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Crow
11-05-2007, 05:31 AM
WR
Bernard Berrian (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35742) is a legitimate deep threat whose game has become a little more well rounded this season. He's exactly the type of wide out we need to take advantage of Ja's arm, and would be a terrific compliment to Curry.

He's going to want a nice chunk of cash. But he's young, has very reliable hands, and is a true 4.3 guy whose timed speed shows up on the field.

Bryant Johnson (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=34528), while not special in any area, would solidify our #3 position.

Patrick Crayton (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35789). Just a good all around WR. But, the odds of Jerry Jones letting him get away are minimal. He's going to get well paid, and Al's not likely to go for it even if he would consider coming here.

Ernest Wilford (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35760) is a guy I like more than most. Not fast by any stretch. But he's big, has pretty good hands, and would be a nice redzone weapon. He also wouldn't cost as much as some other "name" WRs.


Devery Henderson (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35692) never really panned out in New Orleans and probably won't be invited back. I'm all for giving him a look, though. Big time speed. Maybe a younger Alvis Whitted. Maybe could turn into something more with Ja' lobbing the ball downfield.

DT
Corey Williams (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35856) is about to have his second jihad amongst the Oakland faithful.

Brian Young (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=28890). Pretty decent DT for the Saints. Represents an upgrade.

Token Poly for HB. (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35916)

Albert Haynesworth (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=32991): The Head Stomper.

DE
Terrell Suggs (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=34505)...if only.

Justin Smith (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=30051) may get tagged again. If not...maybe?

Jared Allen (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35943) is another guy who'll be fun to talk about...until he gets tagged.

LB

Karlos Dansby (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35779) would make a nice addition, eh?

Michael Boley (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=37351)

Demorrio Williams (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35912) was a guy some of you lot were high on when he was coming out.

Keyaron Fox (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35903) is another guy you lot were big on. One of Step's jihads, IIRC.

DB
Eugene Wilson (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=34597) might be willing to leave...nah. Nevermind.

RB
Tyson Thompson (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=37653) is Dallas' 3rd string guy. He's shown some skill and they probably won't make much effort to retain him unless they trade Julius Jones. Could be a gem.

Ron Dayne. (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=28762) Hey. He kicked our ass, and he knows the blocking scheme.

Jesse Chatman (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=33451) could make a nice platoon back.

Mewelde Moore (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35690). I still really like this guy.

Michael Turner (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35694) would be great. Too bad it'll never happen.

OL
Jordan Gross (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=34515) may not be a great fit, but he's in a contract year.


Alan "By God" Faneca (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=25950) just became my #1 FA jihad. What a difference this cat could make.

Chris Kemoeatu (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=37460) never really developed the way some thought he would. But, he's still a nasty bastard and we could use that around here.

Sean Locklear (http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx?id=35892) would certainly represent an upgrade.


Okay. It's past my bed time. Enough of this shit.

jatfly
11-05-2007, 06:09 AM
OK I am all about grabing a Faneca and Locklear......for the line I want no parts of any of those RB's.
Any of the DE's will work but none of them will move on.
I would like Haynesworth or Corey Williams in the D-line.
I don't like the WR you have listed not one BIT, now if we trade of a Chad Johnson I may be in on that......

S and B Executioner
11-05-2007, 09:39 AM
I love Berrian. Dude just makes catches and has experience as a winner. But not really "jihad" material.

Crayton is sick! I'd love to see this guy in the ol' Silver and Black, he's better than ANY WR we have on the roster now.

Really, on this list I see ONLY 3 "jihad" type players.

(in order of who I want)

1) Allen Faneca- He is a key cog in the Steelers inside run game and aguably the best guard in the AFC. A tad long in the tooth, but he would be instrumental as locker room leader and a part time coach with the Mario Henderson, Jake Grove and Paul McQuistan types. Any cost, get him!!

2)Albert Haynesworth- Yes, he'll be tagged. Yes, he'll be expensive. Yes, he will cost us draft picks. But as pourous as our run defense has been and as poor as our pass rush has been, his abilty to eat up blockers and free up the big pass rush and stuff the run is worth it. It isnt like we will be able to draft a player that is as much a lock as Big Albert. Remember, with draft picks it is always a gamble, with thos route, we pretty much know what we are getting.

3)Jered Allen- I make the same argument with Allen as I do with Haynesworth, except he'll be more valuable in the pass rush area than the run department. Isn't this guy a NoCal native and Raiders fan as well? His trouble are behind him and all he does is kill QB's day in, day out! On top of that, we score him and our QB is safer for 2 games a year and KC loses their best defender!


If we do nothing this offseason, landing AT LEAST one of these guys is a must. I prefer, if we do land one of these 3, to go by way of what is left of our draft to fill holes at WR, RB and SAFETY!

donovan
11-05-2007, 09:53 AM
I went looking at FA lists last night and came up with all the same names.

Good work.

Berrian is the sexiest one to me. Maybe Kiffin can use the Fresno State connection to git 'er done.

Faneca and some of the others are probably long shots but I don't think Haynesworth would be if they overpay. Which, I'd probably be cool doing at this point because the draft isn't going to be enough, especially when they don't have a third rounder because they had to move up and get Higgins or Henderson. :rolleyes: I forget which, but at this point of the seasons they may as well switch positions and none of us would know the difference. God, I can't believe those were this team's third-round picks. And, of course, Moses.

Madturk
11-05-2007, 10:33 AM
I don't think any of the receivers on that list are legit #1's but could compliment what we already have. Was hoping that Higgins would have given us the down field threat we sorely lack but I wouldn't be surprised if Al made a run at Chad Johnson this offseason, but he will undoubtedly cost us a high first day pick and/or some players.

I'd like to see us add two FA OL this offseason, Faneca may be a bit rich for our blood. I'd look to someone like Ryan Lilja or one of the aforementioned linemen. Then use the draft to bring in an additional body or two, maybe a center. I think Cornell Green and Cooper Carlisle are adequate and hopefully Mario Henderson can develop into the LT we sorely need.

Like some here, I'm a bit hesitant to pull the trigger on Al Haynesworth for fear he'll pull a Big Terd on us but the options are somewhat limited unless we go for a Glen Dorsey who we'll probably be in a good position to pick.

Jared Allen, while I'd love to have him, is basically a pipe dream. We'll have to pay a kings ransom for him. It would be much more cost efficient to bring in Howie Jr who is a tremendous all around DE that we can play opp Burgess. Use our second rounder on someone like Tom Zbikowski who can play either safety position and our secondary should be complete.

Freakshow
11-05-2007, 12:02 PM
If there's a better defensive tackle than Albert Haynesworth in the game right now I'd like to see him. Landing that whale would go a LONG way to fixing this pours run defense we've go going. It may be unrealistic but if it's possible I say we do what we have to and get him.

Byron2112
11-05-2007, 03:53 PM
IMO we're going to need to pay for two top FA lineman and bring them here.

Ideally there would be one on offense and one on D, but two on one side a the ball would work too. We're going to have to have two studs on each side to build these lines around. If we have that our current scrubs would probably be enough to fill the gaps and give us decent line play on both sides of the ball.

We don't have the time, we don't have the picks, and frankly, I don't trust Al to make it happen through the draft. he needs to use his 20/20 on current NFL players and pay to bring them in.

Berrian's not bad. He seems tp consistently make plays downfield, and with horrible QBing too.

I don't want any part of Devery Henderson, that guy's a heartbreaker and a waste of time IMO... terrible hands.

hawaiianboy
11-05-2007, 05:14 PM
I'd like to see us add two FA OL this offseason, Faneca may be a bit rich for our blood. I'd look to someone like Ryan Lilja or one of the aforementioned linemen. Then use the draft to bring in an additional body or two, maybe a center. I think Cornell Green and Cooper Carlisle are adequate and hopefully Mario Henderson can develop into the LT we sorely need.


I agree with this... As big of a fan as I am of Faneca, I'd rather throw the big money at an OT instead... I've heard it mentioned that Carolina wanted to extend Jordan Gross, but I don't see him listed as a FA anywhere... If he is, he should be a priority #1, signed at 12:01am the first day of free agency type of signing IMO... He's a great pass blocker that can play either tackle spot who's average run block skills will be covered up by the scheme...

My top FA priorities would be:

1) Jordan Gross
Hopefully Mario can lock down the OT spot opposite...

2) Eugene Wilson/Gibril Wilson
I'm tired of dicking around in the draft hoping that a guy develops... get a vet in to play next to Huff... I've heard Brian Dawkins can opt out after this year... If that's true, I would love to have his leadership back there for a few years...

3) Someone that can play NT in our soon to be put in 34 defense :D... I can see why Green Bay didn't want to trade Corey Williams, he's playing like one tough sucker... I wasn't aware that he was a FA, but I'd take him... Otherwise Randy Starks would work for me...

The WR pool is pretty meh... I'd still take a look at Antonio Bryant myself..

Jack's sore libido
11-05-2007, 05:19 PM
The Wilson safeties are always hurt.

No point in bringing in guys who would spend more time in the tub than on the practice field.

BigTron
11-05-2007, 05:19 PM
I agree with this... As big of a fan as I am of Faneca, I'd rather throw the big money at an OT instead... I've heard it mentioned that Carolina wanted to extend Jordan Gross, but I don't see him listed as a FA anywhere... If he is, he should be a priority #1, signed at 12:01am the first day of free agency type of signing IMO... He's a great pass blocker that can play either tackle spot who's average run block skills will be covered up by the scheme...

My top FA priorities would be:

1) Jordan Gross
Hopefully Mario can lock down the OT spot opposite...

2) Eugene Wilson/Gibril Wilson
I'm tired of dicking around in the draft hoping that a guy develops... get a vet in to play next to Huff... I've heard Brian Dawkins can opt out after this year... If that's true, I would love to have his leadership back there for a few years...

3) Someone that can play NT in our soon to be put in 34 defense :D... I can see why Green Bay didn't want to trade Corey Williams, he's playing like one tough sucker... I wasn't aware that he was a FA, but I'd take him... Otherwise Randy Starks would work for me...

The WR pool is pretty meh... I'd still take a look at Antonio Bryant myself..

Dawkins is and Eagle for life. He would never leave Philly. He loves Philly. I do agree with Jordan Gross however. He would be a great pick-up. I also am down with Berrian and thinkg Henderson drops too many passes.

Johnny Friendly
11-05-2007, 06:03 PM
Faneca, definitely. Gibril Wilson, sure.

Haynesworth seems like he'd end up giving us the Gerard Warren treatment.

We need to pink slip half the team, as is, might as well jihad for everyone in free agency next year.

BigTron
11-05-2007, 06:24 PM
Haynesworth and Jared Allen are both staying where they are at. We might as well kill all that talk early. Haynesworth is playing like the best DT in the NFL right now. Peterson said J.Allen isnt going anywhere and they would franchise him if need be. We should be more realistic. The draft is the only place to find a stud D-Lineman.

Berrian would be a sweet pick-up. He fits a need bigtime. I could see him wanting to test the market and leave the whack QB situation in CHi.

Byron2112
11-05-2007, 07:02 PM
It's true that stud D-lineman rarely leave via free agency... infact I'm having trouble thinking of a superstar defensive lineman in his prime that has been allowed to walk.

Other than Reggie White I can't think of any dominators.

Seem to anyone else that DT's rarely stay at the top of the league year in and year out?

Seems like guys will be good, dominate for a year or two, then fall back to just being good... I dunno if that's becasue they're fat, lazy fucks or what?

BigTron
11-05-2007, 07:04 PM
1. McFadden
2. Dorsey
3. J.Long

My top three hopes for the draft as of today.

Johnny Friendly
11-05-2007, 09:14 PM
Seems like guys will be good, dominate for a year or two, then fall back to just being good... I dunno if that's becasue they're fat, lazy fucks or what?

It's hard to eat that much fucking food and drink that much muscle milk, week in week out, without developing some kind of chemical imbalance. ;)

Limee
11-06-2007, 02:20 AM
The Wilson safeties are always hurt.

No point in bringing in guys who would spend more time in the tub than on the practice field.


Gibril Wilson has started 16, 15 and 8 so far in his last 3 seasons. I really liked him coming out of Tennessee and think he would be a good pick up for our secondary.

s.dot88
11-06-2007, 06:27 PM
im all for bringing in Faneca, Berrian and Haynesworth and even Drew Carter to an extent

my gripe with Haynesworth is that we havent really seen him perform like this until this year, which just so happens to be a contract year

if we can get Haynesworth to play a NT role, i'd love to draft Calais Campbell and play Tommy Kelly at UT while sapp works the situational pass rush

but i still say Faneca is easily at the top of my list for now

SoCalRaider
11-10-2007, 11:05 AM
Some news on a couple of our own pending free agents....


According to a pair of scouts who spoke with PFW recently, Raiders QB Daunte Culpepper has done little in his time with the Raiders this season to give other teams much confidence in his value on the free-agent market next spring. “Culpepper was never the most mobile guy,” said one AFC scout. “But to me, he looks more stiff and robotic and mechanical moving around the pocket. He just looks tight moving around, and I don’t think he’s all the way back from that knee yet. He was never Michael Vick (http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/Whispers/2007/whispers111007.htm#), but at least he could move around a little more. He can’t even make the subtle shifts in the pocket. You just don’t see it.”
Raiders sources say there is little to no chance the team will allow CB Nnamdi Asomugha, considered a rising star at the position, to leave as a free agent next offseason, and that they would consider the idea of using the franchise tag, if necessary. He is the team’s top priority for the offseason.
The Raiders saw the return of Gerard Warren at practice this week from a thigh injury he suffered during the team’s bye in Week Five, and it couldn’t have come as a better time with Tommy Kelly’s season-ending injury. Warren, acquired in a preseason trade with Denver, was surprisingly the team’s most disruptive defensive lineman before getting hurt.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/Whispers/2007/whispers111007.htm

RaiderIVlife
11-10-2007, 11:21 AM
Shawn Rodgers is another potential beast at DT that is playing his best ball in a contact year.

Guys like that sort of scare me. I still hear whispers that Rodgers 'takes plays off', but he sure seems like an Al Davis type of signing....

Langlier
11-10-2007, 04:10 PM
Shawn Rodgers is another potential beast at DT that is playing his best ball in a contact year.

Guys like that sort of scare me. I still hear whispers that Rodgers 'takes plays off', but he sure seems like an Al Davis type of signing....

He certainly destroyed us game 1 this year... but in what i have watched from det since he hasnt done as much... if we kept him motivated hed be a house.

RHC
11-10-2007, 04:38 PM
I'm going to just go by Crow's list as it's the first I've really seen.

Locks I'd go after with a vengeance.

1. Berrian - He's superstar material playing with a bunch of QBs who think the word "consistent" means you shit on yourself all the time.

2. Faneca - never even a question.

3. Sean Locklear - We're definitely at least 2 players away on the o-line. let's take care of it right here.

Jack's sore libido
11-10-2007, 06:31 PM
He certainly destroyed us game 1 this year... but in what i have watched from det since he hasnt done as much... if we kept him motivated hed be a house.

He did an awful lot last week.

hawaiianboy
11-10-2007, 10:03 PM
I'd really like to see an accurate complete list because most are lacking...


Ken Hamlin will be a FA... Dallas seems to really like Pat Watkins so Hamlin should be on the market and he's just 26 years old...

Almost all of the Titans D-line are free agents to be:
Travis LaBoy
Antwan Odom
Albert Haynesworth
Rien Long
Randy Starks

It's going to be interesting to see what they do there... LaBoy and Odom have been injury prone in the past but both have come on real strong this year.... I imagine they are going to try and keep Haynesworth and Odom, but Starks looks like he's ready to take that next step as well... I know LaBpy's wife prefers to be on the West Coast so that she can persue a pro beach volleyball gig, so he may be someone we could sign pretty quick if Odom's not there...


While the Faneca, Allen, Suggs, Haynesworth kind of dreams are fun, the reality is we're not the liquid cash heavy Skins or Seahawks... I'd love to add the up and coming Corey Williams and Antwan Odom as well as Hamlin to our defense if possible... Not as sexy as some of the other names, but all in the 26-27 age range... Jordan Gross, would be really nice as well if he's available and if Al wants to go on a FA frenzy this offseason...

Langlier
11-11-2007, 02:47 AM
I'm going to just go by Crow's list as it's the first I've really seen.

Locks I'd go after with a vengeance.

1. Berrian - He's superstar material playing with a bunch of QBs who think the word "consistent" means you shit on yourself all the time.

2. Faneca - never even a question.

3. Sean Locklear - We're definitely at least 2 players away on the o-line. let's take care of it right here.

you and I... have different opinions of good players.

Berrian - fast and would be a great slot guy... as a #1 or #2... hes very average... He reminds me a lot of Ashley Lelie

Faneca is a great G and would be good on our line... however G is one of the few spots we can not afford to drop that kind of dough on.

Locklear... sucks in the run game and is average in the pass game. Not worth the coin he'll demand... We can plug Paul McQ in here and get nearly the same results...

Bryant Johnson would be a starter on most teams... he just happens to be playing behind 2 superstars in Fitz and Boldin. He's a very good player and would be a great #2/#3 WR and won't command huge coin.

DL Jared Allen UFA Kansas City Chiefs
DL Colin Cole UFA Green Bay Packers
DL Chuck Darby UFA Seattle Seahawks
DL Damione Lewis UFA Carolina Panthers
DL Mike Rucker UFA Carolina Panthers
DL Justin Smith UFA Cincinnati Bengals
DL Isaac Sopoaga UFA San Francisco 49ers
DL Paul Spicer UFA Jacksonville Jaguars
DL Randy Starks UFA Tennessee Titans
DL Terrell Suggs UFA Baltimore Ravens

we need one and probably 2 from the above if we dont land dorsey with our #1 overall.

LB Boss Bailey UFA Detroit Lions
LB Michael Boley RFA Atlanta Falcons
LB Danny Clark UFA Houston Texans
LB Karlos Dansby UFA Arizona Cardinals
LB Landon Johnson UFA Cincinnati Bengals
LB Teddy Lehman UFA Detroit Lions
LB Lemar Marshall UFA Cincinnati Bengals
LB Calvin Pace UFA Arizona Cardinals
LB Raonall Smith UFA St. Louis Rams
LB Dontarrious Thomas UFA Minnesota Vikings
LB Mike Vrabel UFA New England Patriots
LB Demorrio Williams UFA Atlanta Falcons
LB Sam Williams UFA Oakland Raiders

holy crap if you need an LB is next year the year to get one. Demorrio, Lehman, Dansby would all be very welcome additions if we can get them on the cheap.

FS Deke Cooper UFA Carolina Panthers
SS Keith Davis UFA Dallas Cowboys
FS Mike Doss UFA Minnesota Vikings
CB Eric Green RFA Arizona Cardinals
CB Quentin Jammer UFA San Diego Chargers
SS Pierson Prioleau UFA Washington Redskins
FS Gerome Sapp UFA Baltimore Ravens
CB Charles Tillman UFA Chicago Bears
CB Matt Ware UFA Arizona Cardinals
FS Eugene Wilson UFA New England Patriots
SS Gibril Wilson UFA New York Giants

a few interesting options for DB depth or an S to put next to huff... again most of these guys are great if we can get at modest prices.... but thats not likely.

Madturk
11-11-2007, 03:40 AM
Is Corey Williams a FA?

Crow
11-11-2007, 10:50 AM
Berrian = Lelie? C'mon, now. Lelie has been a total bust. Berrian has turned into a quality WR. Definitely a legit starter, IMO. Can't say the same for Lelie.

RHC
11-11-2007, 01:12 PM
Berrian = Lelie? C'mon, now. Lelie has been a total bust. Berrian has turned into a quality WR. Definitely a legit starter, IMO. Can't say the same for Lelie.I had Berrian on my ff team. He was getting me good points even while his QB was tanking. Great deep threat. Good hands.

He'll surprise everyone if he lands on a team with a strong QB. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he'd be thrilled to come to the Raiders with Russell under center.

A slot guy?? Nah. This dude's a flanker with bad-ass speed who can actually CATCH the deep pass as well as threaten it.

hawaiianboy
11-14-2007, 03:28 PM
Something to bookmark:

The best FA listing I have seen yet (http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Free%20Agency/2007/positionlist.htm)

Rupert
11-14-2007, 03:58 PM
HB: When did your boy Ekejiuba become an WR? They've got him as one on that list. D'Oh!

Jack's sore libido
11-14-2007, 04:44 PM
Something to bookmark:

The best FA listing I have seen yet (http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Free%20Agency/2007/positionlist.htm)

The receivers I like on that list are:
D.J. Hackett
Andre Davis
Bernard Berrian
Devery Henderson

I think Russell's arm could really exploit their speed.

Tackles on that list I like are:

Flozell Adams
Maurice Williams

Guards:
Ryan Lilja
Rick DeMulling
Rex Hadnot

Defensive ends:
Jared Allen
Bobby McCray
Antwan Odom
Terrell Suggs

Defensive tackles:
Albert Haynesworth
Randy Starks
Corey Williams
Ellis Wyms

Outside backers:
Clark Haggans
Karlos Dansby
Lance Briggs

Safeties:
Yeremiah Bell
Bob Sanders

S and B Executioner
11-14-2007, 05:18 PM
Let The Travis Laboy Jiihad Begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

007
11-14-2007, 10:56 PM
Sign me up for Lance Briggs or Mike Boley to round out the LB core.

Jack's sore libido
11-20-2007, 05:55 PM
You know, the more I think about Corey Williams, the more I think it's possible.

The Packers have Ryan Pickett, Johnny Jolly, Cullen Jenkins and first-round draft pick Justin Harrell all on the roster. Will they really be able to justifying matching a big offer for Williams?

I think it might be time to usher Sapp off the field and into the TV studio, and bring in a new 99. That move alone would have such a ripple effect on this defense.