selling popcorn, if it's going to help his team win," said Woodson's agent, Carl Poston. "The good thing is Jon and [Bucs general manager] Bruce [Allen] know what they're getting with this kid. But [economics] will obviously be a determining factor."

The news regarding Woodson, who also plans to visit Green Bay and Seattle, came shortly after the Bucs learned they'd lost out in bidding for former Patriots free-agent tackle Tom Ashworth, who agreed to terms on a five-year contract with the Seahawks.

The Bucs targeted Ashworth as a possible replacement for Kenyatta Walker, but according to agent Tom Mills, Ashworth received a more lucrative offer from the Seahawks and felt more comfortable about playing in Seattle.

"[Tom] really hit it off with the Seattle [offensive line] coach and felt like their offense suits his talents very well," Mills wrote in an e-mail. "The compensation package is very fair for a starter.

"Tampa was very creative throughout the [negotiating] process and made a sincere effort to complete the deal within their cap space."

Complete details of Ashworth's contract were not available, but it is believed to include a payout of $4.5 million in the first year. Mills said previously that the Bucs offered only to pay backup rates for Ashworth, mostly a regular with the Patriots the past three seasons.

The Bucs have also expressed interest in signing free-agent tackles Brad Hopkins and Mike Pearson, and the agent for Walker has said in recent weeks that the Bucs remain interested in retaining Walker as well.

The Bucs also continued their efforts to add depth to their receiving corps. They continued negotiating with the agent for Giants free agent Tim Carter, and according to one of his representatives, Chiefs free agent Marc Boerigter still was contemplating joining the Bucs.

Meanwhile, the New Orleans Times Picayune reported that the Bucs have scheduled an interview with receiver/return specialist Michael Lewis.

Also, a representative for Broncos free-agent linebacker and special teams standout Patrick Chukwurah said Chukwurah is trying to decide between signing with the Bucs or returning to Denver.

and....

Poston said no contract negotiations have taken place, nor does he expect any until Woodson visits the Green Bay Packers next week. Poston said he also hoped to arrange a visit with the Seahawks, but Seattle officials said Friday they have no interest in Woodson.

Angry Pope

03-25-2006, 10:22 AM

Here are some comments by Crockett on Brooks....

Raiders insider: Second chance awaits Brooks as Raiders QB

By Jason Jones -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Saturday, March 25, 2006

The Raiders have been a haven for veterans to revive their careers, and quarterbacks are no different.

Jim Plunkett, Jeff Hostetler and Rich Gannon were three who found success with the Raiders after playing to mixed reviews with other teams.

The Raiders now hope that's the case with their newest quarterback, Aaron Brooks.

If successful, Brooks' name will be mentioned along the lines of Plunkett, Hostetler and Gannon.

Plunkett won two Super Bowls. Gannon was a league Most Valuable Player and reached the Super Bowl. Hostetler had his best individual seasons and went to the Pro Bowl as a Raider.

Should Brooks stumble, his name instead will be lumped in with the likes of Jeff George, Marc Wilson, Jay Schroeder and, most recently, Kerry Collins.

The mention of these names is more likely to bring frowns from the Raider Nation, as all are associated with less-than-stellar performances.

One of the reasons Brooks agreed to a two-year contract with the Raiders is for an opportunity to prove his last season in New Orleans wouldn't define his career.

Brooks, 30, was 3-10 as a starter under then-coach Jim Haslett last season. Haslett benched Brooks in favor of career backup Todd Bouman for the final three games.

Haslett told the New Orleans Times-Picayune that Brooks "regressed" last season but wouldn't say the unusual circumstances of having no headquarters or home field because of Hurricane Katrina were excuses.

Brooks' agent, Mason Ashe, said his client called the Raiders a "win-win" situation.

The Raiders are stable in the skill positions, with receivers Randy Moss and Jerry Porter and tailback LaMont Jordan. The Raiders believe they have pieces in place for a high-scoring offense.

"It doesn't get any better than this for a quarterback coming into a new situation," fullback Zack Crockett said.

One reason Norv Turner was fired and replaced by Art Shell as coach was that the Raiders averaged only 18.1 points per game last year. The Raiders scored more than 21 points only three times in 2005.

Crockett said he looks forward to playing with Brooks and that the quarterback reminded him of Gannon and former Florida State teammate Charlie Ward.

If Brooks can resurrect the athleticism and instincts that once made him an exciting quarterback to watch, he likely will be more Gannon and less Collins, whose immobility limited his effectiveness when the offensive line broke down.

"He can move around, and he's known for his escapability," Crockett said. "It helps everyone. It helps the offensive line. It helps the running backs. It helps the receivers. And you've got a new coach who played offensive line, so you know he's going to protect you."

Angry Pope

03-25-2006, 10:28 AM

Here is more on Brooks contract....

Oakland signed Brooks on Wednesday to a reported two-year, $8 million deal with some $1.5 million in bonus money. One source said the contract is heavily weighted toward the second season, giving the Raiders an out should Brooks fail to live up to expectations.

Angel

03-25-2006, 11:22 AM

Angry Pope

03-25-2006, 09:05 PM

Supposedly, we are looking to get Sam Adams and Ray Lewis...take it for what it is worth.

CrossBones

03-25-2006, 09:21 PM

Supposedly, we are looking to get Sam Adams and Ray Lewis...take it for what it is worth.I'm all for this.

It's another signal that Al isn't satisfied to be "rebuilding". He's not gonna bring in an older Sam Adams and trade for Ray Lewis with the idea that he's going with a youth movement and rebuilding. That would be an oxy moron.

Angel

03-26-2006, 09:26 AM

I'd love to have Ray Lewis on my team....I don't care who he murders!! :p

Angry Pope

03-26-2006, 10:28 AM

It appears we are still interested in Walls....

Chiefs interested in Walls

Having recovered from a prolonged groin injury, former starting Denver cornerback Lenny Walls visited Kansas City this weekend and may visit Atlanta. Oakland also is showing interest.

Walls was waived by Denver in November and was claimed by the Raiders. However, he didn't pass his physical.

But Walls is completely healthy now.

It wouldn't be a surprise if Walls signs with the Chiefs. The team has a need at the position and former Denver secondary coach David Gibbs has the same staff job with the Chiefs.

Rupert

03-26-2006, 11:06 AM

Angry Pope

03-26-2006, 12:16 PM

Here is more on Brooks' contract....

With Aaron Brooks agreeing to a two-year contract worth a reported $8 million - approximately $3 million of that due in 2006 in bonus and salary — it gives the Raiders an opportunity to sever the relationship should they draft a quarterback or decide second-year man Andrew Walter is their future.

Raiders_Rock

03-27-2006, 02:01 AM

Supposedly, we are looking to get Sam Adams and Ray Lewis...take it for what it is worth.

Sam Adams would be nice for stuffing the run and occupying blockers - Lewis would also be good if he can stay healthy for the year, but that would mean we'd have to work with 3 middle linebackers that don't have much speed. I don't know how we'd fit Lewis in with Clark and Kirk....

Angel

03-27-2006, 06:51 AM

Walls was always intriguing because he could cover pretty well and is 6-4. I say pretty well because he's overmatched against most smaller WR's, but since the overwhelming trend is to use huge WR's, he fits the bill more and more.
Ok back off.....the Chiefs need to sign someone!! Damn you got Poole and Starks already....be happy!! :p

Rupert

03-27-2006, 09:44 AM

Sam Adams would be nice for stuffing the run and occupying blockers - Lewis would also be good if he can stay healthy for the year, but that would mean we'd have to work with 3 middle linebackers that don't have much speed. I don't know how we'd fit Lewis in with Clark and Kirk....
But then we'd have Lewis and Clark. Would that make Kirk Sacagawea?

Angry Pope

03-27-2006, 02:13 PM

Here is more on Brooks' contract to go along with the other info above....his salary this year is $2 million and next year it will be $720,000

Angel

03-27-2006, 08:33 PM

Here is more on Brooks' contract to go along with the other info above....his salary this year is $2 million and next year it will be $720,000
That's a hell of a drop isn't it?

Angry Pope

03-28-2006, 12:22 AM

Henri Crockett released....

In other news, the Raiders released veteran linebacker Henri Crockett. They signed him earlier this month but opted against taking a chance on a player who hasn't played in the NFL since the 2003 season.

Raiders_Rock

03-28-2006, 07:34 AM

I wonder why we signed the guy in the first place...

Raiders_Rock

03-28-2006, 10:07 AM

Another LB coming in...

Raiders | Team showing a strong interest in K. Adams
Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:51:49 -0800

Mark Eckel, of the Trenton Times, reports the Oakland Raiders are showing a strong interest in signing free agent LB Keith Adams (Eagles).

Angry Pope

03-28-2006, 10:31 AM

More on Charles....

WOODSON PLANS: Reading between the lines, it appears the Bucs' interest in Raiders defensive back Charles Woodson is for him to play safety.

Woodson visited One Buc Place last week but left without an offer. He became a free agent March 11 when the Raiders declined to use their franchise tag on him as they had the two previous seasons.

"Free agency is not just making acquisitions, it's the interview process," Gruden said. "Charles is a friend of mine and now that he's a free agent it's a chance to resume some friendships. I care about him. He's a great player and was a great player when I was with him, I know that.

"I look at Charles as a football player. That's how he won the Heisman Trophy, playing offense, playing defense. And as you watched him play (last) year, he played strong safety, free safety, left and right corner. He's a football player. His role, if we were to be able to get him, would be determined as the days unfold. He is a hell of a football player, a great guy and obviously we're pursuing him like a lot of other teams are."

Rupert

03-28-2006, 11:03 AM

"He is a hell of a football player, a great guy and obviously we're pursuing him like a lot of other teams are."
Yeah, pursuing him slowly and with a small contract amount, hoping someone else will be fool enough to give him a big contract.

Yeah, we see how you're pursuing him. Just as well as we see how "a lot of other teams" are.

Angry Pope

03-28-2006, 02:46 PM

Here is another one.....

Tom Kowalski, of mlive.com, reports Detroit Lions team president Matt Millen has given the Oakland Raiders permission to invite Lions' QB Joey Harrington for a visit. Millen isn't sure if Harrington is going to visit the Raiders, but they've been given permission to talk to him.

Angry Pope

03-28-2006, 07:50 PM

Supposedly, we have had ongoing discussions with Green Bay about acquiring Javon Walker.

Supposedly, we have had ongoing discussions with New Orleans about moving up to the number two spot in the draft. Jerry Porter was a part of that discussion.

CrossBones

03-28-2006, 08:13 PM

I had heard today on ESPN radio that the Packers said they had "no intention of trading Walker"...so who the heck knows. These teams are all lying to each other and anybody else who will listen!

As for Harrington, I wonder if Al would be interested in talking to him. But the Lions haven't released him so there would be compensation involved. That's dicey.

Angry Pope

03-29-2006, 12:31 AM

It appears that Adams won't decide on a team until next week....

Free-agent checkbook remains open
Eagles linebacker Adams pays visit

Kent Somers
The Arizona Republic
Mar. 29, 2006 12:00 AM

Although the Cardinals have completed their shopping for big-ticket players in free agency, they haven't put away their checkbook for good yet.

Outside linebacker Keith Adams, a five-year veteran most recently with Philadelphia, visited Arizona last Friday. The Raiders reportedly also are interested in Adams.

His agent, Jordan Woy, doesn't expect any deal to be reached this week, he said via e-mail. advertisement

The Cardinals are interested in acquiring a weak-side linebacker to compete with Orlando Huff, who started last season.

Adams, 5 feet 11, 223 pounds, was mostly a special-teams player and spot starter during his first three years in Philadelphia. He started all 16 games last year, finishing with 101 tackles, including 12 in a loss to the Cardinals in December.

He was with Dallas one year before moving on to Philadelphia.

The Cardinals have signed two free agents from other teams this off-season: running back Edgerrin James from Indianapolis and guard Milford Brown from Houston. They have also re-signed quarterback Kurt Warner and guard Reggie Wells.

Raiders_Rock

03-29-2006, 08:46 AM

doesn't make much sense for us to go after Javon - we already have an overload of receivers...

however, Javon was injured last year so we're probably interested in him

Rupert

03-29-2006, 09:03 AM

Supposedly, we have had ongoing discussions with New Orleans about moving up to the number two spot in the draft. Jerry Porter was a part of that discussion.
We want #2! We want #2! Giving up Porter is well worth it.

Angel

03-29-2006, 10:21 AM

Yeah, pursuing him slowly and with a small contract amount, hoping someone else will be fool enough to give him a big contract.

Yeah, we see how you're pursuing him. Just as well as we see how "a lot of other teams" are.
I think Woodson and Law ....as well as Arrington, may be sitting and waiting for a bit, till their asking price comes down!! :)

Rupert

03-29-2006, 11:46 AM

Or until someone loses a projected starter in the pre-season. When the amount a team is willing to pay will go up (if it can).

Angry Pope

03-31-2006, 10:59 AM

Sam Adams has signed with the Bengals....per ESPN.

Angel

03-31-2006, 02:13 PM

Or until someone loses a projected starter in the pre-season. When the amount a team is willing to pay will go up (if it can).
Good point Rupert....and that's bound to happen....it always does!!

Angry Pope

04-01-2006, 10:19 PM

Lenny Walls signs with the Chiefs....

Chiefs sign Walls to one-year, $1.75M deal

John Clayton

It's been a tall order trying to fix the Kansas City secondary over the past two years, but the Chiefs made a big move Saturday by reaching a one-year, $1.75 million deal with former Denver Bronco Lenny Walls.

At 6-foot-4, Walls is the tallest cornerback in the NFL. He had been with the Broncos for almost four seasons before he asked for his release late last season, trying to get ready for the 2006 season. Walls, hoping to play the Broncos twice a year, visited two of the Broncos' AFC West rivals -- the Raiders and the Chiefs -- before taking an offer from the Chiefs to challenge for playing time.

One of the biggest pluses to joining the Chiefs is the chance to be reunited with new Chiefs secondary coach David Gibbs, whom he worked with in Denver. Gibbs was fired by Herman Edwards during the offseason.

The 192-pound Walls was a success story coming out of college as an undrafted free agent. He was a full-time starter in 2003 but had injuries that bothered him in 2004 and 2005.

Raiders_Rock

04-02-2006, 10:34 PM

that's an awful lot of money for a guy who hasn't done much in his career...

Angry Pope

04-03-2006, 11:12 AM

From PFW...take it for what it is worth....

Though sources close to the Raiders believe the team could use an upgrade at the backup RB spot, Oakland’s needs elsewhere may trump any possibility of bringing in competition for Justin Fargas, an Al Davis favorite because of his speed.

Angry Pope

04-03-2006, 05:32 PM

Green Bay may be the one that will sign Woodson....from NFL Network...

(April 3, 2006) -- One way or another, it now looks like cornerback Charles Woodson is going to wind up by the Bay -- either Green Bay or Tampa Bay.

Woodson spent today visiting Green Bay. One Packers official said the team has a "significant interest" in signing the former Raiders cornerback. It should.

The Packers need another cornerback to start opposite Al Harris, and signing him would allow Green Bay to move its 2004 first-round pick Ahmad Carroll to nickel back.

Then there is this factor, which could well be the deciding factor in where Woodson winds up: The Packers still have a bushel of salary-cap room available, whereas Tampa Bay does not.

Green Bay's biggest offseason moves were re-signing defensive end Aaron Kampman and running back Ahman Green, but just as notable, the team also lost kicker Ryan Longwell and center Mike Flanagan.

An NFL executive believes the Packers are feeling the pressure of signing a high-profile productive free agent, and there just aren't many more out there. Woodson is one of the last men standing. His addition would be a boost to the Packers roster and Green Bay's morale, especially while it awaits Brett Favre's decision.

And no one knows when Favre finally will announce his decision, but the football world is almost assured of hearing something this week.

Favre is hosting his annual golf tournament April 6-9 in Tunica, Miss. Tunica could be just the town and time for Favre to say, as many Packers officials expect, that the quarterback would like to return for one more season -- his last. Favre is expected to attend his golf tournament, and Packers fans would like to know whether their quarterback can be expected in Green Bay.

CrossBones

04-03-2006, 05:51 PM

Thisw wouldn't surprise me at all. Green Bay has a lot of cap room.

And, Woodson wil lbe happy to get back to the snow and cold weather! :eek:

Raiders_Rock

04-03-2006, 08:02 PM

I would be very surprised if Woodson plays more than 10 games in a season until he retires

Rupert

04-03-2006, 08:10 PM

This offseason blows
No it doesn't. If it did, I probably wouldn't complain about it.

Angel

04-04-2006, 07:10 AM

Lenny Walls signs with the Chiefs....
Oh great.....the CB who Samie Parker burned for a TD....Will now get burned by Moss, Smith, Gates, ETC.....good going Chiefs!! :rolleyes:

gst8

04-04-2006, 02:46 PM

Thisw wouldn't surprise me at all. Green Bay has a lot of cap room.

And, Woodson wil lbe happy to get back to the snow and cold weather! :eek:

Landing in Green Bay would be a little ironic after all his talk about wanting to play for a Florida team. His brittle bones don't stand a chance on the frozen tundra.

Angry Pope

04-04-2006, 04:38 PM

Best of who is left...I don't agree with the Woodson blurb...take it for what it is worth...

Best Defensive Players Left

1. LaVar Arrington, LB - We wonder how Arrington feels about giving back $4 million now. His agents asked for too much money at first and now most of the league’s cap space is gone. The Dolphins, Jaguars, and Giants have shown interest.

2. Charles Woodson, CB – He’s overhyped, overpriced, and not great in the locker room. That said, he’s still a starting caliber cornerback and there aren’t many of those left.

3. Ty Law, CB – Still a solid starter, but wants to be paid for his career. He’s meeting with the Seahawks.

4. Grady Jackson, DT – Questionable attitude, but a starting run-stuffer.

5. Ahmed Plummer, CB – An ascending cornerback talent before injuries struck the last two seasons.

6. Tommy Polley, LB – Did a nice job filling in at linebacker for the Ravens.

7. Brad Kassel, LB – Would fit in nicely as a rotation inside linebacker for a 3-4 team.

8. Gary Walker, DE – Veteran could help a 3-4 defense as a rotation end.

9. Tebucky Jones, S – Nothing special, but there are worse safeties starting in the league.

10. Lance Schulters, S – See Tebucky Jones.

Best Offensive Players

1. Kerry Collins, QB - It’s surprising the Ravens haven’t jumped to sign him. He will either retire or end up in Baltimore or Arizona as an intriguing backup.

2. Peerless Price, WR- It’s awfully thin on offense when Price is our second ranked player left. But there should be enough talent there to be a No. 3 receiver. The Patriots are reportedly looking at him.

3. Antowain Smith, RB - Has shown he can be a useful backup running back the last two years.

4. Anthony Thomas, RB - It’s surprising how close he is to being out of the league for good.

5. Az-Zahir Hakim, WR - Can’t stay healthy, but a versatile No. 3 receiver and return option.

6. Jonathan Wells, RB - Could help a team as a No. 3 running back and fullback.

7. Paul Edinger, K - Teams seem to prefer him over Todd Peterson, the other veteran kicker out there.

8. Ricky Proehl, WR - May have to hang ‘em up.

9. Tommy Maddox, QB - We would take Anthony Wright over him, but it looks like Tommy Gun will get a job somewhere.

10. David Boston, WR - Just a public service announcement that he’s still alive. Four years removed from a 1,500-yard season, the 27-year old could be out of the league.

Restricted Free Agents

1. Ike Taylor, Steelers CB – A team would have to give up a first-round pick to get sign away this promising young cornerback. The Steelers would also be inclined to match any reasonable offer. That said, is a low first-round pick such a crazy pricetag for a future star at cornerback?

2. Seneca Wallace, Seahawks QB – The backup quarterback for the NFC champs took a visit to Tampa, but received no offer sheet. The Seahawks don’t seem sold on Wallace as their long-term backup, but his athleticism is intriguing and would only cost a fourth-round pick.

3. Josh Brown, Seahawks K – Seattle can match any offer Brown receives or receive a seventh-round pick back. We’d be surprised if Green Bay, Atlanta or New England doesn’t try to sign him.

4. Ricky Manning, Panthers CB – The rest of the league must view Manning as a one game wonder. Pushed to a nickel spot after his starring role in Carolina’s Super Bowl run, he would only require a third-round pick to sign.

5. Zach Hilton, Saints TE – We’re not big fans of Hilton, but he produced well to close 2005 and would require no compensation to sign. That says how highly the Saints’ new staff values him.

6. Vince Manuwai, Jaguars G – An up-and-coming guard, most teams aren’t interested in swapping a third-round pick for an interior lineman.

Angry Pope

04-05-2006, 12:16 AM

Deke Cooper....

The Dolphins continue to upgrade their secondary. They should be able to land Jaguars safety Deke Cooper in the next 24 hours. The Jaguars tendered Cooper a first-round choice last year as a restricted free agent last year. He will become the fourth addition to the secondary.

Angel

04-05-2006, 09:21 AM

Why do they think Kerry Collins is the best offensive player available? They must not have watched the Raiders last season!! :p

Rupert

04-05-2006, 09:50 AM

Sure they did. And the watched the other guys too. Yuuuuck.

Angry Pope

04-05-2006, 03:48 PM

Deke Cooper confirmation...

Dolphins Sign S Deke Cooper As An Unrestricted Free Agent

April 5, 2006

The Miami Dolphins today signed four-year veteran safety Deke Cooper to a one-year contract as an unrestricted free agent from Jacksonville.

The 28-year-old Cooper has spent the last three seasons with the Jaguars. In 2005, he started 12 of the 16 games in which he played at strong safety, and recorded 80 tackles and an interception, while adding six stops on special teams. In 2003, his first season with Jacksonville, he started ten games at free safety and collected 74 tackles and an interception. Overall in his NFL career, which also includes one season with Carolina (2002), he has played in 56 games, including 22 starts. He has totaled 190 tackles, three interceptions, a sack, one fumble recovery, one forced fumble and 33 stops on special teams. He also played with Rhein of the NFL Europe League in the spring of 2002 and was a first-team All-NFLEL selection as he led the league with six interceptions.

The 6-2, 210-pound Cooper was a four-year letterman at Notre Dame (1996-99) where started 25 of the 45 games in which he appeared. He totaled 203 tackles, six interceptions, four fumble recoveries and seven forced fumbles. He graduated from Notre Dame with a degree in sociology and computer applications. Born October 18, 1977 in Swainsboro, Ga., Cooper attended Evansville (Ind.) North High School, where he lettered in football and track.

Angry Pope

04-05-2006, 10:24 PM

Bucs Familiar Faces, Success Could Lure Woodson

IRA KAUFMAN
4/5/2006

TAMPA - Tampa Bay's status as a division champion and Charles Woodson's familiarity with Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen could prove to be critical factors in his choosing between the Bucs and Packers, according to the agent for the four-time Pro Bowl cornerback.

Negotiations continued Wednesday between the Bucs and Woodson, the first rookie Gruden welcomed to the NFL as a head coach, but the Packers also remain interested in the former Heisman Trophy winner.

"Charles wants to win, and that's the bottom line," said Woodson's representative, Carl Poston. "He went 12-0 his last year at Michigan and won a national championship. Now, he wants that Super Bowl ring and he wants to join a team that's committed to winning."

There are indications the unrestricted free agent may take his time before making a decision.

Woodson, who turns 30 in October, earned a combined $19.3 million as Oakland's franchise player the past two seasons before hitting the open market. He has already visited One Buc Place and Green Bay, with Seattle rumored to be another potential suitor.

"I would think the familiarity between Charles, Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen is a big plus for the Bucs," Poston said. "We want to get a deal done, but it has to be the right fit at the right numbers. Green Bay probably is in better shape cap-wise, but you never know. Sometimes, those things can be deceiving."

A broken leg sidelined Woodson for the final 10 games in 2005, but he is still considered one of the league's elite defensive backs.

While the Packers are likely to keep him at corner, Woodson probably would be shifted to safety if he joins the Bucs, who have one of the NFL's premier cornerback tandems in Ronde Barber and Brian Kelly.

Poston suggested Woodson's role in the secondary wouldn't be a deal-breaker.

"I think it depends more on the system," he said. "Bruce told me a long time ago that Charles is such a phenomenal athlete, he could probably be the best free safety in the league if he wanted to."

The Packers may have more money to offer Woodson, but the Bucs appear to have several advantages.

Green Bay is coming off a 4-12 season and Brett Favre's status remains uncertain. The Packers play in frosty Lambeau Field, and their defense allowed an average of 21.5 points per game last year.

The Bucs had the NFL's top-rated defense and won the NFC South with an 11-5 mark.

After leaving the Wolverines after his junior year, Woodson was the fourth player drafted in 1998, Gruden's first season on the Raiders sideline.

"As a football player, Woodson is such a unique guy," Gruden said last week. "He can stand in there and play man-to-man, old-school bump-and-run coverage with the best of them, and he will knock you out."

Angry Pope

04-06-2006, 10:16 AM

Jasper visiting the Eagles....

Jasper Spent First 2 Seasons With Eagles

Free agent defensive tackle Ed Jasper is visiting the Eagles on Thursday.

Jasper, a nine-year veteran, spent last season with the Oakland Raiders. He played in 15 games, starting one, and finished with two sacks.

The 33-year-old Jasper (6-2, 295) enjoyed his most productive seasons with the Atlanta Falcons, for whom he played six seasons. After recording a career high 3½ sacks as a reserve in 2000 and 2001, Jasper started on the Falcons’ defensive line for the next three seasons and had a combined seven sacks.

The Eagles are in need of a defensive tackle to bolster their defensive line, which struggled last season to stop the run and pressure the quarterback. Last month, the Eagles bolstered their pass rush by signing veteran defensive end Darren Howard.

Jasper spent his first two NFL seasons with the Eagles, who drafted him in the sixth round in 1997.

--Andy Schwartz

Angry Pope

04-06-2006, 10:40 AM

Ed Jasper....

Eagles, DT Jasper agree to one-year contract

Len Pasquarelli

Unrestricted defensive tackle Ed Jasper, who played 15 games for the Oakland Raiders in 2005, is headed back to the franchise with which he began his NFL career.

The nine-year veteran has agreed to a one-year contract with the Philadelphia Eagles, who chose him in the sixth round of the 1997 draft. The deal, which is expected to be officially executed on Thursday, includes a $40,000 signing bonus and $710,000 base salary.

Jasper, 33, will provide more depth to a well-stocked tackle position, which already includes veterans Darwin Walker, Hollis Thomas, Sam Rayburn and Mike Patterson.

His addition could allow the Eagles to part with Thomas, a veteran run-stuffer who has asked to be traded because of a contractual dispute. In re-joining the Eagles, after an absence of seven seasons, Jasper is returning to a scheme that is a nice fit with his skills set and is more conducive to his success. Defensive coordinator Jim Johnson likes to rotate a lot of tackles, and Jasper should maximize his production by not having to play as many snaps.

The former Texas A&M standout played two seasons in Philadelphia but was released following the 1998 campaign, and signed with the Atlanta Falcons in 1999. Jasper became a starter with the Falcons and, for six seasons, was a stalwart performer on the team's defensive front and a strong leader in the locker room. But following the Falcons' disappointing loss at Philadelphia in the 2004 NFC title game, Jasper hinted at retirement, and Atlanta released him shortly thereafter.

Jasper signed a one-year deal with the Raiders last spring, appeared in 15 games, and registered 24 tackles and two sacks, appearing mostly as the team's No. 3 tackle.

In 118 games, including 60 starts, Jasper has 247 tackles, 17 sacks, six forced fumbles and four recoveries.

Angel

04-06-2006, 11:03 AM

I remember Jasper!! :p

Rupert

04-06-2006, 11:46 AM

Jasper is a good guy to have on the bench. He provided good depth and solid production at the 3 and 5 technique spots. He was not spectacular, but off the bench you could count on him to be solid. I hate to see him go, but it has to mean we've got something in mind for depth. With Brayton and Irons moving back to DE we'll most likely see Kelly at the 3 off the bench or moving in and out and rotating with Brayton, Irons and Sapp.

We still need a guy to spell Burgess, and maybe Brayton and Irons will be called on to do that as well, but I'm certain Raiders fans would like to see a guy with a little more burst than anyone else we've seen so far. Maybe Riddle is the guy, or maybe Sam Williams will get the shot Al Davis thought he should get with his hand on the ground. Many possibilities.

Raiders_Rock

04-06-2006, 11:33 PM

Yea - I'll miss the depth we had with Jasper - we could rotate him in and out and he'd play some solid D.

Our depth at line is disturbingly thin....we lost Ted and Jasper, and I hear there are concerns about Sapp's health

Rupert

04-07-2006, 12:21 AM

Well, we'll see if there is, when the Raiders draft a DT.

Angry Pope

04-07-2006, 12:42 AM

Burgess talked to Jasper about the Eagles...

Defensive tackle wanders back to the flock

EAGLES' OFFSEASON. Ed Jasper, drafted by the Birds in 1997, returns to the nest.

Friday, April 07, 206
By NICK FIERRO

The nine-year veteran defensive tackle had the Eagles at the top of his extremely short list from the moment he became a free agent, thanks to rave reviews provided from former Oakland Raiders teammate Derrick Burgess.

So the 33-year-old Jasper wasted little time signing a one-year contract once he cleared his physical. This fall will mark his second tour of duty with the Eagles, who originally drafted him out of Texas A& M in 1997. Jasper played two seasons for the Eagles before joining the Atlanta Falcons, where he stayed for six seasons before moving to Oakland last year.

"I had opportunities somewhere else at the time," he said about leaving Philadelphia. "Now my opportunity is to come back here and try to win a championship. That's what everybody wants. True, it took me seven years of wandering around to realize that, but I will take a ring where I can get it."

Jasper has appeared in 118 games, 60 as a starter. He has collected 402 tackles, 17½ sacks, five forced fumbles and nine fumble recoveries.

Particularly appealing to him is defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's rotation system, which consists of four players sharing the two inside spots in the 4-3.

"For me, that's great," Jasper said. "I spent a lot of years in Atlanta playing almost every snap. The problem with playing every snap is you can't play 110 percent every play if you play every snap. If you have someone to rotate with, who will come in and play just as good as you do, it makes all the difference in the world. It makes your defensive line a better line."

Although Jasper spent most of his career as a nose tackle in a 3-4, this defense will not be much of an adjustment for him.

"There's different ways you can play a 3-4," he said. "You can play a gap-control 3-4 or a two-gap 3-4. In Atlanta, we played a gap-control 3-4, which is almost the same technique as playing in a 4-3 because you're playing (off the center). When you play in the two-gap, you just take the big (offensive linemen) and hold them off the line, hold them up, let everybody else make the plays.

"I'm not a two-gap guy, for sure."

And he's not ready for retirement, which he briefly thought about after last season. Jasper reconsidered because he didn't want to fade away into obscurity.

"I think, more than anything, it's just will," he said. "No one remembers guys that just played. The guys that are remembered are the guys that win championships. No matter how good you were when you played and no matter what else you had done, if you didn't win, then no one knows how good you were."

Angry Pope

04-10-2006, 04:37 PM

Terdy signed....

The Oakland Raiders have re-signed restricted free agent DT Terdell Sands (Raiders) to an undisclosed contract.

CrossBones

04-10-2006, 05:00 PM

Terdy signed....Terdy? LOL. That's a good one!

Rupert

04-10-2006, 05:47 PM

Terdy. That's nice. Sounds like the kid next door. As opposed to the less than flattering Pound Sand(s).

Nice signing though, kid was coming on as the season progressed. He's not the rock Washington was, but few are. Still he learned a lot and if he trains properly should hold up well over the season.

Angel

04-11-2006, 06:34 AM

Terdy signed....
Gotta love that name huh? :p

Angry Pope

04-12-2006, 12:54 PM

Here is some information on Keith Adams....

Jordan Woy, the agent for free agent linebacker Keith Adams, said five teams remain in the mix to sign the veteran, including the Redskins. Washington is not the front-runner at this point, according to sources with knowledge of the situation, but has maintained interest and brought Adams in for a visit Friday.

Adams also has visited Arizona, Oakland and Carolina, according to sources, but thus far has been seeking a signing bonus exceeding what Washington is offering. The Redskins have been looking to sign experienced players for close to the veteran minimum, as they did with free agent cornerback Kenny Wright recently, and have kept the lines of communication open with free agent linebacker Warrick Holdman as well.

Woy said that Adams expects to make a decision on his new team in the next day or two. The Redskins are $3.8 million under the salary cap, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

CrossBones

04-12-2006, 03:21 PM

AP - What do you think of this guy. We need some LB help.

Angry Pope

04-12-2006, 03:38 PM

I think he would be a nice signing. That would give us two LBs with speed plus what we get in the draft. Help us protect the middle of the field along with, hopefully a SS.

Angry Pope

04-12-2006, 03:42 PM

We signed Lance Johnstone....

Johnstone agrees to two-year deal with Raiders

Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

Ten-year veteran defensive end Lance Johnstone, one of the NFL's best situational pass rushers over the course of his career and certainly one of the top players remaining in the unrestricted free-agent market, on Wednesday reached a contract agreement with the Oakland Raiders, ESPN.com has learned.

Johnstone

The deal, for two years, returns Johnstone to the franchise with which he originally began his NFL career, as a second-round choice in the 1996 draft. Financial details were not immediately available.

Johnstone, 32, played five seasons with the Raiders (1996-2000) and then signed with the Minnesota Vikings, for whom he played five years (2001-05). Minnesota had made what was believed to be a one-year offer in an effort to retain Johnstone, and the veteran pass rusher also generated interest from several other clubs as well.

Securing a proven pass-rusher like Johnstone, who posted 7½ sacks in 2005, should provide the Raiders some intriguing possibilities on third down. Oakland already boasts the 2005 league sack champion in right end Derrick Burgess, who had 16 quarterback takedowns last season, and will now be able to bring even more pressure off the edge.

The combination of Burgess and Johnstone attacking the pocket from opposite sides on third down figures to enhance the performance of both veteran ends. After Burgess, the Raiders didn't have any other defenders in 2005 with more than five sacks and no ends with more than two sacks.

In his 10 seasons in the league, Johnstone has registered 10 or more sacks four times, including 10 sacks in 2003 and 11 in 2004. The former Temple standout has posted five or more sacks in seven seasons. There has been no discernable dropoff in Johnstone's level of play or, more important, in his quickness, which is his forte.

Johnstone has appeared in 155 games, missing just five contests during his NFL tenure, and he has 380 tackles, 21 forced fumbles, five fumble recoveries and two interceptions.

Angry Pope

04-12-2006, 03:44 PM

Welcome home Lance! That helps.

EDIT: Now maybe Lance helps us while rotating with Mario?

Rupert

04-12-2006, 04:45 PM

Man this is an excellent acquisition from two perspectives. Not only does it give us an additional pass rusher on 3rd downs and when up by double digits late in a game (yeah right), but it gives us a credible backup for Burgess should he go down to injury. It also solidifies the DL and allows us to focus on other positions with the #1 pick.

However, it really doesn't change anything when it comes to draft day. Al knows who he wants and will do whatever he has to to get him. It would allow us to look at OT or OLB or S instead of chasing after Williams. The more sure-fire a prospect Williams is, and the more I think about it, the more likely it is that the Raiders won't try to draft him.

Bah! Who knows anything for certain when it comes to the Raiders draft strategy?

eastcoastraider

04-12-2006, 04:47 PM

Wow that is a good signing. I am hesitant to say great only because of his age, which is an eternity in the NFL. Very Durable though I actually like it:) :D But I wanted to let you guys know that you all sound very informed. I like that. That is what brought me from another site where all they wanted to do was trash each other, no real info.

Rupert

04-12-2006, 06:20 PM

Welcome aboard eastcoastraider! When it comes to digging up the info, I've never met anyone better than our man Benedict or our lady Angel. This is a one stop shop for the AFC West.

CrossBones

04-12-2006, 06:55 PM

Welcome Eastcoastraider. We're happy you found us. Jump right in and let us know how you feel about things in Raiderland.

As Rupert points out, our Angry Pope and Angel will keep you better informed than ESPN. :D

As for the Lance Johnston signing, it really caught me by surprise and it came (in typical Raider fashion) from left field. It's a good insurance poilicy and gives us some flexibility. To me that kinda say we're not breaking the bank for Super Mario but then we're talking the Raiders here so who knows. It's interesting that on the same day we brought A.J. Hawk in for a personal interview! Very interesting.

Raiders_Rock

04-12-2006, 09:21 PM

Johnstone is a solid signing - now we have rushers from both ends, and Johnstone can rush the passer with more consistency than Burgess

Angry Pope

04-12-2006, 10:17 PM

Eastcoastraider...welcome to the forum.

RaiderIVlife

04-13-2006, 09:28 AM

Angel

04-13-2006, 10:12 AM

Welcome aboard eastcoastraider! When it comes to digging up the info, I've never met anyone better than our man Benedict or our lady Angel. This is a one stop shop for the AFC West.
Thanks Rupert.....and CB.....been having some slow news days lately......but I think AP and I do the best we can!! :)

Angry Pope

04-13-2006, 10:59 AM

It appears that Keith Adams will make a decision today...I believe that he spent the night talking with the Panthers....we shall see...

As Manning moves toward the door, a player with a shot at the starting lineup could walk in. Former Clemson standout Keith Adams is expected to make a decision today. According to his agent, Jordan Woy, the Philadelphia linebacker visited the Panthers Sunday and Monday.

The 5-foot-11, 223-pound Adams would likely be given an opportunity to start here, but at which position remains to be seen.

Rupert

04-13-2006, 11:50 AM

I'd still prefer to draft Mario Williams. Imagine a DE rotation of Williams, Burgess, Hamilton (run downs) and Johnstone? Whoa Nellie !!!!

Throw in a roving Tommy Kelly and IFFF Warren Sapp has anthing left in the proverbial tank, this 'D' will be able to generate consistent pressure with the front-4. How novel would that be?

This could/should also mask our deficiency at OLB and Safety.

Good signing.

I totally agree. We've got Brayton and Irons supposedly back at DE, so it's not urgent to get Williams, but there is no-one with his potential on the roster. Hamilton is likely to ride his contract into the sunset. He's a great guy to have on the roster, and both he and Burgess would do wonders for the development of a guy like Williams. Imagine the consumate 3-4 end and last year's sack leader tutoring a guy who could be both wrapped up in one? Out-freaking-standing. Do it Al, DO IT!

Drafting Williams would allow us to throw Kelly inside where his ability to defeat blockers would be put several steps closer to the ball. Do it Al, DO IT!

It's not every year you get to draft a freakishly talented disruptive force on the DL. This guy isn't an undersidzed Jason Taylor, or a 3-4-type end, he's a Reggie White-kind of guy who has the size to be 3-4 with the pass rushing ability of an elephant backer (old term for what became the rush end). Do it Al, DO IT!

Does he lack the fire? It doesn't sound like it, but if he does, shove a firecracker up his ass and light it every play. Eventually, he'll blow up. ;)

In other words, do it Al, DO IT!

CrossBones

04-13-2006, 12:05 PM

I was listening to Mel Kiper (yeah I know) yesterday on ESPN radio and he said that over the years the one position that has been the biggest flop in the draft (high) is defensive end and then defensive tackle.

Makes some sense in that a college DE is rarely if ever facing an NFL quality OT etc. So their numbers and pure power are somewhat overrated. But how else can they be graded.

Anyway for what's it's worth that is what they were talking about.

From what I have seen, however, Williams has all the tool and measurables to be a success. When you consider that 50% of 1st round draft picks flop I guess a guy like Williams would be worth the gamble. DE like Mario don’t grow on trees. How it’ll all translate in the pros is 'ya know...``the mother of all crap shoots". ;)

I still have this feeling Al wants to move up and make a big splash and get the Raiders in the headlines. You know Al.

Angry Pope

04-13-2006, 12:21 PM

Rupert

04-13-2006, 12:21 PM

Without question. You just had to watch Mario to see both the techniques and the athleticism. He was a little too aggressive and could be fooled, but hell those things get dialed out with time and schooling. The natural abilities and aggressiveness are MUCH harder to dial in.

Angry Pope

04-13-2006, 01:24 PM

Keith Adams....

Panthers sign linebacker Adams

April 13, 2006

The Carolina Panthers have signed unrestricted free agent linebacker Keith Adams from the Philadelphia Eagles, the team announced Thursday.
Adams, 27, started 16 games for Philadelphia in 2005 and recorded a career-high 101 tackles. He also added 18 special teams tackles after ranking second on the Eagles with 24 special teams tackles in 2004 and leading the team with 30 in 2003.

Originally a seventh-round draft choice by Tennessee in 2001, Adams (5-11, 223 pounds) played his rookie year with Dallas before being claimed off waivers by Philadelphia midway through the 2002 campaign. In five NFL seasons, he has played in 67 regular season games with 23 starts and has posted 185 tackles, three passes defensed, and three forced fumbles.

Raiders_Rock

04-13-2006, 04:15 PM

well there goes another FA that could have helped us

Rupert

04-13-2006, 04:41 PM

I hear what you're saying RR, but once I saw his height and weight, I knew we weren't going to sign him. 5-11 233? That's a problem the front office can't get over. With TE's getting taller every day, a physical mismatch like that won't fly on the Raiders defense. I'm not saying he couldn't have helped us, I'm just saying he'd have been special teams at best, and why not bring in a kid who's 6-2 240 to do that?

Right or wrong, that's the Raider way.

Angry Pope

04-13-2006, 05:59 PM

Homesite has it up now...

Back in (Silver and) Black

April 13, 2006

The Oakland Raiders have signed free agent defensive end Lance Johnstone, the team announced. Johnstone, originally selected by the Raiders in the second round of the 1996 NFL Draft, spent the past five seasons with the Minnesota Vikings.

The former Temple University standout has chalked up 70 quarterback sacks during his 10-year NFL career. During his first tour of duty with the Silver and Black, the 6'4", 250-pounder played in 92 games and amassed 29 sacks with a career-high of 11 in 1998.

During his five seasons with the Vikings, Johnstone suited up for 79 league games and tallied 41 quarterback takedowns. He matched his single-season career-high of 11 in 2004.

In all, Johnstone has played in 155 league games and also has two interceptions, five fumble recoveries, has scored four defensive touchdowns, and has recorded four seasons with at least 10 sacks.

Angry Pope

04-15-2006, 11:53 AM

Here is something on LJ....

Nostalgia being what it is in Oakland these days, the Raiders reached into their recent past with the re-acquisition of defensive end Lance Johnstone.

Johnstone's signing gives Oakland a bookend situational pass rusher to go along with Derrick Burgess, the free-agent prize of 2005 who led the NFL in sacks with 16.

Johnstone, 32, was drafted by the Raiders out of Temple in the second round in 1996. His selection represented a victory for the scouting department and the judgment of Al Davis, given that Johnstone had played primarily as a stand-up linebacker in a perennially poor college program.

With the Raiders, Johnstone wore a linebacker's number — 51 — but was converted to a rush end at 6-foot-4 and generously listed at 250 pounds.

Johnstone's playing time increased in 1997, when he batted down five passes and had 3 1/2 sacks, and he blossomed in the next two seasons with 21 sacks in two years.

Following the 1999 season, the Raiders awarded Johnstone with a seven-year contract extension, which would have been worth $35 million had it reached its conclusion.

But the Raiders coaching staff also wanted Johnstone bigger to avoid wearing down at the end of the season. Johnstone returned with an expanded waistline, remained comparatively slender everywhere else, and battled injuries while posting just 3 1/2 sacks. He lost his starting position to free agent Regan Upshaw.

Oakland opted to waive Johnstone rather than pay a scheduled bonus, and instead opted for Miami defensive end Trace Armstrong, who led the NFL in sacks with 16 1/2.

The end result was not satisfying for the Raiders. Armstrong suffered a torn Achilles' tendon and never played a major role for the Raiders.

Johnstone, however, signed with Minnesota as a free agent and found the fast indoor track of the Metrodome to his liking. He had 41 sacks in five seasons — giving him 70 for his career.

Although not likely to start, the Raiders believe Johnstone can give them an additional push on passing downs working opposite Burgess. Bobby Hamilton and Tommy Kelly, both players who are strong at the point of attack, remain on the roster.

Angry Pope

04-15-2006, 12:01 PM

Some more on Johnstone.....

With four defensive touchdowns — three as a Raider and one with Minnesota — Lance Johnstone's career total equals the combined total of defensive touchdowns for all defenders on the Oakland roster.

Newly acquired cornerback Duane Starks returned interceptions for touchdowns with Baltimore and Arizona, Warren Sapp had an interception return for a touchdown as a Tampa Bay rookie, and safety Jarrod Cooper recovered a fumble in the end zone for a touchdown last season.

Angry Pope

04-17-2006, 11:15 AM

Lance Johnstone's contract is for two years with salary of $1 million each year.

Angel

04-17-2006, 04:06 PM

Too many LJ's in the AFC West now!! :p

Angry Pope

04-18-2006, 03:29 PM

We signed this player....

73 Cameron Spikes, Guard

Height: 6' 4"
Weight: 313 lbs.
College: Texas A&M
Born: in
Acquired: Unrestricted Free Agent, (Arizona) 2005
Pro Year: 7th
Year with Broncos: 1st
NFL Games Played/Started: 63/30
Postseason: 1/0

SPIKES AT A GLANCE:

• A seventh-year guard who has developed into a reliable starter over the last two seasons.
• Started all 16 games at left guard for Arizona in 2003 before playing all 16 games with nine starts (8 at right guard, 1 at left guard) with the team in 2004.
• Started the final five games at left guard for Houston in 2002 during its inaugural season.
• Played mostly as a reserve in his first three seasons with St. Louis and saw time on special teams in Super Bowl XXXVI vs. New England to mark his only career playoff action.
• Named first-team All-Big 12 Conference and honorable mention All-American (The Sports Network) as a senior at Texas A&M, starting every game at left guard.
• Joined the Broncos as a unrestricted free agent May 23, 2005.
• Selected by St. Louis in the fifth round (145th overall) of the 1999 NFL Draft.

CAREER TRANSACTIONS: Signed by St. Louis as a draft choice (1999); Waived by St. Louis 8/25/02; Claimed off waivers by Houston 8/26/02; Signed by Arizona as an unrestricted free agent 3/28/03; Signed by Denver as an unrestricted free agent 5/23/05.

2004: Spikes played all 16 games for Arizona in 2004, starting eight contests at right guard and one game at left guard. He opened the year as the starter at right guard for the Cardinals in their first three games. Spikes started at right guard vs. N.O. (10/3) but was replaced by Jeremy Bridges in the first quarter. He returned to the starting lineup at Det. (12/5) as the Cardinals’ starting right guard. He stayed at that position for the next two games before switching to left guard after a knee injury to left tackle Leonard Davis led to the shuffling of the offensive line for the season finale vs. T.B. (1/2).

2003: Spikes was signed by Arizona as an unrestricted free agent (Houston) on March 28 and was a 16-game starter at left guard in his first season with the Cardinals. His blocking helped Marcel Shipp gain a team-high 830 rushing yards on the year. Spikes suffered a broken thumb at Pit. (11/9) but did not miss any playing time as a result of the injury.

2002: Spikes was claimed off waivers by Houston on Aug. 27 after St. Louis waived him late in the preseason. He played 12 games (5 starts) for the Texans during their inaugural year, starting at left guard for the final five weeks of the season. He recovered quarterback David Carr’s fumble vs. Bal. (12/15).

2001: Spikes played five regular-season games (0 starts) as a reserve lineman and on special teams for St. Louis. His only action on the offensive line came at the N.Y. Jets (10/21). He was inactive for the first two playoff games but appeared on special teams in Super Bowl XXXVI vs. N.E. (2/3).

2000: Spikes played nine games (0 starts) for St. Louis, seeing limited action as a reserve offensive lineman and on special teams. He came off the bench for injured right tackle Ryan Tucker in the second half vs. Atl. (10/15). He again relieved Tucker at K.C. (10/22) in a game in which he also saw time at left guard in place of Tom Nutten. He played at right tackle in the first quarter vs. Car. (11/5) after Tucker shifted to left tackle in place of injured starter Orlando Pace. He did not play in the final seven games of the season as well as the Rams’ NFC Wild Card Game vs. N.O. (12/30).

1999: Selected by St. Louis in the fifth round (145th overall) of the 1999 NFL Draft, Spikes appeared in five regular-season games for the Rams as a rookie and played primarily on special teams. He made his NFL debut at Atl. (10/17) as a reserve lineman. He was inactive for all three playoff contests.

COLLEGE: Spikes was a three-year start at Texas A&M, earning honorable mention All-America and first-team All-Big 12 Conference accolades from The Sports Network as a senior. He started every game at left guard, helping the Aggies gain 4,056 yards in his final year with the school while not allowing a sack. As a junior, Spikes started 11 games at right tackle and cleared the way for A&M to gain 2,465 yards rushing. Spikes became a starter at right tackle as a sophomore after playing as a reserve right tackle as a true freshman.

PERSONAL: Spikes was an all-state defensive lineman at Bryan High School in Bryan, Texas. He studied agricultural economics at Texas A&M and was married in the summer 2005 (wife Kristina). Cameron Spikes was born Nov. 6, 1976, in Madisonville, Texas.

Spikes' Regular Season Record

Year Club G S
1999 St. Louis 5 0
2000 St. Louis 9 0
2001 St. Louis 15 15
2002 Houston 12 5
2003 Arizona 16 16
2004
Arizona
16
9

2005
Denver

Career Totals 73 30

ADDITIONAL STATISTICS: Miscellaneous tackles — 2003 (1), TOTAL (1). Recovered a fumble (QB David Carr) vs. Bal. 12/15/02.

Spikes' Postseason Record

Year Club G S

2001 St. Louis 1 0

Career Totals 1 0

Angry Pope

04-18-2006, 03:33 PM

NFL Draft: Cameron Spikes, Offensive Lineman

Texas A&M 6:02.7-310 Bryan, Texas

Physical drive blocker who moved inside to guard as a senior to take advantage of his power and quickness...Very quick for a player his size...Recently timed at 5.02 in the 40-yard dash...Has a sturdy lower body & thick arms which allows him to consistently deliver punishing initial blocks off the snap...Has the speed to fly downfield & nail linebackers...Maintains proper angle techniques retreating in pass protection...Creates tremendous movement off the ball, showing the flexibility to make contact at the opposite end of the field.

1998 Season...All-American honorable mention & All-Big Twelve Conference first-team selection by The Sports Network...Started every game at left guard, leading the down linemen with an 85.4% grade for blocking consistency & 89 knockdowns as the Aggie offense gained 4056 yards...Did not allow a quarterback sack.

Louisiana Tech...Posted eight knockdowns & opened a hole used by fullback D’Andre Hardeman for a 10-yard touchdown run as the team gained 210 rushing yards.

Southern Mississippi...Dropped a pair of defenders upfield to clear away the final obstacle on a 44-yard scoring scamper by Dante Hall.

Nebraska...Posted 10 knockdowns, including one that leveled defensive end Mike Rucker on an 81-yard touchdown bomb from QB Randy McCown to Chris Taylor as the offense generated 352 yards in a 28-21 decision.

Oklahoma...His cut block on defensive tackle Kelly Gregg allowed QB Branndon Stewart to sneak into the end zone for a 6-yard score.

Kansas State (Big Twelve Championship)...Had a season-high 14 knockdowns, taking down linebacker Jeff Kelly on a 13-yard scoring pass from Stewart to Leroy Hodge & came up with the game-winning block in overtime that gave Stewart time to find Sirr Parker with a 32-yard touchdown toss in a 36-33 victory.

1997 Season...Started 11 games at right tackle, earning an 83.3% grade as he came up with 66 knockdowns for an offense that gained 2465 yards rushing.

Colorado...Brought down outside linebacker Brandon Southward on a 1-yard scoring plunge by tailback Sirr Parker as the Aggies gained 260 rushing yards.

Oklahoma State...Picked up the blitz, blocking safety R.W. McQuarters on QB Branndon Stewart’s 25-yard touchdown pass to Chris Cole & then opened a hole for D’Andre Hardeman’s game-winning 6-yard scoring run in overtime to give the Aggies a 28-25 triumph.

Oklahoma...Cleared holes for touchdown runs of 1 yard by Hardeman & 2 yards by Dante Hall as the offense picked up 405 yards.

1996 Season...Started every game at right tackle...Collected 51 knockdowns & graded 80.5%for blocking consistency as the offense averaged 404.5 yards-per-game.

Brigham Young...Executed a cut block that brought down defensive end Derek Yancy on a 57-yard touchdown bomb from Branndon Stewart to Aaron Oliver as the Aggies gained 489 yards.

Kansas State...Had seven knockdowns, dropping defensive tackle Jerome Evans at the goal line on a 1-yard scoring plunge by D’Andre Hardeman.

Oklahoma...Shoved aside defensive end Travian Smith to clear a path used by Hardeman for a 3-yard touchdown run as the team rushed for 188 yards.

1995 Season...Played in every game as a true freshman, lining up behind Hunter Goodwin at right tackle.

Agility Test Results...5.02 in the 40-yard dash...Bench presses 410 pounds.

High School...Earned Class 5A All-State honors as a defensive lineman during his final season at Bryan (Tex.) High...Added USA Today All-American honorable mention as he recorded 90 tackles, including an incredible 48 stops behind the line of scrimmage while compiling 20 sacks & 31 quarterback pressures in 1994.

Personal...Agricultural Economics major...Son of Mary & Jerry Spikes...Born Cameron Wade Spikes on 11/06/76...Resides in Bryan, Texas.

Angry Pope

04-18-2006, 03:53 PM

We also signed this player...

I am not sure if this is the Joe Hall...

Joe Hall, FB - Kansas State

Hall by the numbers

Ht: 6'0"
Wt: 293
40-time: 4.79
Bench press: 435

Positives: Heavy-boned, but distributes his weight well…Has a sudden burst off the snap, using his veer moves to make the initial tackler miss…Shows the field vision to avoid contact…Runs with good body lean…Secures the ball before heading upfield…Makes proper body adjustments to get to the off-target passes…Despite his size, he is quite nimble going through the holes.

Negatives: Needs to get in a proper nutrition program to control his weight (was as high as 344 pounds in 2001)…Despite his size and power, he tries to finesse defenders too much rather than powering through his runs to drag the pile…Sat out the 2000 season as he refused to go to classes…Had a minor off-field problem in 1999 (arrested for possession of alcohol)…Takes quite a few plays off, losing interest when he is not directly involved in the action.

CAREER NOTES: The world's largest halfback, Joe played the season between 290-300 pounds after weighing as much as 344 pounds in the offseason…Joined the KSU program after a stellar career at Palomar Junior College…Gained 864 yards on 160 carries (5.4 avg) with nine touchdowns in 19 games for the Wildcats.

PERSONAL: Social Science major…Son of Joe and Evon Hall...Born 11/03/79…Resides in Lakewood, California.

Angry Pope

04-18-2006, 03:53 PM

From 2003...

It's hard to ignore Joe Hall

By Jason Whitlock | Jul 23, 2003

The Chiefs have the best running back in football, two potential Hall of Famers on their offensive line, a Hall of Fame tight end, a munchkin wide receiver with swivel and quicks and the game's most feared playbook.

So why do I come to practice every day and lock in on Joe Hall, an anonymous free agent with a checkered past?

It's impossible to take your eyes off Joe Hall. Come up here and try it. You can find him anywhere, during any drill. Special teams, stretching, blitz pick-up. I swear I heard Joe Hall's footsteps when I was sitting in the port-a-potty.

Joe Hall is everywhere. Meet him and you instantly think NFL player. He's 6 feet 1, 300 pounds, extra wide shoulders, barrel chest, tattoos decorate his forearms. He looks like guard Brian Waters' younger brother.

Hall is impossible to ignore because he wears No. 46, lines up in the backfield and turns the corner like Tony Stewart's ChevyXXX.

There's a good chance Hall won't even make the team. He plays the same position as Tony Richardson, the Chiefs' picture-perfect fullback. T-Rich is backed up by Omar Easy, a talented second-year player.

Joe Hall has so much talent it doesn't matter that the Chiefs don't have room for him. He could force Dick Vermeil and Carl Peterson to make room.

Cutting Joe Hall would be a tragedy.

"I told Joe Hall," Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders said, "that if he doesn't play in the NFL, there's only one person to blame. Joe Hall."

Kansas State fans realize Joe Hall could screw this up. He could have been the best Wildcats running back this side of Darren Sproles. Hall spent three years on K-State's campus as a football player and 2 1/2 years in Bill Snyder's doghouse.

No discipline. He didn't like to go to class, push away from the kitchen table, work out, accept coaching or advice. He ate, slept and wild-ed his way out of Snyder's backfield rotation, off the team and out of a bright NFL future.

In 19 games split over the 1999 and 2001 seasons, Hall rushed for 864 yards, nine TDs and earned a reputation as a problem child.

"It was a lot of immaturity factors," Hall said Tuesday. "It was the first time away from home. First time my father didn't have an actual grasp on me. I was only 19 years old, just acting out most of the time. Four years later I'm a totally different person. I finally know how to work hard."

And he's finally accepted the fact that he's a fullback. He rebelled at K-State because he says Snyder's coaching staff promised him he wouldn't have to play fullback. Hall fancied himself a 310-pound college tailback. He played tailback and power forward at 265 pounds in high school. He was a 280-pound tailback in junior college.

When he arrived in Manhattan tipping the scales at 300-plus pounds, K-State's coaches asked him to stick a hand in the dirt and learn how to be a lead blocker. Hall felt as if he was lied to.

"I grew up in a house where if somebody told me they were going to do something, they did it" Hall said. "It was a culture shock. It was something I'd never experienced before. I didn't know how to deal with it. So I did the best that I could, what I thought was right at the time. It was a total bonehead mistake."

Hall admits that part of the culture shock was his newfound freedom being away from his dad/best friend, Joe Hall Sr. Hall acknowledged that his bad-boy behavior was due to peer pressure.

"I conformed to what I thought was cool, and it got me in a lot of trouble" Hall said. "My mom cries when she hears people call me (a bad guy). She knows what they sacrificed to make me what I am. The things I did at Kansas State and things I've done in my life are not in my character. I'm not a bad guy."

Hall ended up missing the entire 2000 season and playing sparingly in 2001. He never got his weight or his behavior under control.

"I thought I was getting back at the people for telling me things were going to be a certain way," Hall said. "I ended up messing up myself. That's a childish act. I'm not a child anymore. I know that was the dumbest thing I could possibly do. I'm past it."

He signed a free-agent deal with the St. Louis Rams last off-season. The Rams cut him before training camp. Hall re-enrolled at K-State. He'd never completed his degree. Snyder told Hall that if he demonstrated any maturity and finished up his classwork, Snyder would use his connections to get Hall another NFL tryout.

Hall finished his schooling in April and signed a contract with the Chiefs on April 18. After getting down to 285 pounds during off-season conditioning, Hall reported to training camp pushing three bills and freely admitting he's not in top condition.

"He needs to lose 12 to 13 pounds," Dick Vermeil said. "It's all about maturity. There's no doubt he can play in the NFL. He can even be something special."

Hall said: "Me losing weight isn't a problem. As long as I'm working out, my weight isn't a problem."

The Chiefs aren't giving up on Hall. Vermeil said he sees signs of Hall maturing. Vermeil and Saunders believe Hall's hands are so soft and his feet so quick that he could double as the Chiefs' third tight end. The Chiefs want to make room for Joe Hall. Chiefs fans should pray that Hall has matured enough to seize this opportunity.

"I don't want to go home," Hall said. "If they say, `Well, we don't have a fullback spot so we want to try you at tight end,' then so be it. If they want to try me at defensive end, so be it. I'll do anything to stay on the team."

Angry Pope

04-18-2006, 03:54 PM

Joe Hall

Position: Fullback
College: Kansas State
Height: 6-0
Weight: 293
Hometown: Linwood, Calif.

ANALYSIS

Positives: Heavy-boned, but distributes his weight well … Has a sudden burst off the snap, using his veer moves to make the initial tackler miss … Shows the field vision to avoid contact … Runs with good body lean … Secures the ball before heading upfield … Makes proper body adjustments to get to the off-target passes … Despite his size, he is quite nimble going through the holes.

Negatives: Needs to get in a proper nutrition program to control his weight (was as high as 344 pounds in 2001) … Despite his size and power, he tries to finesse defenders too much rather than powering through his runs to drag the pile … Takes quite a few plays off, losing interest when he is not directly involved in the action … Runs too high in his stance and can be knocked off balance as he has a narrow leg base … Has the power, but rarely faces up to the defender as a blocker … Needs to show more commitment to improving himself, as he could be another Pete Johnson if he puts his mind to it.

CAREER NOTES

The world's largest halfback, Joe played the season between 290-300 pounds after weighing as much as 344 pounds in the off-season … Joined the KSU program after a stellar career at Palomar Junior College … Gained 864 yards on 160 carries (5.4 avg.) with nine touchdowns in 19 games for the Wildcats.

2001 SEASON

Played in 10 games, backing up Josh Scobey at halfback … Did not catch any passes, but finished fourth on the team with 39 carries for 251 yards (6.4 avg) and three touchdowns.

Southern California - Did not play (coach's decision).

New Mexico State - Gained 30 yards on nine tries.

Texas A&M - Carried seven times for 47 yards.

Kansas - Rushed three times for 14 yards and a 1-yard score.

Nebraska - Added 48 yards on eight attempts, including a 1-yard touchdown.

Louisiana Tech - Followed with three carries for 81 yards and a 2-yard score.

Missouri - Tacked on 22 yards on six runs.

Syracuse (Insight.com Bowl) - Had a 21-yard reception.

2000 SEASON

Did not play.

1999 SEASON

Appeared in nine games, starting vs. Texas-El Paso, Iowa State and Nebraska at fullback and vs. Oklahoma State, Baylor and Colorado at halfback … Led the team with 121 carries for 613 yards (5.1 avg.) and six touchdowns … Caught three passes for 39 yards (13.0 avg.).

JUNIOR COLLEGE

Attended Palomar (San Marcos, Calif.) College … Mission Conference Offensive Player of the Year and second-team All-State pick as a freshman (1997), rushing for 833 yards … State Offensive Player of the Year, first-team All-Mission Conference, first-team All-State and first-team All-American as a sophomore, rushing for 1,760 yards and 24 touchdowns in 1998.

AGILITY TESTS

4.79 in the 40-yard dash … 435-pound bench press … Right-handed.

HIGH SCHOOL

Three-year starter at Artesia (Lakewood, Calif.) High … Earned All-Suburban League honors for offense and defense as a junior and senior … First-team All-California Interscholastic Foundation (CIF) pick as a senior … Team MVP as a senior … Lettered four years in basketball, earning first-team All-CIF accolades in 1997 and first-team All-Suburban League honors (1995-97) … Scored 30 touchdowns as a senior.

PERSONAL

Social Science major … Son of Joe and Evon Hall … Born Nov. 3, 1979 … Resides in Lakewood, Calif.

Rupert

04-18-2006, 04:19 PM

Both sound like interesting acquisitions.

That's the only Joe Hall I can find reference to. I did say I wanted a blocking fullback. Geez! He's like fridge in the backfield AND can REALLY carry the rock. Outstanding! As if Foschi at 6-4 270 wasn't huge in the backfield.

Spikes could be worth something. If nothing else he'll push for starting time and be valuable depth.

Raiders_Rock

04-18-2006, 06:41 PM

Raiders | Not likely to trade up; may choose a quarterback if available
Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:36:40 -0700

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports it appears the Oakland Raiders will not trade up in the NFL Draft to select USC QB Matt Leinart or Texas QB Vince Young. However, it will be hard for them to pass on either one if they fall to the Raiders at No. 7. It's not known how the Raiders feel about Vanderbilt QB Jay Cutler.

RaiderIVlife

04-18-2006, 08:29 PM

I'm so sick and tired of all the pre-draft speculation. It's painfully obvious that the so-called experts, including us fans, have no freakin' clue what the Raiders will or won't do with this draft. These morons are throwing out every theory and possibility imaginable so that they can then claim to have been "right all along".

Rubbish - all of this shit.

CrossBones

04-18-2006, 08:33 PM

I'm ready to have the draft yesterday.

It's true that the speculation is running wild. Now the "experts" are saying Reggie Bush maybe not be a lock for the number one pick. That would be interesting. Sooner or later somebody is going to be right. LOL.

Angry Pope

04-19-2006, 02:48 PM

No surprises on thesalaries of the new guys. Mighty Joe signed for one year at $275,000 and Cameron Spikes signed for one year at $585,000.

Rupert

04-19-2006, 04:07 PM

No surprises on thesalaries of the new guys. Mighty Joe signed for one year at $275,000 and Cameron Spikes signed for one year at $585,000.
No shit "Mighty Joe". Dude talks about maturing. Let's see if he can get his weight down to 265. I'd tell him he could carry the rock in short yardage at 265. Of course, to prevent a meltdown, you'd have to back up your word.

Looks like Spikes is veteran depth at that salary, not potential starter. Of course Art won't rule anything out. Al, on the other hand, might. Still he let his highly paid acquisitions lose the starting job to Barry Sims, undrafted and earning a pittance, and didn't force his newly acquired 1st round choices (plural ladies and germs) to supplant Sims either.

Angry Pope

04-20-2006, 10:38 AM

Tongue....

Tongue considers retiring as he waits

By DANNY MARTIN

The phone hasn't rung lately for Reggie Tongue and no one has knocked on his door so hard that the hinges came off.

The Lathrop High School graduate, though, is prepared if no National Football League team offers him an opportunity to play strong safety for an 11th season.

"I'll probably go ahead and retire ... there's no need to sit around waiting," Tongue said Wednesday afternoon from his home in Redmond, Wash.

The desire to play is still there, as he recently told his agent, Vann McElroy of Houston, Texas.

"He wanted to know if I still wanted to play and I said 'Of course, I want to play,'" Tongue said. But it's been nearly 1 1/2 months since he heard from McElroy, a former NFL safety.

The 6-foot, 204-pounder is one of those competitive, hard-working athletes who desire a long career in the NFL.

There are many NFL players who would love to match, or exceed, the longevity of former Washington Redskins cornerback Darrell Green and San Francisco 49ers wide receiver Jerry Rice, who each spent 20 seasons in the league.

There are NFL players who are realistic, too, and the 33-year-old Tongue is among them.

"Those guys were fortunate to keep playing and teams kept calling them," Tongue said. Green spent his entire career as a Redskin while Rice also played for the Oakland Raiders and was in the Denver Broncos training camp when he announced his retirement last year.

"If nobody is calling me, I've got to move on," the former standout for Oregon State University said. "I've got to move on; it's a no-brainer. If nobody wants you, you just move on with life."

Moving on can be easier said than done after a career that has included four seasons each with the Kansas City Chiefs (1996-99) and Seattle Seahawks (2000-03), one season with the New York Jets (2004) and last season with the Raiders.

Unless Boise State left offensive tackle Daryn Colledge of North Pole goes in the first round or is a high second-round pick in next weekend's NFL Draft, Tongue's second-round, 58th-overall selection by the Chiefs in 1996 will also be the highest an Alaskan has been taken.

Tongue, though, sees his career as incomplete despite 690 tackles, 9.5 sacks, 15 interceptions (with three returned for touchdowns) and 13 forced fumbles. There is no Super Bowl ring on either of his hands and there's no Pro Bowl selection or All-Pro recognition.

"I'm extremely fortunate I played as long, played as hard and stayed as healthy as I did," said Tongue. "I try not to be greedy but I'm mad that I never made it to the Pro Bowl, even though there were a couple of years which it seemed I would, and I never had the chance to play for a (Super Bowl) ring.

"That will always bother me."

He was mad, too, last season when he sustained a season-ending injury to his left knee after playing only six games with the Raiders.

Tongue tore his anterior cruciate ligament while running downfield to attempt a tackle on a kickoff during a 33-21 home loss to the Miami Dolphins on Nov. 27. Tongue was trying to avoid a block by a Dolphin, but as he made a move and pushed off on his left foot, it went into an uneven part of the field, which he said may have been a hole.

The knee hyperextended, and Raiders trainers and medical staff confirmed it when they examined him on the sideline.

"They kept yanking on it and pushing it, and they asked me if I could jog on it," Tongue said. "I could walk on it, but not jog. Then they said it's definitely a torn ACL."

That was his first knee injury in the NFL--in his previous nine seasons, Tongue missed only three games because of injuries.

"It sucked," Tongue said of the knee injury. "All of a sudden, I get a fresh start with a different team ... it's crazy. It shows you how much something can happen and how much control you have over what happens."

It's a good description, too, of the waiting game he's playing.

Angry Pope

04-20-2006, 11:08 AM

We signed this player...

Bryant McNeal

Position: Defensive End/Linebacker
College: Clemson
Height: 6-4
Weight: 248
Hometown: Swansea, S.C.

ANALYSIS

Positives: Has a lean, tall, muscular frame … Quick off the snap and shows the ability to use his hands effectively to escape the cut blocks … Has good ball-reaction skills, dropping off in coverage quickly … Keeps his feet and strings plays wide with his lateral agility … Stays low in his pads and extends his arms properly to wrap and secure the ball carrier … Quick off the edge and does a good job of protecting his legs … Shows power in his upfield rush.

Negatives: Has struggled to maintain and add weight to his frame … A lack of bulk is the major reason he gets engulfed by the larger blockers … Little stiff in his straight-line charge, causing him to struggle when trying to locate the quarterback … Needs to play with better leverage as he gets cut too often … Inability to generate a power charge results in him getting washed out at the point of attack … Plays with his hand off the ground and may be better suited for linebacker due to his difficulty in adding weight.

CAREER NOTES

One of the top pass rushers in college football, the two-year starter has drawn comparisons to Miami Dolphins' Jason Taylor for his explosive burst off the line of scrimmage … A collegiate defensive end, he could shift to linebacker at the pro level … Recorded 156 tackles (89 solos) with 21 sacks for minus-147 yards and 34 stops for losses of 181 yards while also coming up with 46 quarterback pressures, 5 forced fumbles and 2 fumble recoveries as he started 25 of 48 games.

2002 SEASON

All-Atlantic Coast Conference second-team selection … Started all year at weakside defensive end … Recorded a career-high 64 tackles (40 solos) as he led the team with 8 sacks for minus-56 yards and 13 stops for losses of 66 yards … Had 14 quarterback pressures, 3 deflected passes and a fumble recovery.

Georgia - Scooped up a fumble and raced 55 yards for a touchdown, adding 4 tackles with a pair of pressures.

Louisiana Tech - Made 4 tackles with a pressure and deflected a pass.

Georgia Tech - Followed with 3 pressures, 2 stops behind the line of scrimmage, 5 tackles (3 solos) and a 4-yard sack.

Ball State - Had 5 tackles, 2 sacks for minus-16 yards and a pressure.

Virginia - Credited with a 10-yard sack, 6 tackles and a pressure.

Wake Forest - Totaled 6 solo tackles and a pressure.

Duke - Was in on 5 tackles (3 solos), including a stop for a 4-yard loss, 3 pressures and a pass deflection.

North Carolina - Registered 5 tackles (4 solos), a pressure and an 8-yard sack.

Maryland - Had another 5 tackles, adding a 10-yard sack, a pass break-up and a pair of stops behind the line of scrimmage.

South Carolina - Collected 7 tackles with a 5-yard sack and 2 stops for minus-6 yards.

2001 SEASON

Recipient of the Solid Rock Award, given to the team's most consistent down lineman … Started every game, finishing third in the ACC with 8 sacks (minus-51 yards), and tied for second in caused fumbles with 4 and ninth in stops for losses with 12 for minus-61 yards … Had 18 quarterback pressures and a pass deflection … Also recovered a fumble.

2000 SEASON

Played in every game, recording 23 tackles (10 solos) with 2 sacks for minus-13 yards and 3 stops for losses of 14 yards … Credited with 6 quarterback pressures and caused a fumble.

1999 SEASON

Named the team's Defensive Rookie of the Year … Played in every game as a reserve defensive end, recording 15 tackles (9 solos) with 3 sacks for minus-27 yards and 6 stops for losses of 40 yards … Credited with 8 quarterback pressures.

1998 SEASON

Redshirted as a freshman.

INJURY REPORT

No injuries reported.

CAMPUS AGILITY TESTS

4.6 in the 40-yard dash … 405-pound bench press … 560-pound squat … 340-pound power clean … 37-inch vertical jump … 9-foot-11 broad jump … 34¼-inch arm length … 10-inch hands … Right-handed … 15/22 Wonderlic score.

COMBINE AGILITY TESTS

ARM HAND TEST 40 20 10 225 VJ BJ SHUTTLE CONE

34 10¼ 18 4.88 2.87 1.69 22 34½ 9-9

HIGH SCHOOL

Attended Swansea (S.C.) High … Class 2A All-State and All-Region selection both his senior and junior seasons … North-South All Star game participant … Region Defensive Player of the Year … All-Area Lineman of the Year … Voted the team's Defensive Player of the Year … High School Sports Report Top 100 selection … SuperPrep honorable mention All-American … PrepStar All-American defensive lineman … Three-year letterman in basketball and one year letterman in track … Voted the basketball squad's MVP in his senior season … All-area in basketball his senior season as he averaged 12 points and 10 rebounds a game … Played for Coach Robert Maddox.

PERSONAL

Parks, Recreation and Tourism Management major … Comes from a large family (six brothers and five sisters) … All competed in basketball … Born Bryant A. McNeal on July 13, 1979 … Resides in Swansea, S.C.

Angry Pope

04-20-2006, 11:13 AM

McNeal was cut from Tampa Bay on 08.30.2005 and signed to the Seahawks practice squad on 12.30.2005.

Angry Pope

04-20-2006, 11:23 AM

We also signed Kelvin Garmon....(old article)

Huge Man, Big Plans

By Zac Jackson
March 31, 2004

Kelvin Garmon still doesn’t know if he’ll line up at left guard or right guard for the Browns this fall.

This much is for sure: He’ll be easy to find.

Garmon (listed at 6-foot-2, 350) isn’t just big. He’s gargantuan. And he arrived at Browns Headquarters Monday eager to do big things with his new team.

Garmon, a five-year veteran, signed a three-year deal with the Browns last week after spending the last season and a half with San Diego.

The Browns told Garmon they wanted a massive, powerful pulling guard to open holes and create running lanes for Lee Suggs and William Green. Garmon, impressed by the abilities of Suggs and Green and the Browns’ previous acquisitions of QB Jeff Garcia and FB Terelle Smith, feels Cleveland is the best place for him to take his career to the next level.

“I want to be a leader for the offensive line,” he said. “I want to be a guy they can lean on. My mentality on Sundays is pretty nasty. That’s the thing I want to bring to the offensive line here. It’s going to be a more aggressive offensive line. You want defenses to not want to play against you and that’s one thing I’ve always had. Nobody likes to get hit in the mouth on every play, no matter how tough they are.”

Garmon, 27, played under Browns defensive coordinator Dave Campo and defensive line coach Andre Patterson when Campo was the Cowboys’ head coach. He was traded to San Diego in October 2002 after starting the first five games of the season at right guard for Dallas. He started at left guard for the Chargers for the remainder of 2002 and all of 2003.

His respect for both Campo and Patterson—and his continued relationship with Patterson—played a big role in Garmon landing with the Browns. After visiting Browns Headquarters and also weighing an offer from Detroit, Garmon decided to heed Patterson’s advice.

“Coach Patterson called me every day,” Garmon said. “He said, ‘Kelvin, this system is for you. With this system you can be a premiere guard in this league.’

“I let him know what was going on with other teams. He let me know what was going on here and it worked out great.

“I felt if I got here (Cleveland), I was going to fit into the offense and the scheme that they run. Coach (Butch Davis) mentioned they want to get back to a guard pulling, and that’s what I do best.”

Garmon will marry Megan Peterson, whom he met in his second year at Baylor, in Dallas this Saturday. After honeymooning in Cancun, he’ll return to Cleveland and rejoin his teammates in the Browns’ offseason conditioning program April 17th.

Rupert

04-20-2006, 12:20 PM

Not surprising that we pick up another player the NFL has dropped from its list of players. McNeal might be worth something as a backer. I would guess that's why we signed him. But then again, we are short of pass rushing DE's. :rolleyes:

Angry Pope

04-20-2006, 03:07 PM

McNeal is one year $385,000 and Garmon is one year $585,000.

Here is a short article on Garmon...

Raiders sign mammoth guard

By: Nicholas Hunter

Date: Apr 20, 2006

The Oakland Raiders supplied much needed depth to their offensive line on Thursday when they signed Kelvin Garmon, a hulking 350-pound lineman who has plenty of starts under his belt.

Kelvin Garmon was originally a 7th round draft pick by the Dallas Cowboys in the 1999 draft from Baylor University.
He has started in 50 games since first getting playing time with the Boys in 2001. Since then, Garmon has been seen in San Diego and Cleveland.

He played well in San Diego but struggled through injuries in Cleveland and was termed a dissapointment.

Surprisingly agile for his weight, the 6-foot-2 Garmon will look to add not only bulk but also skill to the Raiders line.

Terms of the deal were not immediately available.

RaiderIVlife

04-20-2006, 05:51 PM

CrossBones

04-20-2006, 06:32 PM

Clearly the Raiders are banking heavily on Art Shell and Jackie Slater having a big impact with this offensive line. Personally, I think it's a big gamble because the "talent cupboard" appears pretty damn bare IMHO.

Robert Gallery and Jake Grove need to show me something in 2006.....'Ya know, I don't know who is to blame for the debacle on the offensive line. I put much of the blame on Norv Turner for not putting his foot down when all the musical chairs started. It appears we're going to do now (two years late) what should have been done right at the start of the 2004 season .. Gallery at LT, Sims at LG, Grove at center, Walker at RT and ???? at RG. We fucked it up and in the process did who knows how much damage to the psyche of these young players and Turner let it happen. :mad:

I believe Art Shell will get this OL squared away. We stil need help at guard IMO and I hope we can address that in the draft on day one (second or third round).

I believe these players were so frustrated and confused that they never were able to settle in and play without wondering what was coming next and tot wsome extent I thingk they quit on the coaching staff. That friggin' zone blocking scheme was a horrible mistake. I think Art will get back to basics and play smash mouth football. That all starts with the OL. We'll see.

gst8

04-21-2006, 11:47 AM

Rupert

04-21-2006, 12:22 PM

Anyone who's been around me long enough knows I hate the "natural position" B.S. It's an absolute crock of shit. If you're an athlete you should be able to play anywhere on the line. Period. If you can't then you're nothing more than someone playing out of habit.

What if a player wasn't asked to play certain techniques in college? Are we going to have zone blockers and man blockers now? So-and-so is a zone left guard, don't draft him if you use a man scheme and need him on the right side? Jeezus H my friends.

I don't know why we've forgotten how our OL got screwed so quickly. We went from a man scheme to a zone scheme. The zone scheme requires quite a bit more precision from the line as a whole. It requires more reading and reacting than the traditional man scheme. It's a lateral scheme that requires bucket/drop steps.

The scheme can be overloaded against inexperienced lines, and teams did that to us frequently last season. In fact, I didn't see defenses trying to overload veteran zone teams as often as they tried against us for one simple reason. The vets knew how to handle the overload often only letting one guy loose. Overloading the Raiders often resulted in jailbreaks on the overloaded side. Teams were just doing what worked.