2007 Draft Day Thread... Day 1

[CrossBones]

Guess it's appropriate to put this thread in the Raiders War Room...

I know there will be three other threads started but I thought I give it a shot anyway. :p

I don't know what else there is to be said at this point...about 15 hours until show time.

[R4Life]

I know you old people eat dinner at 2:00 pm and go to bed after the 5 o'clock news, but this is still a bit early...

[gst8]

Just one question...

Should I order my Russell jersey in home or away?

[Deadbolt]

You could sticky it, Bonesy, that may prevent more threads from being made.

[Knight]

I'm so anxious right now.... I have this tension I can literally feel, inside my bones. Its a painful tension. I thought I would have a relaxing right before the draft, took a couple Lortab and watching the Warriors game.... but I can't get this anxiety out.

[Turo]

Christmas Eve! Can't sleep!

[BigTron]

I have a busy day tommorrow ill try and get on here when i get some free time. Go Raiders the future is now!

[RaiderIVlife]

Christmas Eve! Can't sleep!

Ditto my brother.

[hawaiianboy]

I'm so anxious right now.... I have this tension I can literally feel, inside my bones. Its a painful tension. I thought I would have a relaxing right before the draft, took a couple Lortab and watching the Warriors game.... but I can't get this anxiety out.


Man this sooo reminds me of the Entourage episode where Drama finally gives in and takes Turtle's anti-anxiety suggestion...

Warning: salty language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTwWj6_Hij4&NR=1

[Limee]

ESPN claim it is Russell. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2852155)

[Freakshow]

ESPN claim it is Russell. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2852155)

So do I.

Well boys (and TommyGirl) it's almost time to unwrap our presents. I hope I get a new iPod...

[R4Life]

I'm all atwitter

[CrossBones]

ESPN is showing the draft starts at 9 AM PDT. WTF? Is 8 AM just an hour of more hype?

Natty says the Lil Al thread gets locked down at 8 AM PDT so...

[CrossBones]

Fuck...NFL.com says it starts at Noon EDT.

Shit, another hour it looks like.

[R4Life]

Lock down L'il Al b4 everyone uses Vick's "rape stand" on my picks!

[R4Life]

Thanks! Already done!

[Raiders_Rock]

here's the link to NFL Network if you want to watch it online

http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/events/live/nfldraft.rm&proto=rtsp&rpcontexturl=http://www.nfl.com/fieldpass/includes/promo&rpcontextwidth=417&rpcontextheight=250

[Raiders_Rock]

Adam Schefter reports that this will be the first 3 picks:

1. JaMarcus Russell
2. Calvin Johnson
3. Joe Thomas

[massraider]

here's the link to NFL Network if you want to watch it online

http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/events/live/nfldraft.rm&proto=rtsp&rpcontexturl=http://www.nfl.com/fieldpass/includes/promo&rpcontextwidth=417&rpcontextheight=250

What media player are you using? RealPlayer?

[Raiders_Rock]

What media player are you using? RealPlayer?

yes - I'm using Real. It took awhile for it to load for me.

[massraider]

Adam Schefter reports that this will be the first 3 picks:

1. JaMarcus Russell
2. Calvin Johnson
3. Joe Thomas

It's gonna be so great watching Brady Quinn sweat all the way till the 9th pick. Screw you, pretty boy!!

[R4Life]

Thanks for the live link!

[Limee]

here's the link to NFL Network if you want to watch it online

http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/events/live/nfldraft.rm&proto=rtsp&rpcontexturl=http://www.nfl.com/fieldpass/includes/promo&rpcontextwidth=417&rpcontextheight=250

Thanks for that, beats the ESPN link I had.

[007]

Wooo HOOoo!

T minus 60 minutes until we've got a new QB?

[massraider]

JaMarcus all in black. Cause he knows which way the wind blows, y'all........

[massraider]

Thanks for that, beats the ESPN link I had.

Was gonna send you a PM, if you hadn't posted this. Glad to see you are gonna be able to keep up.

[CrossBones]

JaMarcus all in black. Cause he knows which way the wind blows, y'all........Yo Mass...I came to my senses during the night. Finally a franchise QB in the house. :D

Just "Ja" Baby!

[massraider]

Yo Mass...I came to my senses during the night. Finally a franchise QB in the house. :D

Just "Ja" Baby!

ha ha ha. Nice. You're a rock, CB, a regular rock.

[Limee]

Was gonna send you a PM, if you hadn't posted this. Glad to see you are gonna be able to keep up.

Cheers mate, I can keep up with the Latvians now.

[Raiders_Rock]

I'm looking forward to who we select in the later rounds. Hopefully we can add some decent tight end and o-line prospects

[R4Life]

Cable flew out to talk with JR.

Browns want #1, but won't meet our price according to Schefter

[R4Life]

POSTED 11:15 a.m. EDT, April 28, 2007

KIFFIN DENIES RUSSELL REPORT

ESPN's Ed Werder reports that Raiders coach Lane Kiffin has denied a report from ESPN.com's Michael Smith that the Raiders have told quarterback JaMarcus Russell that he will be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.

Werder and Adam Schefter of NFL Network also report that the Raiders are talking to the Browns about a flip-flop of the No. 1 and No. 3 selections, which presumably would allow the Browns to get Russell.

Meanwhile, Schefter says that the Browns would otherwise take left tackle Joe Thomas at No. 3. But we're hearing talk that within the past couple of days owner Randy Lerner has told G.M. Phil Savage and coach Romeo Crennel that their options are Russell, Brady Quinn, and Calvin Johnson.

It was Schefter who initially reported several weeks ago that Lerner had given the directive to Savage and Crennel to take a quarterback.

[massraider]

Man, I want JaMarcus, but if we can get a 1,2,3 and something else, that'd be exciting.

[massraider]

Deion trying to raise the roof at a Star Trek convention. Good move, Deion!!

[R4Life]

Deion trying to raise the roof at a Star Trek convention. Good move, Deion!!

Deion makes me miss the sparkling personality of the Commissioner

[R4Life]

He's reading the information
He must think he's on radio

[hawaiianboy]

Merry Draft Day you nappy headed ho's...



Glad to see you are gonna be able to keep up.

Well, with the draft, at least...

[massraider]

Booing Brady!

Guess it wasn't just me. Everyone knows he's a dick.

[Raiders_Rock]

man the draft crowd sure is unkind

[Raiders_Rock]

POSTED 11:15 a.m. EDT, April 28, 2007

KIFFIN DENIES RUSSELL REPORT

ESPN's Ed Werder reports that Raiders coach Lane Kiffin has denied a report from ESPN.com's Michael Smith that the Raiders have told quarterback JaMarcus Russell that he will be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.

Werder and Adam Schefter of NFL Network also report that the Raiders are talking to the Browns about a flip-flop of the No. 1 and No. 3 selections, which presumably would allow the Browns to get Russell.

Meanwhile, Schefter says that the Browns would otherwise take left tackle Joe Thomas at No. 3. But we're hearing talk that within the past couple of days owner Randy Lerner has told G.M. Phil Savage and coach Romeo Crennel that their options are Russell, Brady Quinn, and Calvin Johnson.

It was Schefter who initially reported several weeks ago that Lerner had given the directive to Savage and Crennel to take a quarterback.

interesting...

[CrossBones]

They're gonna dance until the last possible minute...

[Limee]

Well, with the draft, at least...

So you watching NFL Network or ESPN?

[massraider]

man the draft crowd sure is unkind

You have no idea. I have been to two drafts:

1. Mel Kiper/Bill Tobin. The draft dweebs absolutely roared during that whole exchange. It was funny. BTW, Raiders took Rob Fredrickson (I wanted Mario Bates:o )

2. The Eli Manning draft. He was treated awful by the crowd, just assaulted. And he was coming to New York.

I would never go again. It's not healthy to be around that many 40 year-olds that live with their parents.

[hawaiianboy]

So you watching NFL Network or ESPN?


Got ESPN on the tube and NFLN on the comp, though the NFLN feed is a few seconds behind...

[007]

NFLN through and through.

Aint no Berman jackass gonna tell me the pick before it happens...

[hawaiianboy]

Still actively negotiating with two teams? Cleveland and ??

[massraider]

I'm not even watching on TV. Just the NFLN fee on the puter.

I have decided I will not hear Chris Berman's voice all day.

Frankly, people, the real intrigue is now with:

2.1

and

Moss.


Rich Gosselin, in his latest mock, had Alan Branch and Anthony Spencer falling out of the 1st round. It'll take a special curveball at 2.1 for me to be happy with passing on both of those guys at 2.1. I actually put Branch in my Little Al, based just Goose's mock.

Moss? We get a 3rd, that'd be sweet. I don't want him in New England.

[CrossBones]

Maybe KK really wants Quinn. :confused:

[Raiders_Rock]

If we don't draft Russell I really really hope we draft Calvin Johnson

[hawaiianboy]

That was a dope ESPN draft commercial....

[Raiders_Rock]

here we go...i'm nervous

[massraider]

MIke Mayock:

He's got the best physical skill set, of any QB I've ever seen.


Jesus H. Christ

[CrossBones]

They're gonna starft the 15 min clock once the commish takes the podium. :o

Jesus this is verve racking.

[R4Life]

Crap - the damn media player quit!

[hawaiianboy]

Is it my connection or does Mayock have a serious lisp?...

[R4Life]

Whew - Back up.

[massraider]

Is it my connection or does Mayock have a serious lisp?...

I dunno, but I'm looking forward to him discussing the Samson Satele pick.

[S and B Executioner]

Please God, let us trade to #3 or draft calvin Johnson or both!

[R4Life]

Got a big bowl and a nice scotch, ready to salute the newest Raider

[R4Life]

Halfway through...

[hawaiianboy]

Please God, let us trade to #3 or draft calvin Johnson or both!



Look at the bright side, if we take someone you don't want, you could set a new SBEX record for declaring the season over... :p

[Raiders_Rock]

JaMarcus it is!

[TommyGirl]

Well, I can live with this. Let's put the guy on a diet and get him in articulation lessons and I'll be more happy.

[R4Life]

JR is S&B Baby

[massraider]

Aww Yeah........................................:D :D

[007]

Right on.

Im a happy camper.

[S and B Executioner]

Okay, so now we have the QB of the future, face of the franchise and half the feild is eliminated from LIL AL.

NOW TRADE MOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Natty, can where is the Lil Al Scoring??

[hawaiianboy]

Sorry CJ fans:

[Rolling Stones]You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You just might find
You get what you neeeeeeeeed, ah yes...[/rolling stones]

[CrossBones]

Finally the Dark Lord pulled the trigger. He must be convinced.

I'm in. Totally.

[Raidermania12]

i hope we keep moss to work with russell. can't be mad about having russell. i'm more interested in the rest of the picks though.

[TommyGirl]

Damn, Mayock loves him even more than I thought.

[RFID]

Despite the several month wait, there was very little suspense behind this pick. Bravo, Al.

It would have been nice if we could have made that alleged deal with Cleveland. That would have been a reaming.

[massraider]

Okay, so now we have the QB of the future, face of the franchise and half the feild is eliminated from LIL AL.

NOW TRADE MOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Natty, can where is the Lil Al Scoring??

In the Little Al thread, about 9 posts before the winning entry.

[CrossBones]

Hopefully this is a great day for the Raiders.

Andrew Walter just threw the remote through the TV.

[Knight]

Great....

Sit him a full year. I hope you guys are right, and I'm wrong on this one.

We didn't sign him, and we are letting the value of our pick be traded out from under us? Terrible.

[BigTron]

Yeah it does feel good to finally have the QB position locked down. JR and AW will be a great pair of QB's to lead us ti the next superbowl win. Now its time to get him a playmaker at #33!

[007]

QBOTF.

Great day for us, boys. A great day.

[massraider]

Hopefully this is a great day for the Raiders.

Andrew Walter just threw the remote through the TV.

He must have a big TV to have hit it on the first try.

[S and B Executioner]

Welcome to the Nation J Russ. I just hope we can build an O-line for you!

[Limee]

JR in silver and black. He now needs to knuckle down and work hard and we need to be patient.

[massraider]

Great....

Sit him a full year.

Kinda what I'm hoping. Or at least 8 or 10 games.

[R4Life]

Walter should do well, allow JR to sit and then we Trade Walter when JR is ready to start.

[hawaiianboy]

Calvin Johnson to the Lions...

Raiders trade Moss...

Lions trade Mike Williams to the Raiders...


Book it...

[massraider]

Good move by Detriot. Even if they don't trade him. I think the chacnes are probably 50/50 he is somewhere else in a couple hours.

[Knight]

QBOTF.

Great day for us, boys. A great day.

At what cost to you? What have you lost in this process? :mad:

[massraider]

Oh, you hear that? God is on JaMarcus' side. We can't lose!

[CrossBones]

Well we really have a shot now to have a dominating quarterback. No more rejects. This guy works out and the Raiders will be at the top of the mountain very soon. I'm pretty happy about this. Al didn't fuck me for once although his history almost (almost) had me convinced he'd take Johnson.

[Raidermania12]

Oh, you hear that? God is on JaMarcus' side. We can't lose!

dont jinx us with humoring on God. I need no shattered knees on this pick because you made a funny.:cool:

[R4Life]

Week 1 match up

JaRuss and CJ?

[R4Life]

who's got the JR in Silver and Black picture?

[Raiders_Rock]

Jamarcus was the one QB in the draft that has the potential to lead a franchise. Let's hope he blossoms into his full potential and doesn't bust a la Rick Mirer or Akili Smith.

[massraider]

dont jinx us with humoring on God. I need no shattered knees on this pick because you made a funny.:cool:

Are you there, God? It's me, massraider. I was just kiddin'.....:o

[hawaiianboy]

Freakin Joe Thomas is looking like he's freezing his balls off on that boat...

[Raiders_Rock]

Calvin Johnson to the Lions...

Raiders trade Moss...

Lions trade Mike Williams to the Raiders...


Book it...

Schefter just reported that Williams might be going to the Titans

[R4Life]

Here comes BQ to the Browns

[Knight]

Listen to Calvin Johnson. All right right things.... "hard work" "first one on the field, last one off." And he's sincere.....

[massraider]

Man, where does Quinn fall to? Miami?

[Knight]

Man, where does Quinn fall to? Miami?

We must be getting some kind of delay. We just saw the pick announced.

[CrossBones]

Freakin Joe Thomas is looking like he's freezing his balls off on that boat...He just became a rich fisherman!

[R4Life]

Joe Thomas?

His arms are one quarter inch longer than T-rex's.

[S and B Executioner]

Quinn and A Pete now begin to fall. Good pick by Cleveland

[CrossBones]

Quinn is in free fall now.

[massraider]

Good for the Browns. Word was that the owner demanded a QB or CJ. Ncie to see he's letting them build for the future. Steinbach and Thomas is a good start to improving that line.

[Raiders_Rock]

Thomas and Steinbach should be a great left side for the Browns' line - could be akin to Jones-Hutchinson

[hawaiianboy]

Man, where does Quinn fall to? Miami?

Quinn is going to get all kinds of ass in South Beach... He's much better off falling there under Cameron than playing in Cleveland IMO...

[Raiders_Rock]

I'm thinking Brady Quinn will go next

[007]

It'll be interesting to see if a mid round team moves up for him...

*Jax maybe*

[massraider]

Quinn is going to get all kinds of ass in South Beach... He's much better off falling there under Cameron than playing in Cleveland IMO...

Well, he avoids a staph infection for sure.

[007]

Have we moved Moss yet?

[hawaiianboy]

We must be getting some kind of delay. We just saw the pick announced.


The NFLN feed is 30-40 seconds behind the ESPN one... The NFLN broadcast is much better (thank you Raiders Rock)... What kind of sadist decides to add Keyshawn and Steve freakin Young to Berman. Kiper etc?...

[massraider]

Have we moved Moss yet?

Check back in around 5:00. I think, if it happens, it'll be when GB, NE, or whoever is on the clock.

[massraider]

Yeah, isn't Gaines Adams kind of a no-brainer here? Okoye fits the defense, but geez, Adams is the replacement for Rice.

[Limee]

Adams has really quick feet.

[hawaiianboy]

Must have killed Gru to go D...

[massraider]

Now, some intrigue.

If I am Arizona, I take Peterson, and don't look back.

[Raiders_Rock]

Cards up now - I think they gotta pick AP here. James is on the decline and they could use a halfback to open up things for Leinart.

[CrossBones]

As usual all the trade rumors were just that. Teams moving up won't give enough and teams moving down want too much.

Heh.

[S and B Executioner]

Now, some intrigue.

If I am Arizona, I take Peterson, and don't look back.

If I am Arizona, I find someone to trade down with and to get Levi Brown or just plain reach for him here. They need o-line as bad as we do.

[Limee]

I agree, Peterson, Leinart, Fitz, Boldin and then sort out the Oline.

[Knight]

Now, some intrigue.

If I am Arizona, I take Peterson, and don't look back.

They've stifled two backs with that O-line..... third time's the charm?

[Jack's sore libido]

Let's see how accurate those quotes from Whisenhunt a few weeks ago were. He said they'd take Peterson if he was there.

I wonder if anyone wants to trade up for Brady Quinn.

[007]

Arizona should take Quinn and run a double QB formation.

[massraider]

As usual all the trade rumors were just that. Teams moving up won't give enough and teams moving down want too much.

Heh.

Exactly. New rule: Next time someone says, "Why don't they just trade down?", they get kicked in the jimmy.

[R4Life]

Let's see how accurate those quotes from Whisenhunt a few weeks ago were. He said they'd take Peterson if he was there.

I wonder if anyone wants to trade up for Brady Quinn.

Washington (6) is the spot to trade for Quinn if you want him

[Knight]

Arizona should take Quinn and run a double QB formation.

If it was anyone but you I would think you were joking.

[R4Life]

Levi Brown? at 5?

[massraider]

Washington (6) is the spot to trade for Quinn if you want him

At this point, I think that is the spot that teams are looking at to pick up Laron Landry. Just a guess, but I think MIN and ATL wants him.

God, can you imagine if Quinn gets passed by MIA?

[S and B Executioner]

Looks like they finally have a brain down in the Arizona. Good pick, even if it is a slight reach

[Knight]

Wow..... can Washington cash in? Peterson and Quinn both available.

[hawaiianboy]

Okay, I'm starting to get quesy about Adraian Peterson falling enough that Denver can trade up and get him... :(

[Banter]

God, can you imagine if Quinn gets passed by MIA?

I'll be LMAO if he winds up in Carolina while thinking of David Carr.

[R4Life]

Okay, I'm starting to get quesy about Adraian Peterson falling enough that Denver can trade up and get him... :(

Watch out if he gets to Tex.

[S and B Executioner]

The Skins are a huge question mark here and the first team likely to make a move down. But I'd guess value with Quinn or Pete and Landry as a 3rd resort. It is getting dicey here boys

[Raiders_Rock]

Imagine a safety pairing of Leon Landry and Sean Taylor. That'd be sick.

[Limee]

2 tackles already, doesn't look like Staley will last till the second.

[Raidermania12]

Calvin Johnson to the Lions...

Raiders trade Moss...

Lions trade Mike Williams to the Raiders...


Book it...

Mikey's headed to norm chow in titan world they say.

[CrossBones]

Exactly. New rule: Next time someone says, "Why don't they just trade down?", they get kicked in the jimmy.I'm with 'ya bro.

[Knight]

The Texans couldn't pass on Peterson if he fell to them, no matter what the Broncos offered.

[S and B Executioner]

The Pick is Landry

[S and B Executioner]

I agree, if I'm the texans, after screwing the proverbial pooch last year, I draft A Pete NOW!!

[R4Life]

Anybody else cry BS with the way that Schefter is acting like he's breaking news from "contacts"? He's employed by the league. The teams probably have to call him.

[massraider]

This is evidence that no one wants to trade up.

[Raiders_Rock]

Laron Landry and Sean Taylor in the same secondary is gonna be fucking sick.

[hawaiianboy]

Wow Landry paired with Sean taylor!!!

[hawaiianboy]

Jinx!.......

[BigTron]

No doubt. That is a HARD hitting tandum.

[Knight]

I hope Atlanta gets screwed to teach them a lesson about not trading up. I hope whoever they get busts like a popped balloon.

[hawaiianboy]

PFT: Moss trade with Patsies is supposedly deader than Bones' long term memory...

[massraider]

God, if Minny take a CB over Peterson...........

[Knight]

PFT: Moss trade with Patsies is supposedly deader than Bones' long term memory...

or BPP's short term memory....

[Raiders_Rock]

The Vikes could use Quinn or Peterson. Either would fill a hole.

[CrossBones]

There has to be major concern about Peterson's shoulder and his injury history. It's really the only explanation. Although everybody denies it seems to be the case.

[Banter]

So if Quinn goes to Miami does the kill the Trent Green trade? I hope so.

[massraider]

Where the heck has Poppa been, by the way?

[Knight]

I saw a single tear run down Steve Young's cheek when Boomer used profanity....

[S and B Executioner]

Moss to GB..mark it!!

[hawaiianboy]

Kiffin: It was Russell all along (http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2007/04/28/kiffin-it-was-russell-all-along/)

Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Saturday at 10:09 am

So if the Raiders were so intent on taking JaMarcus Russell, why all the drama?
"We were just making you guys wait," Raiders coach Lane Kiffin said Saturday morning at his first press briefing about a half-hour after his club selected the LSU quarterback with the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft. "It would have been too easy to pick right away. We've got to keep the spotlight for a few minutes."

To hear Kiffin tell it, Russell was going to be a Raider long ago. Which is what he is supposed to say, of course. Draft days are all about a unified front.

As much as anything Russell said to the Raiders during their meetings, it was how those around him responded to the quarterback that helped make the difference.
Kiffin said there was no timetable as to when Russell would play.

"It might be from Day 1, it might be in Year 2," Kiffin said. "Matt Leinart had never thrown a pass in college and won a national championship in his first year. There are all kinds of different scenarios."

As for Randy Moss, Kiffin confirmed the Raiders are listening to trade offers, suggested the receiver could still be on the team at the end of the day, then turned the talk back to Russell.

[Raiders_Rock]

Looks like the Vikes will pick AP

[massraider]

Arizona's mistake is Minnesota's gain.

Peterson and CJ, both in the NFC. Good news for us, kids.

[Raiders_Rock]

Miami has Quinn fall right into their hands

[Knight]

Arizona's mistake is Minnesota's gain.

Peterson and CJ, both in the NFC. Good news for us, kids.

That is silly, I'm sorry. Arrington couldn't run there, Edge couldn't run there.... but its the backs?

[Raiders_Rock]

Arizona's mistake is Minnesota's gain.

Peterson and CJ, both in the NFC. Good news for us, kids.

I don't think picking Levi Brown was a mistake. The Cards' line is a fucking mess. I think it was a very smart pick by them.

[massraider]

Kiffin: It was Russell all along (http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2007/04/28/kiffin-it-was-russell-all-along/)

Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Saturday at 10:09 am

So if the Raiders were so intent on taking JaMarcus Russell, why all the drama?
"Hey, we had a bar manager in Boston telling you all, not sure why you didn't believe him," Raiders coach Lane Kiffin said Saturday morning at his first press briefing about a half-hour after his club selected the LSU quarterback with the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft. "It would have been too easy to pick right away. We've got to keep the spotlight for a few minutes."

To hear Kiffin tell it, Russell was going to be a Raider long ago. Which is what he is supposed to say, of course. Draft days are all about a unified front.

As much as anything Russell said to the Raiders during their meetings, it was how those around him responded to the quarterback that helped make the difference.
Kiffin said there was no timetable as to when Russell would play.

"It might be from Day 1, it might be in Year 2," Kiffin said. "Matt Leinart had never thrown a pass in college and won a national championship in his first year. There are all kinds of different scenarios."

As for Randy Moss, Kiffin confirmed the Raiders are listening to trade offers, suggested the receiver could still be on the team at the end of the day, then turned the talk back to Russell.


True dat......

[CrossBones]

Glad Denver can't pull off anything to get AP. That would have seriously f/cked up this day.

[massraider]

That is silly, I'm sorry. Arrington couldn't run there, Edge couldn't run there.... but its the backs?

Reaching for a tackle, with an aging Edge is not a solution, in my mind. Yeah, OL help is nice, but it has to be the right OL help. We need OL help, but if we had signed Leonard Davis??

Not the right help.

And Edge in his current state, and Arrington, are different animals than Peterson.

Arrington? You didn't just say that, did you?

[R4Life]

ATL picks Quinn and Cuts Vick live on TV.

[Knight]

Reaching for a tackle, with an aging Edge is not a solution, in my mind. Yeah, OL help is nice, but it has to be the right OL help. We need OL help, but if we had signed Leonard Davis??

Not the right help.

And Edge in his current state, and Arrington, are different animals than Peterson.

Arrington? You didn't just say that, did you?

Yeah I did just say that, having had the pleasure of watching him in college. For those that didn't, I can simply point to the amazing decline of Edge.

[Knight]

ATL picks Quinn and Cuts Vick live on TV.

Vick has been smart, and has already set himself up for a career after football....

[Jack's sore libido]

The name Levi must be jinxed.

Everyone busted on the Bengals for taking Levi Jones instead of Phillip Buchanon, but Jones has been very solid.

[massraider]

Yeah I did just say that, having had the pleasure of watching him in college. For those that didn't, I can simply point to the amazing decline of Edge.

Fair enough. If Brown becomes a stud, it's a good move, I suppose. Always a good move to protect Leinart.

But I thought Edge was already a lesser player in Indy.

I really think Peterson is gonna impact the Vikes. I was against us taking him, but I think he'll have a huge impact in Minny.

[massraider]

I am ashamed how much I am rooting for Miami to take anyone other than Quinn. This kid really doesn't deserve this hate from me.

[Raiders_Rock]

Quinn should go next

[hawaiianboy]

I think the Cards will look RB at some point today... I agree that Edge did look pretty average for a couple of years before signing with the Cards... Mike Bush seems like a good fit for the between the tackle Steeler type Whisenhunt is used to...


No DT's off the board yet...

[Knight]

Fair enough. If Brown becomes a stud, it's a good move, I suppose. Always a good move to protect Leinart.

But I thought Edge was already a lesser player in Indy.

I really think Peterson is gonna impact the Vikes. I was against us taking him, but I think he'll have a huge impact in Minny.

Brown is a reach at that point, I totally agree. But paying a RB with injury concerns at 5 with the money Edge is already making.... behind that line? It has disaster written all over it. And its not like Arizona has some untested potential on the line, either, that could work out in a new system. They need a total revamp.

[Banter]

Levi to Zona makes sense to me cause I've always thought he be much better RT then LT. So with a lefty QB its perfect.

[massraider]

Brown is a reach at that point, I totally agree. But paying a RB with injury concerns at 5 with the money Edge is already making.... behind that line? It has disaster written all over it. And its not like Arizona has some untested potential on the line, either, that could work out in a new system. They need a total revamp.

A very good point. With a shoulder dislocation, and two collarbone boo-boos, it's definitely a reason to pass on him.

OK, I've changed my mind. :cool:

[BigTron]

Who is going to be the first WR taken? Ginn?

[R4Life]

Who is going to be the first WR taken? Ginn?

Um,
Calvin Johnson.

[Knight]

A very good point. With a shoulder dislocation, and two collarbone boo-boos, it's definitely a reason to pass on him.

OK, I've changed my mind. :cool:

Well since he would have been hammered to mush behind that line....

[massraider]

Who is going to be the 2nd WR taken? Ginn?

I think Meacham.

[Knight]

What the hell just happened??????

[CrossBones]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!

[massraider]

Miami has Quinn fall right into their hands

And doesn't want him

Ginn? Wow. Wow.

Wow.


Screw you golden boy.

[BigTron]

guess that answers that question. Poor Brady Quinn. ahah

[Raiders_Rock]

whoa what the fuck...Ted Ginn over Quinn?

[CrossBones]

Quinn could drop into the 20's

[BigTron]

Um,
Calvin Johnson.

Haha i meant after the mighty Calvin Johnson. Its like he isnt even a WR he is a profit! :D I used to not even ranking him with the opther WR's haha. Well that was insane. Where is Quinn going?

[hawaiianboy]

Quinn to Carolina now??? mass jinxed the poor guy...

[Raiders_Rock]

first real surprise pick in this draft

[Limee]

Trade up into the late first to pick Quinn, we need another QB right? :D

[S and B Executioner]

Unfreakin beleivable that Ginn goes to Miami and now Quinn gets to fall to the LATE 1st round. Unless we trade Moss to GB for Rodgers (NOT LIKELY) and GB picks him. Boy, it sucks to be Quinn now, huh??

[Knight]

What is Miami thinking? I mean, I was as low as anyone on Quinn..... literally anyone. Ted Ginn?

[007]

Ginn in the top ten?

Woah.

[Banter]

Quinn to Carolina now??? mass jinxed the poor guy...

I hope David Carr is watching the draft...

[007]

Meachem or Bowe are gonna slide right into KC....And I'll be pissed.

[hawaiianboy]

Anybody thinking the Texans are now kinda regretting giving up so much for Schaub with Quinn dropping?

[Byron2112]

Wow, how bad has Cameron been jonesing for a playmaker at WR during his sandy eggo days?

[massraider]

Silver lining:

There will be no mega trade up for Ginn by Al Davis.

[S and B Executioner]

So, I know it is early, but does Ben Grubbs or Joe Staley fall to us?

[massraider]

FWIW:

Goesselin nailed the first 4 picks, had ARI taking Peterson, MIA going Quinn, and has Revis here for Houston.

[Banter]

Detroit almost has the ammo right now to package 4 or 5 picks to move up and get Quinn. He just needs to keep falling a bit.

[hawaiianboy]

Aaron Rogers...
Matt Leinert...
Brady Quinn...


In the future, if I'm a white QB, I'm thinking maybe I deny that invitation to NY for the draft...

[Jack's sore libido]

Guess Miami isn't really looking to dump Culpepper after all.

Maybe Trent Green is a one-year solution to let Culpepper heal up, then bombs away to Ginn and Chambers.

[massraider]

JaMarcus to Quinn's girlfriend:

Baby, what you doing later? Why don't you come with me? You want to leave here in a limo, or a cab?

[Knight]

God I would love to be holding Calvin Johnson right now waiting to see which QB we would take later in the draft.

[hawaiianboy]

There's teh first DT off the board...

[Byron2112]

Good pick for the Texans

[massraider]

Dang, I am slow on the simulcast. I just heard the pick.

[Byron2112]

Hey Mass, didn't Gosslin rate Alan Branch around the top of the second round?

I wonder if he'll actually fall there...

[Jack's sore libido]

God I would love to be holding Calvin Johnson right now waiting to see which QB we would take later in the draft.

I know how you feel.

If Kiffin was really that sold on Quinn, the Raiders could trade up from the second to take Quinn in the 20s ... already with CJ.

But such is life. There was no guarantee Quinn would drop past 3.

[Raiders_Rock]

Quinn will slip to the Panthers

[CrossBones]

Maybe Branch could fall to us at 33. Nah...just a thought. I think Branch's Senior year production (25 tackles) has really hurt him.

[007]

Good foundation in Houston.

Mario and Amobi?

Thats like Sapp and Simeon from the late nineties...

[Jack's sore libido]

Good foundation in Houston.

Mario and Amobi?

Thats like Sapp and Simeon from the late nineties...

They also drafted Travis Johnson in the first round two years ago.

[007]

I know how you feel.

If Kiffin was really that sold on Quinn, the Raiders could trade up from the second to take Quinn in the 20s ... already with CJ.

But such is life. There was no guarantee Quinn would drop past 3.

I know its all posturing Jack, but Lane just said in his interview on NFLN that it was JR all along, but out of respect to the Raiders and the other teams, they did their due dilligence with the first pick.

I tend to believe that call.

[massraider]

Hey Mass, didn't Gosslin rate Alan Branch around the top of the second round?

I wonder if he'll actually fall there...

Goss has him rated, interestingly enough, at 33.

Branch was not in his final 1st round mock.

[007]

They also drafted Travis Johnson in the first round two years ago.

I forgot him.

[CrossBones]

What's Kiffin gonna say though...``damn I really wanted Brady but the Dark Lord cockblocked me"...? hehehe. The Draft, gotta love it.

[Jack's sore libido]

I know its all posturing Jack, but Lane just said in his interview on NFLN that it was JR all along, but out of respect to the Raiders and the other teams, they did their due dilligence with the first pick.

I tend to believe that call.

I guess we'll never really know.

[Byron2112]

Goss has him rated, interestingly enough, at 33.

Branch was not in his final 1st round mock.

What do ya guys say...

Anyone up for another all-world defensive tackle who plays when he feels like it?

I dunno if I can stand that shit again... even if he's just the kinda beef we need...

[007]

Branch at 33 would be AMAZING.

[Byron2112]

Was that Nips at the draft? :D

[Banter]

Those rumors that some teams actually had a 2nd round grade on Quinn seems more realistic by the minute.

[Jack's sore libido]

What do ya guys say...

Anyone up for another all-world defensive tackle who plays when he feels like it?

I dunno if I can stand that shit again... even if he's just the kinda beef we need...

Man, it'd be hard to pass on Alan Branch at 2.1. But I am so sick of that label. Big Chet and D-Russ sapped me.

[massraider]

What's Kiffin gonna say though...``damn I really wanted Brady but the Dark Lord cockblocked me"...? hehehe. The Draft, gotta love it.

Well, now I'm ready to believe him, as it seems not too many other folks were jazzed up about Quinn either. This is unreal.

Man, I think St. Louis has to at least think about him.

What about Green Bay?

Not really too many teams that make a ton of sense for this kid.

OK, now I feel a little bad for him.

[massraider]

What do ya guys say...

Anyone up for another all-world defensive tackle who plays when he feels like it?

I dunno if I can stand that shit again... even if he's just the kinda beef we need...

Check my Little Al entry. :cool:

[007]

A quick point:

Keyshawn has been very well spoken on the ESPN broadcast...Talking about getting Quinn as the BPA, him fading off in a year or two but helping him mature etc.

He seems different than he used to, but I dunno.

[massraider]

Man, it'd be hard to pass on Alan Branch at 2.1. But I am so sick of that label. Big Chet and D-Russ sapped me.

Dude, totally agree.

Anytime I think about us picking up a DT, all I want to see on his scouting report is "hard-working, never takes plays off".

I am also sick of the DT that can dunk a basketball, and do a triple half gainer, but would rather smoke cheeba and play XBox.

Give me two John Parella's over two Shaun Rogers any day.

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Man, but he sure would look good there at 2.1, wouldn't he? :o

[CrossBones]

He must have a big TV to have hit it on the first try.Actually I think the remote was intercepted by Andrew's dog. ;)

[Jack's sore libido]

Glad to see Denver was unable to move up for Patrick Willis.

[007]

Check my Little Al entry. :cool:

If we go Russell-Branch as a 1-2, could anyone really be too pissed?

I mean Branch was slotted in the 5-6 spot to Arizona until his Pro day...

[Knight]

Great pick for the 49ers.

[Jack's sore libido]

A quick point:

Keyshawn has been very well spoken on the ESPN broadcast...Talking about getting Quinn as the BPA, him fading off in a year or two but helping him mature etc.

He seems different than he used to, but I dunno.

Yeah, well, he also said with a straight face that money isn't as important as the team you go to.

Do as I say, not as I do?

[massraider]

Glad to see Denver was unable to move up for Patrick Willis.

More good news.

[007]

Yeah, well, he also said with a straight face that money isn't as important as the team you go to.

Do as I say, not as I do?

True.

He just seems different.

Cant explain, don't care to, but he said a lot of good things when I've watched ESPN during the breaks on NFLN.

[007]

Quinn to KC with a chip on his shoulder?

Fuck me.

[massraider]

If we go Russell-Branch as a 1-2, could anyone really be too pissed?

I mean Branch was slotted in the 5-6 spot to Arizona until his Pro day...


If we are staring at Branch and/or Anthony Spencer, I will really, really be unhappy if we go in any other direction.

[BigTron]

Lynch NOOOOOOOOO

[Knight]

Poor Marshawn, running behind that line.

Denver didn't get him, though : )

[007]

So much for Lynch slipping...

[massraider]

Woulda been nice, but hard to beleive he wasn't going in the 1st.

Time to look at next years backs for da Raiders.

[hawaiianboy]

Check my Little Al entry. :cool:


I almost did that... I originally planned on putting Zach Miller there, but about 8,000 people already had him on... Then I thought hard on Branch and teh Miami TE figuring Al will trade up per the norm... Eventually decided on Jarvis Moss... I figured he can take #98 and all those with Randy Moss #18 jerseys can turn the 1 into a 9 pretty easily...

[massraider]

I really, really don't like 007's idea of the Mighty Quinn to KC.

I prefer Croyle and Huard there. :D

[CrossBones]

I almost did that... Don't you say that every year?

I really, really don't like 007's idea of the Mighty Quinn to KC.
I don't want that to happen. Please I don't want that to happen. Although by then Quinn will be Ja's bitch.

[massraider]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PaZ-8svYalg

Bow-chicka-Bow-Bow

[007]

Worst thing possible is to have to face a jilted Brady Quinn twice a year for a decade or so, knowing we made the wrong pick.

Best case scenario is that JR will be the QB we keep hearing about, and the point is moot. :)

[massraider]

Carriker makes sens to St. Looey, no?

[TommyGirl]

WTH? What's the deal with these guys hating on women the last two days?

[hawaiianboy]

WTH? What's the deal with these guys hating on women the last two days?



I think Mayock's lisp is confusing me cause I'm lost now :confused:


The first trade of the day!

[massraider]

Wouldn't it be sweet if they took Olsen?

Fans would go nuts!