Tom Walsh? Beyond Google?

[JC]

Angry Pope...I guess this is your department

I have not been able to find a damn thing about Tom Walsh as far as our stats and offensive rankings with him as the OC? Just curious what it was like with him calling the plays.

[Angry Pope]

A story on Tom Walsh...notice the quote at the bottom....

NEIL HAYES: TIMES COLUMNIST

A very unlikely offensive coordinator

Much has been made of Al Davis' decision to fire Art Shell after the 1994 season since the recently rehired Raiders coach emerged as a candidate to replace Norv Turner. Davis often has said that he regrets firing Shell.

The details leading up to Shell's leaving the team after 27 years as a player and coach were lost on many Bay Area fans caught up in the excitement that followed the team announcing it would return to Oakland five months later.

That's a shame because they are missing the irony in the recent news that Shell is on the verge of elevating Tom Walsh, who has not worked as an NFL coach since leaving the Raiders and currently owns and operates Hansen Guest Ranch, which advertises itself as a horse-friendly bed and breakfast in remote Swan Valley, Idaho.

Walsh may be the first offensive coordinator in NFL history who holds a political office. He's the mayor of Swan Valley.

"I prefer anything delivered to the media come from a spokesperson of the Raiders," Walsh said from his ranch.

Those who followed the Raiders closely in 1994 were surprised to learn that Shell is expected to make Walsh his offensive coordinator.
Shocked may be a better word. Stunned even.

Walsh wasn't one of the "back-stabbers" on his staff that Shell claimed criticized him to owner Al Davis, costing him his job after the 1994 season, but the person whom Shell most wants as his right-hand man to begin his second tenure as Raiders coach played a role in Shell's being fired in the first place.

Shell left team headquarters in El Segundo at 11 a.m. on Feb. 2, 1995.
Just two hours later, Mike White, whom Shell never named publicly but who insiders say was one of the three assistant coaches Shell accused of disloyalty, was introduced as the team's new coach at a press conference.

"It was one of the most trying seasons I'd ever been involved in as a coach, player or whatever," Shell would later tell the Charleston (S.C.) Post and Courier, his hometown newspaper.

White was able to curry favor with Davis in large part because the offensive-oriented White persuaded Davis he could improve Walsh's offense, which failed to establish a consistent running game and surrendered 50 sacks in 1994.

That's what set in motion what must have been five of the most awkward weeks in Art Shell's life.

The Raiders finished 10-6 in 1993, remember, before losing to the Buffalo Bills 29-23 in an AFC divisional playoff game. Heading into the 1994 season they were a popular choice to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl.

They lost four of their first six games and, although they rebounded to win seven of nine, they were outplayed by the Kansas Chiefs in the season finale and denied a playoff berth.

That season was not unlike many of the seasons that have followed. The team was plagued by inconsistency, lack of discipline (they set an NFL record with 156 penalties) and a lack of cohesion and chemistry.

Internal squabbles became public when quarterback Jeff Hostetler and Shell were involved in a face-to-face confrontation in full view of fans and a national TV audience late in the first half of an overtime loss to Miami.
The shouting match was reportedly the result of Hostetler changing plays that had been shuttled into the huddle by Shell and/or Walsh.

Davis began interviewing coaching candidates while Shell was still serving as head coach. White was dispatched to Phoenix to recruit Joe Bugel as an assistant before Davis made what must have been one of the most agonizing decisions of his career: firing Shell, one of the cornerstones of the team's success in the 1970s and early '80s.

Now it comes full circle.

Davis hasn't had any problem selling his decision to re-hire Shell. For the most part, the decision has been well received, if for no other reason than there were few alternatives.

Shell might have a more difficult time selling his decision to hire Walsh, whose most recent on-field experience was as the coach and director of football operations for the Regional Football League's Mobile Admirals in 1999. Before that, he coached at Idaho State for two years before being asked to resign late in the 1998 season. His two-season record was 6-18.

"It's vitally important for the success of this football team that Tom Walsh be the guy," said Shell's representative, Danny More. "Art knows Tom better than anyone and trusts his offense."

It is an unconventional hire. That's for sure. Then again, convention has little to do with the story of Art Shell and the Raiders.

[Angry Pope]

JC, I believe he became our OC in 1992...here is the points scored...

1992 Los Angeles Raiders

Record: 7 - 9 - 0
Head Coach: Art Shell

Points scored: 249 (#23 of 28 in the NFL)
Points allowed: 281 (#11 of 28 in the NFL)


Game-by-game results

+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| Week | Opponent | Result | Score |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| 1 | at Denver Broncos | L | 13-17 |
| 2 | at Cincinnati Bengals | L | 21-24 |
| 3 | Cleveland Browns | L | 16-28 |
| 4 | at Kansas City Chiefs | L | 7-27 |
| 5 | New York Giants | W | 13-10 |
| 6 | Buffalo Bills | W | 20- 3 |
| 7 | at Seattle Seahawks | W | 19- 0 |
| 8 | Dallas Cowboys | L | 13-28 |
| 9 | |
| 10 | at Philadelphia Eagles | L | 10-31 |
| 11 | Seattle Seahawks | W | 20- 3 |
| 12 | Denver Broncos | W | 24- 0 |
| 13 | at San Diego Chargers | L | 3-27 |
| 14 | Kansas City Chiefs | W | 28- 7 |
| 15 | at Miami Dolphins | L | 7-20 |
| 16 | San Diego Chargers | L | 14-36 |
| 17 | at Washington Redskins | W | 21-20 |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------

[Angry Pope]

1993 Los Angeles Raiders

Record: 10 - 6 - 0
Head Coach: Art Shell

Points scored: 306 (#14 of 28 in the NFL)
Points allowed: 326 (#21 of 28 in the NFL)



Game-by-game results

+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| Week | Opponent | Result | Score |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| 1 | Minnesota Vikings | W | 24- 7 |
| 2 | at Seattle Seahawks | W | 17-13 |
| 3 | Cleveland Browns | L | 16-19 |
| 4 | |
| 5 | at Kansas City Chiefs | L | 9-24 |
| 6 | New York Jets | W | 24-20 |
| 7 | at Denver Broncos | W | 23-20 |
| 8 | |
| 9 | San Diego Chargers | L | 23-30 |
| 10 | at Chicago Bears | W | 16-14 |
| 11 | Kansas City Chiefs | L | 20-31 |
| 12 | at San Diego Chargers | W | 12- 7 |
| 13 | at Cincinnati Bengals | L | 10-16 |
| 14 | at Buffalo Bills | W | 25-24 |
| 15 | Seattle Seahawks | W | 27-23 |
| 16 | Tampa Bay Buccaneers | W | 27-20 |
| 17 | at Green Bay Packers | L | 0-28 |
| 18 | Denver Broncos | W | 33-30 |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+


Postseason

AFC Wildcard Game: won 42 - 24 vs. Denver Broncos
AFC Divisional Playoff: lost 23 - 29 at Buffalo Bills

[Angry Pope]

1994 Los Angeles Raiders

Record: 9 - 7 - 0
Head Coach: Art Shell

Points scored: 303 (#19 of 28 in the NFL)
Points allowed: 327 (#17 of 28 in the NFL)


Game-by-game results

+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| Week | Opponent | Result | Score |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+
| 1 | at San Francisco 49ers | L | 14-44 |
| 2 | Seattle Seahawks | L | 9-38 |
| 3 | at Denver Broncos | W | 48-16 |
| 4 | San Diego Chargers | L | 24-26 |
| 5 | |
| 6 | at New England Patriots | W | 21-17 |
| 7 | at Miami Dolphins | L | 17-20 |
| 8 | Atlanta Falcons | W | 30-17 |
| 9 | Houston Oilers | W | 17-14 |
| 10 | at Kansas City Chiefs | L | 3-13 |
| 11 | at Los Angeles Rams | W | 20-17 |
| 12 | New Orleans Saints | W | 24-19 |
| 13 | Pittsburgh Steelers | L | 3-21 |
| 14 | at San Diego Chargers | W | 24-17 |
| 15 | Denver Broncos | W | 23-13 |
| 16 | at Seattle Seahawks | W | 17-16 |
| 17 | Kansas City Chiefs | L | 9-19 |
+--------+-------------------------------+----------+---------+

[Angry Pope]

Here is points and yards ranked...

Here is the year, record, HC and where we ranked in offensive and defensive categories....

Year..Record..Head Coach..Offensive Rank(Pts/Yds)..Defensive Rank(Pts/Yds)..No. of Teams


2005 4-12-0 Turner 23 21 25 27 32

2004 5-11-0 Turner 18 20 31 30 32

2003 4-12-0 Callahan 27 25 26 30 32

2002 11-5-0 Callahan 2 2 6 12 32

2001 10-6-0 Gruden 4 10 19 15 31

2000 12-4-0 Gruden 3 7 9 19 31

1999 8-8-0 Gruden 8 5 16 13 31

1998 8-8-0 Gruden 22 15 20 4 30

1997 4-12-0 Bugel 17 10 28 30 30

1996 7-9-0 White 12 9 8 7 30

1995 8-8-0 White 16 11 11 15 30

1994 9-7-0 Shell 19 17 17 12 28

1993 10-6-0 Shell 14 12 21 10 28

1992 7-9-0 Shell 23 20 11 8 28

1991 9-7-0 Shell 15 23 13 23 28

1990 12-4-0 Shell 13 21 7 4 28

1989 8-8-0 Shanahan, Shell 18 18 10 9 28

1988 7-9-0 Shanahan 16 18 23 19 28

1987 5-10-0 Flores 17 7 8 5 28

1986 8-8-0 Flores 16 7 19 8 28

1985 12-4-0 Flores 12 13 9 7 28

1984 11-5-0 Flores 9 15 4 3 28

1983 12-4-0 Flores 3 7 13 4 28

1982 8-1-0 Flores 2 8 22 25 28

1981 7-9-0 Flores 25 19 15 21 28

1980 11-5-0 Flores 7 15 10 14 28

1979 9-7-0 Flores 7 12 17 21 28

1978 9-7-0 Madden 10 9 11 15 28

1977 11-3-0 Madden 1 2 14 16 28

1976 13-1-0 Madden 4 2 12 19 28

1975 11-3-0 Madden 4 5 7 5 26

1974 12-2-0 Madden 1 2 9 20 26

1973 9-4-1 Madden 10 1 3 2 26

1972 10-3-1 Madden 3 2 8 11 26

1971 8-4-2 Madden 2 14 26

1970 8-4-2 Madden 9 19 26

[JC]

Great....middle of the pack, just what I figured.

Thanks for the info, AP...you the man!

[CrossBones]

Shell seems to be betting the farm on a guy (Walsh) who's been completely out of football for a LONG time. I'm not sure I'm thrilled with this hire.

Thoughts?

[JC]

I gave my two cents...middle of the pack in the early 90's running the offense, doesn't really inspire confidence.

[Angry Pope]

Shell seems to be betting the farm on a guy (Walsh) who's been completely out of football for a LONG time. I'm not sure I'm thrilled with this hire.

Thoughts?

I hope that I am missing something but right now I am not thrilled about it either.

[CrossBones]

Really I think Art might have fired without thinking this one through.

Walsh is really drawing to an inside straight. Not too impressed. I mean we were somewhat worried about Art being away from the game for a while. This Walsh ]guy has bee nrunning a friggin' Dude Ranch in Idaho? OMG. :rolleyes:

[JC]

Well, could be worse...John Shoop could be running the show...his playcalling was awful for Chicago.

[Rupert]

Umm, guys? Who were the stellar back we had during shell's tenure?
What about the roster? Any clues how good those teams really were?

[Angry Pope]

1990 Roster...

Player Pos G GS Birthdate College

Allen, Marcus RB 16 15 03/26/1960 Southern California

Anderson, Eddie DB 16 16 07/22/1963 Fort Valley State

Bartlewski, Rich TE 4 0 08/15/1967 Fresno State

Bell, Greg RB 6 0 08/01/1962 Notre Dame

Benson, Thomas LB 16 16 09/06/1961 Oklahoma

Brown, Ron WR 16 0 03/31/1961 Arizona State

Brown, Tim WR 16 0 07/22/1966 Notre Dame

Burton, Ron LB 5 0 05/02/1964 North Carolina

Charles, Mike DT 10 0 09/23/1962 Syracuse

Davis, Scott DE 16 16 08/07/1965 Illinois

Dorn, Torin DB 16 0 02/29/1968 North Carolina

Dyal, Mike TE 3 2 05/20/1966 Texas A&M - Kingsville

Ellison, Riki LB 16 15 08/15/1960 Southern California

Evans, Vince QB 5 0 06/14/1955 Southern California

Fernandez, Mervyn WR 16 15 12/29/1959 San Jose State

Fitzpatrick, James OT 11 1 02/01/1964 Southern California

Gault, Willie WR 16 16 09/05/1960 Tennessee

Golic, Bob DT 16 16 10/26/1957 Notre Dame

Gordon, Alex LB 10 0 09/14/1964 Cincinnati

Gossett, Jeff P 16 0 01/25/1957 Eastern Illinois

Graddy, Sam WR 16 0 02/10/1964 Tennessee

Graves, Rory OT 15 15 07/21/1963 Ohio State

Harden, Mike DB 15 15 02/16/1958 Michigan

Holland, Jamie WR 16 0 02/01/1964 Ohio State

Horton, Ethan TE 16 14 12/19/1962 North Carolina

Hunley, Ricky LB 11 0 11/11/1961 Arizona

Jackson, Bo RB 10 0 11/30/1962 Auburn

Jaeger, Jeff K 16 0 11/26/1964 Washington

Jimerson, A.J. LB 4 0 05/12/1968 Norfolk State

Land, Dan DB 16 0 07/03/1965 Albany State

Lewis, Garry DB 12 5 08/25/1967 Alcorn State

Long, Howie DE 12 11 01/06/1960 Villanova

McCallum, Napoleon RB 16 0 10/06/1963 Navy

McDaniel, Terry DB 16 13 02/08/1965 Tennessee

McElroy, Vann DB 3 0 01/13/1960 Baylor

Montoya, Max OG 16 16 05/12/1956 UCLA

Mosebar, Don C 16 16 09/11/1961 Southern California

Mueller, Vance RB 16 1 05/05/1964 Occidental

Parker, Andy TE 5 0 09/08/1961 Utah

Patterson, Elvis DB 16 1 10/21/1960 Kansas

Peat, Todd OG 16 1 05/20/1964 Northern Illinois

Pickel, Bill DT 14 3 11/05/1959 Rutgers

Robinson, Jerry LB 16 16 12/18/1956 UCLA

Rother, Tim DT 4 0 09/28/1965 Nebraska

Schroeder, Jay QB 16 16 06/28/1961 UCLA

Smith, Steve RB 16 15 08/30/1964 Penn State

Townsend, Greg DE 16 16 11/03/1961 Texas Christian

Turk, Dan C 16 0 06/25/1962 Wisconsin

Wallace, Aaron LB 16 0 04/17/1967 Texas A&M

Washington, Lionel DB 15 15 10/21/1960 Tulane

Wilkerson, Bruce OT 8 1 07/28/1964 Tennessee

Wise, Mike DE 12 2 06/05/1964 California-Davis

Wisniewski, Steve OG 16 16 04/07/1967 Penn State

Wright, Steve OT 16 16 04/08/1959 Northern Iowa

[Angry Pope]

1991 Los Angeles Raiders Roster


Allen, Marcus RB 8 2 03/26/1960 Southern California

Anderson, Eddie DB 16 16 07/22/1963 Fort Valley State

Bell, Nick RB 9 1 08/19/1968 Iowa

Benson, Thomas LB 16 14 09/06/1961 Oklahoma

Brown, Tim WR 16 1 07/22/1966 Notre Dame

Craig, Roger RB 15 13 07/10/1960 Nebraska

Crudup, Derrick DB 16 0 02/15/1965 Oklahoma

Davis, Scott DE 16 16 08/07/1965 Illinois

Dorn, Torin DB 16 1 02/29/1968 North Carolina

Ellison, Riki LB 16 15 08/15/1960 Southern California

Evans, Vince QB 4 0 06/14/1955 Southern California

Fernandez, Mervyn WR 16 13 12/29/1959 San Jose State

Fitzpatrick, James OT 16 4 02/01/1964 Southern California

Gault, Willie WR 16 15 09/05/1960 Tennessee

Glover, Andrew TE 16 1 08/12/1967 Grambling

Golic, Bob DT 16 14 10/26/1957 Notre Dame

Gossett, Jeff P 16 0 01/25/1957 Eastern Illinois

Graddy, Sam WR 12 0 02/10/1964 Tennessee

Graves, Rory OT 3 0 07/21/1963 Ohio State

Harrison, Nolan DE 14 3 01/25/1969 Indiana

Hart, Roy DT 1 0 07/10/1965 South Carolina

Holland, Jamie WR 16 0 02/01/1964 Ohio State

Horton, Ethan TE 16 16 12/19/1962 North Carolina

Jaeger, Jeff K 16 0 11/26/1964 Washington

Jimerson, A.J. LB 13 0 05/12/1968 Norfolk State

Jones, Mike LB 16 0 04/15/1969 Missouri

Land, Dan DB 16 0 07/03/1965 Albany State

Lewis, Garry DB 16 2 08/25/1967 Alcorn State

Lloyd, Doug RB 1 0 08/31/1965 North Dakota State

Long, Howie DE 14 13 01/06/1960 Villanova

Lott, Ronnie DB 16 16 05/08/1959 Southern California

Marinovich, Todd QB 1 1 07/04/1969 Southern California

McCallum, Napoleon RB 16 0 10/06/1963 Navy

McDaniel, Terry DB 16 16 02/08/1965 Tennessee

McElroy, Reggie OT 16 5 03/04/1960 West Texas State

Montoya, Max OG 11 10 05/12/1956 UCLA

Mosebar, Don C 16 16 09/11/1961 Southern California

Moss, Winston LB 16 16 12/24/1965 Miami

Patten, Joel OT 1 0 02/07/1958 Duke

Patterson, Elvis DB 16 0 10/21/1960 Kansas

Robinson, Jerry LB 16 0 12/18/1956 UCLA

Schroeder, Jay QB 15 15 06/28/1961 UCLA

Smith, Anthony DE 16 2 06/28/1967 Arizona

Smith, Steve RB 16 16 08/30/1964 Penn State

Townsend, Greg DE 16 16 11/03/1961 Texas Christian

Turk, Dan C 16 0 06/25/1962 Wisconsin

Wallace, Aaron LB 16 0 04/17/1967 Texas A&M

Washington, Lionel DB 16 16 10/21/1960 Tulane

Wilkerson, Bruce OT 16 16 07/28/1964 Tennessee

Wilson, Marcus RB 1 0 04/16/1968 Virginia

Wisniewski, Steve OG 15 15 04/07/1967 Penn State

Wright, Steve OT 16 16 04/08/1959 Northern Iowa

[Angry Pope]

1992 Los Angeles Raiders Roster

Player Pos G GS Birthdate College

Allen, Marcus RB 16 0 03/26/1960 Southern California

Anderson, Eddie DB 16 16 07/22/1963 Fort Valley State

Bell, Anthony LB 16 5 07/02/1964 Michigan State

Bell, Nick RB 16 1 08/19/1968 Iowa

Benson, Thomas LB 1 0 09/06/1961 Oklahoma

Broughton, Willie DT 16 8 09/09/1964 Miami

Brown, Tim WR 15 12 07/22/1966 Notre Dame

Bruce, Aundray DE 16 4 04/30/1966 Auburn

Dickerson, Eric RB 16 15 09/02/1960 Southern Methodist

Dorn, Torin DB 15 0 02/29/1968 North Carolina

Ellison, Riki LB 12 12 08/15/1960 Southern California

Evans, Vince QB 5 0 06/14/1955 Southern California

Fernandez, Mervyn WR 15 1 12/29/1959 San Jose State

Gainer, Derrick RB 2 0 08/15/1966 Florida A&M

Gault, Willie WR 16 16 09/05/1960 Tennessee

Glover, Andrew TE 16 2 08/12/1967 Grambling

Golic, Bob DT 9 7 10/26/1957 Notre Dame

Gossett, Jeff P 16 0 01/25/1957 Eastern Illinois

Graddy, Sam WR 7 1 02/10/1964 Tennessee

Harrison, Nolan DE 14 14 01/25/1969 Indiana

Horton, Ethan TE 16 16 12/19/1962 North Carolina

Hoskins, Derrick DB 16 0 11/14/1970 Southern Mississippi

Jaeger, Jeff K 16 0 11/26/1964 Washington

Jones, David TE 16 0 11/09/1968 Delaware State

Jones, Mike LB 16 0 04/15/1969 Missouri

Land, Dan DB 16 0 07/03/1965 Albany State

Long, Howie DE 16 16 01/06/1960 Villanova

Lott, Ronnie DB 16 16 05/08/1959 Southern California

Marinovich, Todd QB 7 7 07/04/1969 Southern California

McCallum, Napoleon RB 13 0 10/06/1963 Navy

McDaniel, Terry DB 16 16 02/08/1965 Tennessee

McElroy, Reggie OT 16 12 03/04/1960 West Texas State

McGlockton, Chester DT 10 0 09/16/1969 Clemson

Montoya, Max OG 10 9 05/12/1956 UCLA

Mosebar, Don C 16 16 09/11/1961 Southern California

Moss, Winston LB 15 15 12/24/1965 Miami

Patterson, Elvis DB 15 0 10/21/1960 Kansas

Peat, Todd OG 16 8 05/20/1964 Northern Illinois

Schroeder, Jay QB 13 9 06/28/1961 UCLA

Seale, Sam DB 5 0 10/06/1962 Western State

Skrepenak, Greg OG 10 0 01/31/1970 Michigan

Smith, Anthony DE 15 1 06/28/1967 Arizona

Smith, Kevin RB 1 0 07/25/1969 UCLA

Smith, Steve RB 16 15 08/30/1964 Penn State

Townsend, Greg DE 14 14 11/03/1961 Texas Christian

Turk, Dan C 16 0 06/25/1962 Wisconsin

Wallace, Aaron LB 16 16 04/17/1967 Texas A&M

Washington, Lionel DB 16 16 10/21/1960 Tulane

Waymer, Dave DB 16 0 07/01/1958 Notre Dame

Wilkerson, Bruce OT 15 15 07/28/1964 Tennessee

Wisniewski, Steve OG 16 16 04/07/1967 Penn State

Wright, Alexander WR 10 1 07/19/1967 Auburn

Wright, Steve OT 7 4 04/08/1959 Northern Iowa

[Angry Pope]

1993 Los Angeles Raiders Roster

Player Pos G GS Birthdate College

Anderson, Eddie DB 16 16 07/22/1963 Fort Valley State

Bates, Patrick DB 13 0 11/27/1970 Texas A&M

Bell, Nick RB 10 3 08/19/1968 Iowa

Biekert, Greg LB 16 0 03/14/1969 Colorado

Broughton, Willie DT 15 0 09/09/1964 Miami

Brown, Tim WR 16 16 07/22/1966 Notre Dame

Bruce, Aundray DE 16 0 04/30/1966 Auburn

Dixon, Rickey DB 9 0 12/26/1966 Oklahoma

Dorn, Torin DB 15 0 02/29/1968 North Carolina

Duff, John DE 1 0 07/31/1967 New Mexico

Evans, Vince QB 8 1 06/14/1955 Southern California

Fulcher, David DB 3 0 09/28/1964 Arizona State

Gault, Willie WR 15 0 09/05/1960 Tennessee

Glover, Andrew TE 15 0 08/12/1967 Grambling

Gossett, Jeff P 16 0 01/25/1957 Eastern Illinois

Harrison, Nolan DE 16 14 01/25/1969 Indiana

Hobbs, Daryl WR 3 0 05/23/1968 Pacific

Horton, Ethan TE 16 16 12/19/1962 North Carolina

Hoskins, Derrick DB 16 16 11/14/1970 Southern Mississippi

Hostetler, Jeff QB 15 15 04/22/1961 West Virginia

Ismail, Raghib WR 13 0 11/18/1969 Notre Dame

Jaeger, Jeff K 16 0 11/26/1964 Washington

Jett, James WR 16 1 12/28/1970 West Virginia

Jones, Mike LB 16 2 04/15/1969 Missouri


Jordan, Randy RB 10 2 06/06/1970 North Carolina

Kelly, Joe LB 16 14 12/11/1964 Washington

Land, Dan DB 15 0 07/03/1965 Albany State

Lanier, Ken OT 2 2 07/08/1959 Florida State

Long, Howie DE 16 16 01/06/1960 Villanova

McCallum, Napoleon RB 13 1 10/06/1963 Navy

McDaniel, Terry DB 16 16 02/08/1965 Tennessee

McGlockton, Chester DT 16 16 09/16/1969 Clemson

Montgomery, Tyrone RB 12 0 08/03/1970 Mississippi

Montoya, Max OG 16 16 05/12/1956 UCLA

Mosebar, Don C 16 16 09/11/1961 Southern California

Moss, Winston LB 16 16 12/24/1965 Miami

Patterson, Elvis DB 3 0 10/21/1960 Kansas

Peat, Todd OG 16 0 05/20/1964 Northern Illinois

Perry, Gerald OT 15 15 11/12/1964 Southern

Robinson, Greg RB 12 12 08/08/1969 Northeast Louisiana

Smith, Anthony DE 16 2 06/28/1967 Arizona

Smith, Kevin RB 10 1 07/25/1969 UCLA

Smith, Steve RB 16 13 08/30/1964 Penn State

Stephens, Richard OL 16 1 01/01/1965 Tulsa

Townsend, Greg DE 16 16 11/03/1961 Texas Christian

Trapp, James DB 14 2 12/28/1969 Clemson

Turk, Dan C 16 0 06/25/1962 Wisconsin

Wallace, Aaron LB 16 14 04/17/1967 Texas A&M

Washington, Lionel DB 16 16 10/21/1960 Tulane

Wilkerson, Bruce OT 14 14 07/28/1964 Tennessee

Wisniewski, Steve OG 16 16 04/07/1967 Penn State

Wright, Alexander WR 15 15 07/19/1967 Auburn

[Angry Pope]

1994 Los Angeles Raiders Roster

Player Pos G GS Birthdate College

Anderson, Eddie DB 14 14 07/22/1963 Fort Valley State

Ball, Jerry DT 16 14 12/15/1964 Southern Methodist

Bates, Patrick DB 16 9 11/27/1970 Texas A&M

Bender, Wes RB 9 0 08/02/1970 Southern California

Biekert, Greg LB 16 14 03/14/1969 Colorado

Brabham, Cary DB 7 0 08/11/1970 Southern Methodist

Brown, Tim WR 16 16 07/22/1966 Notre Dame

Bruce, Aundray DE 16 0 04/30/1966 Auburn

Bunch, Jarrod RB 3 0 08/09/1968 Michigan

Davis, Scott DE 14 1 08/07/1965 Illinois


Duff, John DE 4 0 07/31/1967 New Mexico

Evans, Vince QB 9 0 06/14/1955 Southern California

Folston, James LB 7 0 08/14/1971 Northeast Louisiana

Frank, Donald DB 16 0 10/24/1965 Winston-Salem State

Fredrickson, Rob LB 16 12 05/13/1971 Michigan State

Glover, Andrew TE 16 16 08/12/1967 Grambling


Gogan, Kevin OG 16 16 11/02/1964 Washington

Gossett, Jeff P 16 0 01/25/1957 Eastern Illinois

Harrison, Nolan DE 16 16 01/25/1969 Indiana

Hobbs, Daryl WR 10 0 05/23/1968 Pacific

Holmberg, Rob LB 16 0 05/06/1971 Penn State

Hoskins, Derrick DB 15 9 11/14/1970 Southern Mississippi

Hostetler, Jeff QB 16 16 04/22/1961 West Virginia

Ismail, Raghib WR 16 0 11/18/1969 Notre Dame

Jaeger, Jeff K 16 0 11/26/1964 Washington

Jenkins, Robert OT 10 4 12/30/1963 UCLA

Jett, James WR 16 1 12/28/1970 West Virginia

Jones, Calvin RB 7 0 11/27/1970 Nebraska

Jones, Mike LB 16 1 04/15/1969 Missouri

Land, Dan DB 16 0 07/03/1965 Albany State

Lewis, Albert DB 14 9 10/06/1960 Grambling

McCallum, Napoleon RB 1 0 10/06/1963 Navy

McDaniel, Terry DB 16 16 02/08/1965 Tennessee

McGlockton, Chester DT 16 16 09/16/1969 Clemson

Montgomery, Tyrone RB 6 6 08/03/1970 Mississippi

Montoya, Max OG 13 0 05/12/1956 UCLA

Mosebar, Don C 16 16 09/11/1961 Southern California

Moss, Winston LB 16 15 12/24/1965 Miami

Perry, Gerald OT 12 12 11/12/1964 Southern

Rathman, Tom RB 16 16 10/07/1962 Nebraska

Robbins, Austin DT 2 0 03/01/1971 North Carolina

Skrepenak, Greg OG 12 10 01/31/1970 Michigan

Smith, Anthony DE 16 16 06/28/1967 Arizona

Smith, Kevin RB 3 0 07/25/1969 UCLA

Trapp, James DB 16 2 12/28/1969 Clemson

Turk, Dan C 16 0 06/25/1962 Wisconsin

Wallace, Aaron LB 16 5 04/17/1967 Texas A&M

Washington, Lionel DB 11 7 10/21/1960 Tulane

White, Alberto DE 8 0 04/08/1971 Texas Southern

Wilkerson, Bruce OT 11 6 07/28/1964 Tennessee

Williams, Harvey RB 16 10 04/22/1967 Louisiana State

Williams, Jamie TE 16 0 02/25/1960 Nebraska

Wisniewski, Steve OG 16 16 04/07/1967 Penn State

Wright, Alexander WR 16 15 07/19/1967 Auburn

[HolyToledo]

there's a "few" familiar names in there :P

[CrossBones]

We still had some horses on that 1990 team!

Tom Walsh, huh? I dunno.

[JC]

We still had some horses on that 1990 team!

Yeah, the most kickass team on Tecmo Bowl...let me tell you...my friends would get pissed at how bad you could dismantle them, Bo Jackson offtackle was brutal!

[XLRaider]

Ok, I can back Shell coming back after a long layoff, but pulling a guy out off his ranch to run the offense scares the hell out of me. I like the talk about hiring Jackie Slater to coach the O-line, but if Walsh is going to get the job done, we're going to need a couple of miracles to happen.

[CrossBones]

Ok, I can back Shell coming back after a long layoff, but pulling a guy out off his ranch to run the offense scares the hell out of me. I like the talk about hiring Jackie Slater to coach the O-line, but if Walsh is going to get the job done, we're going to need a couple of miracles to happen.This is really disappointing and sad after the euphoria of the Shell hiring.

I guess we have to keep an open mind about this Walsh guy but yeah seems like the organization is reaching WAY back to try and recreate the past. But hell, that's what the Raiders do.

Nevertheless, ``the greatness of the Raiders...." :confused:

[XLRaider]

This is really disappointing and sad after the euphoria of the Shell hiring.

I guess we have to keep an open mind about this Walsh guy but yeah seems like the organization is reaching WAY back to try and recreate the past. But hell, that's what the Raiders do.

Nevertheless, ``the greatness of the Raiders...." :confused:

Maybe they thought they were hiring BILL Walsh, Not TOM. :o

[Rupert]

Why are you guys looking for reasons to dislike Walsh?

My point about the RB situation was that Shell had one full year with Jackson (well essentially 2 since Jackson arrived when Shell took over in his first year). After that the Allen feud escalated and you had such luminaries as: Nick Bell, washed-up Craig and Dickerson, rookie Greg Robinson and WR/RB Ty Montgomery, Nap McCallum here and there, and finally Harvey Williams trying to carry the rock. And yet Shell still managed to pull something together.

If you look at the last season. Walsh took over a 1-3 offense and helped it to a 9-7 overall record (8-4 with him at the helm). This despite Mike White undermining Shell's authority and possibly Walsh's as well.

I'm not saying I'm excited about the Walsh hiring, but I'm not down on it either.

I compare it to how the press pooh-pooh'ed Shell and pumped up all the other candidates. Al made us accutely aware of how well the press's golden boys have done in the past. Now we're upset about a guy because the press doesn't have any info on him? They had all the info on their golden boys of the past and they still flopped. I guess their approval would make us more comfortable in knowing who Tom Walsh is, but it wouldn't make him any better or worse for the job.

[CrossBones]

The only thing I can say about it is that it bothers me that Tom Walsh hasn't been around football for 10+ years. He's no Joe gibbs.

As for Shell and his absence from coaching I'll say at least he never was away from football. Besides, Art Shell is a Hall of Fame player. Been there done that if you will.

Tom Walsh? No idea. That is why I say we have to keep an open mind. But that doesn't mean he was a great hire either.

It always come back to the same old thing --- people will tend to go in the direction they have been successful with. In this case it's Shell/Walsh. In Al's case it's Art Shell. Can't say as I blame them but you would have thought they would have explored al lthe possibilities before hiring Walsh. And maybe they did. We have no way of knowing that.

[JC]

Yeah, that's my concern...we have quite a few people that have been out of the game for quite some time. I do respect the fact that Art wants his guys, no problem with that, just hoping for some young minds that have been in the game.

[Angry Pope]

Here are the rankings in various categories for 1993 and 1994. It appears we had a problem running the ball. With the emphasis on fixing that this season, we may be alright...

1993-Passing Ranks

Completions-19
Attempts-19
Yards Passing-5
Yards Per Attempt-3
Touchdowns-17
Interceptions-9


1993-Rushing Ranks

Attempts-19
Yards Rushing-26
Yards Per Attempt-27
Touchdowns-15

Total Offense Rank-12




1994-Passing Ranks

Completions-19
Attempts-23
Yards Passing-14
Yards Per Attempt-3
Touchdowns-10
Interceptions-13


1994-Rushing Ranks

Attempts-18
Yards Rushing-21
Yards Per Attempt-20
Touchdowns-25

Total Offense Rank-17

[Rupert]

But guys, what has really changed in football?

Is the blocking all new? Nope.
Are the pass routes all new? Nope.
What can defenses do today that they couldn't in '94? Nothing. They can actually do less.

So what has really changed on offense that either Art or Tom need to know about? The WCO-style picks and rubs and motion to create mismatches? Bill Walsh was using them then. Friends, I know about them and have been out of football over 20 years, and I wasn't taught them back then either. Once football is in your mind, there is no getting it out. Once you're about strategy and finding ways to succeed on the field, it is an obsession.

Who really needs to know about the creative things that can be done on offense? The defensive coordinator. We kept the guy we had, who wasn't that bad.

I think, other than OL where we'll see what can be done, that this is probably the most talented offense Shell has had. I'll grant that Jordan is neither Allen nor Jackson, but Collins is better than Schroeder (career 56% v career 51%), and even though a young Tim Brown would be nice, I think we've got a seriously talented WR corps. If Art and Co. can get the OL humming (still don't think we're close to the talent we had back then) we could be off and winning in a hurry.

[JC]

I think we are running into a glad half full/half empty discussion...agree to disagree.

I think that bringing a guy that hasn't been in the game for a while that when was here ran mediocre offenses seems foolish, but the Raiders don't do things the conventional way. I realize football doesn't change much, but the stats don't lie. For example, no one questioned Joe Gibbs and his scheme because it was very successful, a top 5 offense. I really wish they would have taken a look at some new blood around here, seemed to work the last time with Gruden?? I obviously want everything to work out with the Raiders, moves like this just don't inspire confidence.

[Rupert]

But JC, look at the personnel. Do you really think Harvey Williams was that much to talk about? An over-the-hill Rathman blocking. Hostetler with a wounded shoulder and touch-and-go elbow because of the shoudler throwing wounded ducks around the field. Seriously, to get 9 wins out of that collection was quite impressive. Sure the offense was unispiring and lower third in production, but look at the pieces, they weren't top shelf either.

My point is that it has to be taken in context. I don't expect a gun-slinging offense from Art or Tom, but I expect this offense can produce better results than the last couple offenses they had.

[JC]

Well, let's hope we can get back to that 9+ win level, I think it'd be a miracle, but I'd be thrilled.

It's the easiest schedule we could have asked for, good luck to us!

[Rupert]

I definitely think we can get back to the 9 win level this season if we add: an OL to complete the picture, an OLB, and a SS.

Those three areas need immediate attention or we can forget it.

If we're going to outscore teams we'll need to get the run going, which will make play action credible. The only way to get the run going is to have a dominant OL. Shell thinks we have the horses, and we might for a more straightforward man (BOB) scheme, but we'll need depth and youth to secure the future and prepare for injuries.

On defense we'll need to be able to man up better against power running teams (new OLB), and we'll need a SS who can cover as well as tackle and support the run (why have we only gotten 2 out of 3 recently :mad: ).

We have better talent than we showed last season. We should have been 7-9 or 8-8 but the coaching decisions before the season blew that possibility out of the water. So getting to 9-7 this season wouldn't be too much of a stretch with the proper personnel upgrades and the right offensive scheme.

[JC]

I agree with you completely...think we can address those via free agency? Peterson and Tank Williams?

[gst8]

I agree with you completely...think we can address those via free agency? Peterson and Tank Williams?

I'd pass on Peterson. He hasn't been the same player the last couple of years. Still good, but definately not worth the money he's going to ask for. Think the LB version of C-Wood. Personally, I like the idea of Will Witherspoon. By all acounts he seems to be a very solid player who could be had for a reasonable price.

Our team would be better served by spending the FA dollars wisely than trying to make a big splash IMO. If we came out with Bentley and Witherspoon I would be overjoyed.

[Rupert]

Peterson and Williams would be very good additions. I'd like a guy like LeCharles Bentley for the OL, and then we can draft the way we always do by throwing caution to the wind and shooting for the moon. Grab Mario or Hawk, and a FB if Tui #2 ain't the answer (which he probably isn't).

[brick]

gst8 I agree, the Raiders would be better served bringing in some quality players rather that making the big splash. but thats not Al's way. Last year it was Moss and Jordan, the year before it was Sapp. It seems almost every year Al tries to put butts in the seats by signing the biggest name.

As for Walsh, I'll give him the benifit of the doubt for now. The tallent is there, except on the line. build up that line and let the dogs run.

[Rupert]

Well, Al didn't go for the splash when Gruden was here. It was quality additions with an emphasis on saving money. I could be mistaken, but I remember more often than not being underwhelmed by the acquisitions.

But we've definitely gone for the big hit these last seasons. The truth is you do that to take you over the top when you've got a solid foundation, not build your club.

[Angry Pope]

Jackie Slater has been hired by Art to be our offensive line coach...per NFL Network.

[JC]

I like a mixture of flash and substance...Moss was brilliant, just not adequately used.

I think we are all in agreement O-line and defense needed to be a addressed in a big big way.

[gst8]

Jackie Slater has been hired by Art to be our offensive line coach...per NFL Network.

I bet Gallery is going to just love having two of the greatest offensive tackles of all time watching his every step.

Time to put up or shut up buddy...

[CrossBones]

I bet Gallery is going to just love having two of the greatest offensive tackles of all time watching his every step.

Time to put up or shut up buddy...Yep, Art will take all the excuses away. Gallery will be moved to left tackle and have the best LT in history to tutor him. Now it'll be up to Gallery to produce. I love this part of the story.

Last year most of us thought our offensive line would be the strength of our team. Didn't work out that way. Sure the players didn't perform but hell there was so much confusion as to what was happening I kind of wonder about it.

I'm looking forward to seeing this bunch step up.

[gst8]

Yep, Art will take all the excuses away. Gallery will be moved to left tackle and have the best LT in history to tutor him. Now it'll be up to Gallery to produce. I love this part of the story.

Last year most of us thought our offensive line would be the strength of our team. Didn't work out that way. Sure the players didn't perform but hell there was so much confusion as to what was happening I kind of wonder about it.

I'm looking forward to seeing this bunch step up.

It will certainly make or break him. Hopefully he has the mental toughness to be under the microscope like that. We can't afford for him to play like he has so far.

[Rupert]

Well, Gallery will have two of the best in the business to put him straight. The real question is how much slack his 1st round #2 overall status will buy him. How long have we kept Gibson around? He wasn't drafted nearly that high, and I couldn't say he's performed as well either. Also, how long has Sims been out there sitting right on the border of below par? When the options are few you've got to take what's there. How soon we grab a new LT will tell the tale.

[JC]

Is it just me, or does Gallery's footwork always look terrible, possibly from being on the wrong side of the line?? I dunno, let's hope this fixes him.