2007 Game Balls & Teabags [Archive]

Crow

12-30-2007, 04:27 PM

Game Balls
Zack Miller: Easily our best rookie acquisition. Great hands. Adjusts well to the ball. Good blocker. Should improve in every area. Has a good rapport with our Big Dummy. Not a speed guy, but good in every aspect of the game.

Tom Cable: No explanation necessary. The man made chicken salad out of chicken shit. No small feat.

Shane "Hannibal" Lechler: Team MVP once again.

Nnamdi Asomugha: Another all pro caliber season. Gotta get this man his Nate Clements Money.

Chris Clemons: A nice find and a guy who really eased the burn of whiffing the Moses pick.

Stanford Routt: Once he got out of the slot, he really emerged as a viable corner.

Michael Huff: Still not worth where he was drafted. But he was brought here to cover TEs, and he's done a helluva job at it.

Thomas Howard: Improved leaps and bounds in coverage. Regressed in run support, but the piss poor play of the D-line is partly to blame for that, if not mostly to blame.

Lane Kiffin: Hard to give him a game ball here, but he did hold the team together. In Oakland, that's a great accomplishment by itself. Has a long way to go as a play caller, but I think he's got a shot to be pretty good.

Paul McQuistan: Welcome to relevance to the Big Red Machine. Should be our long term answer at RT if he continues to develop.

Jeremy Newberry, Cooper Carlisle: Solid, solid FA additions. Maybe nothing more than stop-gaps in the long run. But they really helped this line's transition.

Robert Gallery: You may have saved your career. or, should I say, Tom Cable may have saved your career. You best be buying this man a new hybrid.

Jarod Cooper: Please, for the love of Pete, come back healthy and angry next year. You're an 11 man coverage team all by yourself.

Justin Fargas: Huggy Nation! How did I forget you? Finally looked like a football player. Hope to see you around next year, Young Hugg. Maybe now your rap career with take off too.

Teabags
Warren Sapp, Terdell Sands, Tyler Brayton, Derrick Burgess, Gerrard Warren: Not much needs to be said. On the whole, this unit has been an utter embarrassment. Richardson gets a pass, but just barely. Warren and Burgess made a play here and there, but have been liabilities for the most part. Other than Burgess, and to a degree Warren, I don't see the use of retaining any of these guys.

Jake Grove: Whatever Cable was putting in Gallery's water, you better hope like hell he saved you some.

Rob Ryan & staff: An argument can be made for retaining Millard in a DE specific role. But the rest of Ryan's Heroes can go get fucked. I expect an announcement as early as tonight.

Stugert: From "QB of the secondary" to assistant manager at Burger King. How far you've fallen.

Al Davis: Your mom is calling. Go to her.

raiderfreak7

12-30-2007, 04:36 PM

Higgins gets a teabag, no doubt. I would've at least said that I'm glad he finally got a good return, but fuck you Johnnie. Reminding me of that fumble Curry had early in his career that cost us a game.

Rhodes gets a gameball. Should be on the roster next year and getting carries.

Miller and Russell get one together. Have real chemistry and will be nice to see what they do next year.

RFID

12-30-2007, 04:38 PM

Is this for this game or all of 2007?

raiderfreak7

12-30-2007, 04:40 PM

Must be for 2007, but I just did today.

SoCalRaider

12-30-2007, 04:47 PM

Was kind of surprised the defense showed up to play today.... especially the DLine....

Sapp - The strip on the Rivers handoff is probably the sweetest play he's made all season

... the only game ball in my opinion.

Close but no cigar

OLine - Usual inconsistent play... took advantage of the Chargers sitting out their big NT... but managed to hit their usual quota of false starts and bull shit penalties.... getting stuffed like a Thanksgiving Day Turkey on that 4th and 2 was most telling.

DLine - Started off great... but got tired as the game wore on... Just goes to show how much of an impact this DLine has on the overall play of the defense.

Rhodes - Will never understand why we waited 14 weeks to play the guy. Looked solid... but didn't quite "get stronger as the game wore on"...

Russell - Threw with a little more purpose after a horrific start... accuracy isn't quite there... but a couple good things is he is very solid under pressure and his strike to Porter in the endzone really shows what he can do when he gets his mechanics cleaned up.

Bitchbag..........

Sims - Got worked all game... and sat there with a shit eating grin in the huddle every time he got worked... man I can't wait to see him gone.

007

12-30-2007, 04:49 PM

Zach Miller gets a game ball.

Russell played well.

Rhodes was solid.

Teabags go to: Oline in general and JL Higgins.

RFID

12-30-2007, 04:54 PM

Rhodes - Will never understand why we waited 14 weeks to play the guy. Looked solid... but didn't quite "get stronger as the game wore on"...

But if he's in a rotation with Fargas & Bush, that shouldn't be an issue.

Crow

12-30-2007, 07:24 PM

Is this for this game or all of 2007?
Read the title, Simple Simon. ;)

RaiderWilde

12-30-2007, 07:39 PM

Tom Cable: No explanation necessary. The man made chicken salad out of chicken shit. No small feat.

Lane Kiffin: Hard to give him a game ball here, but he did hold the team together. In Oakland, that's a great accomplishment by itself. Has a long way to go as a play caller, but I think he's got a shot to be pretty good.

Al Davis: Your mom is calling. Go to her.

Just curious as to how Big Al deserves a teabag for 2007??

His responsible for bringing in 2 of the guys you just gave gameballs for in 2007 (Cable and Kiffin) doesn't that warrant you showing the old man some love for this season?? Or you still bitter on him for 2004-2006?

Crow

12-30-2007, 07:47 PM

Kiffin brought in Cable. Al had nothing to do with it.

Kiffin gets a game ball for not being Art Shell. Bottom line.

Forget '03-'06. I'm still bitter about the '90s.

Al is the anchor around this team's neck. The sooner he's gone, the sooner we'll have a chance to be a legitimate NFL team.

SoCalRaider

12-30-2007, 07:54 PM

Just curious as to how Big Al deserves a teabag for 2007??

We went 4-12 and spent the #1 pick in the draft on a guy who couldn't get on the field until December. How do you not give Al a shitbag for 2007?

Crow

12-30-2007, 07:56 PM

...or 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002...

RaiderWilde

12-30-2007, 08:32 PM

We went 4-12 and spent the #1 pick in the draft on a guy who couldn't get on the field until December. How do you not give Al a shitbag for 2007?

Yeah drafting the 1st round 1st pick and taking a QB i never had high hopes that the QB would have much game time in 2007.

Even with a training camp under his belt i don't think the Raiders would have played Jamarcus until December (He might of had a few drives here and there in November) But we were still in with a mathamatical chance of making the playoffs after that Broncos Game.

I don't think Al deserves a teabag for that... it's just the politics associated with drafting a QB with the 1st pick... You teach them by resting them.

Crow

12-30-2007, 08:43 PM

Even with a training camp under his belt i don't think the Raiders would have played Jamarcus until December.
That's a pretty silly assumption. McCown and Culpepper weren't exactly doing anything to keep Russell on the bench. If anything, their play would have forced Russell onto the field sooner.

SoCalRaider

12-30-2007, 08:51 PM

Yeah drafting the 1st round 1st pick and taking a QB i never had high hopes that the QB would have much game time in 2007.

Even with a training camp under his belt i don't think the Raiders would have played Jamarcus until December (He might of had a few drives here and there in November) But we were still in with a mathamatical chance of making the playoffs after that Broncos Game.

I don't think Al deserves a teabag for that... it's just the politics associated with drafting a QB with the 1st pick... You teach them by resting them.

Keep in mind the 2 people you're debating this with were the most outspoken against drafting and trying to develop a QB. I still contend we would have been better off landing Garcia as a FA, trading back and taking the best RB in football in Peterson.

Put Peterson in the backfield with Garcia.... and I'm convinced we're the 3rd seed in the playoffs, not the Chargers.

Al definitely deserves a shitbag for that... Nevertheless... there is a silver lining in all this.... maybe several years from now, we might be able to mention Russell and franchise player in the same sentence.

RaiderWilde

12-30-2007, 08:51 PM

That's a pretty silly assumption. McCown and Culpepper weren't exactly doing anything to keep Russell on the bench. If anything, their play would have forced Russell onto the field sooner.

Agreed in some aspects that if Jamarcus Russell had been in training camp, it would have led to Kiffin having a look at the QB sooner... however i don't think Russell would have got a ton of minutes, a few drives here and there (until the Raiders were out of playoff contention)

It was quite clear by Kiffins assumptions to the media that he was sticking with the vetran QB's to get the job done.

I don't think Kiffin wanted to play Russell until he had too (once he was mathamatically eliminated from the playoffs)

Kiffin's no.1 priority has always been winning and keeping Russell on the bench was always his best chance of winning which i believe was his personal belief (I don't necessarily agree with it, if i was a coach and wanted to shake my team up, i probably would have gone with the ROOK to see if he could have got the job done)

RaiderWilde

12-30-2007, 08:55 PM

Keep in mind the 2 people you're debating this with were the most outspoken against drafting and trying to develop a QB. I still contend we would have been better off landing Garcia as a FA, trading back and taking the best RB in football in Peterson.

Put Peterson in the backfield with Garcia.... and I'm convinced we're the 3rd seed in the playoffs, not the Chargers.

Al definitely deserves a shitbag for that... Nevertheless... there is a silver lining in all this.... maybe several years from now, we might be able to mention Russell and franchise player in the same sentence.

Yeah i've read some of Crows post... it appears he wanted to draft Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson, But Crow should have given Al Davis a Gameball for trading Randy Moss... Dude is tearing up shit in Boston but if Randy had still been a Raider we could have been looking at either a 10-6 record or a 1-15 record (That all depends on which Randy Moss turned up in the Silver and Black if we had kept him)

Crow

12-30-2007, 09:09 PM

Agreed in some aspects that if Jamarcus Russell had been in training camp, it would have led to Kiffin having a look at the QB sooner... however i don't think Russell would have got a ton of minutes, a few drives here and there (until the Raiders were out of playoff contention)

It was quite clear by Kiffins assumptions to the media that he was sticking with the vetran QB's to get the job done.

I don't think Kiffin wanted to play Russell until he had too (once he was mathamatically eliminated from the playoffs)

Kiffin's no.1 priority has always been winning and keeping Russell on the bench was always his best chance of winning which i believe was his personal belief (I don't necessarily agree with it, if i was a coach and wanted to shake my team up, i probably would have gone with the ROOK to see if he could have got the job done)
With a full training camp and preseason, our being alive in the playoff race might have been the best reason to play Russell. Look at his competition. Oh, my bad. He wouldn't have had any competition. McCown and Culpepper are terrible.

This ain't some out-of-my-ass notion. Shanarat did this very thing last year. Cutler gave his team a better chance to win than did Plummer. Same could have been said of Russell had the big dumb bastard showed up for camp.

Crow

12-30-2007, 09:11 PM

Yeah i've read some of Crows post... it appears he wanted to draft Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson, But Crow should have given Al Davis a Gameball for trading Randy Moss... Dude is tearing up shit in Boston but if Randy had still been a Raider we could have been looking at either a 10-6 record or a 1-15 record (That all depends on which Randy Moss turned up in the Silver and Black if we had kept him)

Al doesn't get a game ball for dumping Moss. That's like giving someone credit for changing the sheets after shitting the bed.

And there's no question which Randy Moss we would have gotten. It would have been the same piece of monkey shit we had the previous 2 seasons.

RaiderWilde

12-30-2007, 09:30 PM

Al doesn't get a game ball for dumping Moss. That's like giving someone credit for changing the sheets after shitting the bed.

And there's no question which Randy Moss we would have gotten. It would have been the same piece of monkey shit we had the previous 2 seasons.

LOL Good Analogy!!!

But Randy Moss doesn't sleep in beds, Dude belongs in the kennel like the true dog he is.

RaiderWilde

12-30-2007, 09:35 PM

With a full training camp and preseason, our being alive in the playoff race might have been the best reason to play Russell. Look at his competition. Oh, my bad. He wouldn't have had any competition. McCown and Culpepper are terrible.

This ain't some out-of-my-ass notion. Shanarat did this very thing last year. Cutler gave his team a better chance to win than did Plummer. Same could have been said of Russell had the big dumb bastard showed up for camp.

Yeah that's true it could have worked out like Jake Plummer but i always figured from the moment we drafted him it was gonna be more like Carson Palmer...

You'd think sometimes drafting a player at no.1 as opposed to Cutler who was taken at 11th that the 1st pick could help more...

But usually when your drafting no.1 you already have the foundations of shitty ass team and the playoffs ain't usually a realistic goal... It's just that the Broncos have been a successful ballclub for the last 20 years (meaning they are ALWAYS in the hunt for playoffs or wildcard entry)

I don't think the pressure on Jay Cutler is as much as the pressure on Jamarcus Russell cause Jamarcus Russell is viewed as the saviour of this great team. I must say that even after only viewing Jamarcus in 4 games, i believe we have the better of the 2 Quarterbacks.

007

12-31-2007, 02:08 AM

Keep in mind the 2 people you're debating this with were the most outspoken against drafting and trying to develop a QB. I still contend we would have been better off landing Garcia as a FA, trading back and taking the best RB in football in Peterson.

Let's not kid ourselves homer boy. :D

Adrian Peterson was a major contributor as we watched the Minnisota Vikings stumble ass backwards out of the playoffs and end up choking away a shot at a January game.

In the last half of the season he missed some key games, and at a time when they needed him most, the last four games of the season, he averaged 36 yards a game and 2.67 yards per carry...

Hopefully it was the 'rookie wall' he hit, and not a sign that he can't be a full time starter over 16 games with his running style. Chester Taylor didnt have problems, as evidenced by his 7.9 YPC average against the same teams over the same span.

Put Peterson in the backfield with Garcia.... and I'm convinced we're the 3rd seed in the playoffs, not the Chargers.

I doubt it. Our defense wouldnt have been good enough. Both those teams have top notch defenses and Minnisota has quietly set the record for run defence over a two year span...Holding teams to under 80 yards a game and less than a 3 YPC average over the last 32 games.

No way would those two players have made us a 3 seed in the AFC. Heck, you needed 10 wins just to have a chance at a Wild Card.

Both those players you mentioned we're lucky to be put in such a perfect situation. Not a clusterfuck like Oakland with question marks nearly everywhere.

Al definitely deserves a shitbag for that... Nevertheless... there is a silver lining in all this.... maybe several years from now, we might be able to mention Russell and franchise player in the same sentence.

You might be right.

Crow

12-31-2007, 06:02 AM

LOL Good Analogy!!!

But Randy Moss doesn't sleep in beds, Dude belongs in the kennel like the true dog he is.
I'm usually an animal lover, but I'd buy the PPV to watch that dog put to sleep.
Yeah that's true it could have worked out like Jake Plummer but i always figured from the moment we drafted him it was gonna be more like Carson Palmer...
I think that's what most of us were looking for at first. But...damn. McCown and Culpepper have a way of changing a fella's mind about that sort of thing. The more I think about the shit performances those two put on, the more I want to kick Russell in his big ass for holding out.

You'd think sometimes drafting a player at no.1 as opposed to Cutler who was taken at 11th that the 1st pick could help more...
Punk ass holdout...

But usually when your drafting no.1 you already have the foundations of shitty ass team and the playoffs ain't usually a realistic goal... It's just that the Broncos have been a successful ballclub for the last 20 years (meaning they are ALWAYS in the hunt for playoffs or wildcard entry)
They've been a borderline average team since Elway bolted, though. If not for the futility of this division over the years, Denver would have had a much harder time, I think.

That said, I wouldn't trade those playoff losses to the Colts for all the narcotics in Mexico. Watching the Rat's team just fall apart while Manning ate them alive...priceless.

I don't think the pressure on Jay Cutler is as much as the pressure on Jamarcus Russell cause Jamarcus Russell is viewed as the saviour of this great team. I must say that even after only viewing Jamarcus in 4 games, i believe we have the better of the 2 Quarterbacks.
Anyone looking at Russell as a savior needs their head examined. Seriously. Unless he can throw, catch, tackle, and rush the opposing QB, no one player is going to change this team's fortunes.

As for comparisons, Russell doesn't have to play in John Elway's shadow, so I think the pressure on either QB is at least equal.

Whether or not we got the better QB is still TBD. I like him better than Brodie Croyle, though, so...that's something, I guess.

BigTron

12-31-2007, 09:48 AM

Drafting differently would put us in the 3rd seed? Garcia and AP are gonna play defense so teams dont run for 150+ and 2TD's every week?

massraider

12-31-2007, 09:54 AM

2007 game ball: Tom Cable.

2007 tea bag: Terdell Sands.

I can't even express how disappointed I am in Terd this past year.

SoCalRaider

12-31-2007, 05:18 PM

Let's not kid ourselves homer boy. :D

You wouldn't know a good RB if you got run over by one... 10 Pro Bowls and a couple Super Bowls living in the crotch of Russell jihadist.......... You're probably the only person in the world clueless enough to try and call out Peterson.

Adrian Peterson was a major contributor as we watched the Minnisota Vikings stumble ass backwards out of the playoffs and end up choking away a shot at a January game.

In the last half of the season he missed some key games, and at a time when they needed him most, the last four games of the season, he averaged 36 yards a game and 2.67 yards per carry...

Hopefully it was the 'rookie wall' he hit, and not a sign that he can't be a full time starter over 16 games with his running style.

Maybe you're more of a dummy than I gave you credit for. So we should ignore the fact that before hitting the rookie wall the guy only led the league in almost every rushing category including 6.6 ypc and set numerous NFL records in the process, including most rushing yards in a game and most all purpose yards in a game. Once again, your irreverent stats brings nothing to the table. Feel free to look at the guy's entire body of work this year before making yourself look like a Willistine.

Chester Taylor didnt have problems, as evidenced by his 7.9 YPC average against the same teams over the same span.

Your numbers would only fool a Willistine. Taylor got a grand total of 29 carries in the last 4 games... (primarily as a passing down back, but you wouldn't know since you never saw a single down)... and one of those carries was an 84 yard touchdown run. :rolleyes:

Nice try... Maybe from this point forward we can recommend IQ tests before posting that way you can permanently be confined to the Willistine board.

SoCalRaider

12-31-2007, 05:23 PM

Drafting differently would put us in the 3rd seed? Garcia and AP are gonna play defense so teams dont run for 150+ and 2TD's every week?

Win the division with 10 wins and you're a 3rd seed this past year... Diego, Denver, and KC were all very beatable this year.... there's 6 wins... and go .500 in the rest of the games.... That's all it would have taken.

raiderfreak7

12-31-2007, 05:30 PM

I don't think theres any way we would've made the playoffs this year. Improved record? Definitely. But that would still leave us with a hole at quarterback since Garcia would be 39 years old next year and not have much left in the tank. Our runningback didn't cost us games like our quarterback and rush defense did. We've made an investment to one of those, now we need to start making an investment on the other one.

007

12-31-2007, 05:51 PM

SoCal:

Im not the blind nuthugger comparing Peterson to LT yet. You called him 'The best runningback in the game' and I almost spat out my beverage.

IMO there is no comparison.

LT was his best down the stretch, and flat out carried his team down the final stretch while Rivers sucked... whereas AP fizzled and looked like an ordinary rookie after 'hitting the wall'.

Considering the fact you've been on his nuts all year, I thought it good to bring up his lack of production during crunch time.

It seems to me that the teams in the playoffs all had something in common this season: Brady, Manning, Romo, Favre, Roethlisberger, Hasselbeck, Eli, VY, Garcia, Rivers, Campbell Garrard...Good to GREAT QB play. (Some debateable, most not)

In your defence though, I did notice looking through the last draft and all the stats though, that the two highly touted rookie running backs, Marshawn and Peterson all improved their team IMMEDIATELY. (Which IIRC was why you were nuthugging AP the whole offseason and was my main argument against drafting a RB early)

In the end though, it was mediocre QB play that cost both those teams a postseason birth (Edwards and Losman in Buffalo, Jackson in Minnisota) and they'll be watching the playoffs with all us Raider fans.

I think now more than ever we need to have some solidarity at the position. I think we may have found it in Russell.

fatdog

12-31-2007, 06:39 PM

SoCal:

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In your defence though, I did notice looking through the last draft and all the stats though, that the two highly touted rookie running backs, Marshawn and Peterson all improved their team IMMEDIATELY. (Which IIRC was why you were nuthugging AP the whole offseason and was my main argument against drafting a RB early)

In the end though, it was mediocre QB play that cost both those teams a postseason birth (Edwards and Losman in Buffalo, Jackson in Minnisota) and they'll be watching the playoffs with all us Raider fans.

I think now more than ever we need to have some solidarity at the position. I think we may have found it in Russell.

OK now that we have Russell, ( I'm OK with that) what would you think about taking DMC if he is there. He could be better than both Peterson and Lynch? Do you believe he could have the same Immediate team improvement for the Raiders as the above RB's did with their respective teams?

007

12-31-2007, 06:46 PM

Russell-DMC is far and away better than any combination of AP-Whoever this year. If we pick 3rd or 4th, we have a very legitimate shot at scooping up McFadden, or any of the top DL left (Chris Long, Gholston, Ellis, Dorsey) That is going to be HUGE for us, IMO.

It's also a huge plus not having to look at a young QB this year, considering who's out there.

I like Ryan and have pimped him for a long time, but he has a ton of question marks. Average arm strength, throws a lot of picks, streaky, pretty skinny for a 6-5 QB, Can't really create much with his feet...

Im very happy we took a QB this year, considering what is out there at the 3 spot this season.

Crow

12-31-2007, 06:56 PM

fatdog

12-31-2007, 07:03 PM

007

12-31-2007, 07:03 PM

Saying DMc is a better prospect than AD is a stretch.

Nevertheless, the boy can play some ball. With his nimble running style, he could really do some damage in this scheme.

We made Son o' Huggy Bear a 1000 yard back. DMc could conceivably double that.

AP is a better prospect than DMC. I think DMC is an elite talent, but AP is still a harder runner and seems to have less question marks.

A combination of Russell and DMC though, trumps anything that we could get to combine with AP this year. Brian Brohm or Andre Woodson? Nope.

Langlier

12-31-2007, 07:27 PM

Crow

12-31-2007, 08:43 PM

Hey a stretch it may be but I have to pimp my lil Al pick early.

God damn December smoke screens...

fatdog

12-31-2007, 08:52 PM

God damn December smoke screens...
Its going to be a looong 4 fucking months!!!!

Crow

12-31-2007, 09:25 PM

You ain't kiddin'.

RaiderIVlife

01-01-2008, 12:48 PM

Let's not kid ourselves homer boy. :D

Adrian Peterson was a major contributor as we watched the Minnisota Vikings stumble ass backwards out of the playoffs and end up choking away a shot at a January game.

In the last half of the season he missed some key games, and at a time when they needed him most, the last four games of the season, he averaged 36 yards a game and 2.67 yards per carry...

Hopefully it was the 'rookie wall' he hit, and not a sign that he can't be a full time starter over 16 games with his running style. Chester Taylor didnt have problems, as evidenced by his 7.9 YPC average against the same teams over the same span.

I doubt it. Our defense wouldnt have been good enough. Both those teams have top notch defenses and Minnisota has quietly set the record for run defence over a two year span...Holding teams to under 80 yards a game and less than a 3 YPC average over the last 32 games.

No way would those two players have made us a 3 seed in the AFC. Heck, you needed 10 wins just to have a chance at a Wild Card.

Both those players you mentioned we're lucky to be put in such a perfect situation. Not a clusterfuck like Oakland with question marks nearly everywhere.

You might be right.

Any elaboration on my part would be pointless. This is a great post.

Re: Russell - I think we would have been 7-9 at best with those 2 players and we STILL wouldn't have a potential franchise QB on the roster. Russell showed me something last Sunday. There was a point in that game where I was wondering if he would 'fold' emotionally, but he didn't. I think he has more mental toughness than some realize.

The signing of Garcia, another over the hill veteran, would merely have been a continuation of the same failed Raider policy of the last 20+ years. I'm sometimes shocked that people don't understand the rationale behind drafting a "franchise QB".

I think at worst, Al Davis get's a 'push' for 2007. Obviously going 4-12 and having some gaping holes on the roster are the negatives, but he also acquired a solid coaching staff, the team has a nenewed 'espirit de corps', we have a potential franchise QB, solid rookie TE, a nice 3-headed monster at RB, no major cap liabilities and a high draft pick in 2008.

I think our outlook for the future is much brigther now than it was 12 months ago today.

raiderfreak7

01-01-2008, 03:49 PM

Re: Russell - I think we would have been 7-9 at best with those 2 players and we STILL wouldn't have a potential franchise QB on the roster. Russell showed me something last Sunday. There was a point in that game where I was wondering if he would 'fold' emotionally, but he didn't. I think he has more mental toughness than some realize.

That's exactly how I feel. Garcia would've gotten us a few more wins, but I doubt he would've led us to the playoffs.

massraider

01-02-2008, 09:52 AM

That's exactly how I feel. Garcia would've gotten us a few more wins, but I doubt he would've led us to the playoffs.

And we'd still be looking for a fucking QB.

raiderfreak7

01-02-2008, 10:32 AM

And we'd still be looking for a fucking QB.

Which is the whole point of not going that route.

RaiderIVlife

01-02-2008, 11:53 PM

Langlier

01-03-2008, 12:13 AM

he can put some zip on that ball... i think we will see very few of those DL interceptions in the future... mainly because it might take some hands off if they try to get one on it.

jatfly

01-03-2008, 05:30 AM

Some JaMarcus Russell hightlights from last Sunday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jlr1q5odt8

People have compared him to Vince Young. I really don't see it. Russell is MUCH more of a QB in the traditional sense of the word. The comparison to Roethlisberger is more apt IMO.

The rope to Jerry Porter was nice, but I really like his touch on the short stuff. Plus his height allows him to dump to the RB over the middle of the D-line. Much like a big Center in basketball dropping those baby hooks in from 6 feet out. Automatic.

Even the most hardened critic had to be cautiously optimisitc about what we saw on Sunday, right?

I really liked seeing this I was working on the kitchen and wasn't able to watch. I did listen thanks to Sirius NFL radio. This clip showed me one thing we all know already.
SIMS is Done!!!!!!!!
That DE got around him and them his stupid ass couldn't jump on the ball in the end zone.
Also since we have a QB worth that much money I don't want to have a over the hill lineman protecting his blindside!!!!