The Draft War Rooms are open for buisness (in friggin' November)

[CrossBones]

Nispy found us a kicker. Ito from Rutgers? Dude probably plays golf with O.J. Simpson in the off season down in Florida. Just sayin'.

[hawaiianboy]

With the second pick of the 2007 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select _______ _______.


A) All Day Peterson
B) Alan Branch
C) Marshawn Lynch
D) Calvin Johnson
E) Tedd Ginn Jr
F) None of the above

[CrossBones]

Peterson would be my guess even though I'd prefer Lynch!

[Limee]

"We didn't score enough". That was then and things are worse now. After watching Johnson being a non factor in the Georgia v Georgia Tech game I want the running back who you can feed the ball to 20-25 times a game.

Peterson would be my personal choice, but I would be happy with Lynch.

[jatfly]

With the second pick of the 2007 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select _______ _______.


A) All Day Peterson
B) Alan Branch
C) Marshawn Lynch
D) Calvin Johnson
E) Tedd Ginn Jr
F) None of the above

HB or someone else fill me in on these guys give me some stats and other info since I don't follow College players until draft time.

[Turo]

I would be happy with all of the above.. with the exception of Ginn at #2. That'd be a bit hard to choke down.

[gst8]

I won't give up my QB crusade until I see Brady Quinn hold up that Detroit jersey.

Common Al.

[Limee]

Some draft thoughts from the Arkansas v LSU game.

It is a shame we can't get the one man offense that is Darren McFadden.

JaMarcus Russell seems a lot like Daunte Culpepper to me even down to the fumbles.

Dwayne Bowe could be a decent WR to TE conversion project.

[RaiderIVlife]

Dude, did you really just throw at another WR-turned-TE project? No, no, no.

Just give me a guy that can block and catch the occasional squat between the hash marks. That's all.

Besides, I really like this John Madesn guy, could be a real find as a "big WR" IMO. Ronald Curry should be even better in 2007. Perhaps Porter finds his way back into good graces? Either way, this is my long way of saying draft....

Petersen or Lynch. I have no idea which one is better, just be sure that we the better one.

[Langlier]

Its Peterson for me till someone nabs him in front of us.

[Limee]

Dude, did you really just throw at another WR-turned-TE project? No, no, no.
I thought everyone would approve. I am not saying he should be the pick for us, I just think that looks a likely route for him.

[BigTron]

Calvin Johnson was a non-factor b/c his QB is garbage. He would rather run around then throw the ball. If you gave this guys a real qb it would be scary.

A.Peterson worries me alittle with his style of running. He kind of runs in the same mold as fargas. He is kinda tall while running and he also looks for contact. That might not fly as well in the NFL. He also isnt going to clock as fast as Lynch either, and you know how much Al likes his speed. Mcfadden is the real deal. I wish he were coming out this year. He looks like the next LT.

[CrossBones]

Calvin Johnson was a non-factor b/c his QB is garbage. He would rather run around then throw the ball. If you gave this guys a real qb it would be scary.

A.Peterson worries me alittle with his style of running. He kind of runs in the same mold as fargas. He is kinda tall while running and he also looks for contact. That might not fly as well in the NFL. He also isnt going to clock as fast as Lynch either, and you know how much Al likes his speed. Mcfadden is the real deal. I wish he were coming out this year. He looks like the next LT.As I watched Peterson I made the same comment that it looked like he ran a little too upright for me. Maybe it was his height. Dunno.

Anyway I like Lynch. He looks to be in the mold of a Tomilson type of runner maybe even a little more physical. Plus he grew up in the area and that might give him that little something special to be proud of wearing the once famed Silver & Black. :o

[RaiderIVlife]

Well, everything else being equal, I'd prefer Lynch for that reason alone. There is something to drafting players that are "true" Raider Fans. Kirk Morrison anyone?

Limee - Well, I was joking as much as anything else, but I've grown a little gun shy with the words "WR to TE conversion" and "Raiders" in the same line of thinking.

[BigTron]

I think we could consider trading down this year. We might move a few players and trade some picks. If we traded down and took Jarret or Ginn instead of CJ we could pick up and extra pick. Paul P from pennstate would round out our LB core for the next 8 years in the mid first. Landry the FS from LSU paired with Huff could possibly develop into the best tandom in the league. Gaines Adams or Branch would set up our D-Line also. Quinn or Brohm would assure there is a franchise QB on the roster. Hell even Troy Smith looks like the next Drew Brees. I think the best way to build and O-Line is through big bucks in F.A., we need a proven mauler at RT and Guard. Just some thoughts.
Since this season is so painful im looking forward to having high picks, alot of cap room and and a exciting young defense for years to come and its still November...

[Limee]

Calvin Johnson was a non-factor b/c his QB is garbage. He would rather run around then throw the ball. If you gave this guys a real qb it would be scary.
That was my worry. I think he is a super talent, but we have had some talent at WR and it hasn't got us anywhere.
Well, everything else being equal, I'd prefer Lynch for that reason alone. There is something to drafting players that are "true" Raider Fans. Kirk Morrison anyone?

Limee - Well, I was joking as much as anything else, but I've grown a little gun shy with the words "WR to TE conversion" and "Raiders" in the same line of thinking.
I think Lynch being a Raider fan is a factor, but if Peterson is rated much higher then I think you have to make him the pick. I added the Bowe TE comment as I could imagine the general reaction if we tried another conversion. :D

we traded down and took Jarret or Ginn instead of CJ we could pick up and extra pick.
I think Ginn is a super fast WR with inconsistent hands so I would rather pass. Jarrett looks like he could be the real deal, but I thought Mike Williams would be really good so who knows.

[hawaiianboy]

Calvin Johnson was a non-factor b/c his QB is garbage. He would rather run around then throw the ball. If you gave this guys a real qb it would be scary.


I agree... Put Jarret or Samardzija on that GT team in place of CJ and you'd see the same pedestrian numbers... You put CJ in SC in plce of Jarrett or in ND in place of Samardzija, and you'd see the kind of mind numbing numbers that correlate with the sick physical talent he has IMO...


I wouldn't sneeze at taking Lynch because he gives you a pass threat out of the back field as well as what he can do running the ball, but I'd take Peterson over him... Injuries over the past couple of years have dimmed AP's star quite a bit, but man after his freshman year, legitimate comparisions were being made with the collegiate versions of the Hershell's, Bo's and Dickersons...

[Crow]

Calvin "Larry Fitzgerald w/ Speed" Johnson this year, suck ass, then take McFadden next year. :D

Probably not, but it's a thought.

[hawaiianboy]

SAMSON SATELE
Offensive Guard / Center
Hawaii
6-3, 325
40 Time:


source: NFL Report.com
Hawaiian native with the talent and experience to play any positions along the O line. After redshirting in 2002, Satele stepped into a starting role as a redshirt Freshman in 2003. Four-year starter. Played OT and OG as a Freshman, earning Freshman All-American honors from numerous publications that season after recording a team-high 48 knockdown blocks. Started at both Guard and Center as a Sophomore in 2004, earning second-team All-WAC honors that season. Started every game at Guard as a Junior in 2005, when he earned first-team All-WAC honors after leading the team in pancake blocks (32) and surrendering only two sacks on the season. Satele is a powerful, authoritative lineman who punishes on his assignments. A mauler who knows how to finish and will take good angles to his targets. Locks on his target and finishes strong. Makes good use of his hands and keeps defenders off his body. Won't surrender much ground to bull-rushing DTs. Technically sound. A rock up front with very good instincts/awareness. Almost impossible to shed by opposing defenders because of his strength and determination.

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JUSTIN BLALOCK
Offensive Tackle
Texas
6-4, 313
40 Time:


source: NFL Draft Forecast
NFL Comparison: George Foster, Denver Broncos

Positives: Blalock is one of the nation's premier drive blockers in the running game. He has tremendous natural strength and uses his hands well, generating consistent leverage and wearing down his opponent. Any opponent going toe-to-toe with Blalock in the short area is at a disadvantage. Despite his mass, he seems to be at a comfortable playing weight and stays fresh late in games. While not exceptionally mobile, Blalock can get out in space on screen plays and hit a moving target downfield.

Negatives: Texas hasn't asked for much from Blalock as a pass blocker at right tackle. It was Jon Scott, not Blalock, who protected Vince Young's blindside at left tackle during the Longhorns' national title run. The Texas offense utilizes bootlegs, option plays, and three-step drops; not an intricate downfield attack that would require Blalock to sustain his block for an extended period of time. He remains somewhat unpolished in pass protection and vulnerable to speed rushers on the edge. It's unlikely that Blalock has nimble enough feet to make the switch to the left side and be an elite pass blocker in the NFL.

Overall: Blalock's stock might not rise as high as some elite left tackle prospects, but he has the size, athleticism, durability, and attitude that NFL scouts look for. He could move inside to guard where he would excel in the running game, but might have a productive career starting at right tackle as well. VISIT

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ZACH MILLER
Tight End
Arizona State
6-5, 260
40 Time:


These TEs continue to get bigger and bigger and much more talented, as is the case with Arizona States, Zach Miller, 6-5 and 265 lbs. One of the most dynamic players at his position. His nickname is "The Truth" because he has lived up to all the hype coming into ASU. He's not only a very good blocker and intelligent, but he is very physical and that's one of the best qualities about Miller. He is technically a Junior, however, he's one of the top 3 ranked TEs at his position, and it would be a good bet that he declares and enters the 2007 NFL Draft

[hawaiianboy]

Brady Quinn

School: Notre Dame
Year: Senior
Height: 6'4
Weight: 231
Forty: n/a

NFL COMPARISON
Carson Palmer, Bengals

SCOUTING REPORT

SYSTEM: Quinn is not a system guy, let's get that very clear. However, playing in a pro style offense directed by Charlie Weis is not a negative. Quinn understands the game, makes good reads and did a much better job in his junior year of going to the right place with the ball than he had earlier in his career.

MEASUREABLES: Brady has excellent size. He is a tall quarterback with a great build. He's not a blazer, but he shows good pocket presence and can get himself out of trouble. He does need to improve on his decision making when outside of the pocket, but he's athletic enough to make throws on the run.

ARM STRENGTH: Quinn can make all the throws. He has good zip on his deep outs and also on his intermediate passes. He also has shown that he can get the ball downfield, as he throws a very nice deep ball. Part of this too are his mechanics, which are good. He comes over the top and his setup allows for good velocity.

INTANGIBLES: Quinn has shown great ability in pressure situations. He led the Irish to several close victories and isn't easily rattled. His intelligence is key. He adapted quickly to Weis' offense and has been praised for his strong work ethic and leadership qualities.

ACCURACY/DECISION MAKING: He's improved by leaps and bounds. He has shown the ability to put touch on the ball and also rifle it into tight spots, but he can be inconsistent. He also needs to improve his decision making. He's a rifleman who will throw the ball all over the field, but does tend to force passes into coverage.

OVERALL PROJECTION
Quinn has all the tools to be a very good starting Quarterback at the next level. He has the size, the arm and experience in a pro style offense. The question is, how consistent can he be?

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ADRIAN PETERSON

Running Back
Oklahoma
6-0, 228
40 Time:


source: NFL Report.com
Heisman and All-American candidate, RB Adrian Peterson, broke his collarbone on a dive into the endzone during Oklahoma's victory over Iowa State. Peterson is expected to miss the rest of the regular season but hasn't ruled out returning for Oklahoma's Bowl game, should the team make a bowl appearance. According to Peterson, he still fully expects to enter the 2007 NFL Draft despite the injury, which should be fully healed by the Scouting Combine in February.

Prep star from Texas. The consensus Player of the Year in high school football (Texas) when he rushed for 2,960 yards on 252 attempts, an average of 11.7 yards per carry, and 32 TDs as a Senior. Turned down offers from Texas, USC, Miami and UCLA to name a few and signed with Oklahoma in 2003. Became Oklahoma's feature back during his Freshman campaign in 2004 and set the college football world ablaze, finishing second in Heisman voting and becoming the first Oklahoma Freshman in the program's history to earn consensus All-American honors after he led the nation in rushing attempts (339) and finished third nationally with 1,925 yards rushing, which broke the OU school record for rushing yards in a single season as well as the NCAA freshman record set in 1996 by Wisconsin's Ron Dayne (1,863). Tied the NCAA freshman record for reaching 1,000 yards in the fewest games (seven) with Emmitt Smith (Florida, 1987) and Marshall Faulk (San Diego State, 1991) - some elite company. Named first-team All-Big 12 as a Sophomore in 2005 after leading the team and Conference in rushing (among RBs) with 1,108 yards and 14 TDs despite missing four games with a severely sprained ankle.

A dynamic rusher with ideal size, speed and explosion. Isn't afraid to take a hit or run through the middle. Doesn't mind contact and does an excellent job bouncing off defenders and creating for himself. A tough and determined rusher with exceptional instincts and awareness. Will bounce to the outside when need be and is dangerous and elusive in the open field. Demonstrates tremendous agility. Has the size to be a willing and capable blocker. Battle-tested and fully capable of taking on a full-time workload. Only downside is his lack of experience and polish as a receiver. Has decent hands out of the backfield but could get better. Wasn't called upon much as a receiver at Oklahoma and needs to develop better receiving skills.

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Marshawn Lynch

Vitals:
Position: RUNNING BACK
School: California
Year: Junior
Height: 5'11
Weight: 217
Forty: n/a

NFL COMPARISON
LaDainian Tomlinson, Chargers
Both are generally north-south runners who have excellent lateral agility which allows them to make quick moves and get going upfield again. Both run extremely hard and have low centers of gravity which make them hard to take down on first contact. I'll give Tomlinson the edge as a receiver though.


SCOUTING REPORT

POWER: Lynch is a solidly built back and while he isn't built like say Jerome Bettis, he runs much bigger than his size. He is very powerful and runs low to the ground. He keeps his legs driving and runs like he refuses to be brought down. He has a strong lower body and is a back who cannot be arm tackled.

SPEED/BURST: Lynch isn't a true burner, but he definitely has enough speed to break long runs. He also has a quick upfield burst when he sees daylight and he always hits the creases hard. He also has shown the acceleration to get around the corner and beat defenders to the outside.

ELUSIVENESS: His lateral movement is outstanding. He is very agile and often leaves defenders flat footed. He isn't a back who will waste too much time dancing though, it's a quick move to get around a defender and then he gets himself headed upfield again. Lynch stops and starts well and he also can make cuts while running full speed.

VISION: Lynch has proven that he can find daylight. He's a good cutback runner and does a good job of seeing holes and getting through them quickly. He does a good job of seeing contain on outside runs and beating it with a quick move or burst of speed.

RECEIVING/BLOCKING: Lynch has shown some ability as a receiver and a pass protector, although he hasn't had to do a ton of either. So while he has potential in these areas, he must do them on a more consistent basis before they will be considered one of his strengths.

OVERALL PROJECTION
Lynch is an NFL type back. He is built for the NFL game and he has the skill set to succeed at the next level. What I love most are his toughness and determination. He runs hard every carry and that combined with his physical talent will have him going high in the draft.

CURRENT PROJECTION: High-mid 1st Round

[hawaiianboy]

Calvin Johnson

Vitals:
Position: WIDE RECEIVER
School: Georgia Tech
Year: Junior
Height: 6'4
Weight: 225
Forty: n/a


NFL COMPARISON
Terrell Owens, Cowboys

Big, physical and a mismatch for most corners, that's what both Johnson and Owens are. Both have the rare combination of size and athleticism as well as super hands that every team looks for in a wideout.


SCOUTING REPORT

SIZE/STRENGTH: Johnson is a big, physically imposing target. He uses his size well to shield defenders away from the ball. He also uses it to out jump defenders on deep passes and jump balls. He is also very strong and that helps him get off of press coverage and as a downfield blocker.

BODY CONTROL: Johnson shows great ability to turn and twist his body in the air to make tough grabs. He adjusts well to get underneath passes as well and has shown the ability to make tough grabs from many different angles and in traffic because he positions himself so well. He also has shown great ability along the sidelines and in the back of the end zone. He is an excellent fade target.

HANDS: Johnson has excellent hands. He rarely drops a pass and more often than not, will make the spectacular grab. He has long arms and will extend them to make grabs. On some shorter routes, he will allow the ball into his body, but for the most part this is not a problem.

SPEED/BURST: Deep balls are not necessarily his strong suit. While his size makes him a tough matchup downfield, he doesnt have super top end speed and a real burst to sparate himself deep.

ROUTE RUNNING: While he is smooth and big, Johnson could sharpen his route running a little. He doesn't always explode from his breaks or make super sharp cuts. He relies on his physical attributes to get into position to catch the ball rather than creating separation with clean routes. This can be improved.

OVERALL PROJECTION
Johnson is a super athlete who can make the spectacular plays as well as the routine ones. He is a matchup nightmare and should prove to be the same in the NFL. He has the potential to be dominant and should be one of the first players off the board if he declares.

CURRENT PROJECTION: high 1st Round


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Michael Bush

Louisville,
6-2, 250, 4.60, SR…


Bush passed up the chance to be a mid-round pick at the 2006 draft in order to enhance his status with a strong senior campaign with the Cardinals, but it didn’t work out as he missed virtually the entire year after breaking his leg in Louisville’s season-opener. When healthy though was one of the nation’s most productive backs featuring a rare combination of size, speed and athleticism. Ran for over 1,100 yards in 2005 when he averaged 5.6 yards per attempt and scored 23 TDs. Big back at 6-2, 250, although he is still more of a finesse runner who can make people miss; also is a patient runner with good instincts who uses his blockers well; has the size to move the pile and is a good shortage runner, but is not a true between-the-tackles grinder as he tends to pick his way through the line rather than just slamming it inside; is also an effective cutback runner working the perimeter.

Excellent athlete who was a star high school QB who can throw the halfback option. Also a very good receiver with 49 career receptions. Not a technically sound blocker but will get in the way of pass rushers. Big question for Bush is whether he can stay healthy; tends to run a little high and takes a lot of hits; indeed, in addition to this year’s injury, Bush also missed the final two games of the 2005 campaign with a sprained foot and sat out spring practice the previous year with a broken foot. Also not known as a workout warrior; is probably 15-20 pounds overweight and has a soft body.

Summary: Bush has the skill set to be an every-down back in the pros. However, he needs to take conditioning more seriously plus he’ll have to work to keep his pads down at the next level; health status will play a major impact on Bush’s ultimate draft grade, but if he checks out at pre-draft workouts will get some long looks by NFL teams in the late opening round at the 2007. (Note could technically apply for another year of eligibility but isn’t expected to do so.)

[CrossBones]

You want any of these scrubs?

[hawaiianboy]

College Card stars waiver on draft…


Injured Louisville RB Michael Bush went through senior day ceremonies with his teammates yesterday prior to the Cardinals’ season-finale against UConn, but reportedly still has not decided whether seek a medical redshirt and try to return to school for another season next fall or enter this year’s NFL draft. Bush had been projected as a potential first-round pick for the 2007 draft but missed all but a few plays this fall when he suffered a broken leg in Louisville’s season opener. The big issue for Bush could be whether he will be healthy enough to participate in this February’s NFL Scouting Combine, however, Bush is still walking with a limp and reportedly won’t be fully recovered until late February or early March.

Meanwhile, TV commentators for yesterday’s Louisville win over Cincinnati reported that Cardinals’ junior QB Brian Brohm was saying in pre-game interviews that he was “leaning’ toward returning for his season next fall.

[Madturk]

Only knock I have on Johnson I noticed from the Tech-Wake Forest game was that he doesn't have that top end speed. Then again neither does Anquan. I just don't want to blow that high a pick on a wideout. Maybe if we trade down we can walk away with one of the running backs and Dwayne Jarret.

Brohm would be wise to stay in for one more season IMO.

[RaiderIVlife]

Gotta admit, Brady Quinn does sound intriquing. I mean Andrew Walter & Aaron Brooks after the Kerry Collins run. Bwahahahahaha. I can easily see where those that want Quinn are coming from.

As for the RB's, Adrian Petersen is about the same size as Marcus Allen, I think. Sounds like the real deal, BUUT, I buy into the rumblings that he runs to upright and with our luck, he'd be injured most of his career.

Marshawn Lynch might be the "guy" however. Agile, quick cutting and doesn't dance much. All things that LaMont Jordan isn't. That would be a good fit with our offensive line.

[RaiderIVlife]

Only knock I have on Johnson I noticed from the Tech-Wake Forest game was that he doesn't have that top end speed. Then again neither does Anquan. I just don't want to blow that high a pick on a wideout. Maybe if we trade down we can walk away with one of the running backs and Dwayne Jarret.

Brohm would be wise to stay in for one more season IMO.

Dude, how about trading down a few slots, drafting Lynch and then Garrett !!!! Spend our FA cash on O-lineman, hopefully Walter comes to camp ready....

....A man can dream can't he?

[Ghost To The Post]

Creativity and initiative are the hallmarks of the Raiders 2007 draft.

1st Round - Calvin Johnson LT Georgia Tech

Everyone has been whining about drafting an O-Line player. Well see, we don't exactly. Calvin Johson...big, physically imposing...also very strong ...He has long arms and will extend them(this apparently is important)...Has good feet but not top-end speed. Great attributes for a left tackle. So he gains 80 to 85lbs on some sort of weight gain regimen. Voila pro-bowl tackle for the next 10 years.

P.S. This guy won't be dropping those tackle eligible touchdown passes!!!

2nd Round - Jeff Samardzija TE Notre Dame

This kid has good hands and won't be putting the pigskin on the deck like our current TE's do. Send him to the buffet table with Johnson, where they can develop a rapport that is vital between a TE and an LT on blitz pick-ups. If he can pack on 45-55lbs. lookout!! Pro-bowl TE for the next 10 years.

3rd Round - Ryne Robinson QB Miami (Ohio)

This youngster is one of the most elusive punt returners in the MAC. Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the next Michael Vick, without the MVick price tag. I know what your saying, "Ghost, WTF he is not a quarterback!!". Well my answer is twofold. Firstly, neither is Michael Vick and secondly look at all the good QB's that have come out of the MAC recently, Toothlessbugger, Leftwich and Pennington. I know the kid has had no "formal" training at QB, but the MAC produces good quarterbacks.

4th Round - Xavier Carter, LSU WR

Okay he has never started for LSU and has less than 10 career receptions, but he is NCAA 100m CHAMPION. You guys cannot deny me my "Stopwatch Pick of the Day".

We will have increased team speed to lethal levels. Man, I am stoked for the upcoming season.

[CrossBones]

GTP...see me later. I have a VIP Pass to get you into the Raiders War Room on draft day. You might be onto something and I think the Old Man might go for it.

[Limee]

I still don't see us drafting 1st so I think Quinn will be gone. I would be all for trading down and adding Lynch and a WR/OL and going from there.

I still think we should all start getting fitted for those Calvin Johnson jerseys.

[hawaiianboy]

Joe Thomas

Offensive Tackle | Senior | Wisconsin
Height: 6-8 | Weight: 313 | 40-Time: 5.00

Strengths:
An excellent athlete for the position...Has outstanding feet...Great size with long arms...Very mobile and agile...Displays great balance and gets set quickly...Able to pull, slide and block in space...Still has the frame to bulk up and add some more weight...Technically sound, instinctive and very smart with top intangibles...Rare prospect who can legitimately play the crucial left tackle position at the pro level.

Weaknesses:
Is only one year removed from a major knee injury...Is not always as aggressive as you'd prefer and could show more of a killer instinct...Needs to get stronger, especially in the lower-body, and develop physically...Struggles a bit with power and the bull rush...Tends to play with a narrow base at times...Is still learning the position to a degree after playing tight end and defensive end early in his career.

Notes:
Was also an excellent shot-putter for the Badger track and field team...Almost came out last year as a junior after he was told that he'd be a Top 10-15 overall pick by the NFL's underclassmen advisory panel but then he tore the ACL in his right knee while playing defensive end in the Badgers bowl game...Is not as good of a pass blocker as D'Brickashaw Ferguson was last year (very few are) but he might be a better all-around player...Will be one of the elite prospects available.

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Gaines Adams


Defensive End | Senior | Clemson
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 260 | 40-Time: 4.75

Official Bio

Strengths:
An outstanding athlete...Extremely quick and agile with very good speed...Has a tremendous first step and a great burst to close...Has very long arms and uses his hands well...Has the frame to get bigger and develop physically...Looks fluid when dropping into coverage...A terror in opponents backfields and just seems to have a knack for getting to the quarterback...Productive and disruptive...Versatile and also has the ability to play outside linebacker for a 3-4 team at the pro level.

Weaknesses:
Does not have the ideal bulk you look for and needs to add some weight...Does not play the run nearly as well as he does the pass...Needs to get stronger...Can play with better pad level and leverage...Struggles when blockers are able to lock on...Might be a bit of a DE / OLB 'tweener...Becomes somewhat one-dimensional at times...Will get overly aggressive and run himself out of plays...Intelligence?

Notes:
Played eight-man football in high school and then spent a year at Fork Union Prep before coming to Clemson and redshirting in 2002...Seriously considered coming out after his junior season but was given a very conservative grade by the NFL's underclassmen advisory panel and chose to go back to school...Has been as good as any defensive end in the nation the past two years...Top natural pass rusher.

[Jack's sore libido]

I hate that Raider fans are the only ones in this conversation right now.

My ideal draft right now:

1) Calvin Johnson, WR, Ga Tech
Hey, Jerry Porter is a goner, and Moss is around at MOST one more year. We simply can't trot Alvis Whitted out there as a starter another year, I don't care how fast he is.

2) Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State
So what if he's only 6 feet tall and has a weird throwing motion? Last I checked, Drew Brees was only 6 feet tall and he's the NFL's leading passer. Smith is Vick-lite running, only with a thrower's mentality. This cat is perfect for Oakland's offense, in my opinion.

3) Greg Olsen, TE, Miami
I don't know much about him as a blocker, but the guy's a natural receiver who just finds ways to get open. Very reminiscent of Brent Jones.

4) Brian Leonard, FB, Rutgers
Just one of those good, smart, hard-nosed football players who can do anything you ask of him. Which is probably why some other team like Pittsburgh or Tampa Bay will draft him.

[CrossBones]

I hate that Raider fans are the only ones in this conversation right now.You're free to recruit 'ya know. Anybody you think would add to the discussion would be OK with us. Who you have in mind? Wolverine? Jacket, Ken? Big58?

[Langlier]

You're free to recruit 'ya know. Anybody you think would add to the discussion would be OK with us. Who you have in mind? Wolverine? Jacket, Ken? Big58?

big would be ok... wolve and jacket dont exactly hit me as much more then fanboys.

[Jack's sore libido]

You're free to recruit 'ya know. Anybody you think would add to the discussion would be OK with us. Who you have in mind? Wolverine? Jacket, Ken? Big58?

What I meant was, other teams in the division don't seem too interested in talking draft right now, because they're in the thick of the playoff hunt.

But then, I didn't realize this was just the Raider war room. Thought it was for all 4 teams.

[CrossBones]

...because they're in the thick of the playoff hunt.:o ..........

[hawaiianboy]

Wolverine? Jacket, Ken? Big58?

Two of these are the same person....

See Papi! I'm not the only one confused by having to time travel through sub forums...


I'll play... If I'm drafting today, assuming we get a 3rd as comp for Woodson and a 5th for getting raped for Gabes:

RD1: Adrian Peterson (RB) Oklahoma
RD2: Zach Miller (TE) Arizona St.
RD3: Sampson Satele (C) Hawaii
RD3: Mike Otto (OT) Purdue
RD4: Conrad Bolston (NT) Maryland
RD5: Sabbi Piscitelli (SS) Oregon St.
RD5: Ryan Moore (WR) Miami
RD6: Leron McLain (FB) Bama

[CrossBones]

See Papi! I'm not the only one confused by having to time travel through sub forums...That better?

[007]

Two of these are the same person....

See Papi! I'm not the only one confused by having to time travel through sub forums...


I'll play... If I'm drafting today, assuming we get a 3rd as comp for Woodson and a 5th for getting raped for Gabes:

RD1: Adrian Peterson (RB) Oklahoma
RD2: Zach Miller (TE) Arizona St.
RD3: Sampson Satele (C) Hawaii
RD3: Mike Otto (OT) Purdue
RD4: Conrad Bolston (NT) Maryland
RD5: Sabbi Piscitelli (SS) Oregon St.
RD5: Ryan Moore (WR) Miami
RD6: Leron McLain (FB) Bama

Fuckin gorgeous right there.

I havent seen much of Otto, so I would replace him with a bruiser such as Kareem Brown at DT, or even a versatile guy like Baraka Atkins in round three.

I really like Dallas Sartz as a late round sleeper too.

[Freakshow]

I like this game...

Right now, my ideal draft scenario would look a little something like this:

1st Round - (RB) Adrian Peterson (Oklahoma)
2nd Round - (WR) Jeff Samardzija (Notre Dame)
3rd Round - (T) Levi Brown (Penn St.)
3rd Round - (C) Kyle Young (Fresno St.)
4th Round - (TE) Johnny Harline (BYU)
5th Round - (T) Mike Otto (Purdue)
5th Round - (FB) Cory Anderson (Tennessee)
6th Round - (T/G) Jake Kuresa (BYU)

Fills the obvious skill position needs early with some beef later. I could see several of these guys getting some snaps as rookies. Mix in 2 or 3 decent free-agents and you might be looking at respectability next season.

[Madturk]

Baraka went to HS with my oldest daughter. I'd be all over your first three picks HB. I think I'd use one of the thirds or the fourth on Brian Leonard.

Freak I like Samardzija but he's already signed a minor leauge baseball contract.

[CrossBones]

(Bones takes Art Shell type 'Lil Al notes.) :D

[Madturk]

(Bones takes Art Shell type 'Lil Al notes.) :D

Don't foget the glazed look in the eyes and bovine perspiration on your upper lip area.

[Jack's sore libido]

Is Mike Otto Jim's boy?

[R4Life]

If I can jump in:
OL is our biggest concern - until we get this issue settled, all else is moot. It will require some coaching of the OL, but I like the draft class of 2006 and I think we can build around them.
Slaughter at LT (it's a gamble , but he's got the make-up of a LT and has done better than Gallery this year)
Start McQ at left guard,
Bring in Larry Izzo at center via FA.
Booth at RG
Gallery at RT (he gets one more year to show promise. He doesn't have the footwork or speed to be a LT. I hate the idea that the Raiders' instability might lead us to abandon a guy who could be good (if not good plus) if he had some consistency in coaching a scheme).
Keep Hulsey & Badger as insurance
Cut Sims, Walker, Grove.
Draft M. Lynch in round 1 after trading for 1 & a 2 from the Bucs who want Brady Quinn)
RD2 -Jeff Samardzija WR, Notre Dame
RD2 Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State
RD3: Clark Harris, TE, Rutgers
RD3: Sampson Satele (C) Hawaii (Izzo is good for two years, and I'll defer to HB here)

I don't know enough college players to get beyond this without just copying someone else. But I think we could do well with an unchanged defense and this offense in 2007 and beyond.

[007]

I like this game...

Right now, my ideal draft scenario would look a little something like this:

1st Round - (RB) Adrian Peterson (Oklahoma)
2nd Round - (WR) Jeff Samardzija (Notre Dame)
3rd Round - (T) Levi Brown (Penn St.)
3rd Round - (C) Kyle Young (Fresno St.)
4th Round - (TE) Johnny Harline (BYU)
5th Round - (T) Mike Otto (Purdue)
5th Round - (FB) Cory Anderson (Tennessee)
6th Round - (T/G) Jake Kuresa (BYU)

Fills the obvious skill position needs early with some beef later. I could see several of these guys getting some snaps as rookies. Mix in 2 or 3 decent free-agents and you might be looking at respectability next season.

My ideal draft scenario:

RD1) CJ
RD2) AP
RD3) Brady Quinn

Seriously man, Kyle Young, Levi Brown and Samardzija are all borderline first rounders, not 3rd rounders.

I could see Samardzija 'possibly' slippiing because of baseball, but Levi Brown was talked about as a top fifteen pick, and Kyle Young is the best center in the NCAA, IMO...Not a 3rd rounder.

Mike Otto in round five?

A guy can dream, I guess.;)

[Raiders_Rock]

My ideal draft scenario:

RD1) CJ
RD2) AP
RD3) Brady Quinn

there's no way in hell Quinn slips to round 3

[Langlier]

there's no way in hell Quinn slips to round 3

Like theres a chance AP hits round 2...

its a dream scenario :)

[007]

there's no way in hell Quinn slips to round 3

It was sarcasm brother.

I was commenting on the poster above me having Kyle Young, Mike Otto and Levi Brown about two rounds too late.

Now that I'm replying, you were probably being sarcastic with me...:o

[CrossBones]

It was sarcasm brother.

I was commenting on the poster above me having Kyle Young, Mike Otto and Levi Brown about two rounds too late.

Now that I'm replying, you were probably being sarcastic with me...:oNah, he took one look at the avatar and thought you were a goof ball! Bwahahahaha. :D

[hawaiianboy]

Sports Illustrated's All American teams... Seems like the Morman vote pulled an inordinate amount of guys from the state of Utah....


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/ncaa/12/07/all.americans/index.html

[hawaiianboy]

Marshawn Lynch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5kA59Xnhew)

Adrian Peterson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwSVBX-rirM)


Looking for Michael Bush...

[CrossBones]

How about this?

We take Quinn this year and since he'll be terrible we'll be picking #1 again next year and we get McFadden.

We're ready to rock 'n roll in 2008! :eek:

:Bones takes a bow:

[CrossBones]

Marshawn Lynch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5kA59Xnhew)

Adrian Peterson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwSVBX-rirM)


Looking for Michael Bush...I've seen those before somewhere.

I like Lynch better. But maybe that's just me.

[007]

I've seen those before somewhere.

I like Lynch better. But maybe that's just me.

It's not just you.

Personally, I think the gap Peterson had on Lynch going into the season has gotten smaller, and might close after the combine and workouts.

Lynch is a damn good prospect, and I wouldt be suprised to see a Cadillac/Ronnie Brown style draft this year, with both going top five.

[Limee]

Any idea where Glenn Dorsey might end up going in the draft?

[hawaiianboy]

He'll test well if he declares... wouldn't be surprising to see him rise as high as Bunkley did last year IMO...

Top RB gets bowl clearance… Oklahoma RB Adrian Peterson, a potential top 5 pick at the 2007 draft, returned to practice Friday and has been cleared to play in next month’s Fiesta Bowl. The 220-pound Peterson has been out since breaking his collarbone in mid-October. The Sooners will face upstart Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl on January 1st.

Buzz has two juniors going pro… Its probably not a huge surprise, but reports out of their respective schools are that California junior RB Marshawn Lynch and Pittsburgh junior CB Darrelle Revis are both headed to the 2007 draft. Both are considered top 15 prospects for this year’s draft


Not to knock Lynch, who I think will be a great player in his own right, but it seems like it's being forgotten just how good Peterson is... The guy is a freak...

[RaiderIVlife]

I sometimes worry about RB's that have had a ton of carries in college - and two significant injuries. I buy into some the concern(s) that he runs too upright and is thus more injury prone.

Then again, I'd take 6-7 great years out of any RB, say like Eddie George, than an eternity of mediocrity at the position.

[hawaiianboy]

Eddie George was just a machine for awhile there... Destroyed us for sure...

Peterson doesn't seem to take the kind of direct shots Larry Johnson or Steven Jackson do with their upright styles... I think AP is more comparable to another upright runner in Shaun Alexander as far as ellusiveness goes... In fact, the current injury concerns and running style of Peterson mirror that of Alexander coming out of Bama...

I don't think the injury flag should be that big a deal with AP... A high ankle sprain caused by stepping on an O-lineman's foot and a collarbone break occuring while landing in a TD leap... Seems more freak injurish to me than anything else...

JMO

Here's a Peterson-McFadden mix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qkx3d_NrVU) (skip it if you've already seen it Grampa GrumpBones)

[Limee]

He'll test well if he declares... wouldn't be surprising to see him rise as high as Bunkley did last year IMO...
There goes the plan of adding him in the second...
I sometimes worry about RB's that have had a ton of carries in college - and two significant injuries. I buy into some the concern(s) that he runs too upright and is thus more injury prone.

Then again, I'd take 6-7 great years out of any RB, say like Eddie George, than an eternity of mediocrity at the position.
I agree, we have to swing for the fence this time, no good assuming the worst is going to happen.

[hawaiianboy]

Troy Smith

Quarterback | Senior | Ohio St.
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 215 | 40-Time: 4.60



Strengths:
Very athletic with great speed for the position...Arm is more than adequate and he throws a nice ball...Moves well, can scramble, throw on the run and hurt teams with his feet...An accurate passer who minimizes his mistakes and doesn't throw a lot of interceptions...Became a leader as he got older and is well respected by his teammates...Has a solid build and is tough to tackle...A gamer who steps up in the biggest situations...Really developed as a passer in '06 and is still improving.

Weaknesses:
Does not have the ideal height you look for and as a result he will have trouble finding throwing lanes and get too many passes batted down at the line...Does not always see the entire field...Will get sloppy with his mechanics and technique at times...Still somewhat raw after only starting a little more than two years...Has some character concerns from early in his career that will have to be checked out.

Notes:
Heisman Trophy winner...An older brother, Rod, played guard at Ohio State in the early 1990s, and another brother, Andre, played at Bowling Green...Played for the famed Glenville (Ohio) program in high school where he was coached by Ted Ginn, Sr...Overcame a rough upbringing...Was found guilty of misdemeanor disorderly conduct which led to him not starting the critical Texas game (a loss) in 2005 and was also suspended for the Buckeyes Bowl game in 2004 for taking money from a booster...If he were a little taller Smith would probably be a Top 10 pick but his lack of height is going to be a concern and will likely push him down draft boards.

[massraider]

You KFFL'ers might remember this from last April, but here's my list of draft links, cut-and-pasted:

The best NFL draft blog
http://nfldraftreview.blogspot.com/

NFL.com Draft Central
http://www.nfl.com/draft
Draft information on the NFL’s official websites. The Combine updates and Pro Day tracking by Gil Brandt are one of the best annual features. Lots of analysis and profiles.

Sports Illustrated Draft Central
http://quicktime.cnnsi.com/football/...ls/draft/2006/
Not up yet. I usually find SI has some of the best draft grades when you look back at past drafts.
Don Banks Mock #1: http://quicktime.cnnsi.com/2006/writ...t.1/index.html
Don Banks Mock #2: http://quicktime.cnnsi.com/2006/writ...rt1/index.html
Stewart Mandel’s Top 20: http://quicktime.cnnsi.com/multimedi...t/index.1.html

NFL Draft Countdown
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com
For one-stop shopping of NFL draft information, Scott Wright has one of the best independent free draft website. Nice layout, easy navigation, solid rankings, decent profiles, and Scott produces one of the better independent mocks every year. Also has a nice draft blog: http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/blog/wrightstuff.html

FFToday.com
Matt Waldman’s profiles:
http://www.fftoday.com/articles/wald...g_profiles.htm
My RB series:
06 RB class pre-Combine:
http://www.fftoday.com/articles/idpt...aft_rbs_v5.htm
06 RB Class end of regular season: http://www.fftoday.com/articles/idpt...aft_rbs_v4.htm
06 RB Class late season update: http://www.fftoday.com/articles/idpt...aft_rbs_v3.htm
06 RB Class early season update: http://www.fftoday.com/articles/idpt...aft_rbs_v2.htm
06 RB Class spring preview: http://www.fftoday.com/articles/idpt...aft_rbs_v1.htm

Collegefootballnews.com
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/default.htm
Not an NFL draft site, but the best college football website on the net.
Early entry discussion: http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2...rlyEntries.htm
Pete Fiutak Mock Draft #1: http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2.../MockDraft.htm
Pete Fiutak Mock Draft #2: http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2.../MockDraft.htm

Great Blue North Draft Report
http://www.gbnreport.com/
Best feature of Canuck Colin Lindsey’s site is the running news updates on the main page. Other nice features are the frequently updated Declared Underclassmen list: http://www.gbnreport.com/juniors.htm and his updates from Next Level Scouting.

Next Level Scouting
http://www.nextlevelscouting.com/index.htm
Home of site mentioned above. John Murphy writes in a stream-of-consciousness method at times, but has a lot of new or interesting tidbits.

On The Clock
http://www.otcdraft.com/
Nice running draft news stories on main page and decent profiles by Greg Benjamin.

Draftdaddy.com
http://www.draftdaddy.com/
First turned on to this site for their undrafted free agent coverage, but they have all kinds of draft content. By far the best feature is their draft blog: http://www.draftdaddy.com/blog/blog.cfm

Football’s Future
http://footballsfuture.com/
One of the more improved sites the last couple of years. Famous for their extensive listing of mock drafts from across the net: http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/mock.html
They also have comprehensive and original profiles and team needs analysis.

NFL Draft Showcase
http://www.draftshowcase.com/
Allen Trieu doesn’t spend as much time on compiling draft links anymore, but he has his own site highlighted by a limited, but growing, collection of in-depth profiles and some video highlights of prospects.

Fantasy Football Toolbox Draft Index
http://fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/index.cfm
A lot of comprehensive profiles, including of future prospects (ineligible underclassmen). List of mock drafts from around the net: http://fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2006_mockdrafts.cfm

Draft Board Insider
http://www.draftboardinsider.com/
Decent layout and navigation. Some pretty in-depth and original profiles and articles.

Rob’s Scouting
http://www.robscouting.com/
I’m never a big fan of his rankings and the site is a little rough, but Rob McCartney has been around for a while, does his own scouting, and writes his own in-depth profiles. He made them hard to find this year. Go to ‘Teams’ to see the list of teams he scouted and scroll down to find links to the players he has profiles for.

Draftdatabase.com
http://www.draftdatabase.com/
Replaces draftbook.com, and openly admits it, an independent site that closed down a few years ago. Like draftbook.com, they compile prospect profiles and reviews from a handful of other sources.

College Sports TV (CSTV)
Division I-A: http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/...tbl-body.html#
Division I-AA, II, III, and NAIA: http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/...more-body.html
Website of college network with tons of articles on college teams and players, the same ones you’d find in the news section of many college team’s football websites.

Pro Sports Daily NFL Draft News
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/nfl/nfldraft.html
Daily links to draft-related stories from newspapers across the country.

Google News on NFL Draft: http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn&q=nfl%20draft

Profootballtalk.com Rumor Mill
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
The infamous rumor mill has been known to break stories before the mainstream media. Only draft info would be stories of prospects as far as they relate to NFL rumor and speculation.

Pro Football Weekly
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...ft/default.htm
Nolan Nawrocki is no Joel Buschbaum. Content remains embarrassing since Joel’s passing. 2006 draft stuff isn’t even up yet in site linked above, but there was draft talk in the weekly college notes during the season: http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...es/default.htm

Houstonprofootball.com NFL Draft War Room
http://www.houstonprofootball.com/draft/
Obviously the slant of the content is related to the Texans, but the best draft information on a team’s fan website. The profiles are in-depth, but they only select five at a position, and make the selections early, so a few are no longer (or sometimes never were) top prospects by the time football season is over. Newspaper-quality articles are the other main content.

NFLFans.com (formerly The Draft Exchange)
http://www.nflfans.com/x/
Quirky site whose brutal layout is rough on the eyes. Scroll down and look on the left for prospect rankings and profiles. Forums seem to find some unique and hard-to-find information, especially during the Combine and workouts.

About.com NFL Draft home
http://football.about.com/od/nfldraft/

Draftseason.com
http://www.draftseason.com/
Nice layout, easy navigation. Brief bios on prospects and not much in-depth or unique content, other than some fluff interviews.

theHogs.net Draft Section
http://www.thehogs.net/Draft/index.php
Washington fan site isn’t Redskin-centric with their draft information. Big database of prospects with profiles, albeit brief ones.

hR mock draft links
http://www.hailredskins.com/MockDraft.htm
Nice compilation of mocks from around the net by Hail Redskins.

Football.com Draft Home
http://www.football.com/cgi-bin/post...t=draft1.shtml
Draft notes and rankings is about it. Loss of D.J. Boyer’s content is irrelevant; I thought their rankings actually look a little better without him.

NFL Draft Forecast
http://www.nfldraftforecast.com/
Decent layout and navigation, but some pretty whack rankings and outdated profiles. A collection of original articles and interviews, but not much substance.

Sportsnutz.com Draft Coverage
http://sportznutz.com/nfl/draft/
Rankings and the few profiles they provide (they promise more to come) are mediocre, but the Team Needs section was actually decent. Horrible layout and navigation (scroll down and look on the left to find the links to content).

D2football.com 2006 Pro Hopefuls
http://www.d2football.com/index.php?...ome.proHopeful
One of the top websites covering NCAA Division II football reviews some dark horses.

RESOURCES

Historical NFL draft information
http://www.drafthistory.com/
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history

NCAA Football statistics (all divisions)
http://www.ncaa.org/stats/football/footballMenu.html

2006 Traded draft picks
http://www.draftinsiders.com/8.html

2006 Free agents
http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freeagents/

Official Site of NFL Combine
http://www.nflcombine.net/

The Huddle Report Mock Draft scores (still has 2005 rankings, obviously)
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/top100/index.shtml

Average measurables of first round picks the last five years
http://www.ourlads.com/DraftAverages.html

[Limee]

Great links mass.

[Ghost To The Post]

Happy, Happy Ghost Scenario Post Draft:

Free Agents:

Eric Steinbach or Mike Gandy or Leonard Davis - Any one of a few proven NFL quality linemen.

Re-Sign Terdell Sands

Trade:

Jerry Porter to Atlanta for their 2nd Round Pick (#48). Talented and 3-year deal at $1mil / year.

Randy Moss to Pittsburgh for their 2nd Round (#45) and 3rd Round (#77) Picks.

Draft:

Oakland #2
Trade with Arizona to #3. They lock up Joe Thomas. Raiders get Arizona's 2nd round pick.

1-3...Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma

2-34...Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State
2-35...Justin Harrell, DT, Tennessee
2-45...Brian Leonard, RB/FB, Rutgers
2-48...Samson Satele, OC, Hawaii

3-66...Johnnie Lee Higgins, WR, UTEP
3-77...Matt Spaeth, TE, Minnesota


Sad Ghost, Broken TV, Angry Wife Scenario:

Free Agents:

Kawicka Mitchell
David Boston

Trades:

None, release Jerry Porter and Doug Gabriel

Draft:

1-2 Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame

2-34 Robert Meacham, WR, Tennessee

3-66 Paul Williams, WR, Fresno State

[hawaiianboy]

http://media.putfile.com/AD-2005-highlights

Another All Day Peterson highlight... I'm telling you, the guy never takes a diretc hit...

[CrossBones]

http://media.putfile.com/AD-2005-highlights

Another All Day Peterson highlight... I'm telling you, the guy never takes a diretc hit...Yep...dude looks great.

So, who's gonna play QB? That person is not on our roster. Walter is a stiff. Brooks is Brooks and should be cut.

[hawaiianboy]

Yep...dude looks great.

So, who's gonna play QB? That person is not on our roster. Walter is a stiff. Brooks is Brooks and should be cut.


Using our past as a guide, it's unlikely it will be Brady Quinn... If Lombardi couldn't talk Al into the Heisman having, left handed thowing goldenboy form USC, I can't see us ever using a high pick on the position...

My guess is we'll be looking at a guy from the Chris Sims, Jake Plummer, Drew Bledsoe list...

[CrossBones]

You're right HBoy. And the tirade SoCal had in the other thread is right on too. We'd ruin some franchise QB prospect quicker than a Robert Gallery throw away doll.

If we had any brains at all we 'd trade down but I'm tired of talking about that pipe dream. I know Al is gonna take the WR with all the meansurables. Fuck. Just what we need a WR running around with nobody to get him the ball while the QB is running for his life. That is a terrible idea but probably what this mess of a franchise will do in the end. :o

[hawaiianboy]

Our probable second round pick: :p


Johnnie Lee Higgins
Wide Receiver | Senior | U.T.E.P.
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 180 | 40-Time: 4.35

Official Bio

Strengths:
Has outstanding speed...Very quick with a burst...Excellent athlete...Great leaper with good ball skills and body control...Big play threat...Elusive and runs well after the catch...Tough and plays bigger than he is...Has reliable hands and will snatch the ball out of the air...Very productive...He can also contribute as a return man.

Weaknesses:
Undersized and almost frail...Is not very strong or physical...Struggles to beat the jam...Does not run great routes...Probably won't ever be a true #1 target at the pro level...May be limited in terms of the roles he can play...Durability's a concern.

Notes:
Cousin of San Diego Charger cornerback Quentin Jammer...Should be a workout warrior...Has some physical limitations but a lot of his flaws are correctable and you simply can't teach speed...The NFL is really placing more of an emphasis on smaller, quicker receivers these days (i.e. Steve Smith) and this guy fits that mold.

[hawaiianboy]

Jeff Samardzija

Wide Receiver | Senior | Notre Dame
Height: 6-5 | Weight: 218 | 40-Time: 4.60

Official Bio

Strengths:
Is a tremendous natural athlete...Has great size and a tall, lanky frame with room for growth...Has excellent hands...Body control is outstanding...A leaper who goes up and gets the ball at its highest point...Is just a terror in the red zone and has a knack for scoring touchdowns...Very tough and will give up his body to make the catch...Surprisingly quick and runs very well after the catch...Great awareness and concentration...Adjusts well to poorly thrown passes...Runs good routes and just knows how to get open...Is a willing blocker who will do all the little things...Was very productive...Is competitive, smart and a hard worker with great intangibles.

Weaknesses:
Lacks elite timed speed...Will likely have a hard time separating from cornerbacks at the next level and won't be much of a deep threat...Will drop the occasional ball...Has never focused on just football and he needs to add some weight and get stronger...Is he truly dedicated to the game or will he pursue other options?

Notes:
A Larry Fitzgerald clone whose nickname is "Shark"...His last name is pronounced "suh-MARR-zhuh"...He's also a top pitching prospect for the Chicago Cubs and he reportedly has over $7 million guaranteed dollars waiting for him if he chooses a full-time baseball career...The word is that he wants to try and play both sports at their highest level but if he does indeed insist on going that route it will likely lead to him falling a lot further on Draft Day than his talent would otherwise warrant.

[Madturk]

If we had any brains at all we 'd trade down but I'm tired of talking about that pipe dream. I know Al is gonna take the WR with all the meansurables. Fuck. Just what we need a WR running around with nobody to get him the ball while the QB is running for his life. That is a terrible idea but probably what this mess of a franchise will do in the end. :o

I have this feeling that you may be right Bones, I'd almost hope we retained either Moss or Porter which might dissuade him from going after CJ. I mean CJ is a great player but unless we're going to run him 20-25 times a game, he's not going to impact this offense much.

[hawaiianboy]

From PFT:

The agents some guys have supposedly signed with:

We mentioned recently that Dave Dunn has inked UTEP quarterback Jordan Palmer and Fresno State center Kyle Young.

We're also hearing the following likely/potential/possible connections:

Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith and Neil Cornrich.

Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn and Don Yee.

Georgia Tech wide receiver Calvin Johnson and Todd France.

Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson and Ben Dogra.

USC receiver Dwayne Jarrett and Chuck Price.

Michigan running back Mike Hart and Lamont Smith/Peter Schaffer.

Michigan cornerback Leon Hall and Octagon or Lamont Smith/Peter Schaffer or Davd Dunn.

Cal running back Marshawn Lynch and Joel Segal.

Michigan defensive lineman Alan Branch and Lamont Smith/Peter Schaffer.

Florida State linebacker Buster Davis and Todd France.