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jatfly
12-16-2008, 09:03 AM
I snagged the transcripts from another site since I missed the whole interview but check it out....

SIRIUS Host, Pat Kirwan:
"What do the Raiders have to do? We have a lot of Raider listeners who want to hear what Tim Brown thinks has to get done there."


Tim Brown: "Obviously, it would be great to see these guys play with some heart and some passion the rest of the year and finish out the year on a good note but quickly in the off-season Mr. Davis has to make a decision on Coach Cable and I just don't believe that he's going to be able to keep that position as head coach there. So he has to find a head coach, number one, but soon after that they're going to have to do more than just bring in a head coach. I think they have to, what I'm saying is whether they bring me back in some kind of partial consultant role or Jim Plunkett or one of the Raider greats that people respect and know that it is not just going to be a figurehead position, that this guy is going to come in and try and do something. I'm not talking about a GM role or anything like that. I'm just talking about something that the fans understand that they're trying to do something here in a different manner. I think if they do that the Raider fans will understand that Mr. Davis is trying. Now, is he ever going to give up the reigns? That's not going to happen. It's absolutely not going to happen. So he needs to have a buffer between himself and the head coach, someone that can get the message over to the both of them without it being an issue."


SIRIUS host, Tim Ryan: "You've known Mr. Davis for a long time, since '88. Can a dominant personality head coach survive over in Alameda in that building?"

Tim Brown: "I believe so. [Jon] Gruden did it for four years and he did it quite well. There may have been clashes but if there were we didn't see them or hear of them so as far as we were concerned we knew - especially I knew because I had been there since '88 - that he was being able to do some of the things that he wanted to do. Some of the players he was bringing in, some of the plays that were being called. I had been there for 11 years before Gruden got there and we had had four of five different coaches but the offense never changed. We had the same offense. It was always the same offense no matter what happened, no matter who the coach was. Whoever comes in there, they can't - I think what happens is people use Al Davis as a crutch where they can always fall back and say, 'Oh, well, he wouldn't let me do this.' Man, get in there and man up and pound your chest and do what you have to do. And I think if you do that and you know what you're talking about he's going to give you a chance to do it. He did it for Gruden. The players loved Gruden. The offense got better, the whole team got better and we started to become one of the better teams in the NFL. But you can't go in there with your head down asking, 'Mr. Davis, you mind if I...," you know? You've got to go in there like a man and know what you're talking about and tell him what you're going to do. And he will - it's not going to come easy, he's going to fight you on every hand - but he will eventually allow you to have some say so."

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Pat Kirwan: "Give me a profile of a guy who could coach this team if you were the guy as the layer of insulation between Al and the coach. Are you thinking a veteran guy? Are you thinking a young, tenacious guy? What kind of guy would you like to see in there if you were in this mix?"

Tim Brown: "I don't want it to be a new coach. I know that was Gruden. He was a new coach, hadn't been a head coach or whatever. But I think at this particular point it has to be someone who is very established- unless it is some hot coordinator out there that has been a coordinator most of his career and [is] a guy who is ready for a head coaching job. But I don't think it can be a young coordinator guy like [Lane] Kiffin was, Kiffin coming from college. I think you have to get an established coach in there at this particular point, someone who can say, 'This is what I've done. This is my track record. This is what I've done in the NFL so you guys get with me here and we can get some things done.' I think you've got to have a guy like that and if they can get that guy I think they have a very good shot because they have talent on the team, that's not the problem. They have some guys. They're a little lacking at the receiver position and a couple of other spots but I think they have enough talent, especially the way the AFC West is right now, they could certainly challenge."
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On Raiders QB JaMarcus Russell:

Tim Brown: "I just feel, coming from the offense that he came from - the play action type, pat the ball five times and then throw it deep in college - it doesn't really fit up with a timing offense in the NFL. And they tried to help him out by doing some of the same things but eventually you can't make a living on play action. You have to be able to drop back three steps, five steps, seven steps, pat the ball once and get the ball out on timing. That's the only way you're going to end up having an effective offense. You look around the league at guys who are playing good offensive ball, they're not doing it just off play action. They're able to mix it up and keep defenses guessing what's going on. That being said, to answer your question, I really think his development is still a couple of years away. I don't see this guy being the quarterback they want him to be until late year three, maybe into year four. I don't want to say [never] because it would be a whole lot of money going down the drain. It's a shame when you talk about someone as a person you have to mention money but that's what the game has come to. It could very well be that the best he probably could be, I believe, is [Daunte] Culpepper and the worst you're looking at Akili Smith. Hopefully he's more like Culpepper than Akili but it all depends on what kind of focus this guy is going to have during the off-season. Obviously, he has the propensity to put on a little weight. He has to be very cognizant of that. He has to be on ball with his game. He needs to get with some of these veteran quarterbacks, Hall of Fame quarterbacks, whether it is Warren Moon, [John] Elway, some of these guys and say, 'Have you guys had a chance to check me out? What do you think? What can I do?' And if a guy makes an effort like that you know he cares, you know he's trying and you're willing to give him a little bit more time. But if he goes and blows up to 300 [pounds] again like they said he did last off-season then you know this guy is not the guy that is going to dedicate himself to learning the position the way he has to."

Byron2112
12-16-2008, 02:11 PM
Tell me something I don't know Timmy.

BigTron
12-16-2008, 02:13 PM
JaMarcus never weighed 300 pounds. That was just a rumor.

poptart
12-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Some really interesting comments by T. Brown there.


- Al isn't giving up control.

Most fans have been screaming for Al to step back and let others run the show in Oakland.
But Al's ego is HUGE.
He desperately wants to win big again -- on HIS terms, to show the world, to shove it up in the face of those who've maligned him.
Unless Al is physically incapacitated, I don't see him changing a whole lot.
He still believes in himself.

Know this.

The best we can hope for, as Brown noted, is for a wise "buffer" to be in place between Al and whoever the next coach is.


- Russell

The best we might hope for from him is to be at the D. Culpepper level.
At worst, he might be a total flop.
And it will likely not be 'til year 4 until we really can guage for sure what he's gonna be.
The modern pro offense is based on quick timing, and Russell appears not to have the natural skills to operate that way.

This is tough medicine for us to digest, but I think it's pretty accurate.

RHC
12-17-2008, 06:54 AM
And it will likely not be 'til year 4 until we really can guage for sure what he's gonna be.That's completely fucking unacceptable for a #1 pick.

If I truly thought that was the case I'd be a strong proponent of drafting Sam Bradford.

Bradford could be a Matt Ryan type in his rookie year. JMO.

RFID
12-20-2008, 02:47 PM
It could very well be that the best he probably could be, I believe, is [Daunte] Culpepper

I wouldn't have too much problem with that provided we can give him a Randy Moss-Cris Carter-Jake Reed type of receiving corps...

BigTron
12-21-2008, 12:46 AM
Russell Rant

Russell gets so much shit from Raider fans. He hasnt played up to #1 status yet, but the plan wasnt for him to be a factor early in his career. We took this kid so he could get time to develop in this hellhole while we build a team around him.

Kwame Harris isnt a LT on a contending team, he's a stop gap. And this year is a learning year for our raw QB who happens to be the youngest in the NFL. We have no WR's or T's and had a media circus to fire our HC. The kid is already on his 3rd playcaller and seen an assload of different Wr's line-up.

Give him some slack, he has more TD's than INT's and hasnt cracked under the pressure of all this hopeless choas. Qb's take time to develop. Alot of people screamed for Jeff Garcia? Well if your complaining about Russell your no better than the teams who dumped QB's like Jeff Garcia, Drew Brees, Pennington and Kurt Warner etc. We have a guy with talent and very little talent around him. He also isnt being coached or taught how to play the game correctly. He should not be a scapegoat at this point. Even if you hate his "Bling" and/or dialect.

And dont bring up the holdout b/c most people in the league blame AL Davis. You pay the #1 QB and get him into camp. This is a business and thems just the breaks.

poptart
12-21-2008, 06:08 AM
Those are all fair points, Tron.

The hand Russell's been dealt hasn't been a winner.


Myself, I'm not really "down" on Russell.

On the other hand, I'm not really "up" with him, either.

No matter how you slice it, a QB is going to be a lightning rod for praise or criticism depending on how the offense he LEADS fares.

It's logical and reasonable to look at Russell very closely.

The "car" he is driving is a pile of shit, but how is HE doing as a driver?

As I've said in other threads, I like some things I see and I DON'T like some other things I see.

QBs come along faster than in a generation past.

Right now I see some areas where Russell is "coming along" slower than he ought to be, and that is factoring in all the negative "hurdles" he has to jump, which you already pointed out.

He HIMSELF needs to tighten his own game and act up a bit, imo.

A portion of the ineptitude of our offense rests on HIS shoulders.

We can't point fingers in every direction and NOT point them at the QB himself.

And btw, the "act" I'm talking about includes how he presents himself in post-game.

I don't like seeing my LOSING QB showing up looking like he just raided Liberace's closet.

A little modesty goes a long way when you're the FACE of a 3-11 team.


Just my opinions

BigTron
12-21-2008, 07:36 PM
I agree. But sometimes people say they want the QB to be the same all the time. To be the same after winning and losing and keep and even keel. I feel like he is displaying those qualities. Like he doesnt hang his head or get too down. Thats a good quality.

poptart
12-21-2008, 08:20 PM
True.

One thing I LIKE about Russell so far is that I really have not seen him lose his composure on the field all year.

No sulking, bitching, pointing fingers, etc.

And that'd be VERY easy thing for an "immature" guy to do, given the high level of sewage around him.



I like.

DuhHerbavore
12-25-2008, 11:21 PM
JaMarcus Russell is the truth. Theres no way he is gonna be a flop, and if he didnt have the natural skill then he would throw a ton of picks behind one of the leagues worst offensive lines like any other young QB would.

007
12-26-2008, 01:16 PM
Woah.

DuhHerbavore is here...I recognize that name.

;)

CrossBones
12-26-2008, 01:32 PM
Woah.

DuhHerbavore is here...I recognize that name.

;)From where. Never heard of him. :confused:

Well anyway...welcome.