2008 Draft Prospects

[BigTron]

Its never too early. I figured I would start a thread we can discuss any college players who might look good in Silver and Black next year.


Glenn Dorsey and Early Doucet
Tonight LSU's first game in on national TV. Since i wont be able to view the last Raider pre-season game bc of my east coast status ill be watching. I am keeping a close eye on the guy who I would want more than anyone next year... Glenn Dorsey. This guy is a dominating quick 300+ pound DT who is going to be a top talent in next years draft. He would be the PERFECT guy to replace Sapp (when he is done). I dont think we will have a top 5 pick next year but sometimes players can slide when QB's and skill position guys wow everyone. I also am going to watch JR's old target Early Doucet. I would like to see both of theses guys suit up for us next season. LSU is filled with good players so it will be interesting to check out some good prospects.

[BigTron]

Glenn Dorsey is a monster. He was doubled all night basically and still was making plays. He is a surefire top 5 pick. He didnt get pushed back 1 time that i saw even when doubled. I really hope we find a way to land this guy. Kirk Morrison would be unstoppable behind him and Sands with Sapp coming off the bench!

Early Doucet is also a baller. He seems to do everything pretty well. He runs good route's, nice hands, good size/speed. He looks like a 1st rounder.

[Knight]

James Hardy is a 6-7 listed (which means probably 6-6) WR from Indiana of all places, listed by Street and Smith's as the fastest WR in the Big 10. If this guys has hands and any insticts at all he could be a freakin' monster, and playing at Indiana he has flown under the radar a great deal.

[BigTron]

James Hardy is a 6-7 listed (which means probably 6-6) WR from Indiana of all places, listed by Street and Smith's as the fastest WR in the Big 10. If this guys has hands and any insticts at all he could be a freakin' monster, and playing at Indiana he has flown under the radar a great deal.

Interesting. Anytime your big and fast thats a good start.

[hawaiianboy]

Two guys I've got my draft eye on:


Red Bryant: He's a freakin Aggie, but I love his attitude and the way he stacks the run...

Jonathan Stewart: I'm hoping Mike Bush is the Mike Bush we saw pre-injury, but if he's not I think Stewart is an excellent fit for what we do... I fully expect him to right up there with McFadden and Slayton before the year is out...

[Crow]

Mike Hart just saved Michigan's season. Seems like a nice fit for this scheme.

[Crow]

I may have spoke too soon. Still, Hart is pretty good.

[BigTron]

Hart is a beast. Michigan just broke my heart and destroyed a whole season before it got started. I need some Raiders wins this season i cant take this shit anymore.

Kudos to APP ST. WTF was Michigan doing. They were asleep out there. 2 blocked FG's in the 4th!

[BigTron]

Steve Slaton is alos a home run threat. I would love to pair him up with M.Bush next season. He is a Tiki barber clone.


Lots of good RB's:

McFadden
Slaton
R.Rice
Hart
J.Stewart
PJ.HIll

[hawaiianboy]

Geez Adarius Bowman is one impressive looking WR... Looks like he made the right decision transferring out of Carolina...

[RaiderIVlife]

Dorsey sounds good to me already.

2008 draft talk BEFORE the 2007 season has started. Love it.

[Madturk]

Rice had an awesome game the other night. Wouldn't break my heart if we selected him.

[BigTron]

Dorsey sounds good to me already.

2008 draft talk BEFORE the 2007 season has started. Love it.

Haha. It gives you more shit to talk about when football season is over. Im gonna try to formulate my opinion by watching players in person as much as possible. So I can completly obsess over the draft when going thru Raider withdrawl in the offseason.


I want to add Dorsey, McFadden or J.Long!

[CrossBones]

I'm trying to figure out who the hell we'll draft in the third round. :shakehead:

[BigTron]

Haha. I wanted B.Leonard!

[RaiderIVlife]

Brian Leonard does look like a solid player. Had we drafted him, my guess is that Justin Fargas would've been sent packing.

Speaking of Fargas, anyone surpised that he made the cut?

[BigTron]

I was watching the Auburn game and Quintin Groves looks amazing. Im not sure how his game would translate but he was causing terror as a pass rusher! Honeslty as far as Quintin moses goeses, in the age of combine freaks i was my edge rusher to be faster. Thats just me.

[Raider Nation]

I'm not sure what to make the WR class this year. There's a lot of guys who are small but fast (Doucet, Jackson, Manningham) and then a group of guys who are big and not-so-fast (Sweed, Bowman, Urrutia). There doesn't seem to be a "do it all" type of WR this year. Which makes me think it might be wise to go OT with Long, Baker, or any of the talented juniors that may come out.




Oh, and speaking of the LSU defensive line. Yes, Dorsey's most definitely a stud and worthy of a top-10 pick. But keep your eye on DE Tyson Jackson. He stands to benefit from a lot of one-on-one matchups due to Dorsey getting doubled. With the struggles Va Tech had on the offensive line vs. ECU last week it's conceivable that Jackson has a good/great game. He's probably going to end up a mid-1st rounder. He's the definition of a base DE.

[Crow]

Dorsey is definitely my #1 guy at this point. Groves looks like a winner as well, but getting a stud DT whose motor isn't in question ain't easy. If he's there, we have to take him.

I'm normally a proponent of taking OLs in Rd1, but if we're staying with this scheme (which is anything but a certainty considering what we've done the last few years), I don't think we need to go that route.

DT, DE, OLB, and WR seem like the most likely targets at this point. "This point" being 7 1/2 months from the draft, but...ya know.

[BigTron]

McFadden would be the type of player you couldnt pass up if we had a shot at him. McFadden and JaMarcus would be a fantastic start to building a championship offense.

I think Brian Brohm is going to be a lock at #1 next season to the FALCONS! Petrino will be licking is chops at the thought of Vick being gone and being re-united with Brohm.

[Crow]

I'm hoping that we won't be picking high enough for McFadden.


Dorsey looks strong tonight, as does the entire LSU defense. Their offense is going off too.

[007]

I agree with Crow. I hope we are picking more in the 'Slaton-Hart-Stewart' range and not the McFadden range.

Although I would love McFadden in Silver and Black.

I like him better than Peterson, personally.

[BigTron]

I agree with Crow. I hope we are picking more in the 'Slaton-Hart-Stewart' range and not the McFadden range.

Although I would love McFadden in Silver and Black.

I like him better than Peterson, personally.

They both are badass. I think we will be in a positon to take the best guy who falls to us. If its a RB, WR, OL, DL we are all set.

My 5 Raider draft pick hopefuls:

1. D.McFadden
2. G. Dorsey
3. J.Long
4. S.Baker
5. S.Slaton

[007]

Those are my five too.

I probably would put Long at #1 or #2, but if we're lucky we won't even sniff the guy come draft day...Unless we trade up. ;)

[massraider]

I am getting the Virginia game today. Looking forward to seeing Long play for the first time.

Not sure that he fits in with the Raider system. Seems like a base end at best, and a 3-4 guy at worst.

[massraider]

Iowa/Iowa St is on Vs. at 1:30. Iowa has a top DE prospect, Kenny Iwebema. 6'4", 265. Will definitely keep my eyes on him.

Wish I was getting the Kentucky/Louisville game. Love to see Berohm/Woodson.

[BigTron]

I want us to draft a DE who can still get pressure at 285-300 LBs

[BigTron]

If the Raiders dont beat the Browns at home this week, i think its about time we all start watching McFaddens games....

[007]

I would hope the Raiders would trade down into the mid first round, for three reasons.

1) Could we actually afford 4 top 10 picks in the last 5-6 years, including 2 top two overall picks?

2) We don't have 3rd or 5th round picks, and we have a ton of holes to fill

3) This draft is shaping up deep at some need areas (OT, DT and speedy WR's)

[BigTron]

I would hope the Raiders would trade down into the mid first round, for three reasons.

1) Could we actually afford 4 top 10 picks in the last 5-6 years, including 2 top two overall picks?

2) We don't have 3rd or 5th round picks, and we have a ton of holes to fill

3) This draft is shaping up deep at some need areas (OT, DT and speedy WR's)

I agree. BUT McFadden and JaMarcus Russell would be unbelievable. If we had a shot I would be all about drafting him. Dorsey is the other player who is a huge difference maker. If we came out of the draft with one of the two of those guys i would be thrilled. I also believe Brian Brohm is going to be selected #1 overall.

[007]

Russell-McFadden-Miller.

Boner.

I also wouldnt be suprised to see Woodson emerge as the top QB prospect. I like Brohm A LOT, but he's going through the same stuff Quinn, Rodgers and Leinart did as 'consensus' top signal callers early on in the season...Over scrutiny, which could cause him to drop.

[BigTron]

Russell-McFadden-Miller.

Boner.

I also wouldnt be suprised to see Woodson emerge as the top QB prospect. I like Brohm A LOT, but he's going through the same stuff Quinn, Rodgers and Leinart did as 'consensus' top signal callers early on in the season...Over scrutiny, which could cause him to drop.

Woodson does look great. Brian's Brohms wins and #'s are going to be outstanding for his career. I think both guys could be top 5 and at least top 10.

[hawaiianboy]

I really don't want to be in position to draft a McFadden again...


I doubt he comes out as he'll probably want a year as the primary back to try and boost his own draft status to the top half of the first, but I sure wouldn't mind having Felix Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSsaQ0IEbQA) as the compliment to a healthy Mike Bush... Unselfish, spectacular on returns, pretty good hands and a home run threat every time he touches the ball... Kiff could use him like Reggie Bush was used...

There's really nothing in terms of a pass rushing DE, and the two gap tackles are pretty meh... The LB class is stacked though... Dan Conner and Quentin Groves are especially appealing... I would love to have Conner in Black... Maybe a good time to start thinking about playing some of USC's one gap 34 defense... Burgess and Howard as the outside rush backers... Morrison and Dan Conner inside... Tommy Kelly, Richardson and Brayton rotating at the DE spots... Terd and Warren rotating on the nose...

[Madturk]

There's really nothing in terms of a pass rushing DE, and the two gap tackles are pretty meh... The LB class is stacked though... Dan Conner and Quentin Groves are especially appealing... I would love to have Conner in Black... Maybe a good time to start thinking about playing some of USC's one gap 34 defense... Burgess and Howard as the outside rush backers... Morrison and Dan Conner inside... Tommy Kelly, Richardson and Brayton rotating at the DE spots... Terd and Warren rotating on the nose...

More reason we should take a run at Jared Allen IMO. Let's face it, we're just not very good at evaluating DE talent, having whiffed on Quentin Moses. Hopefully Jay Richardson pans out. Brayton is totally useless and Kelly hasn't shown anything this season.

We should have enough wiggle room to get Aso inked and take a run at Allen. Guy looks like he was born to be a Raider. He wants out of KC.

[Crow]

McFadden and Dorsey are insane.

[Crow]

I really don't want to be in position to draft a McFadden again...
Yeah, but...

I doubt he comes out as he'll probably want a year as the primary back to try and boost his own draft status to the top half of the first,
I feel pretty certain that he's a top 5 pick if he declares, barring an unfortunate knee explosion.


but I sure wouldn't mind having Felix Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSsaQ0IEbQA) as the compliment to a healthy Mike Bush... Unselfish, spectacular on returns, pretty good hands and a home run threat every time he touches the ball... Kiff could use him like Reggie Bush was used...
Perhaps, but that McFadden/Bush tandem would be utterly ridiculous.

There's really nothing in terms of a pass rushing DE, and the two gap tackles are pretty meh... The LB class is stacked though... Dan Conner and Quentin Groves are especially appealing... I would love to have Conner in Black... Maybe a good time to start thinking about playing some of USC's one gap 34 defense... Burgess and Howard as the outside rush backers... Morrison and Dan Conner inside... Tommy Kelly, Richardson and Brayton rotating at the DE spots... Terd and Warren rotating on the nose...

I don't even know that Warren is on the roster next year. I'm all for some Wade Phillips style 3-4, though.

But, if we're in position, Glenn Dorsey is a brute. A young Sapp/Tommie Harris type. All motor, which is rare amongst DTs.

[hawaiianboy]

I feel pretty certain that he's a top 5 pick if he declares, barring an unfortunate knee explosion.

My apologies, rereading what I wrote I realize it wasn't clear, but I was referring to Felix Jones and not McFadden there... The more I see Felix, the more I like him... 12 carries for 130 yards and another kick returned for a TD... Like I said I think he'll stay to show what he can do with 25 touches a game without McFadden around, but if he declares early along with McFadden and Slaton, who knows we may be able to get him with our second pick because of the backload of RB's...

[Crow]

Felix looks like a real feast or famine type of back when I've watched him play. Maybe that's just due to the lack of a passing threat in Arkie. He's definitely got the wheels to be a gamebreaker. I wouldn't bitch if we took him in Rd2, as unlikely as that is.

Still want Dorsey, though.

[BigTron]

Owen Schmidt I might have messed his name up, but this guy is the truth. He is 6'3 250+ and runs a 4.5 not to mention he is strong as an OX. He is the Fullback for WVU and he plays like Tom Rathman or a young Alstott. He can block and catch. He would be a great pick-up in the draft because he could be our #2/3 tight end and also play in the backfield if need be. This guy was a walk on at WVU and a hell of a football player. He seems like a very good all around player and im guessing he would be great on ST's.

WVU is one of the best teams to watch. P.White, Slaton and Devine are all so fucking fast its ridiculous. Slaton is going to be a very good package back in the NFL. Im thinking MJD, Westbrook, Reggie Bush type player. Do yourselves a favor and watch some WVU offense this season if you havent. It an exciting brand of offense. Slaton paired with Bush/Jordan would be a sick combo.

[Limee]

Noel Devine is no slouch either.

[BigTron]

Owen Schmidt I might have messed his name up, but this guy is the truth. He is 6'3 250+ and runs a 4.5 not to mention he is strong as an OX. He is the Fullback for WVU and he plays like Tom Rathman or a young Alstott. He can block and catch. He would be a great pick-up in the draft because he could be our #2/3 tight end and also play in the backfield if need be. This guy was a walk on at WVU and a hell of a football player. He seems like a very good all around player and im guessing he would be great on ST's.

WVU is one of the best teams to watch. P.White, Slaton and Devine are all so fucking fast its ridiculous. Slaton is going to be a very good package back in the NFL. Im thinking MJD, Westbrook, Reggie Bush type player. Do yourselves a favor and watch some WVU offense this season if you havent. It an exciting brand of offense. Slaton paired with Bush/Jordan would be a sick combo.

I just wanted to quote myself... i wont lie! :D

[Limee]

Apologies, I did read it all honestly. :o

In future I will just post that I agree with BigTron.

What about Reynaud?

[Jack's sore libido]

I want us to draft a DE who can still get pressure at 285-300 LBs

He ain't 285, but right now USF's George Selvie looks like a mad man.

[BigTron]

Apologies, I did read it all honestly. :o

In future I will just post that I agree with BigTron.

What about Reynaud?

He is impressive too. They all can flat out run. That offense must be a bitch to prepare for. FOCUS ON YOUR KEYS!!! 5 big play sub 4.4 weapons all running around in different directions with a big ass FB taking your head off as you try and figure things out...

I dont know if your friendly post's are because you somehow know my grandfather is from England, but rep rep rep mate! haha

[BigTron]

He ain't 285, but right now USF's George Selvie looks like a mad man.

I havent seen much of the guy play myself but i hear Calias Cambell from Miami is big and can do everyhting very well. He is suppose to be a top DE in next years draft. Anyone got the scoop on this guy. I just saw him get rocked on a crackback block vs Texas A & M

[007]

Campbell was my #1 favorite prospect coming into 2008 (Even though he's a junior) but the dude has been very dissapointing coming off the edge.

At this point he's not looking like a Peppers or Super Mario type edge rusher. The size/athleticism combo is very intriguing though.

He's still super young too.

[Limee]

I dont know if your friendly post's are because you somehow know my grandfather is from England, but rep rep rep mate! haha

Do you know where in England?

I have seen Miami twice and Campbell does get off the snap very quickly at times, but doesn't look to have much in terms of moves when it comes to rushing the passer. He is only a Junior though so he has time to improve. Dorsey has been discussed, but watching Iowa I like the look of Mitch King, he seems pretty athletic so might fit better at DE in the pros. AJ Eads and Elijah Hodge looked good at LB in the same game.

Watching USC against Nebraska last week and their Oline just absolutely dominated the Cornhuskers. We have made big strides, but I certainly wouldn't mind if we went for a tackle in the draft next year. Malcolm Kelly from Oklahoma would probably be the pick of the receivers that I have seen so far.

[BigTron]

Do you know where in England?

I have seen Miami twice and Campbell does get off the snap very quickly at times, but doesn't look to have much in terms of moves when it comes to rushing the passer. He is only a Junior though so he has time to improve. Dorsey has been discussed, but watching Iowa I like the look of Mitch King, he seems pretty athletic so might fit better at DE in the pros. AJ Eads and Elijah Hodge looked good at LB in the same game.

Watching USC against Nebraska last week and their Oline just absolutely dominated the Cornhuskers. We have made big strides, but I certainly wouldn't mind if we went for a tackle in the draft next year. Malcolm Kelly from Oklahoma would probably be the pick of the receivers that I have seen so far.

Brighton in Sussex ? Im sure i spelled it wrong. He is and old timer but i spent alot of time with him when i was younger so i picked up alot of mannerisms...haha. Like saying " Bloody" in front of things when im frustrated. I also love English beer and i dont even mind when its warm. I am a complete ass for never taking a trip over there and its the first place i plan to go when I get a chance to travel.

Frank Okam the DT from Texas would be a nice pick-up too. He seems to play with a nasty streak. I think this year DL and OL positions are going to be thick. SO we should have a chance to upgrade.

[Limee]

My wife lived in Brighton for a year, but I have never been there myself.

[massraider]

Here's a cool site for y'all to bookmark:

http://nfldraftguys.com/

They are doing a regular feaqture on the backs, which I happen to think may be a target for us next spring. Anyone watching any games this week?

[massraider]

Watching LSU/Tulane, and making long sighing sounds every time Dorsey appears.

He is sooo quick off the snap. Tulane seems to be avoiding him in the first half, he hasn't done much.

LSU has this kid, Trindon Holliday--:eek: --Holy fast, Batman.

[Jack's sore libido]

They are doing a regular feaqture on the backs, which I happen to think may be a target for us next spring. Anyone watching any games this week?

I don't know, dude. It'd be hard to cast aside LaMont after the year he's having, and Michael Bush should at least get a chance to prove himself.

Maybe a scatback makes sense to me, but I can't see spending a first-rounder or second-rounder at RB.

[CrossBones]

I'd agree here.

If this is indeed LaMont Jordan's break out year and having Bush in the wings we got bigger fish to fry in the form of DT/DE in the first couple of rounds.

[hawaiianboy]

Here's a cool site for y'all to bookmark:

http://nfldraftguys.com/

They are doing a regular feaqture on the backs, which I happen to think may be a target for us next spring. Anyone watching any games this week?


Interesting site, thanks...

I've got the Cal-Oregon game on... Gotta say, I really love DeSean Jackson... He's got a lot of Marvin Harrison in him in that even though he's only 175 pounds, he never seems to take a direct hit and works well over the middle in addition to being a deep threat...

For Oregon, Jonathan Stewart's stats are going to take a hit with as much as they run their QB out of that speed option shotgun set, but I think he projects very, very well to the NFL as a Frank Gore type back...

I don't know if he'd come out a year early, but Alex Mack from Cal is an impressive center and he's got some size to him...

[CrossBones]

Hey HBoy...how do you like the Oregon unis? Good God.

[massraider]

I don't know, dude. It'd be hard to cast aside LaMont after the year he's having, and Michael Bush should at least get a chance to prove himself.

Maybe a scatback makes sense to me, but I can't see spending a first-rounder or second-rounder at RB.

Me either. Certainly not in the 1st round. I am thinking about a mid rounder to throw into the mix. Tashard Choice, on TV right now, looks like an NFL back to me. Tell you what, watching that Forte kid from Tulane, it's too bad he runs a 4.6, he has great, great rush instincts.

One guy I watched this year, Ray Rice? Meh. He always seems to see the hole a half second later than he should. I don't like him.

As to our RB situation, I am probably in the minority, but I am not sold on Bush. Taking a 'show me' attitude on him. I don't trust those oversized backs.

[Jack's sore libido]

If we're still thinking left tackle, this kid from Alabama, Andre Smith, is just swallowing up Florida State pass rushers.

EDIT: Kid's just a sophomore. If he keeps this up and stays healthy, he'll be picked too high for us in 2009.

[hawaiianboy]

Hey Jack, remember the days when FSU had offensive studs all across the board?... Man, you guys have been fugly on O the past few years...

[Jack's sore libido]

Looks pretty bad all around.

Don't have the smart players they had. Don't have the smart coaches they had.

Never really had much in the way of NFL offensive lineman (Tra Thomas and Walter Jones for one year notwithstanding), but the line was never this bad. Warrick Dunn and those boys always at least had a sliver of breathing room. The past couple years these guys have been running right into the backs of linemen shoved into them.

[hawaiianboy]

Your weekly Felix Jones report:

7 rushes 138 yards 18.9 ypc 2 TD's
3 catches 48 yards


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[007]

I've only got 2 targets right now that are making me salivate...

1) Glenn Dorsey. If we keep playing solid though we won't sniff him. He's the best DT I've seen. (I was 10 years old when Sapp was tearing it up in Miami)

2) DeSean Jackson. As close to Marvin Harrison or Steve Smith as you can find in college. He's got Ted Ginn's speed and moves, but oddly enough he actually plays wideout very well. A PURE WEOPON.

I also like Sam Baker and Calais Campbell, but both are kind of dissapointing this year.

My last thought:

If KC gets Andre Woodson, I'll be pissed. That guy is a great QB. Good arm, accurate, smart, moves around. Big. He's a total package type...

[S and B Executioner]

All this talk about drafting a RB is kinda silly. Right now, we have LJ (who looks absolutely sick) and Dom Rhodes comming off suspension. That's a pretty nice tandem ALL BY ITSELF.

Now, add to that, the fact that our o-line is making Justin Fargas look like freakin Marcus Allen.

Add to that, Michael Bush is reportedly looking healthy and may be a player by Week 6 or 7.

Add to that, Justin Griffith has looked pretty damn nice as the best blocking back we've had since Jon "Bloody My Face" Ritchie". And he has peeled off a couple of nice runs himself.

Without factoring Adam Echionobeewonkenobee, we have a pretty full house of slightly above average talent and an o-line that can turn all of the above into super studs!!

I'd prefer to target DT, DE (a pure edge pass rushing STUD), and WR in this draft.

We have to break this Al Davis type obbsession with glamour positions and start fixing what is actually broke!

[BigTron]

All this talk about drafting a RB is kinda silly. Right now, we have LJ (who looks absolutely sick) and Dom Rhodes comming off suspension. That's a pretty nice tandem ALL BY ITSELF.

Now, add to that, the fact that our o-line is making Justin Fargas look like freakin Marcus Allen.

Add to that, Michael Bush is reportedly looking healthy and may be a player by Week 6 or 7.

Add to that, Justin Griffith has looked pretty damn nice as the best blocking back we've had since Jon "Bloody My Face" Ritchie". And he has peeled off a couple of nice runs himself.

Without factoring Adam Echionobeewonkenobee, we have a pretty full house of slightly above average talent and an o-line that can turn all of the above into super studs!!

I'd prefer to target DT, DE (a pure edge pass rushing STUD), and WR in this draft.

We have to break this Al Davis type obbsession with glamour positions and start fixing what is actually broke!

I agree with you, but I was under the impression LaMont and Porter can both opt out of their contracts after this season. I could be wrong. If that happened we would be left with Rhodes and Fargas who are back-ups, and Michael Bush who could possible be a full time starter. I dont think RB is our #1 priority by any means but i would NEVER pass McFadden if we had a shot at him. Most likely we would be picking too high to get a chance. I am all for D-LIne in this draft. If not we could go O-Line or give JR a young RB/WR to play with.

[RaiderIVlife]

I wouldn't go to sleep on offensive line, despite our new success. OT & C could all make sense, but though I agree that DE, DT, & WR all make sense. Shit, how about SS or 1 more LB?

Bottom line? I agree, RB is the least of our concerns at present. Even if LaMont Jordan decides to walk.

[Freakshow]

It's clear, at least to me, that our biggest "weakness" is at Free Safety. Barring a move by Huff to man that position I'd be very interested in a cat like Kenny Phillips from Miami or Josh Barrett from ASU. Or, assuming we couldn't land a blue-chipper on the d-line like Dorsey or Odam I'd kind of like us to go with another OLB to compliment our two studs Morrison and Howard. Never been a big Sam Williams fan - he just sort of takes up space and rarely makes anything happen. I really like Philip Wheeler from Georgia Tech - fast, instinctive ala D.J. Williams and may fit right in with our defensive scheme.

Center or tackle in the third (assuming we have a third rounder).

[hawaiianboy]

The weekly Felix Jones report:

13 carries/ 141 yards/ 10.8 ypc/ 2 TD's/ long of 59 yards


I've been trying to fall in love with a DT outside of Glenn Dorsey with little luck...

Frank Okam once again looks like a top 20 pick in the 1st quarter then falls off considerably... Too bad he has yet to figure out that improved conditioning would be worth millions of dollars in his pocket come draft day... :shakehead:

[Crow]

No love for Sedrick Ellis (USC)?

[Limee]

I have just watched Wisconsin vs Illinois and I was impressed by Rashard Mendenhall, a power back with some ability to make the defender miss. Illinois also had some very nice run blocking up front.

[BigTron]

I have just watched Wisconsin vs Illinois and I was impressed by Rashard Mendenhall, a power back with some ability to make the defender miss. Illinois also had some very nice run blocking up front.

He has been labeled the best RB people dont mention by a few sites. You may be onto something.

[Freakshow]

If it's a pass-rusher we're looking for, check out the cat from UNLV Jeremy Geathers. He's 6'2", 245 and a bit undersized but an absolute freak off the edge. I'd love him in the 3rd.

[hawaiianboy]

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15 carries - 101 yards - 6.7 ypc - 2 TD's

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[CrossBones]

^^^

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[hawaiianboy]

I don't know if we want to take a shot on drafting another safety vs going the vet route, but I've been impressed with LSU's Craig Steltz everytime I've seem him... He makes very quick reads and tackles well...

If we want to make the switch to a Wade Phillips one gap 34 defense, Quinten Groves would be perfect to pair with Burgess outside as rush backers...

DE: Jay Richardson/ Tyler Brayton
NT: Pat Williams (FA)/Terdell Sands
DE: Gerrard Warren/ Tommy Kelly
OLB: Burgess
ILB: Morrison
ILB: Howard (think Donnie Edwards in SD)
OLB: Groves
CB: Nnamdi
CB: Routt
FS: Huff
SS: Gibril Wilson (FA)

:p

[Crow]

ILB: Howard (think Donnie Edwards in SD)
Thief.

Was that Groves that just blew up the LSU screen? I missed it.

How has Dorsey looked so far?

[hawaiianboy]

Thief.


Huh :confused:


How has Dorsey looked so far?

Auburn just took his knee out with a chopblock.... I'd be real wary of Dorsey gaining any more weight, other than that, looks good to go...

I've been impressed with Howie's kid today... Too bad he didn't have another couple of inches and about 25 more pounds so he could be a full time DT... As it is, he looks like an Aaron Kampman type DE...

[Crow]

Huh :confused:
I've been making that comparison regarding a move to the 3-4 since last year. Fucker.

Auburn just took his knee out with a chopblock.... I'd be real wary of Dorsey gaining any more weight, other than that, looks good to go...

I've been impressed with Howie's kid today... Too bad he didn't have another couple of inches and about 25 more pounds so he could be a full time DT... As it is, he looks like an Aaron Kampman type DE...

High praise, considering Kampman is one of the few guys who can get double digit sacks and triple digit tackles in the same season. I'd take one of those.

[Jack's sore libido]

I'm sitting here watching Maryland/UVa in tape delay, and came in here to post about Chris Long.

Wouldn't mind at all if the Raiders burned a 2 on him.

As for UNLV ... the only player from that team I have any interest in is Beau Bell, who is all over the field every week.

[BigTron]

Long is top 15 material. If we get a shot at him i'll be stoked. I believe a DE should weigh 275+ and hold down his side of the line. This kid can do that. Burgess would be a GREAT compliment to Long.

[Crow]

I'm sitting here watching Maryland/UVa in tape delay, and came in here to post about Chris Long.

Wouldn't mind at all if the Raiders burned a 2 on him.

As for UNLV ... the only player from that team I have any interest in is Beau Bell, who is all over the field every week.

He'd have to piss hot and beat up a stripper to fall out of Rd1. Between lineage and the fact that he's the only guy I've ever heard of who's managed double digit sacks as a 2 gap 34 end and you're looking at a possible top 10 pick.

The only things holding him back right now are concerns about his size (Most feel that 280 is being generous) and where he best fits in the pros. If his playing weight is closer to 265-270, he's not going to play E in a 3-4. Can he move farther outside to play E in a 4-3? Probably. But that's strictly projection at this point. Can he be a 43 RE? That's the question our people have to answer. If he can't get around NFL LTs, then he'd be another Tyler Brayton.

I've even read speculation that he might be a better fit as a 3-4 OLB, but that's a stretch I think.

[Limee]

Watched Penn State at Indiana and the Hoosiers have a very intriguing WR prospect in James Hardy. He is 6'7, supposedly runs a 4.4, good routes and catches ball with his hands. He had 14 catches for 142yds and 2 TDs. The only problem might be that his favourite player is Randy Moss.

[hawaiianboy]

I've been making that comparison regarding a move to the 3-4 since last year. Fucker.


Well if you're going to all of a sudden start making sense like that, I may have to start actually reading your posts... ;)


I actually prefer to run a 43 with a Stroud/John Henderson type of pairing, but I think we're more likely to stumble onto a rush LB or two than we are to find a couple of fat assed tackles and a pass rusher...

[Crow]

Agreed. Seems like the NCAA is churning out 3-4 ends and OLBs. Stud NTs are still a rarity, though.

[007]

Stud NTs are still a rarity, though.

And in the end, thats what 3-4's live and die by, IMO.

Jamal Williams, Wilfork, Hampton etc.

You don't have one of those guys, usually you have a pretty crappy 3-4.

[Limee]

I wonder how Felix Jones got on this week.

[Jack's sore libido]

F. Jones: 17-89-1; 1-22-0

[Limee]

How did you find out? I paid $19.99 for that info and I still haven't received my Felix Jones signed coconut holder. :mad:

[BigTron]

Mario Manningham is more and more impressive. He would be a great addition to the WR core.

[Crow]

Felix Jones: 4-119-2 so far.

[BigTron]

Yeah Felix and McFadden are both amazing. Felix reminds me a bit of Steve Slaton he's so shifty and fast. McFadden seems like he will be a good match for the pro game. Al of these backs would look good in S&B.

[hawaiianboy]

Anybody see that LB from Navy make that sick leap over a blocker to make a tackle?... Very Levar Arrington like... Hopefully someone youtubes it...

Got to give it up to Darren McFadden who finally looked like the player he was last year...




How did you find out? I paid $19.99 for that info and I still haven't received my Felix Jones signed coconut holder. :mad:

Hey Percy, it's not my fault you opted for the lay-a-away plan...


Today's Felix Jones Report:

13 carries - 165 yards - 12.7 ypc - 3TD's

Year to date:

8 games -

111 carries - 1028 yards - 9.2 ypc - 11 TD's
14 kick returns - 442 yards - 31.6 ypr - 2 TD's


Just about the same production as Darren McFadden on about half the touches... :D


Tron, he reminds me of a bigger, thicker Charlie Garner... It's a damn shame that they don't use him more as a pass receiver IMO...

[BigTron]

Anybody see that LB from Navy make that sick leap over a blocker to make a tackle?... Very Levar Arrington like... Hopefully someone youtubes it...

Got to give it up to Darren McFadden who finally looked like the player he was last year...






Hey Percy, it's not my fault you opted for the lay-a-away plan...


Today's Felix Jones Report:

13 carries - 165 yards - 12.7 ypc - 3TD's

Year to date:

8 games -

111 carries - 1028 yards - 9.2 ypc - 11 TD's
14 kick returns - 442 yards - 31.6 ypr - 2 TD's


Just about the same production as Darren McFadden on about half the touches... :D


Tron, he reminds me of a bigger, thicker Charlie Garner... It's a damn shame that they don't use him more as a pass receiver IMO...

Charlie was one of my favorite RB's. There are some exciting guys out there. Make Lamont look like a dinosaur..

[Stanny]

Felix and his running style actually reminds me of Adrian Peterson. They are no built the same, but they run someone up-right, make one move and turn on the afterburner....Garner had more wiggle and could go 0-60 in seconds but stayed at 60. Felix doesn't have that 0-60 burst, but still gets the motor running and can continue to accelerate if that made sense?? Poor mans Reggie Bush who can do it all....great player. He'd be a great 3rd round pick....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_8OLufobMc

[Crow]

We don't have a 3rd round pick...

[Stanny]

We don't have a 3rd round pick...

Come draft day we will....Al loves the 3rd round. But yes you are correct, we currently do not hold one. Let's give a team (Packers) Lamont, Stuey and a
5th round pick for their 3rd and 6th....sold, sold, sold.:D

[BigTron]

I take a 14th rounder fo STu and Lamont.

[Stanny]

I take a 14th rounder fo STu and Lamont.

:pound::D:rotf:

[Jack's sore libido]

Anyone just see Mario Manningham break his foot off in Wisconsin's ass?

[Jack's sore libido]

That said, he's kinda gone T.O.-lite on his QB.

[BigTron]

That said, he's kinda gone T.O.-lite on his QB.

Yeah i was about to post the same thing. He is a monster deep threat. A homerun hitter at WR if you will. But his attitude might hold him back. I am a MIchigan fan and he seems like a prick.

[hawaiianboy]

I've been really impressed with Jordy Nelson this year... He's going to one of those guys that doesn't run fast enough at the combine, but he's got good size and he plays fast... He's probably the least talked about star players in football... He'll probably end up in the 2nd round range before it's done...


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JaMarcus to Jordy has a certain ring to it...http://www.afcwestforums.com/forums/images/dark_smilies/biggrin.gif
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[Jack's sore libido]

What's not to like? Check out these freakin' numbers ...

@Auburn, 9-90
San Jose State, 6-82
Missouri State, 15-209
@Texas, 12-116
Kansas, 10-137
Colorado, 4-93
@Oklahoma State, 12-176
Baylor, 8-105
@Iowa State, 14-214
@Nebraska, 9-125

He's got 8 TDs this year.

[BigTron]

If we add two legit starters and get some depth ill be happy with the draft. My guess is we go Skill position and D-Line with the first two picks. In no order.

RB, DT , WR, DE

The line gets upgraded through FA and Mario Henderson gets a shot. Simms is gone and his big contract is too. Gallery better stop fucking up or AL is going be asking for a paycut.

[Jack's sore libido]

I'm watching the Troy-Middle Tennesee game tonight, and this kid Bradley Robinson just became the Sun Belt's all-time leader in interceptions.

So I went to draftscout to look him up, and he was waaaaaay down their list of prospects, most likely because they've got him listed at 5-foot-7.

But Middle Tennessee's Web site lists him at 5-10.

Three inches is a HUGE difference. Should be interesting to see how tall he measures at the combine.

[Limee]

What did you think of Troy's CB Leodis McKelvin? I thought he looked very solid against Oklahoma State and Bowman in particular when I watched him.

[Jack's sore libido]

What did you think of Troy's CB Leodis McKelvin? I thought he looked very solid against Oklahoma State and Bowman in particular when I watched him.

I certainly liked what I saw of him on the couple occasions where they actually kicked to him. He had a burst of speed and seemed very quick, too.

But McKelvin will go higher than I want to spend a pick on another CB.

[Limee]

I thought he looked to have a very good closing burst and played the ball well. I haven't really looked at any rankings at this stage and I agree we certainly have higher priorities than CB.